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Oct 19, 2016 12:12 PM
#701
Crossbell said: I guess I'll claim given that my role is virtually useless. I am the Principal, Compulsive Flavor Cop. I am forced to target a player each Night and I will learn their flavor character. If I don't submit my night action, the mod chooses for me instead. I win when all Sketch aligned players have been eliminated. Okey this sounds like one of the if not THE most useless roles ever when flavouring does not matter at all in the game. If it did matter or otherwise you could pressure people into claiming character and if it's a different one then you can catch them as scum. That said in this came where it's all randomized i don't see why the host would add this to the roles. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:13 PM
#702
Crossbell said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Which is why I said "my role is virtually useless".Crossbell said: I guess I'll claim given that my role is virtually useless. I am the Principal, Compulsive Flavor Cop. I am forced to target a player each Night and I will learn their flavor character. If I don't submit my night action, the mod chooses for me instead. I win when all Sketch aligned players have been eliminated. Wait, what? flavour is completely done at random. This is weird. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:13 PM
#703
Unvote this guy has 3+ years of xp playing mafia. I expect a better fake claim if he were in fact scum. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:14 PM
#704
VC said: Crossbell (4): Soren, Milennin, aa-dono, Togs Soren (3): Arrisu, reiynii, wen294 Chione (2): coromandel, Sonata aa-dono (2): Mishukax Milennin (1): Crossbell Not Voting (2): SoulEaterQUEEN, Chione With 13 players alive, 7 votes are needed to lynch. New Deadline |
Oct 19, 2016 12:14 PM
#705
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Arrisu said: wen294 said: @Soren, i like your post (more like wall). That said it's a shame it comes only after multiple people call you out for lacking 'oomph' in your posts and getting near a lynch. Considering that and the fact that from the looks of it you made this post trying to fault crossbell as much as you can. Also i don't see why Cross would be so generous in dismissing hurtfull comment about Chione for his town read if Chione is town and not his scumbuddy. While you're scum there's no problem with saying "oh sorry i was wrong", only if Chione was a scumbuddy would it be hurtfull to admit that. I agree with wen regarding it being a shame that it only appeared last minute after so much pressure was put onto Soren. I for one don't really buy wall posts. It's easy to hid behind them. I also don't like how he only bothered posting this during the last two hours. :/ It's not helpful to town at all. In fact, it only creates chaos & confuses town even further. I am not changing my vote from Soren. Hmm, I see what you are saying on that wall post timing, but what about the points on the buddy buddy with Chione part and him not really taking a step back from it, what's your take on that? Like I said, walls give me headaches are are not reader friendly. I only skimmed the post. I don't know what to think, I'm too frustrated that Soren would wait until end of phase to do this. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:14 PM
#706
I'd imagine that my role is basically "French vanilla" - a role that has a function but in practice is basically a vanilla role. It is provable, at least. (Also compulsive flavor cop, lol. Out of all the things to stick a compulsive modifier on) |
Oct 19, 2016 12:15 PM
#707
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Unvote this guy has 3+ years of xp playing mafia. I expect a better fake claim if he were in fact scum. Feel free to come back on the Soren train, our doors are always open. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:15 PM
#709
Arrisu said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Arrisu said: wen294 said: @Soren, i like your post (more like wall). That said it's a shame it comes only after multiple people call you out for lacking 'oomph' in your posts and getting near a lynch. Considering that and the fact that from the looks of it you made this post trying to fault crossbell as much as you can. Also i don't see why Cross would be so generous in dismissing hurtfull comment about Chione for his town read if Chione is town and not his scumbuddy. While you're scum there's no problem with saying "oh sorry i was wrong", only if Chione was a scumbuddy would it be hurtfull to admit that. I agree with wen regarding it being a shame that it only appeared last minute after so much pressure was put onto Soren. I for one don't really buy wall posts. It's easy to hid behind them. I also don't like how he only bothered posting this during the last two hours. :/ It's not helpful to town at all. In fact, it only creates chaos & confuses town even further. I am not changing my vote from Soren. Hmm, I see what you are saying on that wall post timing, but what about the points on the buddy buddy with Chione part and him not really taking a step back from it, what's your take on that? Like I said, walls give me headaches are are not reader friendly. I only skimmed the post. I don't know what to think, I'm too frustrated that Soren would wait until end of phase to do this. thoughts on Cross then? |
Oct 19, 2016 12:16 PM
#710
