Thread moved to the correct board. Please remember to post in the right board before posting :) |
| Light Novel reader here, what is after the 12th episode is in spoiler As @chzcy said, a classic tournament is in 3 parts : 3 matchs 1v1 which each one gives the team 1 point 1 match in 3v3 with the same system as StarCraft2 or in Judo, etc : it's a 1v1 and when someone loses, the next one from his team replaces him until there is nobody available. It gives 2 points to the winner of the 3v3 And then a 5v5 with a substitute : when the first guy die in each team, the substitute replace him. A player that plays in one type of match can't play in the others. It means they need 12 players in order to compete. There is an another (true ?) plot hole however when the the MC says to Qiao Yifan, the Assassin from Tiny Herb that he should play a Ghostblade. But when he creates his character One Inch Ash which is obviously level 1, it is written that he is a Ghostblade even though you can't choose your class before level 20. I don't know the episode though, maybe the episode 7 I'll edit with a screen later. Edit : episode 8, 20'  |
AraJun 30, 2017 2:42 PM
 Reinhard von Lohengramm : "Constellations of stars that I am seeing for the first time... you are all only allowed to exist as objects for my conquest and rule. Just wait. " Yang Wen-Li : Neither terrorism nor occultism have ever impacted history in any constructive way. Ernst von Eisenach : Checkmate. |
Ara said: Light Novel reader here, what is after the 12th episode is in spoiler As @chzcy said, a classic tournament is in 3 parts : 3 matchs 1v1 which each one gives the team 1 point 1 match in 3v3 with the same system as StarCraft2 or in Judo, etc : it's a 1v1 and when someone loses, the next one from his team replaces him until there is nobody available. It gives 2 points to the winner of the 3v3 And then a 5v5 with a substitute : when the first guy die in each team, the substitute replace him. A player that plays in one type of match can't play in the others. It means they need 12 players in order to compete. There is an another (true ?) plot hole however when the the MC says to Qiao Yifan, the Assassin from Tiny Herb that he should play a Ghostblade. But when he creates his character One Inch Ash which is obviously level 1, it is written that he is a Ghostblade even though you can't choose your class before level 20. I don't know the episode though, maybe the episode 7 I'll edit with a screen later. Edit : episode 8, 20' Well thanks for the detailed explanation. That one i have never spotted nor i remember about the rule of you cant choose class before level 20.Well i may consider reading the novel. Well out of the blue question do you recommend me to read the novel. I have read only couple no more than 10. |
| @Zxi Yes, I love reading the novel. Sadly I only found less than 700 chapters in english (the are more than 1700 in chinese, and no official release is available yet. There is a lot of stuff that is skipped in the anime (it is approx 230 chapters I guess ?), and when I read a LN, I often follow the anime in the same time to see the differences. I don't read a lot of LN though |
Reinhard von Lohengramm : "Constellations of stars that I am seeing for the first time... you are all only allowed to exist as objects for my conquest and rule. Just wait. " Yang Wen-Li : Neither terrorism nor occultism have ever impacted history in any constructive way. Ernst von Eisenach : Checkmate. |
Ara said: Light Novel reader here, what is after the 12th episode is in spoiler As @chzcy said, a classic tournament is in 3 parts : 3 matchs 1v1 which each one gives the team 1 point 1 match in 3v3 with the same system as StarCraft2 or in Judo, etc : it's a 1v1 and when someone loses, the next one from his team replaces him until there is nobody available. It gives 2 points to the winner of the 3v3 And then a 5v5 with a substitute : when the first guy die in each team, the substitute replace him. A player that plays in one type of match can't play in the others. It means they need 12 players in order to compete. There is an another (true ?) plot hole however when the the MC says to Qiao Yifan, the Assassin from Tiny Herb that he should play a Ghostblade. But when he creates his character One Inch Ash which is obviously level 1, it is written that he is a Ghostblade even though you can't choose your class before level 20. I don't know the episode though, maybe the episode 7 I'll edit with a screen later. Edit : episode 8, 20' If you really have read the Novel then you would know that you only need 6 Players. We have 3 Indiviual Challenges. Which is the Simple 1 vs 1 Then the Group Challenge, which you explained right. And for the 5vs5 you can use these 6 Players again. Because how you gonna explain Team 301 vs Exellent Era when Su Mucheng was in the Indiviual Challenge and in the Team Competion. Same for Sun Xiang who was in the Group and Team Competetion? So you only need 6 Player. But it is better to have more than 6 Players. |
