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Sep 18, 2017 11:21 AM
#2551
Gruffin said: But it doesn't guarantee her alignment. What do you make of the timing of her claim? Do you think she had a reason to claim, especially considering she made this post:Because the believability of Kit's claim has nothing to do with her townreading you? It matches up with Sleip's claim in flavor and ability, so she must have it. Kit said: RE1031 said: Are you town clearing him simply based on that interaction? What if he's fishing and using the newbie card to get away with it?It's okay, I expected to have to claim today anyway. Plus I can townclear you. RE1031 said: "I'm gonna claim PR so you can't lynch me but I won't tell you which PR until later so I can figure out which PR to claim" ^^Exactly, so he isn't. But it's cool. It'll be fun to beat around the bush for a bit before I have to full claim. And don't tell me you were outed.. you could have easily lied and said no. Or ignored him. Also, what is your current read on me? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 18, 2017 11:21 AM
#2552
Gruffin said: honestly this is why I'm not gunna spend all day focusing on this. Where do we draw the line on who's bussing, pocketing and etc... We can't keep being divided, so how voting Cross with us?@Phraze Let me get this straight: You think that Rosie is town because she suspected Cross and Roz D2 and you think they are scum (2510), but when Kit suspects Roz, it's because they're buddies (2516)? Phraze said: The one I outlined in my case at the start of this Day.Gruffin said: Well, I'm thinking Phraze is the more likely scum out of the two considering that her posts have this concrete scum mindset behind them while Roz's are scummy because they aren't explained clearly. Phraze strongest scumread, roz is a maybe. Rosie possible lurkscum, but nothing to really back that up other than a feeling. Originally, I was thinking that Sleip could be scum due to being the weakest link in the VCs, buuut Kit's claim kinda confirms him in a weird sort of way? Because the believability of Kit's claim has nothing to do with her townreading you? It matches up with Sleip's claim in flavor and ability, so she must have it. |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 18, 2017 11:25 AM
#2553
@Gruffin actually keep doing what ur doing, this might actually help me sort out Roz Vs Phraze. But I don't think my Kit or Cross scum slots will change any time soon |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 18, 2017 11:26 AM
#2554
AlbertinoDias said: Do you mean you've confirmed Abu?I was writing a post and my phone erased everything... so... the summary: for the love of God everyone, just claim so everyone can analise the claims cuz I don't see us getting anywhere like this... I'm the medicine seller, I can confirm if someone has used an night action, and I can confirm that day4, if Abu is still alive, then I have no more to say, he is town, if he's dead, we'll see anyway, Phraze said: This is completely misrepresenting what I've said about you and Roz. >_>and honestly, I would like Gruffin to explain to me how surviving 2 EoD trains D1 scummy behavior when cornered and tunneling on me rather than Cross who hammered claimed pr makes Roz town what if I'm bussing? be grateful I don't see why anyone would oppose a Roz lynch its the least likely to backfire I'm not even townreading him right now. |
Sep 18, 2017 11:28 AM
#2555
RE1031 said: @AbuHumaid I'm claiming flavor. I'm Kurapika. Wanna come back? :3 AlbertinoDias said: @Crossbell Why did you think Dias was going to die? Also, why are you so quick to dismiss the possibility of a mafia roleblocker? Additionally, there are many other roles that could screw up the results - redirector, for example.and yeah, lynch Cross, thought I was going to die?? souds like an excuse to tell you the truth... @AlbertinoDias How does your ability work? Do you choose one person a night and learn whether they used a night action or not? If that is the case, who did you target for the past two nights? yes it is, you and cross, both use a night action, but it could still be a mafia using it Phraze said: AlbertinoDias said: would like clarification on that. u think the medicine seller is bad so it confirms?I can confirm that flavour as nothing to do with alignment no, because I asked that question... |
Sep 18, 2017 11:29 AM
#2556
Gruffin said: so I don't get what's ur main point for all of this?AlbertinoDias said: Do you mean you've confirmed Abu?I was writing a post and my phone erased everything... so... the summary: for the love of God everyone, just claim so everyone can analise the claims cuz I don't see us getting anywhere like this... I'm the medicine seller, I can confirm if someone has used an night action, and I can confirm that day4, if Abu is still alive, then I have no more to say, he is town, if he's dead, we'll see anyway, Phraze said: This is completely misrepresenting what I've said about you and Roz. >_>and honestly, I would like Gruffin to explain to me how surviving 2 EoD trains D1 scummy behavior when cornered and tunneling on me rather than Cross who hammered claimed pr makes Roz town what if I'm bussing? be grateful I don't see why anyone would oppose a Roz lynch its the least likely to backfire I'm not even townreading him right now. |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 18, 2017 11:29 AM
