Basic Game V6: Kitty Mafia | Game End - Mafia Win!

amberwillow said:
Not in my town read list.

DenjaX said:
@logic340
@Grapefruit21

Do you guys think that we should put our difference aside and have a makeshift alliance? I believe both of you are town.

logic340 said:
That would have been great segregation work that would have bore much fruit him being a newer player and all. Where are you feelings on RE? I have a slight town read there but find her hard to nail down.

amberwillow said:
Hmm, I am not sure about this..

DenjaX said:
I dunno man, I am not comfortable with the lynch especially people like Sollux/Shinichi in it. He was supposed to be my target for my Gladiator-esque but he gone so I am left with Shinichi instead. Sollux doesn't know my playstyle much that is why I decided to target him to get some segregation done. xDD His slot is questionable.

Crossbell said:
I am leaning towards lynching one of followind/grrr right now because I think you are town. I'm not sure if Claire replacing out makes her scum, despite my gut trying to scream "LYNCH IT WITH FIRE" (Hi, Iso!). My top three town reads are Penta, you, and Lamby? The Lamby townread is dying though.

logic340 said:
DenjaX you don't like a Grapefruit lynch how do you feel about Crossbell?

DenjaX said:
@Grapefruit21 You might wanna claim now. It is almost EoD

Yeah, I am digging things about RE. It is just he is too clean. I can't find any dirt for me to tickle him. His reactions and emotions seemed too real to consider it fake. Has RE had a scum game before?

Why are you not sure about it?

DenjaX said:
Why are you not sure about it?

amberwillow said:
I know that she did -_-
I mean that she didn't contribute to the game much and posting much fluff posts despite being active enough what looked strange - the thoughts before lynch.

DenjaX said:
Do you remember if Crossbell is exhibiting any scum indicative tell if we are referencing his gameplay on CCL?

logic340 said:
I really didn't dupe everyone I was the main lynch option for 3 days and skated by on the fact the town kept shooting themselves in the foot by lying repeatedly.
grrr- claimed Miller (VT)
Claire - claimed Vengeful (VT)
Karote - On 3 posts got kit deaded (the Cop) D1
Grapefruit - faked a PR then claimed Vanilla
Rinto - Self voted confused everyone

I fooled no one but got the win due to towns issues

Shinichi-Kun said:
not much thought because a page and a half alone led to her being lynched which she posted i think like once or twice during that.

RE1031 said:
So I'll just leave this here.
vote: DenjaX

Right now, scummy ranking goes: DenjaX>>>>>>>Grapefruit>Logic; Penta somewhere in the mix

Grapefruit21 said:

Emotional aside that is not how town lost and is revisionist history. Claires lie caught you, karote didn't lie???, rintos self vote cleared them. We lost because I spammed like a crazy person and that made my case less convincing and as a result in a critical EoD vote we had two town not voting and one by themselves.

RE1031 said:
I will be willing to change my vote to logic.
Something bothers me about this whole situation. Him trying to suggest to other people that he and Grapefruit are townies seems like future planning in case Grapefruit does get lynched (which is becoming likelier and likelier) and flips town. Things are working out *too well* for him.

Also, I really, really want to lynch DenjaX, so that was hard for me to say. But I don't see that happening today.
Also, I get the feeling grrr is cop. lmao.

Grapefruit21 said:
Still catching up. Logics read on me is so flimsy right now. Quotes incoming

DenjaX said:
Your vote against Grape:



Have you caught up already?

logic340 said:
no he didn't lie he just didn't participate and got town lynched on 3 votes. I didn't dupe everyone as cross suggested though so let's make that clear. When I flipped town will you consider reevaluating cross finally?

logic340 said:
Do you think there is any chance that Grapefruit and I are T/T here? Or does one flip prove the other for youi?

logic340 said:
No that doesn't help me understand the town read as he could use it to pocket you no? Like I need more on his town read of you and your town read of him. I want to be able to say you two are unaligned but I cannot do that.
Grape feels aligned with Folllow, Penta, Claire, and you this game which is something I am not used to with him. This is too much buddying going on from his slot imo. Like if any of the people named above flip scum it doesn't clear Grapefruit in the least for me which I find concerning. Structure of a post huh? What about my post structure? Town or mafia logic?

logic340 said:
He didn't hop on he started it. Grapefruit doesn't deserve a town read (not sure I do either( which concerns me about you right now. What do you rhino of Follow ave Grape's interactions? Softball our real suspicion of one another?

logic340 said:
I feel the same way..it's quite curious that Grape and I are option 1 and 2 when Claire's actions are still unresolved..shit we have people who haven't even weighed in on the subject.