| Btw let me explain it a bit better. You only need 6 Player in general 3 Player for the first part, so the Individual Challenge. With the simple 1 vs 1. These 3 Player can´t be used for the second part which would be the Group Challenge. But they can be used for the third part the so calles Team Challenge. And the one from the second part can also be used for the Team Competion. Which means you only need 6 Player. But like I said it is better to have more than 6 Players. There are many reasons. For Example if someone is ill or have broken fingers he can´t play anymore. And with that the Team can´t participate in the Match. So it is always better to have more than 6 Players. |
MidoraShiba said: Btw let me explain it a bit better. You only need 6 Player in general 3 Player for the first part, so the Individual Challenge. With the simple 1 vs 1. These 3 Player can´t be used for the second part which would be the Group Challenge. But they can be used for the third part the so calles Team Challenge. And the one from the second part can also be used for the Team Competion. Which means you only need 6 Player. But like I said it is better to have more than 6 Players. There are many reasons. For Example if someone is ill or have broken fingers he can´t play anymore. And with that the Team can´t participate in the Match. So it is always better to have more than 6 Players. Oh yes sorry, my bad. And another reason that is better to have more than 6 players is that the 5v5 needs to have a balanced team whereas in 1v1 and 3v3 it is better to only use damage dealer @Lemon wait... No legs ? :o |
Reinhard von Lohengramm : "Constellations of stars that I am seeing for the first time... you are all only allowed to exist as objects for my conquest and rule. Just wait. " Yang Wen-Li : Neither terrorism nor occultism have ever impacted history in any constructive way. Ernst von Eisenach : Checkmate. |
| @Ara Yeah, for example Team Thunderclap and his Master Tactician Xiao Shiqin. He is never plays in the Group or Individual Challenge. Only the Team Challenge because his Class is bad for PvP but relative good for the Team Challenge. And his Strategy is also important for them |
pla-btoom said: ZxI said: I am confused about something in the new Chinese anime. The 1st episode they mentioned that main character when he was a superstar his was never revealed to public but in the last episode when they were playing the finales against their rival infront of thousands the main character was among his team playing . Also in the celebrations they were 5 holding the cup also the team limit player is 5 Ye Xiu chose to sit in the backstage for all of his matches. It is true that each team fight there are 5 players but there is a reserved player for each team. So the official number of each team is 6. The ones holding the cup were all of his teammates, including the reserved member. even if he chose to sit in the backstage, I highly doubt his identity can be hidden from the public for so many years. Have you seen any Dota or LoL tournaments? The camera always zoom in on the players. Also, since that team and the manager cares so much about money, one of them would have sold him out. |
 |
| Few things irritate me a lot in this anime 1. One part that really irritates me is that the Cafe's Boss is completely oblivious to Lord Grim's. After Lord Grim beats a popular pro, the Cafe Manager should have questioned him. 2. Also, when a dozen pubs were watching Lord grim defeat Little Tang, they said "Isn't that Lord Grim" and "damn it really is. He is the star of the 10th server" and "the night the 10th server opened, he defeated three bosses." None of these pubs exposed Lord Grim as the cafe supervisor and none of them harassed him in person. 3. Can a cafe supervisor really play games all night? In one episode, two customers asked Ye Xiu for the big cone. In all the big fights and dungeon crawling, he never gets interrupted by customers? |
GrimorumInvokeJul 7, 2017 7:29 PM
|
SolonC said: @GrimorumInvoke As for your question 2, yes they know he is the cafe super (I really don't think super is a good word for what he does at that cafe, he's more like a waiter of bartender of some sort, but since it's how sub calls him, then ok). As I mentioned, he's not really a super of this cafe, just a waiter, so there's no point to harass him in person. Although I don't really why would anyone in the cafe wants to harass him in person, most of them are not even on the same server. It's just like come across someone with a little bit of reputation lately but some surprise and praise would be enough reaction don't u think? I know from personal experience that praise alone is not enough of a reaction. Pubs do one of many things. Here are some examples: 1. Try to steal/buy your account 2. Beg you for guides/tips 3. Ask for signatures 4. Demand to be part of Lord Grim's dungeon explorations. Otherwise, they will threaten or harass Lord Grim in the cafe. 5. Watch Lord Grim in person excessively to learn or be amused 6. Sell Lord Grim's identity or brag to other people that they know his identity/location |
