Does anyone actually think that Gil is the better king just after the BoK?
At least Gil's demeanour gives off a widely different impression in that scene. Add to that what he says and does in F/SN.
I think even Nasu slowly changed his vision on the character of Gil over time. Gil was never shown to be like this in the original VN sources.
I know, that's why I talked about people that never read fgo.
Okay, let's take a look at the new Servant's My Room lines.
Medusa Lancer's My Room highlights:
Disliked things: While swimming in the sea, seaweed gets entangled around your feet. I am not good with that. I particularly dislike seaweed.
Well played, Nasu. At first i overlooked it, then it suddenly clicked and lols were had.
Noble Phantasm Card: I won't kill you gently.
Nice call back.
Enkidu's My Room highlights:
Ah... she is here too. Now then... is there anything around here that I can throw at her...? (When you have: Ishtar)
Jaguar Man's My Room highlights:
Ascension 1: To be honest there's not meowch change~? Shut yer mouth!
Okay, Taiga >_>
Bond 2: You've been working furry hard, Master. As a reward, I'll stick this Jaguar Stamp on you! Meow!
*taiga dojo stamps ptsd intensfies*
That dark skinned Archer-kun who gives off vibes of shades of gray... hm, I think he wasn't like this before, meow... somehow I feel responsible... (When you have: EMIYA)
Disliked things: The Jaguar Man's weakness, that would be a fellow feline which is a lion, that's a bit... huh, I see a vision of a strange creature holding a manga-like stick of meat...
Yes plz.Make Saber Lion a Servant. This will give a certain someone aneurysm.
Btw Astro, remember the talk we had about the art book of Extella and if it will have translated material?
Marvelous updated their desciption:
"Marvelous Europe today announces that Fate/EXTELLA: The Umbral Star, the highly-anticipated cation title set within the much-beloved Fate universe, will release in Europe on January 20th 2017 for the PlayStation®4 and the PlayStation®Vita. Alongside the standard release, a limited production of the European exclusive Moon Crux Edition bundle containing 7.5” by 6.3” hardcover art book featuring over 100 pages of high-quality artwork and backstory from Fate/EXTELLA: The Umbral Star."
I told them that this was the first time I saw that part and if it meant that we will be getting a translation of the material.
ssjokg said: "hardcover art book featuring over 100 pages of high-quality artwork and backstory from Fate/EXTELLA."
This is the first time I saw "backstory" in the description of the art book.Does that mean we get a translation of the material book of the Japanese version?
Marvelous said: Yes the art book features localised content from the Japanese art book.
Before the hype intensifies , I hope that doesnt mean "the few japanese in the artworks are translated".
Well, Quetzalcoatl sure is a pain in the ass. Had her from ~700k all the way down to a post-Guts ~2k HP and she crit'd my entire backrow line-up in a single turn.
ssjokg said: Yes plz.Make Saber Lion a Servant. This will give a certain someone aneurysm.
Btw Astro, remember the talk we had about the art book of Extella and if it will have translated material?
Marvelous updated their desciption:
"Marvelous Europe today announces that Fate/EXTELLA: The Umbral Star, the highly-anticipated cation title set within the much-beloved Fate universe, will release in Europe on January 20th 2017 for the PlayStation®4 and the PlayStation®Vita. Alongside the standard release, a limited production of the European exclusive Moon Crux Edition bundle containing 7.5” by 6.3” hardcover art book featuring over 100 pages of high-quality artwork and backstory from Fate/EXTELLA: The Umbral Star."
I told them that this was the first time I saw that part and if it meant that we will be getting a translation of the material.
ssjokg said: "hardcover art book featuring over 100 pages of high-quality artwork and backstory from Fate/EXTELLA."
This is the first time I saw "backstory" in the description of the art book.Does that mean we get a translation of the material book of the Japanese version?
Marvelous said: Yes the art book features localised content from the Japanese art book.
Before the hype intensifies , I hope that doesnt mean "the few japanese in the artworks are translated".
preordered it... lets see what will be in the packaging
Gil is so damn savage, he chose to be a Caster just so he could mock Solomon XD
Also dialogue translations:
Caster Gilgamesh
Battle
Combat Start 1 I am busy. Do not expend too much of my time and effort.
Combat Start 2 Feel free to come at me, peon. Who knows, you may even have a chance of winning now?
Skill 1 To bind myself by using only magic is the king's magnanimity.
Skill 2 Well then... the next on the list should be...
Command Card 1 Alright, I'm using that.
Command Card 2 Well, there's that.
Command Card 3 Oh well, anything is fine.
Noble Phantasm Card Hear my voice! All embrasures, open!
Attack 1 Hm.
Attack 2 What's wrong, go ahead and do something.