#2557
AlbertinoDias said: RE1031 said: @AbuHumaid I'm claiming flavor. I'm Kurapika. Wanna come back? :3 AlbertinoDias said: and yeah, lynch Cross, thought I was going to die?? souds like an excuse to tell you the truth... @AlbertinoDias How does your ability work? Do you choose one person a night and learn whether they used a night action or not? If that is the case, who did you target for the past two nights? yes it is, you and cross, both use a night action, but it could still be a mafia using it Phraze said: AlbertinoDias said: I can confirm that flavour as nothing to do with alignment no, because I asked that question... and because I did not know if he was a bad or good guy as well |
Sep 18, 2017 11:31 AM
#2558
Gruffin said: AlbertinoDias said: Do you mean you've confirmed Abu?I was writing a post and my phone erased everything... so... the summary: for the love of God everyone, just claim so everyone can analise the claims cuz I don't see us getting anywhere like this... I'm the medicine seller, I can confirm if someone has used an night action, and I can confirm that day4, if Abu is still alive, then I have no more to say, he is town, if he's dead, we'll see anyway, Phraze said: This is completely misrepresenting what I've said about you and Roz. >_>and honestly, I would like Gruffin to explain to me how surviving 2 EoD trains D1 scummy behavior when cornered and tunneling on me rather than Cross who hammered claimed pr makes Roz town what if I'm bussing? be grateful I don't see why anyone would oppose a Roz lynch its the least likely to backfire I'm not even townreading him right now. it means what it means budy :* edit:body to budy |
Sep 18, 2017 11:34 AM
#2559
RE1031 said: True.Gruffin said: But it doesn't guarantee her alignment. What do you make of the timing of her claim? Do you think she had a reason to claim, especially considering she made this post:Because the believability of Kit's claim has nothing to do with her townreading you? It matches up with Sleip's claim in flavor and ability, so she must have it. Kit said: RE1031 said: It's okay, I expected to have to claim today anyway. Plus I can townclear you. RE1031 said: Exactly, so he isn't. But it's cool. It'll be fun to beat around the bush for a bit before I have to full claim. And don't tell me you were outed.. you could have easily lied and said no. Or ignored him. Also, what is your current read on me? I'm going to speculate a bit and say that maybe it was because she hasn't been able to be present for the past couple of phase changes as a result of her busy schedule? Dunno, we would have to ask her about it when she comes online next. And that post looks like she just doesn't believe your claim because you weren't upfront about it. I disagree with her read on you because you've been towning it up recently and I'd rather read you off of that than mechanics. Proactive, questioning others to read them, pushing your reads, etc. |
Sep 18, 2017 11:36 AM
#2560
@phraze what if I'm bussing? be grateful I don't see why anyone would oppose a Roz lynch its the least likely to backfireI don't see the same way as you here because like I said, I don't believe u both are scum, so I wouldn't considered this bussing but more of trying to push the lynch on a townie that has made himself look terribly scummy. With that being said I still am slightly unsure, and that is why I'd rather see Kit or Cross gone |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 18, 2017 11:38 AM
#2561
lastwhisper31 said: No thanks, this train popped up way too fast over...what, exactly?honestly this is why I'm not gunna spend all day focusing on this. Where do we draw the line on who's bussing, pocketing and etc... We can't keep being divided, so how voting Cross with us? I'm townreading him anyhow. lastwhisper31 said: You could vote Phraze with me and we can sort her out that way. :3c@Gruffin actually keep doing what ur doing, this might actually help me sort out Roz Vs Phraze. But I don't think my Kit or Cross scum slots will change any time soon |
Sep 18, 2017 11:40 AM
#2562
Gruffin said: well the only person they have a slight scum read with on this train would be phraze and how can u still possibly town lean Cross?lastwhisper31 said: No thanks, this train popped up way too fast over...what, exactly?honestly this is why I'm not gunna spend all day focusing on this. Where do we draw the line on who's bussing, pocketing and etc... We can't keep being divided, so how voting Cross with us? I'm townreading him anyhow. lastwhisper31 said: You could vote Phraze with me and we can sort her out that way. :3c@Gruffin actually keep doing what ur doing, this might actually help me sort out Roz Vs Phraze. But I don't think my Kit or Cross scum slots will change any time soon |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 18, 2017 11:48 AM
#2563
lastwhisper31 said: Main point is they both are scummy, but Phraze is more scummy than Roz. so I don't get what's ur main point for all of this? lastwhisper31 said: I feel like I'm missing something with the suspicion on Cross...xDwell the only person they have a slight scum read with on this train would be phraze and how can u still possibly town lean Cross? Is it the claim? |
