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Sep 10, 2017 8:49 AM
#301
RE1031 said: yurkin said: Thanks~RE1031 said: yurkin said: Ruu said: Phraze said: AbuHumaid said: caught? I aint voted anyone there yet~ [edit: oh I alrdy did]Phraze said: oh, already caught scum?AbuHumaid said: I would like to think yes. the last one xDDo you guys think there's scum on Laat's early train? This exchange caught my attention. I will keep this in mind for later ~ Im interested to know what specifically catch you attention there ruu. @Ruu did you ever follow up on this? ruu's #257 Ruu said: Posts I like from Phraze (my town reads are not set in stone people, but for now, Phraze is a candidate for my town block) #63 #77 #78 #82 #95 She explains her reasons for voting Cross on rvs, she is always clear about the fact that for now she is focusing on pressure/sorting out people and not scum reading cause it's too early to give out reads (which makes sense cause we were on page 1/2). Re-reading I realized why she said "I'm not voting for anyone" . She didn't consider her vote on Cross as a real one since it was rvs and not based on an actual read. I might be wrong but that made sense when reading the exchange. It's not a solid case and it can't be since she was online for a couple of hours (page 1/2) but for now I'm not getting scum vibes. This could change ofc, after all she is my Romeo and we always end up lynching each other lol Okay, I see. Her early posts sounded rather contradictory and aggressive for no apparent reason, which gave me bad vibes. And then four townreads on her sprung up and regardless of the player, that is not natural by any means. I suspect scum to be among that pile (CP, Abu, you, and aa-dono), and right now, that is you. now see.. I like this post from you. We don't see eye to eye on this read, I'm cool with that. I do agree that someone on that list must be scum. Which ones where agressive or contradictory? can you point them out? I want to understand your reasoning. If you think I'm scum that fine, as long as you don't end up tunneling on me... Thoughts on Cross and yurkin? |
Sep 10, 2017 8:51 AM
#302
I'm in charge of lunch today so see you in a bit ~ |
Sep 10, 2017 9:02 AM
#304
Sep 10, 2017 9:07 AM
#305
CorruptedPurity said: Okay, so first off, CP, I need you to explain this to me. I've played with Abu as both alignments and my experience has been the exact opposite of yours.Can't reference other ongoing games but meta read is that abu is scum. Look at any past games where abu has played. His day 1 activity has a significant increase as scum compared to town. Not a surprise, scum is generally more fun and people will be more active when they have more fun. End of meta read. I played with AbuHumaid in Easter Egg Mafia and his Day 1 was extremely lurky. He was mafia. Then I played with him in the Micro game and he was active, pushy, and aggressive. He was town. You're going to need to substantiate this, because I don't understand where your meta read of him is coming from. |
Sep 10, 2017 9:07 AM
#306
lastwhisper31 said: Kit said: if it hasn't been answered already, then 15% ita is just a day vig shot with a 15% chance of hitting, and it's used on Mafia Universe. Don't recall if it's used anywhere elseroz1roz said: lastwhisper31 said: roz1roz said: can I help? And How do you feel about CPs vote?CorruptedPurity said: AbuHumaid said: Vote: CorruptedPurity Kurapika > Pitou I didn't get the pitou role... I'm going to riot. Lynch: Hosts Hey CP, carry me to win while I procrastinate. Just my honey and me! Looking that I already killed mod twice, once as town, once as mafia... I would say it's Nai probably. Also, what is a chance of hitting mod with 15% ita chance. What is the chance of mafia losing daychat afterwards. That was some high level tier mechanics. I don't think Mafia Society games really ever have the ability to actually lynch the hosts and host votes aren't ever serious. At least not that I've seen... Though Bur is from a different meta.. Regardless, this isn't a bastard game. what does "15% ita" mean? ITA as on in-thread-attack is used on other forums as well. Actually I meant totaly other site in the psot above. But that doesn't matter. No point in this discussion. |
Sep 10, 2017 9:08 AM
#307
Ruu said: RE1031 said: yurkin said: RE1031 said: yurkin said: Ruu said: Phraze said: AbuHumaid said: caught? I aint voted anyone there yet~ [edit: oh I alrdy did]Phraze said: oh, already caught scum?AbuHumaid said: I would like to think yes. the last one xDDo you guys think there's scum on Laat's early train? This exchange caught my attention. I will keep this in mind for later ~ Im interested to know what specifically catch you attention there ruu. @Ruu did you ever follow up on this? ruu's #257 Ruu said: Posts I like from Phraze (my town reads are not set in stone people, but for now, Phraze is a candidate for my town block) #63 #77 #78 #82 #95 She explains her reasons for voting Cross on rvs, she is always clear about the fact that for now she is focusing on pressure/sorting out people and not scum reading cause it's too early to give out reads (which makes sense cause we were on page 1/2). Re-reading I realized why she said "I'm not voting for anyone" . She didn't consider her vote on Cross as a real one since it was rvs and not based on an actual read. I might be wrong but that made sense when reading the exchange. It's not a solid case and it can't be since she was online for a couple of hours (page 1/2) but for now I'm not getting scum vibes. This could change ofc, after all she is my Romeo and we always end up lynching each other lol Okay, I see. Her early posts sounded rather contradictory and aggressive for no apparent reason, which gave me bad vibes. And then four townreads on her sprung up and regardless of the player, that is not natural by any means. I suspect scum to be among that pile (CP, Abu, you, and aa-dono), and right now, that is you. now see.. I