AbuHumaid said: meh, and saying tunneling on yourself is AI, is baised, because you think it means shes scummy because it affects you*, when others dont... so yes clearly in your case its subjective... your opinion would probably have more weight, if the tunneling wasnt on you ¯_(ツ)_/¯@RE I literally provided an example after I said "general scummy behavior" also read my posts on her again. Whether tunneling is NAI or not is subjective, and to me it's AI depending on the situation. Edit: Added a word (indicated by *) |
_WispAug 23, 2018 8:41 PM
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_Wisp said: AbuHumaid said: meh, and saying tunneling on yourself is AI, is baised, because you think it means shes scummy because it affects you*, when others dont... so yes clearly in your case its subjective... your opinion would probably have more weight, if the tunneling wasnt on you ¯_(ツ)_/¯@RE I literally provided an example after I said "general scummy behavior" also read my posts on her again. Whether tunneling is NAI or not is subjective, and to me it's AI depending on the situation. Edit: Added a word (indicated by *) Implying shouldn't suspect whoever suspect you? XD |
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AbuHumaid said: Ugh, I'm seriously suffering from some memory issues. It's true she hasn't answered some questions. Like I asked her why she was taking your TPR claim into account with her read on you and not Lab's.@RE I literally provided an example after I said "general scummy behavior" also read my posts on her again. Whether tunneling is NAI or not is subjective, and to me it's AI depending on the situation. I still find you scummy cause of the vague reasoning you've been using but I don't know what to make of grave. She has asked a lot of questions and I can't tell how useful they'd be. I feel like I'm talking to the same people over and over and forgetting half the game grave_robber said: Why? Sorry if I missed the explanation.And I don't have any town reads so far if anyone is interested. I do think between Logic and abu there is at least 1 scum :) Did you have any townreads from before? |
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AbuHumaid said: Yes. I townread Wisp for sharing a similar response to Dias as me. I also had Scarlet as lean town while I was rereading the thread. yurkin also town for her interactions with Scarlet, sussing her and such was consistent with what I've seen from her before and it felt like a genuine read (I sometimes share the same thoughts of Scarlet being scum, but it's attributed to playstyle more than anything).@RE any reads other than me and Albert? I've never seen you town-reading anyone on this game. Sleipnirr might be a stronger town read but I am really having trouble remembering things that are going on. I have already stated these townreads before? It's really bugging me that you're missing these things. |
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yurkin said: no, if you suspect someone just because they suspect you, thats the literally definition of omgus, and you are scum, if you are suspecting someone but never place your vote, and proceed to place it after they vote you, then you are scum... its as simple as that_Wisp said: meh, and saying tunneling on yourself is AI, is baised, because you think it means shes scummy because it affects you*, when others dont... so yes clearly in your case its subjective... your opinion would probably have more weight, if the tunneling wasnt on you ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Edit: Added a word (indicated by *) Implying shouldn't suspect whoever suspect you? XD |
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| Pretty sure not only scum omgus, but ok. |
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| imo, and possibly how a lot of people see it, is the fact that town will always take the initiative... in most cases Contradictions to this would be, scum claiming a role, and then town ccing them, in this case, if its a hard cc, the ccer is usually 90% town, unless we are in lylo, then its any mans game, and more analysis would be required same goes with hammering, and starting trains, I would say about 80% of the time both are town, but this also depends on the confidence/personality of the player, some scum will do this... @RE also you can stop telling people how town I am for mindmelding with you, its starting to sound pockety and I dont like it... |
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yurkin said: sure ive been guilty of it, and I shouldve probably been lynched for it in all those cases...Pretty sure not only scum omgus, but ok. doesnt matter if they flip scum or not, its behavior that is correct enough to warrant the lynch |
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_Wisp said: yurkin said: sure ive been guilty of it, and I shouldve probably been lynched for it in all those cases...Pretty sure not only scum omgus, but ok. doesnt matter if they flip scum or not, its behavior that is correct enough to warrant the lynch Lynch all omgus-ers? XD haha wisp Sometimes you catch scums by the way they vote you. |
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yurkin said: give or take, sure, and ya "by the way they vote you or the reasons", not because they did vote you... which is exactly my point_Wisp said: sure ive been guilty of it, and I shouldve probably been lynched for it in all those cases... doesnt matter if they flip scum or not, its behavior that is correct enough to warrant the lynch Lynch all omgus-ers? XD haha wisp Sometimes you catch scums by the way they vote you. |
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_Wisp said: I wouldn't have to if Abu had read the thread :/@RE also you can stop telling people how town I am for mindmelding with you, its starting to sound pockety and I dont like it... omgus being one of them :D |