Sep 18, 2017 11:49 AM
#2564
Gruffin said: I really don't know what to make of giving people free passes because their schedule is busy. That's the excuse I always pull out as scum, and as town, I still manage to make time for the game.I'm going to speculate a bit and say that maybe it was because she hasn't been able to be present for the past couple of phase changes as a result of her busy schedule? Dunno, we would have to ask her about it when she comes online next. And that post looks like she just doesn't believe your claim because you weren't upfront about it. What about Crossbell makes you townread him? Recent stuff. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 18, 2017 11:52 AM
#2565
Gruffin said: I mean his reasoning for sniping a uncountered rber claim was because he didn't want to be rb'd. And yes I believe his parity cop claim can easily be mafia. But if we are gunna be divided over Roz/Phraze then I'm gunna go with my next strongest scum lean. ROZ SHOULD HAVE BEEN GONE DAY 1 TBH.lastwhisper31 said: Main point is they both are scummy, but Phraze is more scummy than Roz. so I don't get what's ur main point for all of this? lastwhisper31 said: I feel like I'm missing something with the suspicion on Cross...xDwell the only person they have a slight scum read with on this train would be phraze and how can u still possibly town lean Cross? Is it the claim? |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 18, 2017 11:57 AM
#2566
RE1031 said: Shrug. Like I said, I'd like to hear why Kit claimed from her.I really don't know what to make of giving people free passes because their schedule is busy. That's the excuse I always pull out as scum, and as town, I still manage to make time for the game. What about Crossbell makes you townread him? Recent stuff. For Cross's recent stuff, I buy his claim. Voting Grrr EoD1 makes sense since that's eliminating a player that would prevent him from getting any results with his ability, which had the potential to catch scum. His targets also make sense because he strongly townread me and strongly scumread aa, so comparing our alignments together was an optimal way to sort out someone that he couldn't interact with in-thread. |
Sep 18, 2017 11:57 AM
#2567
Unpopular Opinion: I don't think roz is going to flip scum. Like... At this point, he's more of a burden, but I think it's far more likely that scum would be coasting under the radar and that's not happening with roz. Unless there's bussing involved. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 18, 2017 11:59 AM
#2568
lastwhisper31 said: Why would mafia even need a parity cop?I mean his reasoning for sniping a uncountered rber claim was because he didn't want to be rb'd. And yes I believe his parity cop claim can easily be mafia. But if we are gunna be divided over Roz/Phraze then I'm gunna go with my next strongest scum lean. ROZ SHOULD HAVE BEEN GONE DAY 1 TBH. Yeahhhh I wish we got rid of roz earlier. |
Sep 18, 2017 12:06 PM
#2569
Gruffin said: Sure, but there's only so much time we have.RE1031 said: Shrug. Like I said, I'd like to hear why Kit claimed from her.I really don't know what to make of giving people free passes because their schedule is busy. That's the excuse I always pull out as scum, and as town, I still manage to make time for the game. What about Crossbell makes you townread him? Recent stuff. For Cross's recent stuff, I buy his claim. Voting Grrr EoD1 makes sense since that's eliminating a player that would prevent him from getting any results with his ability, which had the potential to catch scum. His targets also make sense because he strongly townread me and strongly scumread aa, so comparing our alignments together was an optimal way to sort out someone that he couldn't interact with in-thread. I disagree so strongly with the vote switch. There was no guarantee that grrr would roleblock him, and given how strongly he decided to defend Ruu, that vote switch should have never been an option for him. aa was inactive. We see now she's probably going to be modkilled. Cross didn't explain why aa was scummy to begin with, and with the parity cop shot, I think it's far more useful to use it on people who are actually interacting with others. Why not use it on roz, who's one of the biggest causes of all this chaos? His night action choice does not make any sense to me, and the last time I saw that happen, he was scum. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 18, 2017 12:06 PM
#2570
Vote: Kit @kit, what is the info you got from your tracker ability? @Sleipnirr same to you... @Gruffin ok so I hate how ur making me have second thoughts, and honestly that Cross vote did move a little too fast for me. |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 18, 2017 12:13 PM
#2571
@Gruffin gonna quote and reply but first lmao ur scumreading me but townreading Kit. Kit townreads me?? what u think about LW wanting to lynch Kit? also, isnt my flavor claim enough? oh and @AlbertinoDias the medicine seller isnt bad, stuff he did was mostly letting ppl come to terms with their reality and lies etc |
Sep 18, 2017 12:16 PM
#2572
