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Aug 11, 2017 6:40 PM
#401
Ruu said: Very headstrong on the only possibility being that he must be mafiaAbuHumaid said: Ruu said: AbuHumaid said: Ruu said: it could be an ignorant townie mistake but i don't think soNow I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. vote change: roz1roz sorry man. But that's how the game works. You need to dm the host if you have questions. I found the second mafia guys. Jumping on the train to not look suspicious. Where is everyone btw? how can that be a possibility? One of the main rules of mafia is that the mafia has their own private club. How could town get access to it? makes no sense... |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:42 PM
#402
Ruu said: Nikamara said: Lemme leave this quick breakdown with what makes me suspect those 4: roz1roz - Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? ^seems like scum slip up. and most of the time, the simplest answer is the best answer. I'm not buying this bait business AbuHumaid – Hi everyone vote: coromandel Fight me ^seems gung ho about lynching. it could be an ignorant townie mistake but i don't think so ^seems like he is defending the scum slip RE1031 - We could lynch them today, or we could save him for the vig shot. I think either way works. ^seems like he wants to save scum mate from lynching Suzune-chan ^just seems like he is defending the scum slip as well do you still feel the same way? Also the fact that I'm on on that list means you are townreading me? I can't be neutral since I was part of the exchange with all your suspects. still reading but up to this point I generally feel the same way but now find RE1031 more suspicious than Abu and Suzune chan seems less suspicious so depending on how the game unfolds they might drop off the suspect list. |
Aug 11, 2017 6:44 PM
#403
Nikamara said: Ruu said: Nikamara said: Lemme leave this quick breakdown with what makes me suspect those 4: roz1roz - Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? ^seems like scum slip up. and most of the time, the simplest answer is the best answer. I'm not buying this bait business AbuHumaid – Hi everyone vote: coromandel Fight me ^seems gung ho about lynching. it could be an ignorant townie mistake but i don't think so ^seems like he is defending the scum slip RE1031 - We could lynch them today, or we could save him for the vig shot. I think either way works. ^seems like he wants to save scum mate from lynching Suzune-chan ^just seems like he is defending the scum slip as well do you still feel the same way? Also the fact that I'm on on that list means you are townreading me? I can't be neutral since I was part of the exchange with all your suspects. still reading but up to this point I generally feel the same way but now find RE1031 more suspicious than Abu and Suzune chan seems less suspicious so depending on how the game unfolds they might drop off the suspect list. Please back up your reads. |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:45 PM
#404
Unofficial Vote Count 1.5: roz1roz (2): AbuHumaid, Nikamara aa-dono (2): yurkin, Togs yurkin (2): Ruu, logic340 logic340 (1): aa-dono coromandel (1): RE1031 Suzune-chan (1): coromandel Ruu (1): Suzune-chan AbuHumaid (1): roz1roz Players not voting: (Labs, lastwhisper31) |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:46 PM
#405
catching up now, but can you guys refrain from calling me "low hanging fruit" or "easy lynch"? I hate being underestimated, God if i was scum i would have won already with all this underestimation. |
Aug 11, 2017 6:48 PM
#406
lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: Now I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. vote change: roz1roz sorry man. But that's how the game works. You need to dm the host if you have questions. Seems kinda counter productive to the town mindset, to think a guy/girl with 50/100 games off site would make a mistake as fatal as this, and I cant really tell what you were thinking when you wrote this post, I mean I was new to mafia games in general when I joined this club, and even I didnt make a mistake like this (I did throw a game by accident, welp), so why was ur first assumption that it was a mistake and he must be scum, when other possibilities existed, which by how quickly you posted, doesnt really seem like you looked into them. I already explained this. You will find my reasons after you read the thread. Also I didn't remember that he had experience, I just saw that he had 8 post and went for the "he must be a newbie" idea. |
Aug 11, 2017 6:49 PM
#407
AbuHumaid said: + points for town Abucatching up now, but can you guys refrain from calling me "low hanging fruit" or "easy lynch"? I hate being underestimated, God if i was scum i would have won already with all this underestimation. |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:51 PM
#408
Suzune-chan said: +1, and if mafia didnt already think about this, then they now know. Ruu said: This post though is all over the place and comes off more as fear mongering as Ruu suggests horrible potentials rather then trying to regroup the town.RE1031 said: Ruu said: Now I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. Probably, I always forget to check club invites and there's no notification for it. This is such a weird slip up though... We could lynch them today, or we could save him for the vig shot. I think either way works. we could do that but better to start with a mafia lynch than a mislynch right? also what if the roleblocker ends up rb the vig? I don't want that possibility to happen. |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:51 PM
#409
+1 for being the first person to question it. |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:52 PM
#410
Nikamara said: I can understand Suzune-chan but why Abu? My read on him is very unique and tends to go against the consensus what are you seeing that makes you less suspicious of him?Ruu said: Nikamara said: Lemme leave this quick breakdown with what makes me suspect those 4: roz1roz - Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? ^seems like scum slip up. and most of the time, the simplest answer is the best answer. I'm not buying this bait business AbuHumaid – Hi everyone vote: coromandel Fight me ^seems gung ho about lynching. it could be an ignorant townie mistake but i don't think so ^seems like he is defending the scum slip RE1031 - We could lynch them today, or we could save him for the vig shot. I think either way works. ^seems like he wants to save scum mate from lynching Suzune-chan ^just seems like he is defending the scum slip as well do you still feel the same way? Also the fact that I'm on on that list means you are townreading me? I can't be neutral since I was part of the exchange with all your suspects. still reading but up to this point I generally feel the same way but now find RE1031 more suspicious than Abu and Suzune chan seems less suspicious so depending on how the game unfolds they might drop off the suspect list. |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:53 PM