|
SolonC said: GrimorumInvoke said: Few things irritate me a lot in this anime 1. One part that really irritates me is that the Cafe's Boss is completely oblivious to Lord Grim's. After Lord Grim beats a popular pro, the Cafe Manager should have questioned him. 2. Also, when a dozen pubs were watching Lord grim defeat Little Tang, they said "Isn't that Lord Grim" and "damn it really is. He is the star of the 10th server" and "the night the 10th server opened, he defeated three bosses." None of these pubs exposed Lord Grim as the cafe supervisor and none of them harassed him in person. 3. Can a cafe supervisor really play games all night? In one episode, two customers asked Ye Xiu for the big cone. In all the big fights and dungeon crawling, he never gets interrupted by customers? For your first question, I blame the animators and sub makers, their lack of awareness at how people outside China don't know about our culture makes the animation somewhat confusing at certain points. To explain it, you need to recall the first ep, when Ye Xiu has just entered the internet cafe and rented a computer. As government law, people have to show their government ID to the cafe's counter to do so, and Ye Xiu did and he left(forgot) his ID there. Later on, after he rekt Boss Lady's opponent under 40 sec, Boss Lady raised suspicions about his identity but then the cashier from the counter came by to return Ye's ID, Boss snatched the ID and found that the name on it is "Ye Xiu", not "Ye Qiu", that's when she stopped thinking he really is "Ye Qiu". Furthermore, because Pro League has a strict rule requires pro players provide their government ID and real name at that time, Boss Lady never thought Ye Qiu and Ye Xiu is the same person. As why and how did Ye Xiu get into the League with a fake name for 9 years, that part is a spoiler so you have to find it out in later seasons as if they don't skip that part. Thank you for explaining this part. Even after learning about this ID and government regulation, I still feel irritated because I felt the director could have done it a lot better. This fake name could have been used to build suspense. Instead, the director ignored it; I felt irritated for 6+ episodes. |
|
| @GrimorumInvoke 1. 2. At the beginning Lord Grim is only famous in the 10th server, and even if they announced it in the world chat on the 10th server, the reaction would be underwhelming since no one knows Lord Grim's real identity as Ye Qiu until much later, to them he's just the guy who works the night shift at Happy Cafe. Even the Glory Pro match officials don't recognise him at the Pro All Star event that the Happy Cafe trio later attend, since Ye Xiu doesn't really stand out either looks or personality wise, and he'd always been very good at pulling a vanishing act to escape being interviewed, etc. This is the main reason Excellent Era wanted rid of him, since he didn't bring in sponsorship, or give PR through interviews, so they made him a handy scapegoat, and blamed the teams poor performance on his leadership. 3. Can a cafe supervisor really play games all night? Most definitely, Yes!! As someone who always worked the night shift at McD's in my late teens/early 20's, I can tell you that it is long periods of utter boredom, with short periods of busy-ness, we used to get up to all sorts of non-work things!! LOL Plus the McD's is very close by, (Ye Xiu walks past it when he leaves Excellent Era HQ, which is only a block or so away from Happy Cafe). From experience he would phone the order in to the McD's, then go pick it up, or they might even deliver to regular business customers. We used to often deliver bags of ice to nearby bars if they ran out, as we had a big ice making machine. Plus he would only actually be alone during the 'Dead Zone', the late evening shift would probably finish around 2-3am, and the early shift would start around 5-6am, during the 'Dead Zone' hours if you don't have a security guard (which Happy Cafe doesn't, since it's apparently in a low crime area), then the doors would be locked, so as long as he was sat at the front desk, and could keep an eye on the doors (mainly to let people out), he could play Glory as much as he wanted. One of my fave bit in the novel is when he has this