like this post from you. We don't see eye to eye on this read, I'm cool with that. I do agree that someone on that list must be scum. Which ones where agressive or contradictory? can you point them out? I want to understand your reasoning. If you think I'm scum that fine, as long as you don't end up tunneling on me... Thoughts on Cross and yurkin? I don't like Cross's posts. There are so many questions in them that seem shallow, kind of pointless, and with no direction in mind, not a lot of pushes (only one I recall was to get CP more active). Could blame inactivity for this read, and quite possibly will change, but a scumlean for now. I like yurkin's posts. Well, recent posts, because I don't really remember the posts prior to the last 2-3 pages. I like that she agreed with me; in her #258, she doesn't just blindly agree, she adds on her own thoughts, and then pursues the read with her #260. There's nothing about her posts that gave me bad vibes to make me question my townread on her based on those two posts I linked. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 10, 2017 9:09 AM
#308
AbuHumaid said: If you're town, you don't want the mafia to nightkill you? You want to stay in the game for as long as possible if you're town?You're just looking at games that I happened to be scum in to prove your already weak arguments. Have we forgotten about Kaitou's Senkai game where I was town and claimed scum multiple times? I honestly act scummy on purpose so that the mafia team would leave me alone As town I play to get NK'd immediately so the fact that we have very different impressions on how to play town is striking to me. |
Sep 10, 2017 9:11 AM
#309
Crossbell said: CorruptedPurity said: Okay, so first off, CP, I need you to explain this to me. I've played with Abu as both alignments and my experience has been the exact opposite of yours.Can't reference other ongoing games but meta read is that abu is scum. Look at any past games where abu has played. His day 1 activity has a significant increase as scum compared to town. Not a surprise, scum is generally more fun and people will be more active when they have more fun. End of meta read. I played with AbuHumaid in Easter Egg Mafia and his Day 1 was extremely lurky. He was mafia. Then I played with him in the Micro game and he was active, pushy, and aggressive. He was town. You're going to need to substantiate this, because I don't understand where your meta read of him is coming from. Do you remember Abu in LWA? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 10, 2017 9:11 AM
#310
lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: it's not the statement but the tone, cause I see what RE is saying also. And I can say PR fishing is scummy when used he wrong way, and this may be a little bit of self meta, but if I'm mafia, I don't announce possible PRs, I just kill them.RE1031 said: RE1031 said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: I kind of skimmed... And my irl friends keep dragging me away... vote: Ruu A hunch. Which can basically be summed up as a tonal shift I don't recognize. Which isn't concrete at all, so maybe I'll come back to more~ (I'll be back) What's different in my tone and what makes you think that's a bad thing? Sorry if you already talk about this but I'm commenting while catching up. I haven't, don't worry. But now I have! Also, it's bad because I've seen a number of your town games, and I've also spectated (stalker style) on some games where you were scum, and right now, that tone you are using bears significantly more resemblance to your scum game over town. Ruu said: I'll steal this post. As scum, you are more possessive/dominant/controlling. I see this here in the bold. The first bolded part assumes dominance through diminishing someone's reads by claiming not to understand them. The second gives the impression the speaker wants to contribute, which is very misleading, not to mention just screams fake.roz1roz said: Ruu said: vote: Phraze I missed doing that, how are you dear? @Phraze <33 I also think there could be a vig but I don't think we should worry about it. If we do have one lets have some faith in them and hope they end up killing scum. Also the more we talk about pr, the more we'll help the mafia... Do you guys like your flavour? I didn't even know mine was a seinen lol a) Not could. Mechanicaly has to be more kpn or it's constructed strange otherwise. b) So you have girly girl anime? That sounds totaly like flavor wich mafia would have :p So there must be a vig or not according to you? I seriously didn't understand you lol but well let's not talk about pr. Like I said, discussing possible roles can only help scum. We need to be careful. I'm done loosing... I know it's a joke but why would you think that a "girly girl" anime is more scummy? Tbh I think mine is gender neutral lol Wow I'm a weirdo. I didn't uderstand the sentence, that's why I said "I didn't understand you". I'm not diminishing his read at all, I'm asking for further explaining so I can understand it better. What's fake about not wanting to talk pr? Wouldn't mafia be more than willing to talk about power roles? Knowing what you are up against can only be good for them and bad for us. Tbh I don't see anything wrong in talking about PRs, as long as it's theory, not searching for this PRs or forcing them to claim. |
Sep 10, 2017 9:15 AM
#311
Caught up in responding to posts wich are about me. Still around 2h till I can read and write more actively~ |
Sep 10, 2017 9:22 AM
#312
@Crossbell What are your current thoughts on Abu and CP? Because I don't know what to think of the questions you're asking them and the pressure you're putting on them. Abu and CP come off as unaligned to me based on CP's pressure on Abu. I know you are suspecting CP. But are you suspecting Abu? A lot of your read on CP is based on the fact that CP's read on Abu is "meta" which you are having trouble understanding, which is fair enough, but I don't really know where you stand on Abu. And it's confusing me because some of your posts sound like you are suspicious of Abu but all this question of CP's scumread on Abu makes it seem that you are townreading Abu? I don't understand where your going with your case. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 10, 2017 9:22 AM