#411
lastwhisper31 said: After you catch up I want a read on yurkin first please.+1 for being the first person to question it. |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:55 PM
#412
Suzune-chan said: Didnt someone also state that MAL, in terms of mafia skills as a whole are lacking? Not saying it was you, then I guess we are really below the threshold.RE1031 said: I don't think they play many games on mal? Perhaps that is the reason.yurkin said: abu's #50 According to the sign-up thread rozs not a newbie though. "50 to 100 games" You're right. Okay this is weird. How does someone make this kind of mistake? |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:57 PM
#413
I never want to ISO someone again, I forget how long it actually takes and I did not glean as much interest as I had hoped I would get from this...I kind of thought this one would just hit me, but there was not much there and yes I talked about myself in third person. Suzune’s Case Against RE1031 Probably, I always forget to check club invites and there's no notification for it. This is such a weird slip up though... We could lynch them today, or we could save him for the vig shot. I think either way works. I might have given RE too much credit in my initial reading of the topic because I was really focused on Ruu and not the other people because this comment is really interesting. It could be read two ways, the first is that it is not worth lynching them let the vig do it the second is let’s just do it. This is a split way of looking at it if you think he is scum you would get rid of scum right away rather than sit on it because the vig could then be better used later. It also tells everyone what kind of night action the vig is going to take and that is just bad for business. I hope it is bait, just not the reverse psychology bait where he is scum and after he "reads" our reactions he drops off the radar because we'd think scum wouldn't do that. actually there was an interesting back and forth going on here. On page one it looks like you were sure that they were scum and wanted them to be lynched or vigged. On this page though, you have worked yourself back around to it must be bait. Which if you read the earlier posts, you were still on the must be scum thought process about how the day will be boring now. What changed you mind? Or are you using [url=Until yurkin pointed it out, I think all of us thought he was a newbie. Slips happen. It happened in The Morning After with MrSkittles (although to a much lesser degree).]this post[/url] as the complete change? Otherwise, it kind of looks like you are covering for Ruu/Abu/and myself.It is at this point, where you kind of drop off a bit. You become a little bit lighter you push against logic but not really for any sort of reason. You keep up pretty steadfast that it was not scummy for us to vote roz. We hit kind of a stride where you read people and put them into lists that we then fight over. But very little is said about you personally or where you stand. You never say what you think the initial reactions mean or how you used them so it just becomes something that RE did to look busy and fill time. This is where we get into the part where Suzune started to suspect RE a little Shit. coro's response is scummy as hell. Why does she vote suzune while simultaneously questioning which mafia role roz is? vote: coromandel This vote seemed to come out of left field. I was actually going to comment on it right away but was posting about something else and it got lost. I tried to hit at it later in a weak sad attempt when logic commented on the back and forth between RE and Coro, but Logic thought all was good and I was wavering. Which forces her to choose information from only the opening posts about why Coro is scummy Because you already had a suspect in mind (roz) yet you voted for Suzune. Either you didn't take roz's 'slip' seriously - which is scummy, or you did but didn't vote him. Why did you vote Suzune, I can't remember if you've explained. Which left me thinking that this was quite strange. As we know that RE took the ‘slip’ seriously I don’t think that Coro not taking it seriously is really an reason to doubt it. Okay, that was pretty much my reaction too. What do you make of the bait now? Which is coupled by the weirdness of this following post where RE agrees to what Coro said but leaves the vote there even though her reason for voting just melted and she agreed to it.This conversation seems to prompt the making of a new list to explain the old one. This one at least has a little context on where they are coming from based on her opinions about how initial reactions happened and what to make of them. Which ends us at the most confusing ping pong match, where RE dislikes Ruu’s read but not Ruu herself. Which causes a back and forth that is mostly Ruu saying, I mean it for this reason. And RE being like that is not what I am saying. Honestly this whole exchange is NAI. I get it, she townreads Ruu but dislikes her reads, simple enough. Quick Notes Honestly RE is just extraordinarily flat. -Initially it was RE who planted the idea about the Vig -It was also RE who was the first to flip from probably scum to probably bait -Later she becomes for defensive for those who voted Roz -Makes a complicated list that we waste time debating - Gets fired up about Coro but then backs all the way down - Townreads ruu but does not like her reads. - Now we got general talking again. Overall: Re is not particularly suspicious, she is just not really doing very much. The fact that the initial vig comment came from her is surprising, I also find her exchange with logic to be quite tense, I dislike that the initial fire for Coro burns out quickly, and then there has not really been much from her. With regards to the few swift changes and the kidn of juggling of opinions. She is neither overly friendly nor aggressive. I would say she has found a place where she can kind of drift. Which is probably the most concerning part of all. I would probably not rush out an lynch this spot, but it would need to do something more to improve it’s standing if it wanted to make it to late game, because right now. I would place it null leaning a little but on slightscum. It was less exciting then I hoped because there was not much there on back read. Just busy work and a few heated exchanges. Edit: added the rest of RE's numbers |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:57 PM
#414
yurkin said: BBCode is pretty universal among forums, maybe he was hoping someone would notice this little hint.roz1roz said: the underlined tells this is not post by a mistake imo. So what is roz trying to achieve...Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:59 PM
#415
lastwhisper31 said: Yeah Doughkey said that. I think it is just different not particularly low.Suzune-chan said: Didnt someone also state that MAL, in terms of mafia skills as a whole are lacking? Not saying it was you, then I guess we are really below the threshold.RE1031 said: yurkin said: abu's #50 According to the sign-up thread rozs not a newbie though. "50 to 100 games" You're right. Okay this is weird. How does someone make this kind of mistake? |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:59 PM