Gruffin said: - yes. bussing wasnt necessary at that point. Roz survived 2 EoD trains so everyone suspects him now, why wouldn't he be bussed(if he was scum)?@Phraze Let me get this straight: You think that Rosie is town because she suspected Cross and Roz D2 and you think they are scum (2510), but when Kit suspects Roz, it's because they're buddies (2516)? Phraze said: The one I outlined in my case at the start of this Day.Gruffin said: Well, I'm thinking Phraze is the more likely scum out of the two considering that her posts have this concrete scum mindset behind them while Roz's are scummy because they aren't explained clearly. Phraze strongest scumread, roz is a maybe. Rosie possible lurkscum, but nothing to really back that up other than a feeling. Originally, I was thinking that Sleip could be scum due to being the weakest link in the VCs, buuut Kit's claim kinda confirms him in a weird sort of way? Because the believability of Kit's claim has nothing to do with her townreading you? It matches up with Sleip's claim in flavor and ability, so she must have it. - if u townread Kit u should also trust her reads. how can u find scum on ur own? this is (234535 times alrdy) about teamwork, where u compare reads. how do u expect to compare reads or even opinions with Kit if u both disagree on me? |
Sep 18, 2017 12:18 PM
#2573
lastwhisper31 said: I'll tell u I'm sure Roz is scum. why? cuz he has insane luck and scum arent (mis)lynching him despite such a scummy asspull behavior for 2 full phases@Gruffin actually keep doing what ur doing, this might actually help me sort out Roz Vs Phraze. But I don't think my Kit or Cross scum slots will change any time soon |
Sep 18, 2017 12:20 PM
#2574
Gruffin said: if Roz and me are bussing each other, wouldnt u be happy? thats what I'm asking. ur just contradicting urselfAlbertinoDias said: Do you mean you've confirmed Abu?I was writing a post and my phone erased everything... so... the summary: for the love of God everyone, just claim so everyone can analise the claims cuz I don't see us getting anywhere like this... I'm the medicine seller, I can confirm if someone has used an night action, and I can confirm that day4, if Abu is still alive, then I have no more to say, he is town, if he's dead, we'll see anyway, Phraze said: This is completely misrepresenting what I've said about you and Roz. >_>and honestly, I would like Gruffin to explain to me how surviving 2 EoD trains D1 scummy behavior when cornered and tunneling on me rather than Cross who hammered claimed pr makes Roz town what if I'm bussing? be grateful I don't see why anyone would oppose a Roz lynch its the least likely to backfire I'm not even townreading him right now. |
Sep 18, 2017 12:21 PM
#2575
Gruffin said: lol ok. if u disagree with Kit pushing RE, and townreading me, why do u still believe her?RE1031 said: True.Gruffin said: Because the believability of Kit's claim has nothing to do with her townreading you? It matches up with Sleip's claim in flavor and ability, so she must have it. Kit said: RE1031 said: Are you town clearing him simply based on that interaction? What if he's fishing and using the newbie card to get away with it?It's okay, I expected to have to claim today anyway. Plus I can townclear you. RE1031 said: "I'm gonna claim PR so you can't lynch me but I won't tell you which PR until later so I can figure out which PR to claim" ^^Exactly, so he isn't. But it's cool. It'll be fun to beat around the bush for a bit before I have to full claim. And don't tell me you were outed.. you could have easily lied and said no. Or ignored him. Also, what is your current read on me? I'm going to speculate a bit and say that maybe it was because she hasn't been able to be present for the past couple of phase changes as a result of her busy schedule? Dunno, we would have to ask her about it when she comes online next. And that post looks like she just doesn't believe your claim because you weren't upfront about it. I disagree with her read on you because you've been towning it up recently and I'd rather read you off of that than mechanics. Proactive, questioning others to read them, pushing your reads, etc. |
Sep 18, 2017 12:22 PM
#2576
Phraze said: yes but both town and scum have saved his ass tbh.lastwhisper31 said: I'll tell u I'm sure Roz is scum. why? cuz he has insane luck and scum arent (mis)lynching him despite such a scummy asspull behavior for 2 full phases@Gruffin actually keep doing what ur doing, this might actually help me sort out Roz Vs Phraze. But I don't think my Kit or Cross scum slots will change any time soon |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 18, 2017 12:23 PM
#2577
lastwhisper31 said: only time I been in that town/town situation was with Ruu, in my 1st game, and ofc we lost. lol@phraze what if I'm bussing? be grateful I don't see why anyone would oppose a Roz lynch its the least likely to backfire I don't see the same way as you here because like I said, I don't believe u both are scum, so I wouldn't considered this bussing but more of trying to push the lynch on a townie that has made himself look terribly scummy. With that being said I still am slightly unsure, and that is why I'd rather see Kit or Cross gone Roz isnt Ruu. thats why I can go ahead with this |
Sep 18, 2017 12:23 PM
#2578