long conversation with a customer asking what brands of cigarettes are in the vending machine, prices, etc, and then after he's listed them all the customer decides that he's going to go outside and buy his own cigarettes, as they don't have the one he wants!! Ye Xiu you have my sympathy Bro, I have had many a customer like that in the past, and they are twice as bad if they are also drunk!! I lost track of who originally asked about the number of people in a Glory Pro team, but basically the absolute bare minimum is 6, but most of the big teams have 12 official players... Team Happy originally has 10 players (listed roughly in order of introduction), Lord Grim (Unspecialised), Dancing Rain (Launcher), Soft Mist (Battle Mage), Steamed Bun Invasion (Brawler), One Inch Ash (Ghostblade), Concealed Light (Summoner), Deception (Ninja), Windward Formation (Warlock), Little Cold Hands (Cleric), & Boundless Sea (Qi Master), Chen Gao (Chasing Haze) is the Boss, and Team Manager, and Wei Chen (Windward Formation) is the main investor. |
| By Cara (aka) Lady Flame HOT by name, HOT by nature. |
ladyflame_uk said: @GrimorumInvoke 1. 2. At the beginning Lord Grim is only famous in the 10th server, and even if they announced it in the world chat on the 10th server, the reaction would be underwhelming since no one knows Lord Grim's real identity as Ye Qiu until much later, to them he's just the guy who works the night shift at Happy Cafe. Even the Glory Pro match officials don't recognise him at the Pro All Star event that the Happy Cafe trio later attend, since Ye Xiu doesn't really stand out either looks or personality wise, and he'd always been very good at pulling a vanishing act to escape being interviewed, etc. This is the main reason Excellent Era wanted rid of him, since he didn't bring in sponsorship, or give PR through interviews, so they made him a handy scapegoat, and blamed the teams poor performance on his leadership. 3. Can a cafe supervisor really play games all night? Most definitely, Yes!! As someone who always worked the night shift at McD's in my late teens/early 20's, I can tell you that it is long periods of utter boredom, with short periods of busy-ness, we used to get up to all sorts of non-work things!! LOL Plus the McD's is very close by, (Ye Xiu walks past it when he leaves Excellent Era HQ, which is only a block or so away from Happy Cafe). From experience he would phone the order in to the McD's, then go pick it up, or they might even deliver to regular business customers. We used to often deliver bags of ice to nearby bars if they ran out, as we had a big ice making machine. Plus he would only actually be alone during the 'Dead Zone', the late evening shift would probably finish around 2-3am, and the early shift would start around 5-6am, during the 'Dead Zone' hours if you don't have a security guard (which Happy Cafe doesn't, since it's apparently in a low crime area), then the doors would be locked, so as long as he was sat at the front desk, and could keep an eye on the doors (mainly to let people out), he could play Glory as much as he wanted. One of my fave bit in the novel is when he has this long conversation with a customer asking what brands of cigarettes are in the vending machine, prices, etc, and then after he's listed them all the customer decides that he's going to go outside and buy his own cigarettes, as they don't have the one he wants!! Ye Xiu you have my sympathy Bro, I have had many a customer like that in the past, and they are twice as bad if they are also drunk!! I lost track of who originally asked about the number of people in a Glory Pro team, but basically the absolute bare minimum is 6, but most of the big teams have 12 official players... Team Happy originally has 10 players (listed roughly in order of introduction), Lord Grim (Unspecialised), Dancing Rain (Launcher), Soft Mist (Battle Mage), Steamed Bun Invasion (Brawler), One Inch Ash (Ghostblade), Concealed Light (Summoner), Deception (Ninja), Windward Formation (Warlock), Little Cold Hands (Cleric), & Boundless Sea (Qi Master), Chen Gao (Chasing Haze) is the Boss, and Team Manager, and Wei Chen (Windward Formation) is the main investor. Thank you for explaining these to me. For #1. I mentioned this above: Even after learning about this ID and government regulation, I still feel irritated because I felt the director could have done it a lot better. This fake name could have been used to build suspense. Instead, the director ignored it; I felt irritated for 6+ episodes. Btw, I did not click the spoiler For #2. I know from personal experience that Pubs do one of many things. Here are some examples: 1. Try to steal/buy your account 2. Beg you for guides/tips 3. Ask for signatures 4. Demand to be part of Lord Grim's dungeon explorations. Otherwise, they will threaten or harass Lord Grim in the cafe. 5. Watch Lord Grim in person excessively to learn or be amused 6. Sell Lord Grim's identity or brag to other people that they know his identity/location For #3, thank you, I no longer feel irritated about it. |