#416
logic340 said: AbuHumaid said: + points for town Abucatching up now, but can you guys refrain from calling me "low hanging fruit" or "easy lynch"? I hate being underestimated, God if i was scum i would have won already with all this underestimation. lol this is NAI logic, come on! I would be frustrated too no matter my alignment |
Aug 11, 2017 7:00 PM
#417
logic340 said: Second post since you joined in, and this is what you quote? His rvs on me because he town reads me everytime im scum? You really dont like rvs do you.hm....no reasons for RVS....noted. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:01 PM
#418
Ruu said: It's more than just that but it's there for us both to come back to later. logic340 said: AbuHumaid said: catching up now, but can you guys refrain from calling me "low hanging fruit" or "easy lynch"? I hate being underestimated, God if i was scum i would have won already with all this underestimation. lol this is NAI logic, come on! I would be frustrated too no matter my alignment |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:01 PM
#419
Why you keep quoting rvs votes? and how could you possibly ignore the most important post at the time, with not one word? or did i miss it? |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:05 PM
#420
roz1roz said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: yurkin said: abu's #50 According to the sign-up thread rozs not a newbie though. "50 to 100 games" You're right. Okay this is weird. How does someone make this kind of mistake? there is no jester in the game so it can't be on purpose. Unless... it's a gambit. Hello again ladies and gentelman. Thanks for creating material for analysis. I actually feel bad for playing newbie card to create (obvious) bait. Honestly speaking I should break the discussion around the post quoted above, cause later on it could go dangerous for me and scum wouldn't take a bait anymore afterwards anyway. I didn't. Why? Well, I actualy was surprised that Suzune-chan took the bait. I was even more surprised they actualy pushed it even after noticing there is something wrong here. I literaly wanted to see 2-3 more posts from them. Now as to analysis - mafia tendency would be either hardly push a misslynch with any arguments they can find OR defend to get town cred (since they obviously knew that this is false one). Sk can't really be detected here, as they didn't know if I'm mafia or not, so they would look simlar to a town. Wich player would be more likely to play one of this ways? Wich is more agresive in style and wich is more likely to build town cred to build "quite wolf". I will hide behind a newbie card here and say that you know each other better then I do. On the other side, you gave me material for analysis. Thanks for taking a bait. brootal |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:07 PM
#421
Ruu said: I mean its not like hes expecting you to pocket him? logic340 said: RE1031 said: Ruu said: Now I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. Probably, I always forget to check club invites and there's no notification for it. This is such a weird slip up though... We could lynch them today, or we could save him for the vig shot. I think either way works. I am on the opposite side, I think it's a bait. bait? that's weird. I mean if it is, is a very anti-town aproach cause now they are waisting our time and you can't get a lot from it because town and mafia would vote them for the same reasons so they can't be blame for it. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:10 PM
#422
yurkin said: roz1roz said: the underlined tells this is not post by a mistake imo. So what is roz trying to achieve...Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? 1. NAI RVS vote, there will be something telling about this but it isn't reveling itself now. 2. NAI really doesn't help us catch scum. 3. I liked this too but that in itself isn't enough to say it comes from town. yurkin said: logic340 said: So this is not a mafia play in my opinion but I could be TPR motivated. @roz1roz I change what I said I like you for uninformed party. Oh, such follow up, after at first you too easily said hes post regarding the bait's purpose is comming from town. edit: typo 1. Calling logic out for what exactly? This is a busy post and nothing else as she doesn't follow up. 2. NAI yurkin said: @suzune-chan #146 "they were really on the fence during the exchange and came off as more confussed and did not respond directly really based on positioning" -were exactly was i confussed? and on the fence suzune? 1. So while yurking was not confused, I would say that her position during the whole thing could be termed fence sitty considering that her only contribution to it was saying that it wasn't likely a gambit due to reading the sign-up thread and calling logic out for who knows what? |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:10 PM
#423
Ruu said: Suzune-chan said: Great, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu this is the @logic340 incident all over again -____- Gunna place my vote on Ruu for now, vote: Ruu Very forceful with her reasoning for voting the new guy, also its good to note that I think she was the first one to bring him the idea that this couldnt possibly be a bait. Very telling. Gunna continue rereading. |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Aug 11, 2017 7:11 PM
#424
Suzune-chan said: +1, so eager, and so jumpyRuu said: You created this one by accepting so fast, rolling the blame onto Abu, then worrying about the worst case scenario, and then asked me about my opinion regarding it. The build up here was most interesting. Suzune-chan said: Great, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu this is the @logic340 incident all over again -____- |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:13 PM
#425
lastwhisper31 said: Dude this is logic you are talking about here.Why you keep quoting rvs votes? and how could you possibly ignore the most important post at the time, with not one word? or did i miss it |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:16 PM
#426