Arrisu said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Arrisu said: wen294 said: @Soren, i like your post (more like wall). That said it's a shame it comes only after multiple people call you out for lacking 'oomph' in your posts and getting near a lynch. Considering that and the fact that from the looks of it you made this post trying to fault crossbell as much as you can. Also i don't see why Cross would be so generous in dismissing hurtfull comment about Chione for his town read if Chione is town and not his scumbuddy. While you're scum there's no problem with saying "oh sorry i was wrong", only if Chione was a scumbuddy would it be hurtfull to admit that. I agree with wen regarding it being a shame that it only appeared last minute after so much pressure was put onto Soren. I for one don't really buy wall posts. It's easy to hid behind them. I also don't like how he only bothered posting this during the last two hours. :/ It's not helpful to town at all. In fact, it only creates chaos & confuses town even further. I am not changing my vote from Soren. Hmm, I see what you are saying on that wall post timing, but what about the points on the buddy buddy with Chione part and him not really taking a step back from it, what's your take on that? Like I said, walls give me headaches are are not reader friendly. I only skimmed the post. I don't know what to think, I'm too frustrated that Soren would wait until end of phase to do this. Or maybe at least give us a forward that this was coming :\ |
Oct 19, 2016 12:18 PM
#711
wen294 said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Unvote this guy has 3+ years of xp playing mafia. I expect a better fake claim if he were in fact scum. Feel free to come back on the Soren train, our doors are always open. His timing is crap. His post is too elaborate to be scum. I need time to think. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:19 PM
#713
Crossbell said: Miles (Milennin) is actually pretty logical and reasonable. He also does not change tone or behaviour and somewhat lacks a bit of emotion when it comes to many things in my opinion (I wonder if it's because I am very emotional) so I think you should not evaluate his alignment based on just his behaviour.It doesn't, really. If you remember, you were a light town read in the previous game we played together because you were being reasonable and consistent with your views. However, I know that being reasonable is similar to your scum game, and every time I read your posts I can still see it as being within your scum range. I also can't really find reliable townie markers within your posts. That, coupled with the other strong townreads I have, makes me think that you are scum. I am not saying he can't be mafia, I personally have him on my suspect list too, but I'm just saying that comparing his play style will bring you nowhere (at least in my opinion, but of course I would like to see you try and catch him red handed ^^) |
Oct 19, 2016 12:19 PM
#714
I think I'm moving Soren to the neutral to slightly scummy pile. And this crossbell train came hella fast. Soren's walls are just too OP. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:19 PM
#715
Crossbell said: Oops, sorry wen for stealing your phrasing here. I did it subconsciously.The Millennin train is always open. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:20 PM
#716
aa-dono said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: I doubt any of them is inactive anymore :/@SoulEaterQUEEN @Crossbell @coromandel @aa-dono @Togs @Soren @wen294 @Chione @Arrisu @Sonata @Mishukax @reiynii @Milennin if you haven't already, get your bums to the game and evaluate the situation. I'm not here to play with an inactive town. I only skimmed through Soren's post. I like it because it strengthen my comfort level of seeing Crossbell lynched. But other than that, I have nothing much to offer. And he's not keen on defending himself too :/ Since Milenin changed his vote to Crossbell now, I'm the only one on reiynii's train. I don't see a point to that. Change Vote: Crossbell I need to sleep now. I kinda wanna lynch her. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:20 PM
#717
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Arrisu said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Arrisu said: wen294 said: @Soren, i like your post (more like wall). That said it's a shame it comes only after multiple people call you out for lacking 'oomph' in your posts and getting near a lynch. Considering that and the fact that from the looks of it you made this post trying to fault crossbell as much as you can. Also i don't see why Cross would be so generous in dismissing hurtfull comment about Chione for his town read if Chione is town and not his scumbuddy. While you're scum there's no problem with saying "oh sorry i was wrong", only if Chione was a scumbuddy would it be hurtfull to admit that. I agree with wen regarding it being a shame that it only appeared last minute after so much pressure was put onto Soren. I for one don't really buy wall posts. It's easy to hid behind them. I also don't like how he only bothered posting this during the last two hours. :/ It's not helpful to town at all. In fact, it only creates chaos & confuses town even further. I am not changing my vote from Soren. Hmm, I see what you are saying on that wall post timing, but what about the points on the buddy buddy with Chione part and him not really taking a step back from it, what's your take on that? Like I said, walls give me headaches are are not reader friendly. I only skimmed the post. I don't know what to think, I'm too frustrated that Soren would wait until end of phase to do this. thoughts on Cross then? He's genuine in his playstyle & I agreed with a lot of points that he made in D1. He's pressured & been helpful to town. I want to believe that he is town. Though his claim feels very bizarre. I'm not sure. I'm quite confused. It's quite frustrating how quickly people dropped their suspicions on Soren & jumped onto his train without second-guessing anything at all. It's like people dropped all of their own opinions & speculation to follow onto Cross' train. Pretty random. Oh well. As long as somebody is lynched this phase. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:20 PM