#313
Kit said: I answered that for Gruffin already. And sure. Vote: Roz OK, cool. More votes is a good thing. There's something I'm looking for in your posts but I'll check back later to see if you did the thing. CP said: Mmmm, I wouldn't necessarily think that but I respect your vote and pressure on Abu.Ok. My meta read on abu was just a light jab. But the way he took it was legit scummy to me. He felt an urge to strongly defend a what he considered "weak" argument. If it's weak, why the strong reaction and need to defend? People would just see I'm up to nonsense and leave me be. Furthermore, I was the first and I think only person to suspect him, he was by no means a lynch target and even better, I never voted him. But he still felt compelled to defend himself. Gun to my head, I'd say abu is scum. Vote: Abu My view of the situation was that Abu felt the need to defend himself because he saw your meta reasoning as false, AND because you were the only one really online for him to interact with. I can see how you would read it as overdefensive, but given that you were the only one really online for Abu to interact with I'll play devil's advocate here and argue against your line of reasoning. |
Sep 10, 2017 9:24 AM
#314
@RE1031: I listed my thoughts on Abu vs CP above, but my vote on CP was more so that CP would Do Things as opposed to me actually believing he is scum. I'll post my full thoughts on Abu in a bit but I don't think he's scum at the moment. |
Sep 10, 2017 9:27 AM
#315
Gruffin said: Yeah. He was very lurky in that game. We ended up bussing him Day 1 which turned out to be a poor move in retrospect.What do you think of the CP x Abu face-off right now? I'm not very knowledgeable of Abu's meta, so I can't judge the credence of Purity's argument. You've played with scum!Abu before, right? CP said: ..Because you said that you wanted to try the "Bosses don't talk" strategy?Why would you want me to spur into action? I wanted to have a quiet game. If I go hyper, I'm blaming you I might be looking over some sarcasm, but that's why I wanted to spur you into action. And you did! |
Sep 10, 2017 9:29 AM
#316
Sep 10, 2017 9:36 AM
#317
RE1031 said: AbuHumaid said: @RE1031 can you come here and give your thoughts? I don't like how you posted once and dipped out, that's not your town self at all, not saying you're scum though. This post really annoyed me, but you're not wrong, so I can't blame you for saying this at all... But what are you trying to accomplish? If this isn't my town self, then why are you not saying I'm scum? 1. What annoyed you there exactly? 2. What is abu not wrong about that you agree with not being wrong? -him bringing up your scum meta, that apparently according to abu consint of dipping out? -him half calling you out half not "this is not your town self at all, not saying you're scum though" based on activity, subject he agreed previously of being nai? So which? |
Sep 10, 2017 9:40 AM
#318
Sep 10, 2017 9:41 AM
#319
yurkin said: RE1031 said: AbuHumaid said: @RE1031 can you come here and give your thoughts? I don't like how you posted once and dipped out, that's not your town self at all, not saying you're scum though. This post really annoyed me, but you're not wrong, so I can't blame you for saying this at all... But what are you trying to accomplish? If this isn't my town self, then why are you not saying I'm scum? 1. What annoyed you there exactly? 2. What is abu not wrong about that you agree with not being wrong? -him bringing up your scum meta, that apparently according to abu consint of dipping out? -him half calling you out half not "this is not your town self at all, not saying you're scum though" based on activity, subject he agreed previously of being nai? So which? I voted Ruu then didn't post for the rest of the night, so he isn't wrong in that I "posted once and dipped out." It annoyed me because he said this wasn't my town self, and then I was going to argue against that, and then he was right in that I usually post more. Basically, the first half of his statement made sense. Then I'm not sure what his read is on me if this isn't my townself yet he isn't saying I'm scum. It could just be he's wanting me to be more active, but I need clarification. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 10, 2017 9:45 AM
#320
aa-dono said: He was trying too hard to bait me but whatever, sth like that can come form either alignmentAbuHumaid said: Hnnnn~ then I'm interested in this too:aa-dono said: @AbuHumaid You still scumreading CP? I never said I'm scumreading him, my vote was RVS. I'll go to sleep for now and see where I should vote when I wake up CorruptedPurity said: AbuHumaid said: So CP is gonna vote me and dip out? Come here and fight me What you want? You think I'm scum? You're vote is already on me, congrats. Or do you think I'm confused town? |
Sep 10, 2017 9:45 AM
#321
Sep 10, 2017 9:57 AM
#322
Crossbell said: Cross' playstyle is sexy. LolAbuHumaid said: If you're town, you don't want the mafia to nightkill you? You want to stay in the game for as long as possible if you're town?You're just looking at games that I happened to be scum in to prove your already weak arguments. Have we forgotten about Kaitou's Senkai game where I was town and claimed scum multiple times? I honestly act scummy on purpose so that the mafia team would leave me alone As town I play to get NK'd immediately so the fact that we have very different impressions on how to play town is striking to me. |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 10, 2017 9:59 AM
#323