logic340 said: I understand your eager for me to read the post on yurkin, just to clarify. Did you list them all, or some? Cause if your being nitpicky, then that feels more scummy, as your telling people what to look at, I will def look at his posts on my own, and will give you my conclusion when im finished. Everytime I read a page I jump to the last page, which is why Im answering posts from two different spots.yurkin said: roz1roz said: Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? 1. NAI RVS vote, there will be something telling about this but it isn't reveling itself now. 2. NAI really doesn't help us catch scum. 3. I liked this too but that in itself isn't enough to say it comes from town. yurkin said: logic340 said: So this is not a mafia play in my opinion but I could be TPR motivated. @roz1roz I change what I said I like you for uninformed party. Oh, such follow up, after at first you too easily said hes post regarding the bait's purpose is comming from town. edit: typo 1. Calling logic out for what exactly? This is a busy post and nothing else as she doesn't follow up. 2. NAI yurkin said: @suzune-chan #146 "they were really on the fence during the exchange and came off as more confussed and did not respond directly really based on positioning" -were exactly was i confussed? and on the fence suzune? 1. So while yurking was not confused, I would say that her position during the whole thing could be termed fence sitty considering that her only contribution to it was saying that it wasn't likely a gambit due to reading the sign-up thread and calling logic out for who knows what? |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:18 PM
#427
Suzune-chan said: Probably, I always forget to check club invites and there's no notification for it. This is such a weird slip up though... We could lynch them today, or we could save him for the vig shot. I think either way works. I might have given RE too much credit in my initial reading of the topic because I was really focused on Ruu and not the other people because this comment is really interesting. It could be read two ways, the first is that it is not worth lynching them let the vig do it the second is let’s just do it. This is a split way of looking at it if you think he is scum you would get rid of scum right away rather than sit on it because the vig could then be better used later. It also tells everyone what kind of night action the vig is going to take and that is just bad for business. Why is it bad for business? We only have roleblockers and a doctor in this game - as long as the vig's identity is hidden, and the doctor doesn't protect scum, then there is hardly anything to stop a shot. And I've already elaborated on the benefit of the vig taking him out instead of a lynch - it's the equivalent of a no lynch if we get rid of someone who is caught scum based on a slip and not behavior. I hope it is bait, just not the reverse psychology bait where he is scum and after he "reads" our reactions he drops off the radar because we'd think scum wouldn't do that. actually there was an interesting back and forth going on here. On page one it looks like you were sure that they were scum and wanted them to be lynched or vigged. On this page though, you have worked yourself back around to it must be bait. Which if you read the earlier posts, you were still on the must be scum thought process about how the day will be boring now. What changed you mind? Or are you using [url=Until yurkin pointed it out, I think all of us thought he was a newbie. Slips happen. It happened in The Morning After with MrSkittles (although to a much lesser degree).]this post[/url] as the complete change? Otherwise, it kind of looks like you are covering for Ruu/Abu/and myself.How about now? Am I still covering for Abu? (rhetorical question, answer is no.) My reads on Abu and Ruu are no longer based on that one incident but the things that followed. It is at this point, where you kind of drop off a bit. You become a little bit lighter you push against logic but not really for any sort of reason. You keep up pretty steadfast that it was not scummy for us to vote roz. We hit kind of a stride where you read people and put them into lists that we then fight over. But very little is said about you personally or where you stand. You never say what you think the initial reactions mean or how you used them so it just becomes something that RE did to look busy and fill time. I need you to link posts where I do these things, because I'm not sure how you reached these conclusions. This is where we get into the part where Suzune started to suspect RE a little Shit. coro's response is scummy as hell. Why does she vote suzune while simultaneously questioning which mafia role roz is? vote: coromandel This vote seemed to come out of left field. I was actually going to comment on it right away but was posting about something else and it got lost. I tried to hit at it later in a weak sad attempt when logic commented on the back and forth between RE and Coro, but Logic thought all was good and I was wavering. Which forces her to choose information from only the opening posts about why Coro is scummy Because you already had a suspect in mind (roz) yet you voted for Suzune. Either you didn't take roz's 'slip' seriously - which is scummy, or you did but didn't vote him. Why did you vote Suzune, I can't remember if you've explained. Which left me thinking that this was quite strange. As we know that RE took the ‘slip’ seriously I don’t think that Coro not taking it seriously is really an reason to doubt it. Okay, that was pretty much my reaction too. What do you make of the bait now? Which is coupled by the weirdness of this following post where RE agrees to what Coro said but leaves the vote there even though her reason for voting just melted and she agreed to it.This conversation seems to prompt the making of a new list to explain the old one. This one at least has a little context on where they are coming from based on her opinions about how initial reactions happened and what to make of them. Why are you ignoring the bottom half of that quote? RE1031 said: 1. Trying to trick him into revealing (aka taking advantage of newbieness). 2. Teasing. Or more accurately, gleeful that someone else has a target on their back for today's lynch. It's important to note who is taking the "slip" seriously because if they are not, then it implies to me that they know it's going to turn up as nothing since they are mafia and the person making the slip is not. Honestly RE is just extraordinarily flat. Gee, thanks. Later she becomes for defensive for those who voted Roz I don't recall being defensive. If you could link where... Makes a complicated list that we waste time debating Why does time worry you when half the players haven't contributed much? Gets fired up about Coro but then backs all the way down My vote is still on her. And she still hasn't done much to make me think she is town. Re is not particularly suspicious, she is just not really doing very much. Who would you say is doing much? I would say she has found a place where she can kind of drift. Which is probably the most concerning part of all. 4 people have expressed a scum read on me. Nikamara, logic, Ruu, and you. I don't think that's drifting. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:20 PM
#428