#718
But she went to bed. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:21 PM
#719
Arrisu said: It's quite frustrating how quickly people dropped their suspicions on Soren & jumped onto his train without second-guessing anything at all. It's like people dropped all of their own opinions & speculation to follow onto Cross' train. Pretty random. Pretty much. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:22 PM
#720
Chione said: I think I'm moving Soren to the neutral to slightly scummy pile. And this crossbell train came hella fast. Soren's walls are just too OP. Hmm, can I get some thoughts on why you are doing this. I feel like that wall post is so elaborate that if he knows Cross' town flip, he would be next due to how much he pushed on it. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:22 PM
#721
1 hour and 20 minutes. Unless something grand happens, this seems like a helpless no lynch day. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:23 PM
#722
wen294 said: I started writing my case about 5 hours ago, at which point there was only 3 votes on me. One from crossbell, one from alice for thinking my interaction with cross was scummy, then chione who responded to my post I made last night talking about my reads. I didn't see these other votes on me that are talking about my lack of oomph. @Soren, i like your post (more like wall). That said it's a shame it comes only after multiple people call you out for lacking 'oomph' in your posts and getting near a lynch. Considering that and the fact that from the looks of it you made this post trying to fault crossbell as much as you can. Also i don't see why Cross would be so generous in dismissing hurtfull comment about Chione for his town read if Chione is town and not his scumbuddy. While you're scum there's no problem with saying "oh sorry i was wrong", only if Chione was a scumbuddy would it be hurtfull to admit that. Are you saying that if cross and chione are scum together that it would be hurtful to chione if cross didnt dismiss those points that should make him question otherwise about his read on chione? I don't understand given you used the word hurtful here. I never mentioned anything hurtful in my case. Arrisu said: Be careful to not misrepresent the situation that I only created this case because of all this pressure on me. I started typing up this case when there was only 3 votes on me. wen294 said: @Soren, i like your post (more like wall). That said it's a shame it comes only after multiple people call you out for lacking 'oomph' in your posts and getting near a lynch. Considering that and the fact that from the looks of it you made this post trying to fault crossbell as much as you can. Also i don't see why Cross would be so generous in dismissing hurtfull comment about Chione for his town read if Chione is town and not his scumbuddy. While you're scum there's no problem with saying "oh sorry i was wrong", only if Chione was a scumbuddy would it be hurtfull to admit that. I agree with wen regarding it being a shame that it only appeared last minute after so much pressure was put onto Soren. I for one don't really buy wall posts. It's easy to hid behind them. I also don't like how he only bothered posting this during the last two hours. :/ It's not helpful to town at all. In fact, it only creates chaos & confuses town even further. I am not changing my vote from Soren. If you think it is easy to hide behind them, explain it. Because I didn't just spent 4 hours typing up a case to have it being discredited simply for the reason that "it is easy to hide behind a wall post". I understand that my case came with wrong timing considering that we have less than 2 hours in the day and it is hard to process this, but I didn't type up that case with the intention of creating chaos, nor did I expect it to take so long to gather everything up and type out my thoughts in my case. Furthermore, as you can see in the end of my case I stated that I hard more to write as I had further analysis to post but decided against it because I knew that town needed to process my case first. I've been thinking about the game for the most part today and when I saw that the deadline was extended I realized that I had time to be more productive today and make sure that we are able to come to a consensus of a lynch candidate, but it seems like it had the opposite effect with the uproar of confusion. Additionally, I don't find it to be an acceptable reason for you to leave your vote on me because you are looking at the unintentional "chaos" instead of giving your thoughts on my case. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:24 PM
#723