Attack 3 Fire fire fire fire fire--!
Extra Attack Rejoice, mongrel! And fall in defeat!
Noble Phantasm Draw your arrows, I will permit it! Witness the defense of Uruk, this greatest and richest of cities! The deluge of the land is my will! Melammu Dingir (The King's Signal Gun)!
Damage 1 Onore!
Damage 2 Ngh!
Defeat 1 I've had enough... I'm going back.
Defeat 2 As expected... playing at being a mage... was a mistake...
Victory 1 The more tactics you have, the better. It seems that this is something you had to learn in exchange for your own life.
Victory 2 I tried pretending to be a mage, so how is it, do I look the part?
Strengthening
Level Up Good. Offer it to me, like fruits that would be offered to heaven.
Ascension 1 It's a bit easier to move around now... what are you looking at? Has the sight of my beautiful body stolen your very soul?
Ascension 2 Well then, what should I do. ...Yeah? It's nothing you know about. Just watch attentively.
Ascension 3 I see, it is this form. This happens if I manifest as a Caster. Hahahahaha!
Ascension 4 I will revise my evaluation of you, mongrel. For you, I will show my best.
My Room
Bond 1 What? Was King Gilgamesh was a mage in life? Fuhahahaha! You idiot! As if I'd be something like a mage!
Bond 2 Although it has been said during the summoning. Mongrel, I have materialized of my own will. In this form, in this class of Caster.
Bond 3 This time, all of the magic that I control comes from the countless magical staves in my vault. As long as I have my treasures, I can manage to manipulate even magic from the Age of the Gods. Of course, I do not have much experience with it.
Bond 4 I seem to have a hard time fighting... you say? That is quite something you just said, mongrel. But I'll forgive it. Let's see, I'm forcing myself to do this. Do you know the reason why?
Bond 5 Why am I putting on the pretense of being a mage, you ask? I'll tell just you. This, it's irony. You can rephrase it as mockery if you want, I mind it not. Still, in this form as it is, it's not bad at keeping away boredom.
Dialogue 1 It's a hundred years too early to take a rest. Do not bore me, mongrel.
Dialogue 2 Do get more excited, mongrel. My manifestation this time is special here and there, but there are things that still depend on you.
Dialogue 3 You seem to be my servant... then serve like you are one.
Dialogue 4 Why am I putting on the pretense of being a mage, you ask? I'll tell just you. This, it's sarcasm. You can rephrase it as mockery if you want, I mind it not. Of course, it's aimed at that mongrel who declares himself the Grand Caster. My eyes see through all of the truth about him.
Dialogue 5 Heh... this time's Ishtar seems to have improved on her stupidity just a little. No longer wholly dependent on her father, she now stands on her own feet as a lone god. Huh, perhaps it is the temperament of a girl who has lost her father at a young age that has rehabilitated the useless goddess. Fate, it truly is a well-made fabric. (When you have: Ishtar)
Dialogue 6 There is nothing I have to say to Enkidu. As I am now, bearing his death, I became the king of men that rules over Uruk. I do not have the freedom to speak to him. That was something lost to me the moment I sat upon the throne. (When you have: Enkidu)
Liked things All treasures in this world are mine. Therefore, manifesting as a Caster this way is also appropriate.
Disliked things Something I cannot stand... Let's see... for example, I cannot stand the people who invited this current situation upon us. That is why, I have appeared in this form.
Holy Grail The Holy Grail is also my possession. To the mongrels reaching out their hands, a suitable reward may be bestowed upon them.
Event Mongrel, head for the event quickly. Or do you want to be vanished by my magic staff?
Birthday It is your birthday? Hmph, like I know. No, wait. I think I do have a suitably cursed treasure lying around here somewhere.
Other
Summoning Caster, Gilgamesh. I have manifested in this form in response to Uruk's crisis. It is definitely not in answer to your summons. Do not get too attached, mongrel.
Source
Bonus
King Hassan
Battle
Skill 1 Do you hear the tolling of that bell?
Skill 2 Hand over your head!
Command Card 1 The contract is sealed.
Command Card 2 You have chosen.
Command Card 3 You have my support.
Noble Phantasm Card The oracle has descended.
Attack 1 Where...
Attack 2 Where!
Extra Attack Then die!
Noble Phantasm Listen well. The evening bell has tolled thy name. Feathers of Foreshadowed Death, behead! Azrael (Harbinger Angel of Death)!
Victory 1 There is no world where the faithless may live.
Victory 2 Futile, it is too futile...
Source
Merlin
Battle
Combat Start 1 Don't panic, don't panic. I'll bite my tongue over the incantations
Skill 1 Leave it to me. Let's clean this up like a dream.