lastwhisper31 said: The spoiler clearly states "EVERYTHING"logic340 said: I understand your eager for me to read the post on yurkin, just to clarify. Did you list them all, or some? Cause if your being nitpicky, then that feels more scummy, as your telling people what to look at, I will def look at his posts on my own, and will give you my conclusion when im finished. Everytime I read a page I jump to the last page, which is why Im answering posts from two different spots.yurkin said: roz1roz said: the underlined tells this is not post by a mistake imo. So what is roz trying to achieve...Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? 1. NAI RVS vote, there will be something telling about this but it isn't reveling itself now. 2. NAI really doesn't help us catch scum. 3. I liked this too but that in itself isn't enough to say it comes from town. yurkin said: logic340 said: So this is not a mafia play in my opinion but I could be TPR motivated. @roz1roz I change what I said I like you for uninformed party. Oh, such follow up, after at first you too easily said hes post regarding the bait's purpose is comming from town. edit: typo 1. Calling logic out for what exactly? This is a busy post and nothing else as she doesn't follow up. 2. NAI yurkin said: @suzune-chan #146 "they were really on the fence during the exchange and came off as more confussed and did not respond directly really based on positioning" -were exactly was i confussed? and on the fence suzune? 1. So while yurking was not confused, I would say that her position during the whole thing could be termed fence sitty considering that her only contribution to it was saying that it wasn't likely a gambit due to reading the sign-up thread and calling logic out for who knows what? Also this wasn't for you specifically or i would have tagged you I just took the time because it took no time. This is a tool that everyone can use. Read me and yukin off of it. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:20 PM
#429
lastwhisper31 said: Second post since you joined in, and this is what you quote? His rvs on me because he town reads me everytime im scum? You really dont like rvs do you. ONCE IT HAPPENED ONCE |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:22 PM
#430
lastwhisper31 said: Do you know what the logic incident is? I find it interesting that two people who commented on this have yet to inquire about what it actually means?Suzune-chan said: +1, so eager, and so jumpyRuu said: Suzune-chan said: Great, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu this is the @logic340 incident all over again -____- |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:24 PM
#431
RE1031 said: Why are you ignoring the bottom half of that quote? RE1031 said: 1. Trying to trick him into revealing (aka taking advantage of newbieness). 2. Teasing. Or more accurately, gleeful that someone else has a target on their back for today's lynch. It's important to note who is taking the "slip" seriously because if they are not, then it implies to me that they know it's going to turn up as nothing since they are mafia and the person making the slip is not. I'll also add that Abu is guilty of this. He did not sound like he took the slip seriously. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:25 PM
#432
RE1031 said: @RE1031 why are you shouting? It happened once and I noted it that is all.lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: hm....no reasons for RVS....noted. ONCE IT HAPPENED ONCE @lastwhisper what are you getting at? Should I sit back and do nothing in RVS? I think the is the second time you have mentioned me picking at RVS votes when I have much better stuff than that you could be poking at right now. Why haven't you inquired as wo what my inquires are about instead of just mudslinging them. And if that is not what you are doing then I do apologize. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:25 PM
#433
lastwhisper31 said: ok....and what does it mean for his alignment to you?roz1roz said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: yurkin said: abu's #50 According to the sign-up thread rozs not a newbie though. "50 to 100 games" You're right. Okay this is weird. How does someone make this kind of mistake? there is no jester in the game so it can't be on purpose. Unless... it's a gambit. Hello again ladies and gentelman. Thanks for creating material for analysis. I actually feel bad for playing newbie card to create (obvious) bait. Honestly speaking I should break the discussion around the post quoted above, cause later on it could go dangerous for me and scum wouldn't take a bait anymore afterwards anyway. I didn't. Why? Well, I actualy was surprised that Suzune-chan took the bait. I was even more surprised they actualy pushed it even after noticing there is something wrong here. I literaly wanted to see 2-3 more posts from them. Now as to analysis - mafia tendency would be either hardly push a misslynch with any arguments they can find OR defend to get town cred (since they obviously knew that this is false one). Sk can't really be detected here, as they didn't know if I'm mafia or not, so they would look simlar to a town. Wich player would be more likely to play one of this ways? Wich is more agresive in style and wich is more likely to build town cred to build "quite wolf". I will hide behind a newbie card here and say that you know each other better then I do. On the other side, you gave me material for analysis. Thanks for taking a bait. brootal |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:27 PM
#434
logic340 said: RE1031 said: @RE1031 why are you shouting? It happened once and I noted it that is all.lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Second post since you joined in, and this is what you quote? His rvs on me because he town reads me everytime im scum? You really dont like rvs do you.hm....no reasons for RVS....noted. ONCE IT HAPPENED ONCE Well, lastwhisper didn't (bold). Also, if I'm angry, I will never capitalize my words. It's more like an outburst of excitement... For future and past reference. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:31 PM
#435
I did not think it was bad read on you, just took a long time to write. Nor did I honestly think you would respond. @RE1031 Why is it bad for business? We only have roleblockers and a doctor in this game - as long as the vig's identity is hidden, and the doctor doesn't protect scum, then there is hardly anything to stop a shot. And I've already elaborated on the benefit of the vig taking him out instead of a lynch - it's the equivalent of a no lynch if we get rid of someone who is caught scum based on a slip and not behavior. What if he is not scum, the mafia have a roleblocker too, and honestly we are not too responsible about vigilante in the last few games, I think it we should get rid of threats that we can during the day in order to keep things from going unfortunately at night. In my experience as a host, town can have great days but shoot themselves in the foot each and every night. My reads on Abu and Ruu are no longer based on that one incident but the things that followed. Yes you are correct, but at that point of time in the topic you were more protective, which is what I was noticing.I need you to link posts where I do these things, because I'm not sure how you reached these conclusions. That period of time is pages three through the middle of four. I was not going to post every single post you made because that is busy work. But I read them all, it is a general summary of what happened in those pages. What about it stands out to you, as nothing but your list making really stood out to me.Ignoring bottom half the the quote?It's important to note who is taking the "slip" seriously because if they are not, then it implies to me that they know it's going to turn up as nothing since they are mafia and the person making the slip is not. This might be so and really should have gone on you two little player lists but as we currently stand it does nothing for us at the minute and you basically drop your read and move on without any real closure whether it is open or not it just kind of drops.Gee, thanks. Sorry, they don't come off really tonally anything, which is kind of what I noticed.I don't recall being defensive. If you could link where... See Logic vs RE page 3Why does time worry you when half the players haven't contributed much? 4 people have expressed a scum read on me. Nikamara, logic, Ruu, and you. I don't think that's drifting. Nothing really sticks though, it is just a lot of interesting posts. I would vote Ruu over you. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:32 PM