Arrisu said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Arrisu said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Arrisu said: wen294 said: @Soren, i like your post (more like wall). That said it's a shame it comes only after multiple people call you out for lacking 'oomph' in your posts and getting near a lynch. Considering that and the fact that from the looks of it you made this post trying to fault crossbell as much as you can. Also i don't see why Cross would be so generous in dismissing hurtfull comment about Chione for his town read if Chione is town and not his scumbuddy. While you're scum there's no problem with saying "oh sorry i was wrong", only if Chione was a scumbuddy would it be hurtfull to admit that. I agree with wen regarding it being a shame that it only appeared last minute after so much pressure was put onto Soren. I for one don't really buy wall posts. It's easy to hid behind them. I also don't like how he only bothered posting this during the last two hours. :/ It's not helpful to town at all. In fact, it only creates chaos & confuses town even further. I am not changing my vote from Soren. Hmm, I see what you are saying on that wall post timing, but what about the points on the buddy buddy with Chione part and him not really taking a step back from it, what's your take on that? Like I said, walls give me headaches are are not reader friendly. I only skimmed the post. I don't know what to think, I'm too frustrated that Soren would wait until end of phase to do this. thoughts on Cross then? He's genuine in his playstyle & I agreed with a lot of points that he made in D1. He's pressured & been helpful to town. I want to believe that he is town. Though his claim feels very bizarre. I'm not sure. I'm quite confused. It's quite frustrating how quickly people dropped their suspicions on Soren & jumped onto his train without second-guessing anything at all. It's like people dropped all of their own opinions & speculation to follow onto Cross' train. Pretty random. Oh well. As long as somebody is lynched this phase. honestly, it is going to sound so bad, but I want a lynch today. I thought Cross would react to it more but he gave up and didn't even claim then. so it's just weiiiird given I'd probably react the complete opposite. I think I believe Cross though, I feel like there is too many pieces missing for him to be actual scum. I don't want to lynch Cross today. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:24 PM
#724
I would really prefer to sort out Soren Tomorrow. I don't really think that he would make a huge wall post at direct at me if he is scum and I am town. I've made wall posts like that similar to that as scum, but I always direct them at a scumbuddy so I get town cred off the bus. If Soren makes a huge wall post like that to mislynch me, then he knows that he is in the crosshair Tomorrow. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:25 PM
#725
I'd say we lynch someone else today. Not sure if I'm buying this claim, but let's leave him alone for now. I still think Soren is town and that he was analyzing Crossbell's behavior, not "constructing" evidence. I'm wary of reiynii for jumping on Soren's train, and Milennin for jumping on Crossbell's train. Togs and dono did suspect Crossbell throughout the day, so their votes make sense imo. Everyone seems to town-read wen, but I disagree. I didn't like how he replied after Sonata's soft-claim, and his reaction to Soren's post. Same goes for Arrisu. reiynii said: coromandel said: This quote: This also applies to me. Am I not mildly worrying? :> coromandel said: Because if you were mafia, I think you would easily get rid of me, especially when I'm such a target but that might not be the biggest reason of all. I also think I have a general idea of your play style after spectating the FF game and playing with you as mafia. I think you like playing town a lot more, so you make better posts. But even if you were mafia, you wouldn't come quickly to the defense of your comrade. You voted for me and pointed fingers at me many times when we were mafia together.That is what I think, so I'm not going to vote for either reiynii nor Sonata today. To be honest, you and Mishukax are my favourite mafia (as in the game) players. *feels flattered* That's a pretty good analysis too, I do prefer playing as a townie. :3 |
Oct 19, 2016 12:25 PM
#726
Arrisu said: I can not agree more with this. I wonder if they just don't have a strong opinion about anyone.It's quite frustrating how quickly people dropped their suspicions on Soren & jumped onto his train without second-guessing anything at all. It's like people dropped all of their own opinions & speculation to follow onto Cross' train. Pretty random. Oh well. As long as somebody is lynched this phase. I read Soren's lengthy post, but it didn't really change much of my opinion about him since I decided to believe in Crossbell's initial thoughts (those of which he's since given up only to move to Miles.) |
Oct 19, 2016 12:26 PM
#727
Crossbell said: I would really prefer to sort out Soren Tomorrow. I don't really think that he would make a huge wall post at direct at me if he is scum and I am town. I've made wall posts like that similar to that as scum, but I always direct them at a scumbuddy so I get town cred off the bus. If Soren makes a huge wall post like that to mislynch me, then he knows that he is in the crosshair Tomorrow. Basically my thought pattern. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:26 PM
#728