Skill 2 Is it not better to be someone who fools around here?
Command Card 1 Hm?
Command Card 2 Sure.
Command Card 3 As you wish.
Noble Phantasm Card Let us speak of the king's tale.
Attack 1 How's this?
Extra Attack Even though it's not a gala...!
Noble Phantasm The inner sea of the planet. The observatory of the watchtower. From the edge of paradise, you shall hear my words. Your story is full of blessings. ---only the sinless shall pass. Garden of Avalon (Eternally Shut Utopia)!
Damage 1 You're pretty violent...!
Dialogue 5 Heh... this time's Ishtar seems to have improved on her stupidity just a little. No longer wholly dependent on her father, she now stands on her own feet as a lone god. Huh, perhaps it is the temperament of a girl who has lost her father at a young age that has rehabilitated the useless goddess. Fate, it truly is a well-made fabric. (When you have: Ishtar)
I don't know if i should respect the complement to Rin or hate his guts for being the reason she's fatherless.
So... just my normal love/loathe feelings towards Gil.
Dialogue 5 Heh... this time's Ishtar seems to have improved on her stupidity just a little. No longer wholly dependent on her father, she now stands on her own feet as a lone god. Huh, perhaps it is the temperament of a girl who has lost her father at a young age that has rehabilitated the useless goddess. Fate, it truly is a well-made fabric. (When you have: Ishtar)
I don't know if i should respect the complement to Rin or hate his guts for being the reason she's fatherless.
So... just my normal love/loathe feelings towards Gil.
To be fair her father was pretty trash himself and he was also planning to order Gilgamesh to kill himself with a command seal, so Gil really didn't have any other option. Plus Kirei is the main reason he's dead anyway.
astroprogs said: Well, Quetzalcoatl sure is a pain in the ass. Had her from ~700k all the way down to a post-Guts ~2k HP and she crit'd my entire backrow line-up in a single turn.
Chapter 12, 2nd fight against her I presume? You chose the top option from the looks of it. That's the hard mode. Go with the bottom option for the easy mode.
-Mahesvara said: To be fair her father was pretty trash himself and he was also planning to order Gilgamesh to kill himself with a command seal, so Gil really didn't have any other option. Plus Kirei is the main reason he's dead anyway.
Tokiomi wasn't really father of the year, but does it justify orphaning a little girl?
Also, are you telling me Gil doesn't have something akin to Rule Breaker in his treasury?
Gil didn't really "have" to do anything. Tokiomi was the man who blindly trusted Kirei, taught him magic and entrusted him with his daughter, and even if he may not be Kirei's father or wife, Gil figured that he'll do just fine for that push into Kirei's inevitable path.
I'm not saying that Kirei wouldn't have discovered his true calling if it weren't for Gil. It's just that Gil ensured that Tokiomi would be a victim of that.
astroprogs said: Well, Quetzalcoatl sure is a pain in the ass. Had her from ~700k all the way down to a post-Guts ~2k HP and she crit'd my entire backrow line-up in a single turn.
Chapter 12, 2nd fight against her I presume? You chose the top option from the looks of it. That's the hard mode. Go with the bottom option for the easy mode.
Yeah, I tried both and figured that out. I just wanted to clear the more difficult one for bragging purposes :p
Gather round friends, it's gacha story time with Gen again!
So today a fellow staff called in sick and I was asked to replace her tonight, bummer because I was really looking forward to relaxing and playing FGO at home.
Fast forward, tonight sucked, everyone was assholes and I was super depressed by it. Luckily my brother was around to keep me a little jovial (yes we work the same job).
As we closed shop I finally had time to do some rolls. I told my brother about how I wanted oneesama and if he'd like to do the honors of the first 10 roll and...
GOODBYE SHITTY DAY, HELLO BIG SISTER QUE. WOW THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF GETTING 2 (NO REALLY WHAT'S THE %?). HOWWHATWHYWTF!?!
We swiftly bought some lotto tickets straight afterwards while his luck was high af.
Today was another school day, which means waking up super early in the morning which I fking hate. I always eat a quick breakfast before going though and I took that time to boot up F/GO on my Okita account. Seeing that the Babylon Part 2 gacha was out, I thought "Why not roll just once. Only ONCE though. One ticket. And that's it."
So I did roll only once. I expected to get shit and I was fine with that because I never really cared about anything in this gacha. But the rolling animation starts. It starts spinning with a rainbow aura.
"Oh shit.. don't tell me.."
YEP. IT WAS HER.
At this point I'm dumbfounded and laughing to myself. I never really wanted her, but since the gacha was generous enough to give her to me, I gladly accepted it. Now I have a 5* rider that's also not a 5* that's part of the three knight classes which all my other 5*'s were.