#436
logic340 said: Seems irrelevant, I don't read past games~.lastwhisper31 said: Do you know what the logic incident is? I find it interesting that two people who commented on this have yet to inquire about what it actually means?Suzune-chan said: Ruu said: You created this one by accepting so fast, rolling the blame onto Abu, then worrying about the worst case scenario, and then asked me about my opinion regarding it. The build up here was most interesting. Suzune-chan said: Great, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu this is the @logic340 incident all over again -____- |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:36 PM
#437
Suzune-chan said: This is laid out well and shows your thought process. I like it not enough to go full town but leaning on you more than others to this point. I do want to point out that when I said their interaction was good for town I didn't mean I was giving them town points, only that their interactions tend to be revealing of alignment. It may not hit us now but it's something to look back on. Interesting note that RE's vote is still on coro. Not sure if agreeing with her meant town reading her now but something for me or (someone else) to look further into. I never want to ISO someone again, I forget how long it actually takes and I did not glean as much interest as I had hoped I would get from this...I kind of thought this one would just hit me, but there was not much there and yes I talked about myself in third person. Suzune’s Case Against RE1031 Probably, I always forget to check club invites and there's no notification for it. This is such a weird slip up though... We could lynch them today, or we could save him for the vig shot. I think either way works. I might have given RE too much credit in my initial reading of the topic because I was really focused on Ruu and not the other people because this comment is really interesting. It could be read two ways, the first is that it is not worth lynching them let the vig do it the second is let’s just do it. This is a split way of looking at it if you think he is scum you would get rid of scum right away rather than sit on it because the vig could then be better used later. It also tells everyone what kind of night action the vig is going to take and that is just bad for business. I hope it is bait, just not the reverse psychology bait where he is scum and after he "reads" our reactions he drops off the radar because we'd think scum wouldn't do that. actually there was an interesting back and forth going on here. On page one it looks like you were sure that they were scum and wanted them to be lynched or vigged. On this page though, you have worked yourself back around to it must be bait. Which if you read the earlier posts, you were still on the must be scum thought process about how the day will be boring now. What changed you mind? Or are you using [url=Until yurkin pointed it out, I think all of us thought he was a newbie. Slips happen. It happened in The Morning After with MrSkittles (although to a much lesser degree).]this post[/url] as the complete change? Otherwise, it kind of looks like you are covering for Ruu/Abu/and myself.It is at this point, where you kind of drop off a bit. You become a little bit lighter you push against logic but not really for any sort of reason. You keep up pretty steadfast that it was not scummy for us to vote roz. We hit kind of a stride where you read people and put them into lists that we then fight over. But very little is said about you personally or where you stand. You never say what you think the initial reactions mean or how you used them so it just becomes something that RE did to look busy and fill time. This is where we get into the part where Suzune started to suspect RE a little Shit. coro's response is scummy as hell. Why does she vote suzune while simultaneously questioning which mafia role roz is? vote: coromandel This vote seemed to come out of left field. I was actually going to comment on it right away but was posting about something else and it got lost. I tried to hit at it later in a weak sad attempt when logic commented on the back and forth between RE and Coro, but Logic thought all was good and I was wavering. Which forces her to choose information from only the opening posts about why Coro is scummy Because you already had a suspect in mind (roz) yet you voted for Suzune. Either you didn't take roz's 'slip' seriously - which is scummy, or you did but didn't vote him. Why did you vote Suzune, I can't remember if you've explained. Which left me thinking that this was quite strange. As we know that RE took the ‘slip’ seriously I don’t think that Coro not taking it seriously is really an reason to doubt it. Okay, that was pretty much my reaction too. What do you make of the bait now? Which is coupled by the weirdness of this following post where RE agrees to what Coro said but leaves the vote there even though her reason for voting just melted and she agreed to it.This conversation seems to prompt the making of a new list to explain the old one. This one at least has a little context on where they are coming from based on her opinions about how initial reactions happened and what to make of them. Which ends us at the most confusing ping pong match, where RE dislikes Ruu’s read but not Ruu herself. Which causes a back and forth that is mostly Ruu saying, I mean it for this reason. And RE being like that is not what I am saying. Honestly this whole exchange is NAI. I get it, she townreads Ruu but dislikes her reads, simple enough. Quick Notes Honestly RE is just extraordinarily flat. -Initially it was RE who planted the idea about the Vig -It was also RE who was the first to flip from probably scum to probably bait -Later she becomes for defensive for those who voted Roz -Makes a complicated list that we waste time debating - Gets fired up about Coro but then backs all the way down - Townreads ruu but does not like her reads. - Now we got general talking again. Overall: Re is not particularly suspicious, she is just not really doing very much. The fact that the initial vig comment came from her is surprising, I also find her exchange with logic to be quite tense, I dislike that the initial fire for Coro burns out quickly, and then there has not really been much from her. With regards to the few swift changes and the kidn of juggling of opinions. She is neither overly friendly nor aggressive. I would say she has found a place where she can kind of drift. Which is probably the most concerning part of all. I would probably not rush out an lynch this spot, but it would need to do something more to improve it’s standing if it wanted to make it to late game, because right now. I would place it null leaning a little but on slightscum. It was less exciting then I hoped because there was not much there on back read. Just busy work and a few heated exchanges. Edit: added the rest of RE's numbers |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:38 PM