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Chione said: I think I'm moving Soren to the neutral to slightly scummy pile. And this crossbell train came hella fast. Soren's walls are just too OP. Hmm, can I get some thoughts on why you are doing this. I feel like that wall post is so elaborate that if he knows Cross' town flip, he would be next due to how much he pushed on it. I feel like people are just stopping to suspect Soren because he posted that very detailed wall. It might be well done, however, this does NOT erase his past posts. And I think if he's scum and knows that Cross is a town flip, he doesn't have much to fear, because 1. he has confidence in his posts and people believe in confidence 2. he easily can play it down later as he wasn't the only one to be suspicious of Crossbell. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:26 PM
#729
How does everyone feel about Millennin? I am willing to be a compromise lynch if we don't agree on a lynch Today. It will make Togs useful if he is town and clear up some confusion. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:26 PM
#730
Soren said: Be careful to not misrepresent the situation that I only created this case because of all this pressure on me. I started typing up this case when there was only 3 votes on me. If you think it is easy to hide behind them, explain it. Because I didn't just spent 4 hours typing up a case to have it being discredited simply for the reason that "it is easy to hide behind a wall post". I understand that my case came with wrong timing considering that we have less than 2 hours in the day and it is hard to process this, but I didn't type up that case with the intention of creating chaos, nor did I expect it to take so long to gather everything up and type out my thoughts in my case. Furthermore, as you can see in the end of my case I stated that I hard more to write as I had further analysis to post but decided against it because I knew that town needed to process my case first. I've been thinking about the game for the most part today and when I saw that the deadline was extended I realized that I had time to be more productive today and make sure that we are able to come to a consensus of a lynch candidate, but it seems like it had the opposite effect with the uproar of confusion. Additionally, I don't find it to be an acceptable reason for you to leave your vote on me because you are looking at the unintentional "chaos" instead of giving your thoughts on my case. I can keep my vote on whoever I want, yes? You can choose for it to be acceptable or not. I don't see a reason to move my vote as of yet. If you have been active for the last 4 hours, then why couldn't you simply separate your posts by answering individually? But you instead opted for a huge wall that had no forewarning about? Meh. I don't buy it. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:29 PM
#731
Soren said: wen294 said: I started writing my case about 5 hours ago, at which point there was only 3 votes on me. One from crossbell, one from alice for thinking my interaction with cross was scummy, then chione who responded to my post I made last night talking about my reads. I didn't see these other votes on me that are talking about my lack of oomph. @Soren, i like your post (more like wall). That said it's a shame it comes only after multiple people call you out for lacking 'oomph' in your posts and getting near a lynch. Considering that and the fact that from the looks of it you made this post trying to fault crossbell as much as you can. Also i don't see why Cross would be so generous in dismissing hurtfull comment about Chione for his town read if Chione is town and not his scumbuddy. While you're scum there's no problem with saying "oh sorry i was wrong", only if Chione was a scumbuddy would it be hurtfull to admit that. Are you saying that if cross and chione are scum together that it would be hurtful to chione if cross didnt dismiss those points that should make him question otherwise about his read on chione? I don't understand given you used the word hurtful here. I never mentioned anything hurtful in my case. Arrisu said: Be careful to not misrepresent the situation that I only created this case because of all this pressure on me. I started typing up this case when there was only 3 votes on me. wen294 said: @Soren, i like your post (more like wall). That said it's a shame it comes only after multiple people call you out for lacking 'oomph' in your posts and getting near a lynch. Considering that and the fact that from the looks of it you made this post trying to fault crossbell as much as you can. Also i don't see why Cross would be so generous in dismissing hurtfull comment about Chione for his town read if Chione is town and not his scumbuddy. While you're scum there's no problem with saying "oh sorry i was wrong", only if Chione was a scumbuddy would it be hurtfull to admit that. I agree with wen regarding it being a shame that it only appeared last minute after so much pressure was put onto Soren. I for one don't really buy wall posts. It's easy to hid behind them. I also don't like how he only bothered posting this during the last two hours. :/ It's not helpful to town at all. In fact, it only creates chaos & confuses town even further. I am not changing my vote from Soren. If you think it is easy to hide behind them, explain it. Because I didn't just spent 4 hours typing up a case to have it being discredited simply for the reason that "it is easy to hide behind a wall post". I understand that my case came with wrong timing