Gruffin said: if I flip town follow my reads and I'll oblige. lynch me plslastwhisper31 said: No thanks, this train popped up way too fast over...what, exactly?honestly this is why I'm not gunna spend all day focusing on this. Where do we draw the line on who's bussing, pocketing and etc... We can't keep being divided, so how voting Cross with us? I'm townreading him anyhow. lastwhisper31 said: You could vote Phraze with me and we can sort her out that way. :3c@Gruffin actually keep doing what ur doing, this might actually help me sort out Roz Vs Phraze. But I don't think my Kit or Cross scum slots will change any time soon |
Sep 18, 2017 12:25 PM
#2579
Sep 18, 2017 12:26 PM
#2580
Phraze said: Phraze I swear to god lmao, I will put my foot so far up ur assGruffin said: if I flip town follow my reads and I'll oblige. lynch me plslastwhisper31 said: honestly this is why I'm not gunna spend all day focusing on this. Where do we draw the line on who's bussing, pocketing and etc... We can't keep being divided, so how voting Cross with us? I'm townreading him anyhow. lastwhisper31 said: @Gruffin actually keep doing what ur doing, this might actually help me sort out Roz Vs Phraze. But I don't think my Kit or Cross scum slots will change any time soon |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 18, 2017 12:28 PM
#2581
lastwhisper31 said: I think I just discovered my new crack ship.Phraze said: Phraze I swear to god lmao, I will put my foot so far up ur assGruffin said: lastwhisper31 said: No thanks, this train popped up way too fast over...what, exactly?honestly this is why I'm not gunna spend all day focusing on this. Where do we draw the line on who's bussing, pocketing and etc... We can't keep being divided, so how voting Cross with us? I'm townreading him anyhow. lastwhisper31 said: You could vote Phraze with me and we can sort her out that way. :3c@Gruffin actually keep doing what ur doing, this might actually help me sort out Roz Vs Phraze. But I don't think my Kit or Cross scum slots will change any time soon |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 18, 2017 12:31 PM
#2582
- parity cop reminds me of role cop. just personal lmao - spotted Roz first and he started getting scummier, like on cue - switched to claimed pr, and Roz didnt even claim - Roz had Cross on the end of his group to check first. after D2 he moved Gruffin to 1st, me to last. I asked many times for him to check Cross first but he refused - Cross should've been suspected first for that D1 play, but nope Roz decided to go after me with an asspull of all things (failure to notice a better tell shows he isnt town) - I compromised and asked Roz to look into other players, but he didnt budge. esp on Cross - if u check EoD2, Cross voted Sleipnirr, then Karote. when Karote appeared he asked for a claim -fishing- and the Cross ik won't ask for claim unless he's grilled the player first |
Sep 18, 2017 12:33 PM
#2583
RE1031 said: this aint the first lel #everyonehatestoloveme <3lastwhisper31 said: I think I just discovered my new crack ship.Phraze said: Gruffin said: if I flip town follow my reads and I'll oblige. lynch me plslastwhisper31 said: No thanks, this train popped up way too fast over...what, exactly?honestly this is why I'm not gunna spend all day focusing on this. Where do we draw the line on who's bussing, pocketing and etc... We can't keep being divided, so how voting Cross with us? I'm townreading him anyhow. lastwhisper31 said: You could vote Phraze with me and we can sort her out that way. :3c@Gruffin actually keep doing what ur doing, this might actually help me sort out Roz Vs Phraze. But I don't think my Kit or Cross scum slots will change any time soon |
Sep 18, 2017 12:36 PM
#2584
lastwhisper31 said: mastermind behind it is Cross lmao. he strongly disagreed with RE and then hammered last min. D2 he said RE strongarmed the lynch. like tfPhraze said: yes but both town and scum have saved his ass tbh.lastwhisper31 said: @Gruffin actually keep doing what ur doing, this might actually help me sort out Roz Vs Phraze. But I don't think my Kit or Cross scum slots will change any time soon [edit: also made Karote spotlights EoD2] |
Sep 18, 2017 12:39 PM
#2585
Phraze said: @gruffin what do you think of Phrazes points here?lastwhisper31 said: mastermind behind it is Cross lmao. he strongly disagreed with RE and then hammered last min. D2 he said RE strongarmed the lynch. like tfPhraze said: lastwhisper31 said: I'll tell u I'm sure Roz is scum. why? cuz he has insane luck and scum arent (mis)lynching him despite such a scummy asspull behavior for 2 full phases@Gruffin actually keep doing what ur doing, this might actually help me sort out Roz Vs Phraze. But I don't think my Kit or Cross scum slots will change any time soon [edit: also made Karote spotlights EoD2] |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 18, 2017 12:42 PM
#2586
Phraze said: @Gruffin do u remember how u believed Penta? :P- parity cop reminds me of role cop. just personal lmao |
Sep 18, 2017 12:46 PM
#2587
RE1031 said: possible bus so far is from Kit. but dunno. I'm sure Roz is scum cuz of the Cross umbrella thoUnpopular Opinion: I don't think roz is going to flip scum. Like... At this point, he's more of a burden, but I think it's far more likely that scum would be coasting under the radar and that's not happening with roz. Unless there's bussing involved. also, I rly hope Gruffin sorts her paranoia before EoD. I'm rly getting suspicious of her =.= |