ruu #256 "1) I'm still not a fan of cross but i think that unvoting lw putting himself on the lead give him a couple of town points." Like - nope. Zero points. Why? Plurality lynch system + early on D1 where votes constantly shift = he being in lead does not remotely hurt cross. Don't get how u gave town points for such things. "the way people react to the tie didn't make me feel it was a t/t situation either. Specially because it didn't stay that way for long." Basically same as above. |
Sep 10, 2017 10:16 AM
#324
at a club meeting rn will be more around in a few hours |
Sep 10, 2017 10:25 AM
#325
Sep 10, 2017 10:26 AM
#327
heyhoo!!! i'm back :3 almost, but what is w/w w/v v/v?? :) well i think that Ruu's #290 is a forced post... she gives town points with things that are NAI (in my eyes ofc) her #282 seems legit though... i've only played with scum Ruu so far... any questions?? :) when i'm here i'll answer them :3 |
Sep 10, 2017 10:29 AM
#328
quotewall ------------- @Crossbell [#115] Why are you passing up an opportunity to advance the game by not voting? If you think Abu is scum, then vote him and make him talk. It's never "too early in the game" to not do this. I'm advancing the game well enough without my vote ty. besides, pressure on Abu is wasted while pressure on u is not. this is why I rvs Logic most of the time lol@RE1031 [#120] I kind of skimmed... And my irl friends keep dragging me away... vote: Ruu A hunch. Which can basically be summed up as a tonal shift I don't recognize. Which isn't concrete at all, so maybe I'll come back to more~ (I'll be back) [#283 to Ruu] Genuine when it's coming from a place with no insider knowledge. When there's no insider knowledge involved, there's usually a better explanation to townreads. At the time you made the read, I saw no reason to townread Phraze. So yes, I don't agree with it, but also, I don't see how you came to that conclusion. And holy fuck, why is everyone townreading Phraze. Abu's #96. From experience, that many townreads (aa-dono, Abu, Ruu, CP) on a single person that early in the game don't spring up naturally. [#297 to Ruu] Okay, I see. Her early posts sounded rather contradictory and aggressive for no apparent reason, which gave me bad vibes. And then four townreads on her sprung up and regardless of the player, that is not natural by any means. I suspect scum to be among that pile (CP, Abu, you, and aa-dono), and right now, that is you. if u feel I'm aggressive, why have u not questioned me yet? progression of this feels like ur trying to break down other's opinions on me, which are positive, rather than confronting me urself@CorruptedPurity [#125] Can't reference other ongoing games but meta read is that abu is scum. elaborate plsLook at any past games where abu has played. His day 1 activity has a significant increase as scum compared to town. Not a surprise, scum is generally more fun and people will be more active when they have more fun. End of meta read. @aa-dono [#160] Phraze for town~ <3 too scummy to be a maf tactic. and thanks for the compliments xDI'm a fan of your graphics, therefore I am town! Whoever against Phraze is scum. @AlbertinoDias [#279] so to answer this and say why this day and tomorrow will be kinda hard for me ;-; i hate this ;-; is because i'm going to university this year... and from 6 options i was accepted in the 6º... FOR 0.3 FREAKING POINTS... so yeah i'm really pissed -...- and i'm sorry for it... and my new nº in class is 11 i'm the 11º student... so i don't like the nº 11 -...- I see. salty reason. havent seen enough from u to figure yet |
Sep 10, 2017 10:30 AM
#329
lastwhisper31 said: pocketing?Crossbell said: Cross' playstyle is sexy. LolAbuHumaid said: You're just looking at games that I happened to be scum in to prove your already weak arguments. Have we forgotten about Kaitou's Senkai game where I was town and claimed scum multiple times? I honestly act scummy on purpose so that the mafia team would leave me alone As town I play to get NK'd immediately so the fact that we have very different impressions on how to play town is striking to me. |
Sep 10, 2017 10:36 AM
#330
AlbertinoDias said: I'll have to admit I think this is town!Ruu. she is more careful with her choice of words as town, and less 'airy' in her response. RE could be scumheyhoo!!! i'm back :3 almost, but what is w/w w/v v/v?? :) well i think that Ruu's #290 is a forced post... she gives town points with things that are NAI (in my eyes ofc) her #282 seems legit though... i've only played with scum Ruu so far... any questions?? :) when i'm here i'll answer them :3 |
Sep 10, 2017 10:43 AM
#331
AlbertinoDias said: w/w means wolf/wolf conversation, also known as s/s, which means the posts looks like two scum interacting. V/V means villager interactions, or T/T townie interactions, which means they both look like town. And W/V or S/T, means a conversation that gives the impression that one of them is scum and the other is town.heyhoo!!! i'm back :3 almost, but what is w/w w/v v/v?? :) well i think that Ruu's #290 is a forced post... she gives town points with things that are NAI (in my eyes ofc) her #282 seems legit though... i've only played with scum Ruu so far... any questions?? :) when i'm here i'll answer them :3 |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 10, 2017 10:46 AM
#332
Phraze said: idk did I say that I had any lean on him? I just like his way of thinking from the few posts I got from him. But this does explain why his posts look so agressivelastwhisper31 said: pocketing?Crossbell said: AbuHumaid said: If you're town, you don't want the mafia to nightkill you? You want to stay in the game for as long as possible if you're town?You're just looking at games that I happened to be scum in to prove your already weak arguments. Have we forgotten about Kaitou's Senkai game where I was town and claimed scum multiple times? I honestly act scummy on purpose so that the mafia team would leave me alone As town I play to get NK'd immediately so the fact that we have very different impressions on how to play town is striking to me. |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 10, 2017 10:50 AM