considering that we have less than 2 hours in the day and it is hard to process this, but I didn't type up that case with the intention of creating chaos, nor did I expect it to take so long to gather everything up and type out my thoughts in my case. Furthermore, as you can see in the end of my case I stated that I hard more to write as I had further analysis to post but decided against it because I knew that town needed to process my case first. I've been thinking about the game for the most part today and when I saw that the deadline was extended I realized that I had time to be more productive today and make sure that we are able to come to a consensus of a lynch candidate, but it seems like it had the opposite effect with the uproar of confusion. Additionally, I don't find it to be an acceptable reason for you to leave your vote on me because you are looking at the unintentional "chaos" instead of giving your thoughts on my case. ok, can we not get defensive on the votes on you. I want to look at other people with the little time we have left. Please don't have tunnel syndrome because I want to be productive. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:30 PM
#732
coromandel said: I'd say we lynch someone else today. Not sure if I'm buying this claim, but let's leave him alone for now. I still think Soren is town and that he was analyzing Crossbell's behavior, not "constructing" evidence. I'm wary of reiynii for jumping on Soren's train, and Milennin for jumping on Crossbell's train. Togs and dono did suspect Crossbell throughout the day, so their votes make sense imo. Everyone seems to town-read wen, but I disagree. I didn't like how he replied after Sonata's soft-claim, and his reaction to Soren's post. Same goes for Arrisu. I'm still against lynching Cross, i'm somewhat beginning to doubt my Soren vote, but i still don't think he's town. I'm fine with lynching Reiynii, as i have been the entire day. Also that last part is just because we have conflicting opinions. You say that no matter how vague, if somebody hints at something ivestigations-y it's okey to drop all charges immediatly and bury your head in the sand, i however don't. Also the fact that you don't like my or Arrisu's opinion to Soren's post is just because we don't share your opinion. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:30 PM
#733
Crossbell said: I'd imagine that my role is basically "French vanilla" - a role that has a function but in practice is basically a vanilla role. It is provable, at least. (Also compulsive flavor cop, lol. Out of all the things to stick a compulsive modifier on) Hey I said to tag me when you claimed D : < Ok thoughts on this I will say that it actually seems like a believable role.. my role is kind of similar I am also a provable french vanilla and I got trolled by Fo when I tried to ask him questions about it. So it's something I could believe is in the game. I will say though about Cross’s fakeclaiming, first off it’s been a hell of a long time since he had to do it. But I remember him choosing similarly “self-defeating” roles to fakeclaim in the past, for example in one game he famously fakeclaimed a vig who would use the pokemon move grass knot to kill a player if they were “heavy enough.” So he isn't above claiming useless roles as scum. It could be possible that he’s actually a role cop, as that would let him “prove” his role and make the fakeclaim stronger. Also since it’s in the OP that flavor does not matter it would be something safe for him to not be counterclaimed on. The “compulsive” modifier in his claim also seems like an extra detail that would be hard for him to make up. Maybe he is actually a compulsive role cop though and left that part in to make it more believable ? I will say that this is kind of giving me Tsundere madness flashbacks as he also claimed a really weak and weird looking role there and it actually turned out to be true >.> At the very least it looks like it’s between Cross and Soren right now. I think it would be prudent for @Soren to claim too. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:31 PM
#734
Arrisu said: Soren said: Be careful to not misrepresent the situation that I only created this case because of all this pressure on me. I started typing up this case when there was only 3 votes on me. If you think it is easy to hide behind them, explain it. Because I didn't just spent 4 hours typing up a case to have it being discredited simply for the reason that "it is easy to hide behind a wall post". I understand that my case came with wrong timing considering that we have less than 2 hours in the day and it is hard to process this, but I didn't type up that case with the intention of creating chaos, nor did I expect it to take so long to gather everything up and type out my thoughts in my case. Furthermore, as you can see in the end of my case I stated that I hard more to write as I had further analysis to post but decided against it because I knew that town needed to process my case first. I've been thinking about the game for the most part today and when I saw that the deadline was extended I realized that I had time to be more productive today and make sure that we are able to come to a consensus of a lynch candidate, but it seems like it had the opposite effect with the uproar of confusion. Additionally, I don't find it to be an acceptable reason for you to leave your vote on me because you are looking at the unintentional "chaos" instead of giving your thoughts on my case. I can keep my vote on whoever I want, yes? You can choose for it to be acceptable or not. I don't see a reason to move my vote as of yet. If you have been active for the last 4 hours, then why couldn't you simply separate your posts by answering individually? But you instead opted for a huge wall that had no forewarning about? Meh. I don't buy it. Why would he need to warn us before posting it? I don't get what's suspicious about a long post, really. >.