Sep 18, 2017 12:49 PM
#2588
Phraze said: Same. Actually, here, have this post I wasn't going to post until later but why not:RE1031 said: possible bus so far is from Kit. but dunno. I'm sure Roz is scum cuz of the Cross umbrella thoUnpopular Opinion: I don't think roz is going to flip scum. Like... At this point, he's more of a burden, but I think it's far more likely that scum would be coasting under the radar and that's not happening with roz. Unless there's bussing involved. also, I rly hope Gruffin sorts her paranoia before EoD. I'm rly getting suspicious of her =.= I'm going to confess something that's been on the back of my mind: I think Crossbell and Gruffin are powerwolfing through this game. Like I didn't want to say this given how wrong I was about Ruu, but... In the vengeful micro game where Cross was scum and I subbed in temporarily for Ruu who was scum, I was able to get a peek at the discussion they were having in the scum chat, this post stands out to me: Crossbell said: @Ruu - I kind of want to try power wolfing this game. And by trying it, I mean by committing ourselves greatly to it and hard-townread each other. http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/3686-9-The-Art-of-Power-Wolfing-%28by-Thingyman%29 Read that, let me know what you think. I'll try to be active. I think the way Gruffin and Crossbell have been townreading each other is completely unnatural, and if Crossbell was town, he'd be getting a hell of a lot more flack for the vote switch day 1. It does not help his cause that I am townreading everyone on his train. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 18, 2017 12:56 PM
#2589
RE1031 said: not the first time I seen powerwolfing, quite a player myself. tho my motto is to always let my enemies play themselves out. so either way, I'll keep presenting scenarios in the language they want it. trump them by their own logic. revenge is best lolPhraze said: Same. Actually, here, have this post I wasn't going to post until later but why not:RE1031 said: Unpopular Opinion: I don't think roz is going to flip scum. Like... At this point, he's more of a burden, but I think it's far more likely that scum would be coasting under the radar and that's not happening with roz. Unless there's bussing involved. also, I rly hope Gruffin sorts her paranoia before EoD. I'm rly getting suspicious of her =.= I'm going to confess something that's been on the back of my mind: I think Crossbell and Gruffin are powerwolfing through this game. Like I didn't want to say this given how wrong I was about Ruu, but... In the vengeful micro game where Cross was scum and I subbed in temporarily for Ruu who was scum, I was able to get a peek at the discussion they were having in the scum chat, this post stands out to me: Crossbell said: @Ruu - I kind of want to try power wolfing this game. And by trying it, I mean by committing ourselves greatly to it and hard-townread each other. http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/3686-9-The-Art-of-Power-Wolfing-%28by-Thingyman%29 Read that, let me know what you think. I'll try to be active. I think the way Gruffin and Crossbell have been townreading each other is completely unnatural, and if Crossbell was town, he'd be getting a hell of a lot more flack for the vote switch day 1. It does not help his cause that I am townreading everyone on his train. tho its a good thing bringing up Gruffin as a possibility. lets see what happens. |
Sep 18, 2017 12:56 PM
#2590
RE1031 said: @Crossbell, could you respond to these points?Sure, but there's only so much time we have. I disagree so strongly with the vote switch. There was no guarantee that grrr would roleblock him, and given how strongly he decided to defend Ruu, that vote switch should have never been an option for him. aa was inactive. We see now she's probably going to be modkilled. Cross didn't explain why aa was scummy to begin with, and with the parity cop shot, I think it's far more useful to use it on people who are actually interacting with others. Why not use it on roz, who's one of the biggest causes of all this chaos? His night action choice does not make any sense to me, and the last time I saw that happen, he was scum. Phraze said: SIGH.@Gruffin gonna quote and reply but first lmao ur scumreading me but townreading Kit. Kit townreads me?? what u think about LW wanting to lynch Kit? also, isnt my flavor claim enough? oh and @AlbertinoDias the medicine seller isnt bad, stuff he did was mostly letting ppl come to terms with their reality and lies etc I don't read by association like that. That's why I asked her for her take on my case on you in the first place. LW's vote makes sense, seems like he's trying to work out Kit/Sleip. What does your flavor claim even prove? It's either NAI or you could have come up with a fake claim. |
Sep 18, 2017 1:03 PM
#2591