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_Wisp said: give or take, sure, and ya "by the way they vote you or the reasons", not because they did vote you... which is exactly my point Abu's voting for that? Thought is bc grave tunnel him or smthg. re #1163 "omgus being one of then :D" #mindfuck can't argue that lol |
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| wisp #1159 "also stop telling people how town I am for mindmelting with you, its starting to sound pockety and I don't like it." How much being a town read worries you, I wonder; pocketing aside |
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RE said: xD_Wisp said: I wouldn't have to if Abu had read the thread :/@RE also you can stop telling people how town I am for mindmelding with you, its starting to sound pockety and I dont like it... omgus being one of them :D |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
yurkin said: if you were in a certain game of mine, you would understand my worries...wisp #1159 "also stop telling people how town I am for mindmelting with you, its starting to sound pockety and I don't like it." How much being a town read worries you, I wonder; pocketing aside |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
_Wisp said: yurkin said: if you were in a certain game of mine, you would understand my worries...wisp #1159 "also stop telling people how town I am for mindmelting with you, its starting to sound pockety and I don't like it." How much being a town read worries you, I wonder; pocketing aside I'll take that it does worry you. Hmm was gonna ask what about that game, but can get it anyway. |
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| Borderline I want to vote wisp here~ |
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yurkin said: dont need permission, just do it, also, why?Borderline I want to vote wisp here~ |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
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| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
_Wisp said: yurkin said: dont need permission, just do it, also, why?Borderline I want to vote wisp here~ It look about normal that u beware pocketing, and that feel off. Wait a sec, beside that how do u look on re? |
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| Btw the said 1on1 between dias tainted did not looked serious. Accuasions of shading and such but in the end did not delivered real intention for 1on1. |
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| Who was the one to mention ash should have noticed tainted was tr dias on his reread, forgot who it was but I want to vote them. |
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yurkin said: Btw the said 1on1 between dias tainted did not looked serious. Accuasions of shading and such but in the end did not delivered real intention for 1on1. well yes, the convo kinda died, but I was hoping we could pick it up again, already said it, waiting for response |
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_Wisp said: @albertinodias well, from what i've read, you're just voting me rn because of 1-pride 2-OOG reasons and to top it of, if i sudly started to do that i would be viewd as mafia quiscker, so why bortehr. 1. no, this has everything to do with me thinking you are scum, there is no pride 2. What OoG reasons? ok so dont do anything, my vote will still be here if anyone is being prideful its you, because you fail to see or notice the things that you do, when you are scum first wisp, then grave, then denja, then luna('??), then you (and then tainted) because of wisps mentality, i had to defende myself vs at least 5 ppl... i think that when you ahve 5 ppl over you, you don't just say ho whatever and start hunting, at least i wouldn't and i didn't, if someone thinks i'm scum, if they have a bad logic i fight it, because, i'm 1 person, how is 1 person scum hunting better, with 3-4 ppl on him, when if i take my time to fight it, and if sucesseful, isntead of 1, now we have 4-5 ppl scumhinting?? wich one is the best but to end it... so after that post, where i "crushed" your meta on me, do yous till think i'm mafia because i'm defending myself?? or that was enough to make you calm down?? I didnt do anything to make other people vote you, you did, and you just cant seem to understand that, ya I sparked the flame, but I didnt fuel it... you did that and your train is now at just me, so why are you still going crazy over this... and even before RE unvoted, it was only at two, but you are freaking out over it, cant take pressure, then dont play mafia also nice omgus, you really showed me.... my vote stays I never said you made them vote/pressure Mr, and talking about them, I think it's pretty obvious, it was the first half of day 1... from what you've said, I'll I take out of it is that you did not read my long post about meta, or you're against it, in wich case I ask why? (btw that's why it's pride, because even when I shut you down with logic, your feelings talk louder, that's pride, just so you know) what you doing, pressure?? hahahahahahahahhahahahahaha (don't want to make my haha long but..) hahahahahha man, I'm "stressing" over this because I can't accept what you're doing, is logically wrong, I explained why, and you don't care, that's something that I can't just overlook. but I never OMGUS as mafia, for someone who knows my "meta" so good, let me tell you 👏 👏 👏 "also, there was once a game where I got a red check on him, and I couldnt get anyone to lynch him, needless to say there were two red factions that game, and still a decent amount of town, but no one, would vote Dias, because of w/e he was saying, and hes just not wiggling out of this" if this was a LOL skin would be called: definitely not OOG reasons. also I just noticed this "Also dismissing my case on him, irks me" do you still don't understand what you're doing wrong?? |