> Chione said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Chione said: I think I'm moving Soren to the neutral to slightly scummy pile. And this crossbell train came hella fast. Soren's walls are just too OP. Hmm, can I get some thoughts on why you are doing this. I feel like that wall post is so elaborate that if he knows Cross' town flip, he would be next due to how much he pushed on it. I feel like people are just stopping to suspect Soren because he posted that very detailed wall. It might be well done, however, this does NOT erase his past posts. And I think if he's scum and knows that Cross is a town flip, he doesn't have much to fear, because 1. he has confidence in his posts and people believe in confidence 2. he easily can play it down later as he wasn't the only one to be suspicious of Crossbell. Hm.. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:31 PM
#735
@SoulEaterQUEEN @Crossbell @Chione @Wen294 @coromandel - Let's work together on a lynch, yes? We're all in the same boat at this point. We all just want a lynch for some information. I'm willing to lynch almost any player, quite frankly. At this point, I'm not sure who I believe anymore. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:31 PM
#736
Oct 19, 2016 12:31 PM
#737
Crossbell said: How does everyone feel about Millennin? I am willing to be a compromise lynch if we don't agree on a lynch Today. It will make Togs useful if he is town and clear up some confusion. I'm looking into him now. I didn't look very closely into his posts. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:32 PM
#738
Arrisu said: @SoulEaterQUEEN @Crossbell @Chione @Wen294 @coromandel - Let's work together on a lynch, yes? We're all in the same boat at this point. We all just want a lynch for some information. I'm willing to lynch almost any player, quite frankly. I feel like we've been walking in circles now. It's tiring. Can only agree with this. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:33 PM
#739
Arrisu said: @SoulEaterQUEEN @Crossbell @Chione @Wen294 @coromandel - Let's work together on a lynch, yes? We're all in the same boat at this point. We all just want a lynch for some information. I'm willing to lynch almost any player, quite frankly. At this point, I'm not sure who I believe anymore. Agreed. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:34 PM
#740
@coromandel - Let me rephrase: It isn't that I think wall posts are scummy. It's more of a combination of the timing & him admitting that he's been online for hours to write up this post. This makes me feel as though he was lurking instead of helping out town. I don't understand why he couldn't simply answer players individually? That would be more logical to do. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:34 PM
#741
Crossbell said: I disagree on this. As a prime town to me, I think this is a terrible idea.I am willing to be a compromise lynch if we don't agree on a lynch Today. It will make Togs useful if he is town and clear up some confusion. Although makes me wonder why you'd sacrifice yourself when in the first game I played with you, you were so opposed to getting lynched.. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:35 PM
#742
Togs said: Eyyy welcome to the club. I'm basically a vanilla townie as well. I have to get extremely lucky to get some use out of my night ability. Even if i get that lucky i'm not even sure if it'll actually prove to be usefull.my role is kind of similar I am also a provable french vanilla and I got trolled by Fo when I tried to ask him questions about it. So it's something I could believe is in the game. Arrisu said: @SoulEaterQUEEN @Crossbell @Chione @Wen294 @coromandel - Let's work together on a lynch, yes? We're all in the same boat at this point. We all just want a lynch for some information. I'm willing to lynch almost any player, quite frankly. At this point, I'm not sure who I believe anymore. I think we should vote Reiynii at this point. Edit: oh or maybe Millenin, but i prefer Reiynii as lynch candidate. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:35 PM
#743
What is interesting about the votes on Cross is that most of the people who voted for him (Soren, aa-dono, Togs, not sure about SoulEaterQUEEN, Milennin) and the ones who wanted to vote for him (coro and me) have all had suspicions on Cross before. I was considering opportunistic votes on him, but that isn't the case here at all. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:35 PM
#744
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Arrisu said: @SoulEaterQUEEN @Crossbell @Chione @Wen294 @coromandel - Let's work together on a lynch, yes? We're all in the same boat at this point. We all just want a lynch for some information. I'm willing to lynch almost any player, quite frankly. At this point, I'm not sure who I believe anymore. Agreed. Anybody in mind? @Chione - I feel the same. Same question. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:36 PM
#745