|
| @GrimorumInvoke GrimorumInvoke said: For #1. I mentioned this above: Even after learning about this ID and government regulation, I still feel irritated because I felt the director could have done it a lot better. This fake name could have been used to build suspense. Instead, the director ignored it; I felt irritated for 6+ episodes. Btw, I did not click the spoiler Ye Qiu is a real person, and it wasn't a fake photo ID. I can't say anything more without doing the whole spoiler thing again. LOL I can say that probably the only people who know the truth about the name thing, are Su Mucheng, who knew him before he was a pro, and Chen Gao, who found out by accident. |
| By Cara (aka) Lady Flame HOT by name, HOT by nature. |
SolonC said: GrimorumInvoke said: Thank you for explaining these to me. For #1. I mentioned this above: Even after learning about this ID and government regulation, I still feel irritated because I felt the director could have done it a lot better. This fake name could have been used to build suspense. Instead, the director ignored it; I felt irritated for 6+ episodes. Btw, I did not click the spoiler For #2. I know from personal experience that Pubs do one of many things. Here are some examples: 1. Try to steal/buy your account 2. Beg you for guides/tips 3. Ask for signatures 4. Demand to be part of Lord Grim's dungeon explorations. Otherwise, they will threaten or harass Lord Grim in the cafe. 5. Watch Lord Grim in person excessively to learn or be amused 6. Sell Lord Grim's identity or brag to other people that they know his identity/location For #3, thank you, I no longer feel irritated about it. Oh, I see your question, for the suspense part, well, Boss still don't know right? Don't you at least a bit curious when will she and how she'll react to that? There's your suspense, and it will be revealed in later eps. So no, the director did it on purpose to respect and follow the original source. I believe it would be 10 times more suspenseful if the Boss investigated further and further . At the minimum, she should of asked who is Ye Xiu's teacher. Since the anime followed the original source, both the animation and manwah failed in this regard |
|
Kuaci said: ask if the game was more than 10 years, are you realy need someone to teach u, how to use your skill? whereas its not ur first time hunting in party. "everyone is stupid except me" ? Who are you talking to? |
|
SolonC said: GrimorumInvoke said: I know from personal experience that praise alone is not enough of a reaction. Pubs do one of many things. Here are some examples: 1. Try to steal/buy your account 2. Beg you for guides/tips 3. Ask for signatures 4. Demand to be part of Lord Grim's dungeon explorations. Otherwise, they will threaten or harass Lord Grim in the cafe. 5. Watch Lord Grim in person excessively to learn or be amused 6. Sell Lord Grim's identity or brag to other people that they know his identity/location I get ur confusions, and I get why anime didn't explain this well. Season 1 for this anime is more like animators taking a break, don't consider this anime has seasons, cuz the truth is it's more like Naruto, it needs a whole lot eps to actually explain the background settings, they seasonized it only because of contract and stuff. Now back to the question, game Glory has 10 sub-servers and LordGrim is in the latest one, which means most people in that Cafe are on different servers. Also, there is a combined server for players higher than a certain level - Realm of Gods or whatever( Sorry I can't memorize all the English translations), it actually should be called Asgard. And the game has been up and running for 10 years, which means most players are at a higher level or on the combined server already. The difference from sub-server to combined server is that combined server has higher level dungeons, players, new tactics for raids, etc. So for them, low-level skills mean nothing because the game setting is you can't break dungeon records that are lower than your level. Another thing is in Chinese culture, Face is important from every aspect, so normal people won't just budge in and ask for things, that's considered low self-esteem for us. And that's why characters in this novel interest us Chinese readers, they are different and stuff. As for to steal his weapon, based on the game mechanic that won't really do anything. A silver-tire equipment means that it is self-designed, self-made, self-customized from rare materials, and silver-tire equipment can be upgraded by adding