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AlbertinoDias said: no one gonna adress this or him/her overall?? ok... why did you claim (or claimed again), what are your opinions so far?? do you have anything to add into someone argument?? or even construct a case yourself?? why does it seems you are present but we never see you around?? Because I'm unpresent, duh. Basically got a shitty role so I thought I'll lurk a little. |
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| this is the 3rd time writing this... i hate the phone... @tainted, you backed down completely after someone pointed out you were town reading me, even if after 2 month you still do, why back down completely?? , shouldn't our interaction help other players have a better view of both my alignment and yours?? or do you think it was just fluff?? if so why?? |
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Rinto-kun said: AlbertinoDias said: no one gonna adress this or him/her overall?? ok... why did you claim (or claimed again), what are your opinions so far?? do you have anything to add into someone argument?? or even construct a case yourself?? why does it seems you are present but we never see you around?? Because I'm unpresent, duh. Basically got a shitty role so I thought I'll lurk a little. ok... but do you have any opinion on someone so far?? (lurk is never good tho) |
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AlbertinoDias said: Rinto-kun said: Because I'm unpresent, duh. Basically got a shitty role so I thought I'll lurk a little. ok... but do you have any opinion on someone so far?? (lurk is never good tho) Nothing so far to be honest, I'll rely on meta for the time being, but we'll see how my views change. |
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| lol found that post #870 "Also a bit surprised that abhutrash didn't pick this up when he read the game. Claims to have read the thread but didn't see that Tainted thought Dias was clear town? Did you think it was not important?" As I thought it was Luna, first thought is needless comment but she's not blaming ash, just surprised. I've noticed it myself, and thought reads as long time has passed there is no need to mention it. Like, you won't completely stick to your reads from two months ago. Yes, more surprised tainted backed off fast from its vote. Funny thing seeing dias' #1181 rn XD tho other people also noticed this stuff. |
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| Rinto-kun #1178 "Basically got a shitty role so I thought I'll lurk a little." For someone who knows what you dislike rolling that's pretty much softing ur role. |
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yurkin said: lol found that post #870 "Also a bit surprised that abhutrash didn't pick this up when he read the game. Claims to have read the thread but didn't see that Tainted thought Dias was clear town? Did you think it was not important?" As I thought it was Luna, first thought is needless comment but she's not blaming ash, just surprised. I've noticed it myself, and thought reads as long time has passed there is no need to mention it. Like, you won't completely stick to your reads from two months ago. Yes, more surprised tainted backed off fast from its vote. Funny thing seeing dias' #1181 rn XD tho other people also noticed this stuff. i'm not lurking tho, and although i was defending myself most of day1 2º part, that doesn't mean i've never expressed myself on other ppl throughout the game... and despite you saying other ppl noticed, no one took action, and he actually talked rn, so i call it a smal victory ^^ |
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AlbertinoDias said: yurkin said: lol found that post #870 "Also a bit surprised that abhutrash didn't pick this up when he read the game. Claims to have read the thread but didn't see that Tainted thought Dias was clear town? Did you think it was not important?" As I thought it was Luna, first thought is needless comment but she's not blaming ash, just surprised. I've noticed it myself, and thought reads as long time has passed there is no need to mention it. Like, you won't completely stick to your reads from two months ago. Yes, more surprised tainted backed off fast from its vote. Funny thing seeing dias' #1181 rn XD tho other people also noticed this stuff. i'm not lurking tho, and although i was defending myself most of day1 2º part, that doesn't mean i've never expressed myself on other ppl throughout the game... and despite you saying other ppl noticed, no one took action, and he actually talked rn, so i call it a smal victory ^^ ? who said ur lurking Iirc tainted has 4 votes rn,not all vote due to the backing off. No one took action hmm. Well for myself ik I didn't. "and he actually talked rn, so I call it a small victory?" XD who's "he"? |
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yurkin said: AlbertinoDias said: i'm not lurking tho, and although i was defending myself most of day1 2º part, that doesn't mean i've never expressed myself on other ppl throughout the game... and despite you saying other ppl noticed, no one took action, and he actually talked rn, so i call it a smal victory ^^ ? who said ur lurking Iirc tainted has 4 votes rn,not all vote due to the backing off. No one took action hmm. Well for myself ik I didn't. "and he actually talked rn, so I call it a small victory?" XD who's "he"? my #1181 was about rinto, so is my #1185 xD |