#333
Phraze said: sorry call this omgus, but ur wrong with ur opinion on Ruu's playstyle. And if RE is scum why not place ur vote there, what are you holding ur vote for? This is giving me senki mafia flashbacks where u got lynched because of ur bad reasoning for sheeping. So which is it here, are you town afraid of garnering reasons to get voted, or mafia afraid to place a reason cause you lack a strong case?AlbertinoDias said: I'll have to admit I think this is town!Ruu. she is more careful with her choice of words as town, and less 'airy' in her response. RE could be scumheyhoo!!! i'm back :3 almost, but what is w/w w/v v/v?? :) well i think that Ruu's #290 is a forced post... she gives town points with things that are NAI (in my eyes ofc) her #282 seems legit though... i've only played with scum Ruu so far... any questions?? :) when i'm here i'll answer them :3 |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 10, 2017 11:10 AM
#334
lastwhisper31 said: how many times u played with Ruu?Phraze said: sorry call this omgus, but ur wrong with ur opinion on Ruu's playstyle. And if RE is scum why not place ur vote there, what are you holding ur vote for? This is giving me senki mafia flashbacks where u got lynched because of ur bad reasoning for sheeping. So which is it here, are you town afraid of garnering reasons to get voted, or mafia afraid to place a reason cause you lack a strong case?AlbertinoDias said: heyhoo!!! i'm back :3 almost, but what is w/w w/v v/v?? :) well i think that Ruu's #290 is a forced post... she gives town points with things that are NAI (in my eyes ofc) her #282 seems legit though... i've only played with scum Ruu so far... any questions?? :) when i'm here i'll answer them :3 I didn't have bad reasons in Senki mafia. in fact, I was right. if u don't know guess u can now, I play differently from most. @Gruffin @Kit can vouch for that. just cuz I go against the flow doesn't make me wrong, or is that what ur hoping for? |
Sep 10, 2017 11:15 AM
#335
another thing, why should I vote someone I suspect just cuz I was talking to someone else? I have my own time to place my own vote. directing my vote isn't very protown yknow |
Sep 10, 2017 11:18 AM
#336
Phraze said: I mean if u get scum read in the end, its your and only your fault. But if your gunna talk about clearing someone with meta, then at least be correct. It ain't even about going against the grain, unless u played some game with Ruu that is the opposite of what I've seen everygame from here. I've played enough with her to say right now, this is farthest from her town style that I've seen in a while.lastwhisper31 said: how many times u played with Ruu?Phraze said: AlbertinoDias said: I'll have to admit I think this is town!Ruu. she is more careful with her choice of words as town, and less 'airy' in her response. RE could be scumheyhoo!!! i'm back :3 almost, but what is w/w w/v v/v?? :) well i think that Ruu's #290 is a forced post... she gives town points with things that are NAI (in my eyes ofc) her #282 seems legit though... i've only played with scum Ruu so far... any questions?? :) when i'm here i'll answer them :3 I didn't have bad reasons in Senki mafia. in fact, I was right. if u don't know guess u can now, I play differently from most. @Gruffin @Kit can vouch for that. just cuz I go against the flow doesn't make me wrong, or is that what ur hoping for? |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 10, 2017 11:20 AM
#337
Phraze said: it's pretty nai, there was a point where I thought like that, but I've seen it used by both sides.another thing, why should I vote someone I suspect just cuz I was talking to someone else? I have my own time to place my own vote. directing my vote isn't very protown yknow |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 10, 2017 11:57 AM
#338
Vote Count 1.5 Crossbell (3): Gruffin, Phraze, Ruu CorruptedPurity (2): AbuHumaid, Crossbell Gruffin (2): aa-dono, yurkin Ruu (2): RE1031, lastwhisper31 Lastwhisper31 (1): AlbertinoDias roz1roz (1): Kit AbuHumaid (1): CorruptedPurity AlbertinoDias (1): esgribunomirtlol Not Voting (3): Floofs, Oyasumi_Rosie, roz1roz >>Day 1 Timer<< |
Count to 30 -victories: Up to 30: 19 wins | Up to 60: 2 wins | Up to 90: 3 win | Up to 120: 1 win | Up to 150: 1 win | Up to 180: 0 wins | Up to 210: 1 win |
Sep 10, 2017 11:57 AM
#339
lastwhisper31 said: as I always say, this is about teamwork. passing the blame or faulting another townie is the reason u lose like someone ikPhraze said: I mean if u get scum read in the end, its your and only your fault. But if your gunna talk about clearing someone with meta, then at least be correct. It ain't even about going against the grain, unless u played some game with Ruu that is the opposite of what I've seen everygame from here. I've played enough with her to say right now, this is farthest from her town style that I've seen in a while.lastwhisper31 said: Phraze said: sorry call this omgus, but ur wrong with ur opinion on Ruu's playstyle. And if RE is scum why not place ur vote there, what are you holding ur vote for? This is giving me senki mafia flashbacks where u got lynched because of ur bad reasoning for sheeping. So which is it here, are you town afraid of garnering reasons to get voted, or mafia afraid to place a reason cause you lack a strong case?AlbertinoDias said: I'll have to admit I think this is town!Ruu. she is more careful with her choice of words as town, and less 'airy' in her response. RE could be scumheyhoo!!! i'm back :3 almost, but what is w/w w/v v/v?? :) well i think that Ruu's #290 is a forced post... she gives town points with things that are NAI (in my eyes ofc) her #282 seems legit though... i've only played with scum Ruu so far... any questions?? :) when i'm here i'll answer them :3 I didn't have bad reasons in Senki mafia. in fact, I was right. if u don't know guess u can now, I play differently from most. @Gruffin @Kit can vouch for that. just cuz I go against the flow doesn't make me wrong, or is that what ur hoping for? and yes I played with Ruu alot. I won't say anything if I had 0 exp with her to get some kind of impression. elaborate why Ruu's towngame isn't here pls |