new rare materials with a better design. The hard part isn't to make them, but to design them, so for a low-level silver-tire weapon, to just steal it is useless, to ask for the design? That's like top secret even in the pro clubs, they know it's not gonna happen so why bother. As steal his account and stuff, remember how they put a card into a reader then login to the game? Without that specific account card, there's no way of doing so. As for 3 and 4, again, they are not on the same server, so they can't do it, it's gonna be a spoiler to say more than that. For 5, they did actually wanna stay to watch and learn but remember how Boss yelled at them to drive them away? ( At least in novel she yelled at them to drive them away), so that made sense there. As 6, I don't really get the point of selling his identity, who would buy it? Then brag to others, sure, but that's not gonna affect our story right? So it shouldn't be shown. As far as I understand, that answered your question. But in case you have more, just go ahead and ask, as an original Chinese novel reader I'd be happy to let more people join the show. Thank you very much. That helped a lot, but I won't change my anime score. I will look forward to next season, but I really hate the author's attempt at comedy. I feel like comedy should happen naturally in bizarre situations, but the author forces it too much. I was also extremely irritated when the blade master stole the orange weapon from a lvl 33. Seems like a huge plot hole that ruined my experience. Lastly, why is clearing dungeons at the fastest speed so important? |
|
SolonC said: GrimorumInvoke said: Thank you very much. That helped a lot, but I won't change my anime score. I will look forward to next season, but I really hate the author's attempt at comedy. I feel like comedy should happen naturally in bizarre situations, but the author forces it too much. I was also extremely irritated when the blade master stole the orange weapon from a lvl 33. Seems like a huge plot hole that ruined my experience. Lastly, why is clearing dungeons at the fastest speed so important? Dam, I went out to grab something to eat and then I just realized it's fking 9 in the morning, no restaurant opens that early, lol. As for the anime score thing, that doesn't concern me, I'm not one of those crazy anime fans that can't stand other opinions, actually as long as you have your reasons and points, that's rather good. I just hate people saying "Oh it's Chinese, it's not gonna be good, period", that's something different. Ok back to your question, the comedy part, for me that's fine, cuz after all the source is a web-novel for readers to have fun and relax, and in the Chinese version anime, these things do not really feel like been forced or something, maybe that's the cultural difference but that's something we can't really fix, so I can't defend them for that. And some of those comedies are to help describe characteristics like some people are born to be funny and that just happens, so I actually find that's more realistic than most Japanese comedy animes, no offense. As for stealing the orange weapon, either you missed some part of that episode or it's not clear about it. Huang killed that lvl 33 avatar and that orange weapon was a loot drop, in case the anime didn't mention, there will be loot drops after being killed in the game, randomly. That's why Huang said he was so lucky afterward. Then the dungeon record part, that's something the anime should explain or at least make a note on top of the screen. First kills will drop extra loot and system will have bounties for those who make the first kill. And the time record thing, not only there will be system awards for those records like each week or something, if you played MMORPGs you'll notice big guilds need to build up their reputation to recrew more players, in case you didn't know, those big guilds in this game are supporting materials and potential pro-players to their corresponding pro-clubs, and they are actually founded by the pro-clubs, so more player means more material and more potential pros. And records are the fastest way to build their reputation cuz players raid dungeon all the time, and they will see those guild names whenever they enter the dungeon. That's all I can think of to answer your question, if something is still not clear, let me know. You explained many things very well. One more thing. If someone PK another player, a random loot is dropped. Does that mean the lvl 33 player lost his orange weapon? |
|