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AlbertinoDias said: that 1v1 is just thread clotter I'm not gonna talk more about the definition of shadingthis is the 3rd time writing this... i hate the phone... @tainted, you backed down completely after someone pointed out you were town reading me, even if after 2 month you still do, why back down completely?? , shouldn't our interaction help other players have a better view of both my alignment and yours?? or do you think it was just fluff?? if so why?? |
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Tainted said: AlbertinoDias said: that 1v1 is just thread clotter I'm not gonna talk more about the definition of shadingthis is the 3rd time writing this... i hate the phone... @tainted, you backed down completely after someone pointed out you were town reading me, even if after 2 month you still do, why back down completely?? , shouldn't our interaction help other players have a better view of both my alignment and yours?? or do you think it was just fluff?? if so why?? fair enough, it just seemed like a bad timing to want to stop it, that's all *shrug* |
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AlbertinoDias said: yurkin said: ? who said ur lurking Iirc tainted has 4 votes rn,not all vote due to the backing off. No one took action hmm. Well for myself ik I didn't. "and he actually talked rn, so I call it a small victory?" XD who's "he"? my #1181 was about rinto, so is my #1185 xD Got confusing because of this part "and despite you saying other ppl noticed" Since don't remember what was Rinto-kun talking about, rather what from the things he has said u are referring here? |
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yurkin said: Shading is to question someone's actions. Shading is to imply someone is scum without explicitly saying it, therefore avoiding suspicion on oneself while still trying to influence others thoughts |
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yurkin said: AlbertinoDias said: my #1181 was about rinto, so is my #1185 xD Got confusing because of this part "and despite you saying other ppl noticed" Since don't remember what was Rinto-kun talking about, rather what from the things he has said u are referring here? ok, so i take that when you said this: "tho other people also noticed this stuff." you were referring to tainted?? if so i though it was about rinto lurking i'm referring to nothing and that's the point, she wasn't talking about anything, these were almost the only posts he has done this far... |
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riku said: yurkin said: Shading is to question someone's actions. Shading is to imply someone is scum without explicitly saying it, therefore avoiding suspicion on oneself while still trying to influence others thoughts Like this one: "is worrying to me because all I get from your posts are me-Jack association, which was first brought up by yurkin. Obviously, I'd say this is already a failed association since I'm not scum :/" dono to wisp #494 |
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AlbertinoDias said: yurkin said: Got confusing because of this part "and despite you saying other ppl noticed" Since don't remember what was Rinto-kun talking about, rather what from the things he has said u are referring here? ok, so i take that when you said this: "tho other people also noticed this stuff." you were referring to tainted?? if so i though it was about rinto lurking i'm referring to nothing and that's the point, she wasn't talking about anything, these were almost the only posts he has done this far... Yes, it's about Tainted. |
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AlbertinoDias said: my past self said something about you being their strongest townread and Tainted said: that 1v1 is just thread clotter I'm not gonna talk more about the definition of shading fair enough, it just seemed like a bad timing to want to stop it, that's all *shrug* I planned to stop before even luna pointed out my past tr of you I think our 1v1 isn't really helpful. |
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Bur said: the case on me is really just weak idk if scum is going on with it or distancing from it doubt I got 3 scums there though.Vote Count 1.8 Tainted (4): Luna, Sleipnirr, Jackrito, DenjaX AlbertinoDias (2): _Wisp, RE grave_robber (2): AbuHumaid, Logic340 RE (1): Riku NewG (1): Abhutrash riku (1): yurkin AbuHumaid (1): grave_robber abhutrash (1): NewG yurkin (1): Karote Not Voting (5): Rinto-kun, AlbertinoDias, Kiiruma, Grrr, Tainted >>Day 1 Timer<< Anyway I'll try to find a spicy one before this day ends |
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Tainted said: AlbertinoDias said: my past self said something about you being their strongest townread and fair enough, it just seemed like a bad timing to want to stop it, that's all *shrug* I planned to stop before even luna pointed out my past tr of you I think our 1v1 isn't really helpful. ok, after re reading it, I agree that you were going to shut it off, although I disagree that the convo isn't helpful, everything is helpful |
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| when re-reding this kinda caught up my attention: abuT #838 while the first question is a good question wich i think RE didn't answer it, and i actually would like an answer to the second part is just straight out odd, so he says this: "As for my opinion on Abu, I'm like 0/3 on my reads for him (lol), so I'm placing him right in the middle for now." if he's 0/3 shouldn't he be a scum lean?? even if a slight one? but what really strange is the last part, "Don't wanna get caught down a rabbit hole with my dumb reads again", this makes me feel like he's afraid to scum/town read someone, and that worries me. |
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| Speaking about it, kiiruma said he sees the tainted/dias interaction as either t/t, or s/t. Got to disagree here. Rather is either t/t or s/s. |
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