Phraze said: 1. This is assuming that the mafia team is bussing each other.- yes. bussing wasnt necessary at that point. Roz survived 2 EoD trains so everyone suspects him now, why wouldn't he be bussed(if he was scum)? - if u townread Kit u should also trust her reads. how can u find scum on ur own? this is (234535 times alrdy) about teamwork, where u compare reads. how do u expect to compare reads or even opinions with Kit if u both disagree on me? 2. I am comparing reads, like I said. Disagreeing on you allows us to have a convo about your alignment, which is much better than blind trust, imo. Phraze said: If you and Roz are bussing each other, then I'd want to figure out that you're both scum. '_>' The purpose of bussing is to gain towncred and make it harder to catch the bussers.if Roz and me are bussing each other, wouldnt u be happy? thats what I'm asking. ur just contradicting urself Phraze said: If believe that her claim isn't fake. It has nothing to do with alignment.lol ok. if u disagree with Kit pushing RE, and townreading me, why do u still believe her? |
Sep 18, 2017 1:05 PM
#2592
Gruffin said: ur gonna suspect me even when Kit is busy?? did u just contradict urself again? lay off if u got no idea, dont wine town plsPhraze said: SIGH.@Gruffin gonna quote and reply but first lmao ur scumreading me but townreading Kit. Kit townreads me?? what u think about LW wanting to lynch Kit? also, isnt my flavor claim enough? oh and @AlbertinoDias the medicine seller isnt bad, stuff he did was mostly letting ppl come to terms with their reality and lies etc I don't read by association like that. That's why I asked her for her take on my case on you in the first place. LW's vote makes sense, seems like he's trying to work out Kit/Sleip. What does your flavor claim even prove? It's either NAI or you could have come up with a fake claim. lel. I alrdy asked if u wanted to hear my claim or not but u didnt reply. when I flavorclaimed u discredit it. if u didnt bother to hear my claim then don't try to discredit it. I said it for others, not u. also, I alrdy hinted stuff like genre and whether I liked the chara or not. its not as if I can prepare the fakeclaim in advance. I'm too lazy for that. come to think of it, my behavior is more solid proof then my mechanics(claim) so ofc I would rely on that the most. yet u want to discredit my behavior how much do u want to discredit about me? until I flip? isnt that banking on a flip? scummy dont u think |
Sep 18, 2017 1:08 PM
#2593
RE1031 said: I was bringing up a possibility, mostly. @Gruffin Why are you making excuses for Kit when you had no qualms with lynching Karote yesterday? Karote hasn't been showing that he cares about the game, unlike Kit. Phraze said: I feel like I've already addressed all these points, and half of them are preflip association.- parity cop reminds me of role cop. just personal lmao - spotted Roz first and he started getting scummier, like on cue - switched to claimed pr, and Roz didnt even claim - Roz had Cross on the end of his group to check first. after D2 he moved Gruffin to 1st, me to last. I asked many times for him to check Cross first but he refused - Cross should've been suspected first for that D1 play, but nope Roz decided to go after me with an asspull of all things (failure to notice a better tell shows he isnt town) - I compromised and asked Roz to look into other players, but he didnt budge. esp on Cross - if u check EoD2, Cross voted Sleipnirr, then Karote. when Karote appeared he asked for a claim -fishing- and the Cross ik won't ask for claim unless he's grilled the player first lastwhisper31 said: Lol that was me who thought RE might have been strongarming at start of D2. Phraze said: @gruffin what do you think of Phrazes points here?lastwhisper31 said: Phraze said: yes but both town and scum have saved his ass tbh.lastwhisper31 said: I'll tell u I'm sure Roz is scum. why? cuz he has insane luck and scum arent (mis)lynching him despite such a scummy asspull behavior for 2 full phases@Gruffin actually keep doing what ur doing, this might actually help me sort out Roz Vs Phraze. But I don't think my Kit or Cross scum slots will change any time soon [edit: also made Karote spotlights EoD2] |
Sep 18, 2017 1:10 PM
#2594
Phraze said: Uhh I was screaming for Penta's and Kit's lol lynch that game. Phraze said: @Gruffin do u remember how u believed Penta? :P- parity cop reminds me of role cop. just personal lmao |
Sep 18, 2017 1:11 PM
#2595
@gruffin the only thing kit has done over Karote is place a vote, so I don't agree. Life is not an excuse to miss 48 hours regardless of ur alignment, that's disrespectful to the people that are actually playing the game. |
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Sep 18, 2017 1:14 PM
#2596
Gruffin said: - from the flips so far, mafia isnt bussing. u expect Rosie on D2 to be so generous?Phraze said: 1. This is assuming that the mafia team is bussing each other.- yes. bussing wasnt necessary at that point. Roz survived 2 EoD trains so everyone suspects him now, why wouldn't he be bussed(if he was scum)? - if u townread Kit u should also trust her reads. how can u find scum on ur own? this is (234535 times alrdy) about teamwork, where u compare reads. how do u expect to compare reads or even opinions with Kit if u both disagree on me? 2. I am comparing reads, like I said. Disagreeing on you allows us to have a convo about your alignment, which is much better than blind trust, imo. Phraze said: If you and Roz are bussing each other, then I'd want to figure out that you're both scum. '_>' The purpose of bussing is to gain towncred and make it harder to catch the bussers.if Roz and me are bussing each other, wouldnt u be happy? thats what I'm asking. ur just contradicting urself Phraze said: If believe that her claim isn't fake. It has nothing to do with alignment.lol ok. if u disagree with Kit pushing RE, and townreading me, why do u still believe her? - we alrdy had a convo about my alignment. lets turn the tables now, what is ur alignment? - do u want to catch scum or not? after 4 flips I'm sure town would be more than happy to see some bussing - u got it messed up there lol. her claim can be true, but she's townreading me. if her alignment is town and she agrees with me, wouldn't u say I'm town? it does have smthing to do with her alignment, since she reads me as town while saying she's town. |