Sep 10, 2017 11:58 AM
#340
lastwhisper31 said: hmmm and ur trying to make me out as scummy for NAI reasons. notedPhraze said: it's pretty nai, there was a point where I thought like that, but I've seen it used by both sides.another thing, why should I vote someone I suspect just cuz I was talking to someone else? I have my own time to place my own vote. directing my vote isn't very protown yknow |
Sep 10, 2017 12:24 PM
#341
Phraze said: Mafia is indeed a game that centers around teamwork, but there is a personality that each person owns and some may be more self centered, while others may just follow a long, and others who actively try to control the flow of the game. And I taking a page from Logic's book when I say the blame for a mislynch does not fall soley on the town or vice versa. But it's also unfair to say ur not at fault for the reasons people scum lean you. Ruu's town game is not here if I look soley at meta, town Ruu is more hyper active, more spontaneous, and more out there, and excited when she thinks she has found mafia. lastwhisper31 said: as I always say, this is about teamwork. passing the blame or faulting another townie is the reason u lose like someone ikPhraze said: lastwhisper31 said: how many times u played with Ruu?Phraze said: sorry call this omgus, but ur wrong with ur opinion on Ruu's playstyle. And if RE is scum why not place ur vote there, what are you holding ur vote for? This is giving me senki mafia flashbacks where u got lynched because of ur bad reasoning for sheeping. So which is it here, are you town afraid of garnering reasons to get voted, or mafia afraid to place a reason cause you lack a strong case?AlbertinoDias said: I'll have to admit I think this is town!Ruu. she is more careful with her choice of words as town, and less 'airy' in her response. RE could be scumheyhoo!!! i'm back :3 almost, but what is w/w w/v v/v?? :) well i think that Ruu's #290 is a forced post... she gives town points with things that are NAI (in my eyes ofc) her #282 seems legit though... i've only played with scum Ruu so far... any questions?? :) when i'm here i'll answer them :3 I didn't have bad reasons in Senki mafia. in fact, I was right. if u don't know guess u can now, I play differently from most. @Gruffin @Kit can vouch for that. just cuz I go against the flow doesn't make me wrong, or is that what ur hoping for? and yes I played with Ruu alot. I won't say anything if I had 0 exp with her to get some kind of impression. elaborate why Ruu's towngame isn't here pls Edit: accidently posted this early, so I had to fix it. |
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Sep 10, 2017 12:27 PM
#342
RE1031 said: Why did it annoy you? Truth hurts? x)AbuHumaid said: @RE1031 can you come here and give your thoughts? I don't like how you posted once and dipped out, that's not your town self at all, not saying you're scum though. This post really annoyed me, but you're not wrong, so I can't blame you for saying this at all... But what are you trying to accomplish? If this isn't my town self, then why are you not saying I'm scum? What I'm trying to accomplish is to get you more active, I remember you in the last game where we were scum buddies said that going offline as scum is your strategy but anyway, now that you made some posts I'll observe them and see what I can get out of them |
Sep 10, 2017 12:29 PM
#343
Phraze said: Again I never said you were scummy, and I'm not saying Ruu is 100% confirmed scum either. But if we gunna lean her based on meta game then we have widely different opinions of town Ruu.lastwhisper31 said: hmmm and ur trying to make me out as scummy for NAI reasons. notedPhraze said: another thing, why should I vote someone I suspect just cuz I was talking to someone else? I have my own time to place my own vote. directing my vote isn't very protown yknow |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 10, 2017 12:42 PM
#345
lastwhisper31 said: then maf always win by default. if say..4 scum are saying ur scum, does that make it ur fault? nope. this is a game of teamwork. just cuz someone acts scummy doesn't make them scum, nor is it their fault. scum will exaggerate scummy behavior until it SEEMS to be a fault. this kind of mentality is promafia.Phraze said: Mafia is indeed a game that centers around teamwork, but there is a personality that each person owns and some may be more self centered, while others may just follow a long, and others who actively try to control the flow of the game. And I taking a page from Logic's book when I say the blame for a mislynch does not fall soley on the town or vice versa. But it's also unfair to say ur not at fault for the reasons people scum lean you. Ruu's town game is not here if I look soley at meta, town Ruu is more hyper active, more spontaneous, and more out there, and excited when she thinks she has found mafia. lastwhisper31 said: Phraze said: I mean if u get scum read in the end, its your and only your fault. But if your gunna talk about clearing someone with meta, then at least be correct. It ain't even about going against the grain, unless u played some game with Ruu that is the opposite of what I've seen everygame from here. I've played enough with her to say right now, this is farthest from her town style that I've seen in a while.lastwhisper31 said: how many times u played with Ruu?Phraze said: sorry call this omgus, but ur wrong with ur opinion on Ruu's playstyle. And if RE is scum why not place ur vote there, what are you holding ur vote for? This is giving me senki mafia flashbacks where u got lynched