Fast forward to the middle of math class. The teacher didn't really care about having our phones out, so I'm busy farming EXP cards on my Jalter account to finish leveling up all the servants that were close to max level.
In the back of my mind, I'm thinking "Well, it'd be pretty funny if I rolled Quetzalcoatl again. I think I'll roll a ticket or two just for fun."
And I did. The first ticket gave a usual shit 3* CE. "Okay," I thought. "I'll roll another ticket." This ticket showed a regular summoning animation to which I thought I was gonna get another shitty CE. It was a servant though, and I knew from the 3 rings that showed. They revealed to be a silver rider servant.
"Okay... Ushi? Medusa? What is it?" THEN, I saw it flash gold. It was TURNING GOLD.
"NO NO NO. IS THIS HAPPENING AGAIN?? ARE YOU SERIOUS?" And lo and behold,
AGAIN. TWICE I GOT HER, ON TWO SEPARATE ACCOUNTS. HUHHHH??
I'm pretty happy with this. I just hope I can keep this luck up when King Hassan comes out.
ShinsoPriest said: So, is Que good? She looks fugly to me tbh.
In short without boring you with the details?
Que is amazing for burst damage. NPBB damage is godly.
Ozy is still better because of his team synergy.
Que is pretty much the J.Alter of Riders.
It's like comparing Nero Bride with Okita. Nero is good for team support while Okita just wreck shit.
Should you roll for her? If your boner is hard for Merlin and King Hassan, skip her. Do you need a hard hitting ST Rider? Skip her if you have Ozy or you're okay with Rider Brotoki.
Do you love clumsy oneesan types, wrestling, birds, flame and shit? Try.
I've already went past getting salty when I got Ishtar so any bad rolls from me and good rolls from anyone else doesn't affect me anymore. I've already gotten most of the Servants I wanted when the game began anyways so I've somewhat reached enlightenment. Now if Ereshkigal comes though, I may snap out of it and be salty when I don't get her.
belatkuro said: I've already went past getting salty when I got Ishtar so any bad rolls from me and good rolls from anyone else doesn't affect me anymore. I've already gotten most of the Servants I wanted when the game began anyways so I've somewhat reached enlightenment. Now if Ereshkigal comes though, I may snap out of it and be salty when I don't get her.
I wish I could know this feel. Just have to wait for Arcueid. And Phantasmoon. And Archetype Earth, and Phantasmoon Eclipse, and School Outfit Arcueid, and Swimsuit Arcueid, and Neko Suit Arcueid, and Pajama Arcueid, and Altrouge, and...
-Mahesvara said: Best areas to farm pages? I need them for my Caster Gil.
I'm doing the same. (Just got 1/8)
Take Arash or any first turn aoe servant to Camelot: the 20AP quest ABOVE Ozy's pyramid. With the Archer and Caster mobs. Aoe nuke the first 3 books, if they drop a gold chest/page, finish the quest with your team. If they don't, leave and re-enter.
I dont remember what he said during the LN Banquet of Kings, but after Babylonia his lines in the anime seem to be out of pity(unlike what Rider says) for someone that tries hard for her people but cant understand them.Which results in doing a crappy job.
Add to that his lines about the two kinds of dreamers.
Imagine reactions in threads discussing who is the better king, full of people that never touched fgo, when we say Gil>others.
Does anyone actually think that Gil is the better king just after the BoK?
At least Gil's demeanour gives off a widely different impression in that scene. Add to that what he says and does in F/SN.
I think even Nasu slowly changed his vision on the character of Gil over time. Gil was never shown to be like this in the original VN sources.
pretty much
I mean in F/SN he was an arrogant prick, then he turned into an arrogant prick with motives in Zero.
(Haven't played anything else yet except for GO and am not at Babylon there, so the rest is just what I've heard)
then they focussed on the fact that he apparently knows the mysteries of the universe in extra and turned him into a great king in GO.
You guys, I'm disappointed.
Gilgamesh becoming a wise king after Enkidu's death was *always* part of his legend, of the epic of Gilgamesh.
What Andersen says about him briniging his own city to chaos in CCC still stands though, his Archer self truly represents his completely immature douchebag self after all, Enkidu's whole reason to exist was because Uruk's people were praying to the gods asking for something to be done to their king because he was completely insufferable. After Enkidu's death, Gilgamesh gets crazy and abandoned his kingdom in order to earch for immortality, when he cames back after going through character development, his kingdom is in shambles, then he begins to rebuild it..
Seriously, try reading some history before claiming that Gil's F/SN self is "retconned" or that Nasu changed Gil based on nothing or something like that. Btw @Frostbite, Gil was an "arrogant pricks with motives" even in F/SN, F/Z literary changed nothing about him.