RE1031 said:
I will be willing to change my vote to logic.
Something bothers me about this whole situation. Him trying to suggest to other people that he and Grapefruit are townies seems like future planning in case Grapefruit does get lynched (which is becoming likelier and likelier) and flips town. Things are working out *too well* for him.

Also, I really, really want to lynch DenjaX, so that was hard for me to say. But I don't see that happening today.
Also, I get the feeling grrr is cop. lmao.

Shinichi-Kun said:


is denja scumy for his own reasons or are u basing this off the actions of claire?

amberwillow said:
Hmm, that is possible, I guess.
U want to lynch him because of Claire's fakeclaiming situation?
If u are thinking that he is cop just because of his % posts, then I highly doubt that he is.

Grapefruit21 said:
This is me not claiming.

Grapefruit21 said:
This is me not claiming.

RE1031 said:

95% Claire's actions, 5% his. But Claire's actions were really, really, really, really, really scummy.



Yes. That and he hasn't exactly built up the biggest defense.. He keeps saying he has these plans/strategies, or good leads, something like that. But he doesn't mention any names. Which is odd.
And I feel like he's been kind of hinting at it.. Also asked us to claim a while back our flavors. Which I did, by the way, in case anyone caught it :D

RE1031 said:
I will be willing to change my vote to logic.
Something bothers me about this whole situation. Him trying to suggest to other people that he and Grapefruit are townies seems like future planning in case Grapefruit does get lynched (which is becoming likelier and likelier) and flips town. Things are working out *too well* for him.

Also, I really, really want to lynch DenjaX, so that was hard for me to say. But I don't see that happening today.
Also, I get the feeling grrr is cop. lmao.

Grapefruit21 said:
logic is scum here. Lynch him when I flip town. Cross I'm willing to vote following but not willing to be the second vote right now

Grapefruit21 said:
logic is scum here. Lynch him when I flip town. Cross I'm willing to vote following but not willing to be the second vote right now

DenjaX said:
So are you not willing to make a truce with logic and work together to catch other scum? Like Kira+L scenario in Deathnote xDD

amberwillow said:
this is u diverting attention.

Grapefruit21 said:

Imwillimg to lynch grrr, re, or follo. I'm not moving early though.

logic340 said:
If you really feel that grrr is the cop why would you out him like that? Are you being serious or nah? Can you elaborate on what you mean "future planning" can you give me something concrete that makes me scum and grrr town rather than you speculation?

Grapefruit21 said:
Why else is logic pushing me but helping float the idea that we're town v town. I'd reevaluate after a flip but I've got confidence in my case. It feels like the same stuff he was doing to avoid the noose last time

Grapefruit21 said:
I'm town. Dead townies are town.
Grapefruit21
CorruptedPurity
Oyasumi_Rosie

Cross reads town to me and I think I can read cross. Keep an eye on him going forward though, he struggles massively in the late game as scum, should be easy enough to catch if it happens.

Lam-b read incredibly game solving before dropping off the face of the earth.

Sollux!slot read incredibly purely if uselessly. Including by dead townies. Tone was always on point.


Crossbell
Lam-b
Sollux


RE1031 initially garnered scum reads from me, but their D2 stepped up. Really came across as a voice of reason, and not in a scum sticking their head into earn town credit for a town v town feud sort of way. Plus I loved the way he kept poking at logic for snapping at him for entering that convo. Town lean.