because of ur bad reasoning for sheeping. So which is it here, are you town afraid of garnering reasons to get voted, or mafia afraid to place a reason cause you lack a strong case?AlbertinoDias said: I'll have to admit I think this is town!Ruu. she is more careful with her choice of words as town, and less 'airy' in her response. RE could be scumheyhoo!!! i'm back :3 almost, but what is w/w w/v v/v?? :) well i think that Ruu's #290 is a forced post... she gives town points with things that are NAI (in my eyes ofc) her #282 seems legit though... i've only played with scum Ruu so far... any questions?? :) when i'm here i'll answer them :3 I didn't have bad reasons in Senki mafia. in fact, I was right. if u don't know guess u can now, I play differently from most. @Gruffin @Kit can vouch for that. just cuz I go against the flow doesn't make me wrong, or is that what ur hoping for? and yes I played with Ruu alot. I won't say anything if I had 0 exp with her to get some kind of impression. elaborate why Ruu's towngame isn't here pls Edit: accidently posted this early, so I had to fix it. and ok. I beg to differ. I've seen hyper Ruu as scum before |
Sep 10, 2017 12:44 PM
#346
lastwhisper31 said: hmmm not rly. I've seen scum!Ruu as a pushy player. town!Ruu was more careful with her words, since it could be easily used against her. maybe she acts differently around u <3Phraze said: Again I never said you were scummy, and I'm not saying Ruu is 100% confirmed scum either. But if we gunna lean her based on meta game then we have widely different opinions of town Ruu.lastwhisper31 said: Phraze said: it's pretty nai, there was a point where I thought like that, but I've seen it used by both sides.another thing, why should I vote someone I suspect just cuz I was talking to someone else? I have my own time to place my own vote. directing my vote isn't very protown yknow |
Sep 10, 2017 12:48 PM
#347
Phraze said: ok u think that, but good think u posted an unrealistic day 1 end, the possibility of all 4 mafia being on day 1s train is so slim. just cuz someone acts scummy doesn't make them scum, nor is it their fault. lol please reread this, and how bout don't do scummy things that mafia can abuse, and town sees those scum tells also. Again I didn't say it was the sole fault of anyone, but if ur gunna go around doing things that come off scummy for no possible purpose then yes it's ur fault for clouding our view of you.lastwhisper31 said: then maf always win by default. if say..4 scum are saying ur scum, does that make it ur fault? nope. this is a game of teamwork. just cuz someone acts scummy doesn't make them scum, nor is it their fault. scum will exaggerate scummy behavior until it SEEMS to be a fault. this kind of mentality is promafia.Phraze said: lastwhisper31 said: as I always say, this is about teamwork. passing the blame or faulting another townie is the reason u lose like someone ikPhraze said: I mean if u get scum read in the end, its your and only your fault. But if your gunna talk about clearing someone with meta, then at least be correct. It ain't even about going against the grain, unless u played some game with Ruu that is the opposite of what I've seen everygame from here. I've played enough with her to say right now, this is farthest from her town style that I've seen in a while.lastwhisper31 said: how many times u played with Ruu?Phraze said: sorry call this omgus, but ur wrong with ur opinion on Ruu's playstyle. And if RE is scum why not place ur vote there, what are you holding ur vote for? This is giving me senki mafia flashbacks where u got lynched because of ur bad reasoning for sheeping. So which is it here, are you town afraid of garnering reasons to get voted, or mafia afraid to place a reason cause you lack a strong case?AlbertinoDias said: I'll have to admit I think this is town!Ruu. she is more careful with her choice of words as town, and less 'airy' in her response. RE could be scumheyhoo!!! i'm back :3 almost, but what is w/w w/v v/v?? :) well i think that Ruu's #290 is a forced post... she gives town points with things that are NAI (in my eyes ofc) her #282 seems legit though... i've only played with scum Ruu so far... any questions?? :) when i'm here i'll answer them :3 I didn't have bad reasons in Senki mafia. in fact, I was right. if u don't know guess u can now, I play differently from most. @Gruffin @Kit can vouch for that. just cuz I go against the flow doesn't make me wrong, or is that what ur hoping for? and yes I played with Ruu alot. I won't say anything if I had 0 exp with her to get some kind of impression. elaborate why Ruu's towngame isn't here pls Edit: accidently posted this early, so I had to fix it. and ok. I beg to differ. I've seen hyper Ruu as scum before |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 10, 2017 12:50 PM
#348
Phraze said: @RE1031 [#120] I kind of skimmed... And my irl friends keep dragging me away... vote: Ruu A hunch. Which can basically be summed up as a tonal shift I don't recognize. Which isn't concrete at all, so maybe I'll come back to more~ (I'll be back) [#283 to Ruu] Genuine when it's coming from a place with no insider knowledge. When there's no insider knowledge involved, there's usually a better explanation to townreads. At the time you made the read, I saw no reason to townread Phraze. So yes, I don't agree with it, but also, I don't see how you came to that conclusion. And holy fuck, why is everyone townreading Phraze. Abu's #96. From experience, that many townreads (aa-dono, Abu, Ruu, CP) on a single person that early in the game don't spring up naturally. [#297 to Ruu] Okay, I see. Her early posts sounded rather contradictory and aggressive for no apparent reason, which gave me bad vibes. And then four townreads on her sprung up and regardless of the player, that is not natural by any means. I suspect scum to be among that pile (CP, Abu, you, and aa-dono), and right now, that is you. if u feel I'm