Sep 18, 2017 1:15 PM
#2597
Gruffin said: not rly. u were screaming at the volume of a mouse xDPhraze said: Uhh I was screaming for Penta's and Kit's lol lynch that game. Phraze said: - parity cop reminds me of role cop. just personal lmao |
Sep 18, 2017 1:17 PM
#2598
Gruffin said: Scum care about the game. They care about maintaining an image that they're trying to solve it. Whereas town who are disengaged won't even bother. From my experience, if we're comparing all the lurkers/disengaged players to each other, town are the ones who are not going to be bothering to maintain that image whereas scum are going to be popping in just often enough.RE1031 said: I was bringing up a possibility, mostly. @Gruffin Why are you making excuses for Kit when you had no qualms with lynching Karote yesterday? Karote hasn't been showing that he cares about the game, unlike Kit. Rosie falls under this category alongside Kit. What are your thoughts on her? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 18, 2017 1:19 PM
#2599
I'd laugh if Cross and I managed to roll scum together again. xD Alas. Phraze said: WHAT CONTRADICTIONur gonna suspect me even when Kit is busy?? did u just contradict urself again? lay off if u got no idea, dont wine town pls lel. I alrdy asked if u wanted to hear my claim or not but u didnt reply. when I flavorclaimed u discredit it. if u didnt bother to hear my claim then don't try to discredit it. I said it for others, not u. also, I alrdy hinted stuff like genre and whether I liked the chara or not. its not as if I can prepare the fakeclaim in advance. I'm too lazy for that. come to think of it, my behavior is more solid proof then my mechanics(claim) so ofc I would rely on that the most. yet u want to discredit my behavior how much do u want to discredit about me? until I flip? isnt that banking on a flip? scummy dont u think I don't know??? Like, aren't all the PRs already outed by now anyway? Claiming this early is just bizarre. Literally where am I discrediting you. I've been pointing out things within your logic that either come from a scum mindset or don't add up. lastwhisper31 said: Agree that she needs to participate more, but I've at least had stuff to read her on unlike Karote.@gruffin the only thing kit has done over Karote is place a vote, so I don't agree. Life is not an excuse to miss 48 hours regardless of ur alignment, that's disrespectful to the people that are actually playing the game. |
Sep 18, 2017 1:19 PM
#2600
Gruffin said: - preflip association but they all point to Roz. u also suspect me and Roz, so lets lynch Roz. one step at a time. agreed?RE1031 said: I was bringing up a possibility, mostly. @Gruffin Why are you making excuses for Kit when you had no qualms with lynching Karote yesterday? Karote hasn't been showing that he cares about the game, unlike Kit. Phraze said: I feel like I've already addressed all these points, and half of them are preflip association.- parity cop reminds me of role cop. just personal lmao - spotted Roz first and he started getting scummier, like on cue - switched to claimed pr, and Roz didnt even claim - Roz had Cross on the end of his group to check first. after D2 he moved Gruffin to 1st, me to last. I asked many times for him to check Cross first but he refused - Cross should've been suspected first for that D1 play, but nope Roz decided to go after me with an asspull of all things (failure to notice a better tell shows he isnt town) - I compromised and asked Roz to look into other players, but he didnt budge. esp on Cross - if u check EoD2, Cross voted Sleipnirr, then Karote. when Karote appeared he asked for a claim -fishing- and the Cross ik won't ask for claim unless he's grilled the player first lastwhisper31 said: Lol that was me who thought RE might have been strongarming at start of D2. Phraze said: lastwhisper31 said: mastermind behind it is Cross lmao. he strongly disagreed with RE and then hammered last min. D2 he said RE strongarmed the lynch. like tfPhraze said: yes but both town and scum have saved his ass tbh.lastwhisper31 said: I'll tell u I'm sure Roz is scum. why? cuz he has insane luck and scum arent (mis)lynching him despite such a scummy asspull behavior for 2 full phases@Gruffin actually keep doing what ur doing, this might actually help me sort out Roz Vs Phraze. But I don't think my Kit or Cross scum slots will change any time soon [edit: also made Karote spotlights EoD2] - I saw Cross said it smwhere before the D2 panic. u said it too? guess that means u both have some plan going on~ jk |
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