Claire DenjaX I really want to put them at the top of my town pool, but that gambit was pretty bad. I have a lot of confidence in my tonal read on Claire but I need Denja to back it up with actions.

amberwillow I've had a lot of mind meld moments with them. That is usually a really good indicator for me. (well except for Suzu in LQ, but that is a whole different kettle of fish) I also am really a fan of his posts starting around here


RE
ClaireDenjaX
amberwillow

That leaves logic, Penta, grrr, and followind. I don't have strong reads on 3 of those, so we have:

logic340

Which gives us a rainbow wall that looks like the following:
Grapefruit21
CorruptedPurity
Oyasumi_Rosie
Crossbell
Lam-b
Sollux
RE
ClaireDenjaX
amberwillow
Followind
PentaFlare
grrr
logic340

I won't fault anyone for trying to lynch ClaireDenjaX given Claire's play I just ask you to think about what saltiness indicates in terms of alignments. And to keep an eye on Denja.

For my neutral pile I have conflicting reads on each of them.
PentaFlare is an awesome scum player and hasn't done anything outside their range, but they have been overall townie. I think the push and then explanation for the CorruptedPurity was great and matches a lot of my own thinking. I also am somewhat sympathetic to not wanting to share reads that might change because of them. That said withholding reads is a great way to not be held accountable for them. I also think that logic's defense is pretty incriminating for Penta if logic were to flip scum, which is my prevailing world right now. Penta was townie, but not so obv town that people should have been rushing to say we should lynch the claimed town PR before the VT. And Claire wasn't so scummy to have earned that.

Followind has done almost nothing but has the opposite tonal purity to Sollux in my opinion. For some reason a lot of his posts just have a scummy feel I can't shake, but as above the recent Sollux is scummy because they are doing the same thing as me is awesome and I really want to town read him for having the cajones to make that read. Anyone who has played with him before let me know if that's inside his scum range.

grrr comes across as pretty helpful and cogent this game. I'd had a solid town lean here most of the game. However on my last reread I noticed something I can't get off. He could have been white knighting CorruptedPurity. That 12345 read was a reach and I'm not sure if I'm slipping into a pocket with him mind melding with me on logic. That is all tinfoil to be sure, but enough to knock him down a peg or two for me.

Anyway let's lynch one of logic (please!) and DenjaX (please no) and move onto D3. K Tx By

Edit: Fixed color tags and one incomplete sentence probably leaving 5 more behind.

Grapefruit21 said:
ohhh derp...

Well I can pretend I meant that post moved you up from town lean (green) to town read (cyan) but really I am just tired after work.

Grapefruit21 said:
Why else is logic pushing me but helping float the idea that we're town v town. I'd reevaluate after a flip but I've got confidence in my case. It feels like the same stuff he was doing to avoid the noose last time

Grapefruit21 said:
Why else is logic pushing me but helping float the idea that we're town v town. I'd reevaluate after a flip but I've got confidence in my case. It feels like the same stuff he was doing to avoid the noose last time

RE1031 said:

Because I kind of want him to die. I'm being half-serious. It's a completely far-fetched guess.
By future planning, I mean when Grapefruit gets lynched, if he gets lynched, and if he flips town, you get a somewhat dirty free pass. We were going to target you next. Because lots of us thought it was a T/S or S/T situation. But by suggesting that both you are actually townies just going at each other, then the likelyhood of you getting lynched the next day is a lot slimmer.

DenjaX said:
If you and logic make a truce and we form an alliance, we can lynch RE together along with grrr's vote:

Grapefruit21 said:
Why else is logic pushing me but helping float the idea that we're town v town. I'd reevaluate after a flip but I've got confidence in my case. It feels like the same stuff he was doing to avoid the noose last time

Grapefruit21 said:

Nah man that draws more attention.

DenjaX said:
If you and logic make a truce and we form an alliance, we can lynch RE together along with grrr's vote:

logic340 said:
How would I get a free pass? Most have said that one of us is scum and the other is town so no one is getting a free pass if either of us flip. I know I will flip town cannot tell you that about Grapefruit but if this is T/T we wasted a lot of this phase and scum are sitting back chilling.

RE1031 said:

Oh, I don't plan on giving anyone a free pass :)
But you're suggesting that you should be given one. You've been planting the seed of doubt.