aggressive, why have u not questioned me yet? progression of this feels like ur trying to break down other's opinions on me, which are positive, rather than confronting me urselfI haven't confronted you because my tell on Ruu was a lot stronger, and I could attribute the aggressiveness to an unfamiliar playstyle. And I am, or at least I'm trying to understand why they are townreading you, because regardless if you are town or not, I don't think you did anything worth being townread over. But you're right, I'll confront you now. Your posts are needlessly aggressive: Phraze said: Was there any point in commenting on this? Did it tell you about roz's alignment?roz1roz said: didnt know ur into mechanics12 vs 4 is rather scumsided, also suggests that there is possibility of over 1 kpn cause both are even. So... vig confirmed in game, probably 1/3-shot. Edit: Typo Phraze said: So what? Abu's read on CP is wild for sure, but definitely not worth grouping with every other early read.AbuHumaid said: early townread is bsCorruptedPurity said: AbuHumaid said: Vote: CorruptedPurity Kurapika > Pitou I didn't get the pitou role... I'm going to riot. Lynch: Hosts I town read you for that Phraze said: Again, aggressive. I'm not seeing where it's coming from.Crossbell said: too early in the game. getting defensive? seems to be since my vote is on u atmPhraze said: early townread is bs Phraze said: [insert Abu's reply]Kit said: isn't it too early to get actual reads?Gruffin said: Kit said: Ohh I forgot about that. Must be. :3cHe changed his avatar, so he's definitely scum, right? :3c Do you have any opinions on the game so far? Phraze said: I'm starting to think that this is playstyle difference. Calling something BS isn't going to do anything but harm if you can't actually make a specific argument against the statement. It doesn't make sense to me why you are eager to dismiss people's reads for the timing rather than the content. Like, heck, I will support you in pressuring Crossbell (although I'm a teensy bit wanting to go after/lynch Ruu more), even thought your read/lean on him came on the second page, which I'd say is pretty early.AbuHumaid said: we can pressure, but not scumread. there's a difference. scumreads out of the blue is bsPhraze said: Kit said: isn't it too early to get actual reads?Gruffin said: Yeah. So far I'm slight town leaning you and Ruu, and slight scum leaning Roz and Phraze. Kit said: Ohh I forgot about that. Must be. :3cHe changed his avatar, so he's definitely scum, right? :3c Do you have any opinions on the game so far? Phraze said: This is the second time you've asked that question. What are you hoping to accomplish from it? Also, what is your definition of "early"?AbuHumaid said: ok. are u easy to pocket?Phraze said: AbuHumaid said: we can pressure, but not scumread. there's a difference. scumreads out of the blue is bsPhraze said: if we keep saying "it's too early" we will never accomplish anythingKit said: isn't it too early to get actual reads?Gruffin said: Yeah. So far I'm slight town leaning you and Ruu, and slight scum leaning Roz and Phraze. Kit said: Ohh I forgot about that. Must be. :3cHe changed his avatar, so he's definitely scum, right? :3c Do you have any opinions on the game so far? *cut out extra quotes* |
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Sep 10, 2017 12:51 PM
#349
RE1031 said: I like you for pointing that out, yeah I was town reading Phraze and she was doing the same, what makes my read a pocket attempt but hers not?Ruu said: *HUGE FUCKING GASP*aa-dono said: Ruu said: Oro? Another person liking Phraze. When you're back, could you give thoughts on the tie?unvote I like Phraze's posts so far. vote: Crossbell I know it's early but creating a tie is never a bad idea (unless it's EoD duh!). Hopefully this will give us nice reads... I'll be honest with you dono, I see the way you aproach Phraze and everyone town readig her as an attempt to pocket her.. that's the impression I get from your posts and I don't like it. Anyways, about your question about the tie: 1) I'm still not a fan of Cross but I think that unvoting lw puting himself on the lead gave him a couple of town points. 2) The way people react to the tie didn't make me feel it was a t/t situation either. Specially because it didn't stay that way for long. This is all I have for now, it's not much but well... the tie didn't last long either. Do you agree, disagree or can you add something else? @yurkin @Floofs @AlbertinoDias @AbuHumaid Did I not do the same thing with Amai and AlbertinoDias in Little Witch Academia? I was townreading Dias, Amai was townreading Dias, everyone was, but I decided to claim that Amai's read on Dias was a pocketing attempt. @Ruu Quote specific posts where aa is trying to pocket Phraze. Right now, it seems to me you and aa-dono are townreading Phraze for no specific reason, yet somehow aa-dono is trying pocket Phraze and you are not? Also, CP decided to townread Phraze: CorruptedPurity said: Why isn't he trying to pocket Phraze?I like phraze's activity and initiatives, I see good town motivation from her posts. Town lean |
Sep 10, 2017 12:51 PM
#350
Phraze said: The only time I've seen Ruu push as scum is when I was her scum buddy, and she bussed me to the ends of the Earth.lastwhisper31 said: hmmm not rly. I've seen scum!Ruu as a pushy player. town!Ruu was more careful with her words, since it could be easily used against her. maybe she acts differently around u <3Phraze said: lastwhisper31 said: hmmm and ur trying to make me out as scummy for NAI reasons. notedPhraze said: it's pretty nai, there was a point where I thought like that, but I've seen it used by both sides.another thing, why should I vote someone I suspect just cuz I was talking to someone else? I have my own time to place my own vote. directing my vote isn't very protown yknow |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
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