SolonC said: GrimorumInvoke said: You explained many things very well. One more thing. If someone PK another player, a random loot is dropped. Does that mean the lvl 33 player lost his orange weapon? Exactly, in WB, Huang actually planned to return it later cuz let's be honest, he didn't need that cuz he basically wouldn't play that account much, and he did return it later on. But clearly that part was considered "NOT IMPORTANT" to the anime and they cut it off. wait, let me get this straight. Kill a player and you randomly steal their item? I think this is a super interesting concept! Wait... Lord Grim killed a lot of people, but nobody on his team has an orange weapon? |
|
GrimorumInvoke said: I believe it would be 10 times more suspenseful if the Boss investigated further and further . At the minimum, she should of asked who is Ye Xiu's teacher. Since the anime followed the original source, both the animation and manwah failed in this regard I think it is suspenseful enough that we don't know how and when Chen Guo will find out Ye Xiu and Ye Qiu is one. Anyway, if she investigated it, it would omit the suspense.. Why? Mainly, because Ye Xiu doesn't care if she finds out. He even told her during their first meeting that he really is Ye Qiu. So if she asks again, it would be the same. But even though this series would have a rearrangement of stuffs, I doubt Chen Guo will ever use her time to investigate Ye Xiu's identity. Mainly because Chen Guo is a big fan of only two pro players... Ye Qiu and Su Mucheng. There are 200 pro-players in the alliance, if in Chen Guo's mind Ye Xiu is someone who was kicked out because he's not good enough in the pro scene, then that would only mean that his name isn't even something worth mentioning (in pro scene only ofc). Anyway, you have lots of questions and I really want to answer them all, but @SolonC already explained all of them very well. So there you go :) I recommend reading the light novel because it explains everything in detail (of course lol). And like what was mentioned before, the comedy is so natural there, and also relatable. I think it's the anime's atmosphere and visuals that made the comedy scenes seem forced. :/ |
  “I despise common sense. I’ve seen the world from every possible angle. This cruel, ridiculous, beautiful world.” - Lacie Baskerville ||❤|| |
MagePhaira said: GrimorumInvoke said: I believe it would be 10 times more suspenseful if the Boss investigated further and further . At the minimum, she should of asked who is Ye Xiu's teacher. Since the anime followed the original source, both the animation and manwah failed in this regard I think it is suspenseful enough that we don't know how and when Chen Guo will find out Ye Xiu and Ye Qiu is one. Anyway, if she investigated it, it would omit the suspense.. Why? Mainly, because Ye Xiu doesn't care if she finds out. He even told her during their first meeting that he really is Ye Qiu. So if she asks again, it would be the same. But even though this series would have a rearrangement of stuffs, I doubt Chen Guo will ever use her time to investigate Ye Xiu's identity. Mainly because Chen Guo is a big fan of only two pro players... Ye Qiu and Su Mucheng. There are 200 pro-players in the alliance, if in Chen Guo's mind Ye Xiu is someone who was kicked out because he's not good enough in the pro scene, then that would only mean that his name isn't even something worth mentioning (in pro scene only ofc). Anyway, you have lots of questions and I really want to answer them all, but @SolonC already explained all of them very well. So there you go :) I recommend reading the light novel because it explains everything in detail (of course lol). And like what was mentioned before, the comedy is so natural there, and also relatable. I think it's the anime's atmosphere and visuals that made the comedy scenes seem forced. :/ kinda offtopic. who is that girl in your profile? Reminds me of guilty crown. |
|
SolonC said: GrimorumInvoke said: wait, let me get this straight. Kill a player and you randomly steal their item? I think this is a super interesting concept! Wait... Lord Grim killed a lot of people, but nobody on his team has an orange weapon? Ok to explain this, first we need to talk about some gaming concept, like the general game concept, not just for Glory but basically every MMORPG. In MMORPGs, equipment sorts to different tiers, the higher the tire, the rarer it would be in loot drop from dungeons and bosses, and there is only a few high tier equipment at low level and orange-tier item is most likely the highest tier in loot drop. That been said, it's rather realistic that none of Ye's team has an orange-tier equipment even they killed so many players. And TBH, calling it steal feels wrong for me, that's more like when you kill someone in RL, you get to take things from the corpse, just in game, it's not anything you want but random loot drop by the system. Thanks SolonC. Now I can prepare to watch S2 without feeling so irritated about all the things that were not explained. However, this does reinforce my reasoning for a low rating for S1 |