#438
Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: Seems irrelevant, I don't read past games~.lastwhisper31 said: Suzune-chan said: +1, so eager, and so jumpyRuu said: You created this one by accepting so fast, rolling the blame onto Abu, then worrying about the worst case scenario, and then asked me about my opinion regarding it. The build up here was most interesting. Suzune-chan said: Great, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu this is the @logic340 incident all over again -____- I was more quoting what* suzu said, rather then what ruu said about this incident, which yes I have no idea whats she is talking about. Edit: spelling |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:39 PM
#439
logic340 said: Dude im back reading, what I find interesting is up to me, all I did was point out that ur immediate posts were both questions on RVS posts. RE1031 said: @RE1031 why are you shouting? It happened once and I noted it that is all.lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Second post since you joined in, and this is what you quote? His rvs on me because he town reads me everytime im scum? You really dont like rvs do you.hm....no reasons for RVS....noted. ONCE IT HAPPENED ONCE @lastwhisper what are you getting at? Should I sit back and do nothing in RVS? I think the is the second time you have mentioned me picking at RVS votes when I have much better stuff than that you could be poking at right now. Why haven't you inquired as wo what my inquires are about instead of just mudslinging them. And if that is not what you are doing then I do apologize. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:42 PM
#440
RE1031 said: I really like this. It certainly isn't a scum +idea and I surely don't see the need to worry about a RB that could just as easily hit town. I see where you are coming form with it ending up the equivalent of a NL but I highly doubt we would have all voted there for 24 hours leading to no info. You all know how I feel about NL D1 and info (for those who don't you had better ask about me).Suzune-chan said: Probably, I always forget to check club invites and there's no notification for it. This is such a weird slip up though... We could lynch them today, or we could save him for the vig shot. I think either way works. I might have given RE too much credit in my initial reading of the topic because I was really focused on Ruu and not the other people because this comment is really interesting. It could be read two ways, the first is that it is not worth lynching them let the vig do it the second is let’s just do it. This is a split way of looking at it if you think he is scum you would get rid of scum right away rather than sit on it because the vig could then be better used later. It also tells everyone what kind of night action the vig is going to take and that is just bad for business. Why is it bad for business? We only have roleblockers and a doctor in this game - as long as the vig's identity is hidden, and the doctor doesn't protect scum, then there is hardly anything to stop a shot. And I've already elaborated on the benefit of the vig taking him out instead of a lynch - it's the equivalent of a no lynch if we get rid of someone who is caught scum based on a slip and not behavior. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:43 PM
#441
Suzune-chan said: Nothing really sticks though, it is just a lot of interesting posts. I would vote Ruu over you. The person I'm voting for has vanished, in the meanwhile I have solidified a town read on Ruu (which I think you disagree with?) I'll add that roz is probably not mafia (a little preflip association), but could still be TPR. I was going to comment on logic (but got distracted) - I like your small read on him and would like it even more if you pursued it. His defense of Abu is rather weak, something that I see coming more from scum than town. Do you disagree with my read on coro? You commented on how I came at her, but not how you felt about her yourself. I cannot continue to go after someone who is not here. If you can't bother to link the posts that gave the impressions you have about me, then I'm not going to bother defending myself from your accusations. Sorry, I'm lazy. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:44 PM
#442
lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Dude im back reading, what I find interesting is up to me, all I did was point out that ur immediate posts were both questions on RVS posts. RE1031 said: lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Second post since you joined in, and this is what you quote? His rvs on me because he town reads me everytime im scum? You really dont like rvs do you.hm....no reasons for RVS....noted. ONCE IT HAPPENED ONCE @lastwhisper what are you getting at? Should I sit back and do nothing in RVS? I think the is the second time you have mentioned me picking at RVS votes when I have much better stuff than that you could be poking at right now. Why haven't you inquired as wo what my inquires are about instead of just mudslinging them? And if that is not what you are doing then I do apologize. Did he answer my first question? I guess I could call it that. Did he answer my second question? No. Did he answer my third question? No. So now can you answer the questions I asked instead of getting all emotional? Thank you. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:46 PM
#443
RE1031 said: Speak for urself, in regards to what it means about his alignment, I dont have a definite answer on that, but as someone who noticed his post of 50/100 games under his belt, my first thought would not have been, oops he slipped.logic340 said: I like you for town this was clearly obvious and I am curious why RE/Ruu/suzune/abu didn't bring up that possibility. I think most surprising for me is RE and Suzune, this is definitely something that would get Ruu's interest and this is kind of expected from Abu. Until yurkin pointed it out, I think all of us thought he was a newbie. Slips happen. It happened in The Morning After with MrSkittles (although to a much lesser degree). |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:46 PM
#444
logic340 said: I am a tough cookie and thanks you for that. Ruu and i have history from my very first game, to each of our first games in the club, to MS match during Valentines, and then this. So we are well acquainted and pretty good at reading one another. I put a lot of stock in her read on me, though i let her pocket me a few games back so I am not as I once was, I still feel like I can get info that will be useful to others by playing around with her. I see, what a long history XD. btw what does pocket mean? |
Aug 11, 2017 7:47 PM
#445
Suzune-chan said: "Seems irrelevant" doesn't mean it isn't relevant. I actually have a reason for asking this question and noted that you didn't inquire either. Seems to me it would be good to understand where someone is coming from before passing judgement but continue as it helps me read you both. logic340 said: Seems irrelevant, I don't read past games~.lastwhisper31 said: Suzune-chan said: +1, so eager, and so jumpyRuu said: You created this one by accepting so fast, rolling the blame onto Abu, then worrying about the worst case scenario, and then asked me about my opinion regarding it. The build up here was most interesting. Suzune-chan said: Great, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu this is the @logic340 incident all over again -____- |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:47 PM
#446
RE1031 said: The game is not that long and I even told you where to look for the posts, I'm lazy too. I already read them all. Suzune proceeds to whine like a small child who is frustrated.Suzune-chan said: Nothing really sticks though, it is just a lot of interesting posts. I would vote Ruu over you. The person I'm voting for has vanished, in the meanwhile I have solidified a town read on Ruu (which I think you disagree with?) I'll add that roz is probably not mafia (a little preflip association), but could still be TPR. I was going to comment on logic (but got distracted) - I like your small read on him and would like it even more if you pursued it. His defense of Abu is rather weak, something that I see coming more from scum than town. Do you disagree with my read on coro? You commented on how I came at her, but not how you felt about her yourself. I cannot continue to go after someone who is not here. If you can't bother to link the posts that gave the impressions you have about me, then I'm not going to bother defending myself from your accusations. Sorry, I'm lazy. As far as Logic goes, you are correct that I really need to look into him since I do not feel the usual logic this game. Coro is also easy breezy this game, but you are correct that I am not getting scum vibes from them at this time. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:49 PM
#447
logic340 said: I did not actually consider it as part of Ruu's argument towards me as it did little to diminish the point and did nothing to make me think my current argument was ungrounded. Suzune-chan said: "Seems irrelevant" doesn't mean it isn't relevant. I actually have a reason for asking this question and noted that you didn't inquire either. Seems to me it would be good to understand where someone is coming from before passing judgement but continue as it helps me read you both. logic340 said: lastwhisper31 said: Do you know what the logic incident is? I find it interesting that two people who commented on this have yet to inquire about what it actually means?Suzune-chan said: +1, so eager, and so jumpyRuu said: You created this one by accepting so fast, rolling the blame onto Abu, then worrying about the worst case scenario, and then asked me about my opinion regarding it. The build up here was most interesting. Suzune-chan said: Great, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu this is the @logic340 incident all over again -____- |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:50 PM
#448
lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: Speak for urself, in regards to what it means about his alignment, I dont have a definite answer on that, but as someone who noticed his post of 50/100 games under his belt, my first thought would not have been, oops he slipped.logic340 said: I like you for town this was clearly obvious and I am curious why RE/Ruu/suzune/abu didn't bring up that possibility. I think most surprising for me is RE and Suzune, this is definitely something that would get Ruu's interest and this is kind of expected from Abu. Until yurkin pointed it out, I think all of us thought he was a newbie. Slips happen. It happened in The Morning After with MrSkittles (although to a much lesser degree). Well, the people who responded immediately and before roz revealed it was bait. You did not fall under that category. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:52 PM
#449
Nikamara said: logic340 said: I am a tough cookie and thanks you for that. Ruu and i have history from my very first game, to each of our first games in the club, to MS match during Valentines, and then this. So we are well acquainted and pretty good at reading one another. I put a lot of stock in her read on me, though i let her pocket me a few games back so I am not as I once was, I still feel like I can get info that will be useful to others by playing around with her. I see, what a long history XD. btw what does pocket mean? Commonly used abbreviations Here is a explanation from Epicmafia user "Pinche" Pocketing - "Pocketing is used negatively in my experience and it is when a scum is hard buddying a town in order to get them on their side to the point where the town is snuggly inside the mafia's pocket and the mafia can work them any which way they want." Town can try to pocket as well but it is mostly viewed as what scum do to town. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:54 PM
#450
Suzune-chan said: tbf she created that situation as well and was town who got lynched. So unless we are sure I would like to try and avoid that again. Not saying that appeal is cause to think she it town just wish people would ask more questions in an effort to actually understand the other person. In your case you probably know Ruu better than I do so...do you baby girl. logic340 said: I did not actually consider it as part of Ruu's argument towards me as it did little to diminish the point and did nothing to make me think my current argument was ungrounded. Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: Seems irrelevant, I don't read past games~.lastwhisper31 said: Do you know what the logic incident is? I find it interesting that two people who commented on this have yet to inquire about what it actually means?Suzune-chan said: +1, so eager, and so jumpyRuu said: You created this one by accepting so fast, rolling the blame onto Abu, then worrying about the worst case scenario, and then asked me about my opinion regarding it. The build up here was most interesting. Suzune-chan said: Great, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu this is the @logic340 incident all over again -____- |
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