|
GrimorumInvoke said: Thanks SolonC. Now I can prepare to watch S2 without feeling so irritated about all the things that were not explained. However, this does reinforce my reasoning for a low rating for S1 Hmm, though I will point out that you will always get these sort of errors when a novel gets adapted, rather than a manga (and even they can get important details glossed over), whether it is an anime, or a film with real actors. Take for example the second Harry Potter film, the scene with the vanishing cabinet was totally cut, (though you can find it in the deleted scenes on the DVD), and look how important that detail turned out to be in Half Blood Prince!! This is why I said that they should have been brave, and either made a double season, and finished off the 10th server arc, or if you take into account the manga adaptation as well, at least made a 13 episode first season. This would have meant that they could relax a bit more on time, and some of the background details wouldn't have had to be cut. Though I will say that I have seen adaptations that are much, much worse!! |
| By Cara (aka) Lady Flame HOT by name, HOT by nature. |
ladyflame_uk said: GrimorumInvoke said: Thanks SolonC. Now I can prepare to watch S2 without feeling so irritated about all the things that were not explained. However, this does reinforce my reasoning for a low rating for S1 Hmm, though I will point out that you will always get these sort of errors when a novel gets adapted, rather than a manga (and even they can get important details glossed over), whether it is an anime, or a film with real actors. Take for example the second Harry Potter film, the scene with the vanishing cabinet was totally cut, (though you can find it in the deleted scenes on the DVD), and look how important that detail turned out to be in Half Blood Prince!! This is why I said that they should have been brave, and either made a double season, and finished off the 10th server arc, or if you take into account the manga adaptation as well, at least made a 13 episode first season. This would have meant that they could relax a bit more on time, and some of the background details wouldn't have had to be cut. Though I will say that I have seen adaptations that are much, much worse!! Some of my most beloved animes has as many flaws as King's avatar. i was well immersed and fully enjoyed the others, Kinf's avatar failed on this important aspect for me |
|
TKMike said: GrimorumInvoke said: Some of my most beloved animes has as many flaws as King's avatar. i was well immersed and fully enjoyed the others, Kinf's avatar failed on this important aspect for me That's called preferences. Yes, any time I type "for me," it means preference. However, the many unexplained important details are facts that support why my preference was not met. |
|
TKMike said: GrimorumInvoke said: Yes, any time I type "for me," it means preference. However, the many unexplained important details are facts that support why my preference was not met. Okay, and let me ask you this: "Some of my most beloved animes has as many flaws as King's avatar." What "many" flaws can be ignored and still be your favorites? Since you're specific pointing out some things that people doesn't consider to be necessary. An example is Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei(a different anime I like). It explains basic stuff for the audience to understand the rules within their universe, yet alot people consider it unnecesarry info dump. But you can ignore this and just answer the bolded part. To be specific, let's take Boku Dake Inai Machi as an example. Episodes 1-9 was such an amazing thrilling ride along with many others things that I completely forgave the last 3 poorly done episodes and plot holes and flaws, such as, In short, rating a flawed anime with a 10 is like falling in love with a flawed person. I accept and overlook flaws Regarding the Mahouka anime, I loved the info; it was not unnecessary info dump |
GrimorumInvokeJul 13, 2017 5:59 PM
|
More topics from this board
Poll: » Quanzhi Gaoshou Episode 12 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )eplipswich - Jun 15, 2017 |
149 |
by LeenPhoenixRae
»»
Aug 12, 12:49 AM |
|
Poll: » Quanzhi Gaoshou Episode 11 Discussion ( 1 2 )eplipswich - Jun 8, 2017 |
64 |
by LeenPhoenixRae
»»
Aug 12, 12:22 AM |
|
Poll: » Quanzhi Gaoshou Episode 10 Discussion ( 1 2 )eplipswich - Jun 1, 2017 |
75 |
by LeenPhoenixRae
»»
Aug 12, 12:02 AM |
|
Poll: » Quanzhi Gaoshou Episode 9 Discussion ( 1 2 )eplipswich - May 25, 2017 |
60 |
by LeenPhoenixRae
»»
Aug 11, 11:32 PM |
|
Poll: » Quanzhi Gaoshou Episode 8 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )eplipswich - May 19, 2017 |
114 |
by LeenPhoenixRae
»»
Aug 11, 11:08 PM |