Chione said: What is interesting about the votes on Cross is that most of the people who voted for him (Soren, aa-dono, Togs, not sure about SoulEaterQUEEN, Milennin) and the ones who wanted to vote for him (coro and me) have all had suspicions on Cross before. I was considering opportunistic votes on him, but that isn't the case here at all. *expecting instead of considering. Mixed it up. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:37 PM
#746
wen294 said: Togs said: Eyyy welcome to the club. I'm basically a vanilla townie as well. I have to get extremely lucky to get some use out of my night ability. Even if i get that lucky i'm not even sure if it'll actually prove to be usefull.my role is kind of similar I am also a provable french vanilla and I got trolled by Fo when I tried to ask him questions about it. So it's something I could believe is in the game. Well this almost proves Cross. Currently there are two people backing up his reasoning as french vanilla character. Hm. |
Oct 19, 2016 12:38 PM
#747
wen294 said: coromandel said: I'd say we lynch someone else today. Not sure if I'm buying this claim, but let's leave him alone for now. I still think Soren is town and that he was analyzing Crossbell's behavior, not "constructing" evidence. I'm wary of reiynii for jumping on Soren's train, and Milennin for jumping on Crossbell's train. Togs and dono did suspect Crossbell throughout the day, so their votes make sense imo. Everyone seems to town-read wen, but I disagree. I didn't like how he replied after Sonata's soft-claim, and his reaction to Soren's post. Same goes for Arrisu. I'm still against lynching Cross, i'm somewhat beginning to doubt my Soren vote, but i still don't think he's town. I'm fine with lynching Reiynii, as i have been the entire day. Also that last part is just because we have conflicting opinions. You say that no matter how vague, if somebody hints at something ivestigations-y it's okey to drop all charges immediatly and bury your head in the sand, i however don't. Also the fact that you don't like my or Arrisu's opinion to Soren's post is just because we don't share your opinion. That too, but I also don't like the tone of your posts, it's like you're trying to frame him. How is it scummy that he posted 2 hours before phase change? Would 3 hours have been fine, or not? wen294 said: @Soren, i like your post (more like wall). That said it's a shame it comes only after multiple people call you out for lacking 'oomph' in your posts and getting near a lynch. Considering that and the fact that from the looks of it you made this post trying to fault crossbell as much as you can. Also i don't see why Cross would be so generous in dismissing hurtfull comment about Chione for his town read if Chione is town and not his scumbuddy. While you're scum there's no problem with saying "oh sorry i was wrong", only if Chione was a scumbuddy would it be hurtfull to admit that. Arrisu said: wen294 said: @Soren, i like your post (more like wall). That said it's a shame it comes only after multiple people call you out for lacking 'oomph' in your posts and getting near a lynch. Considering that and the fact that from the looks of it you made this post trying to fault crossbell as much as you can. Also i don't see why Cross would be so generous in dismissing hurtfull comment about Chione for his town read if Chione is town and not his scumbuddy. While you're scum there's no problem with saying "oh sorry i was wrong", only if Chione was a scumbuddy would it be hurtfull to admit that. I agree with wen regarding it being a shame that it only appeared last minute after so much pressure was put onto Soren. I for one don't really buy wall posts. It's easy to hid behind them. I also don't like how he only bothered posting this during the last two hours. :/ It's not helpful to town at all. In fact, it only creates chaos & confuses town even further. I am not changing my vote from Soren. Although I find Arrisu's post much worse than yours. How can a long post where you're explaining your read *not* be helpful to town? o.0 Yeah, I don't like Arrisu's post at all. Vote Change: Arrisu |
Oct 19, 2016 12:39 PM
#749
Arrisu said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Arrisu said: @SoulEaterQUEEN @Crossbell @Chione @Wen294 @coromandel - Let's work together on a lynch, yes? We're all in the same boat at this point. We all just want a lynch for some information. I'm willing to lynch almost any player, quite frankly. At this point, I'm not sure who I believe anymore. Agreed. Anybody in mind? @Chione - I feel the same. Same question. Well, my first choice earlier was dono. She hasn't impressed me much with the content she has been putting out there. I feel like her jump to Crossbell was a bit rough on the edges BUT she has brought up the scum read on him earlier on the phase even though I felt like that point wasn't fully developed yet. But when I bring her name up, I just get a lot of "I'm not comfortable" vibe. The fact she is in bed right now feels incredibly dirty lynching her as well. Crossbell brings up Milennin. I haven't payed as close attention to them recently so I am going to do a speedy read through their posts. Your thoughts? |
Oct 19, 2016 12:39 PM
#750
Arrisu said: @SoulEaterQUEEN @Crossbell @Chione @Wen294 @coromandel - Let's work together on a lynch, yes? We're all in the same boat at this point. We all just want a lynch for some information. I'm willing to lynch almost any player, quite frankly. At this point, I'm not sure who I believe anymore. No, I don't just want a lynch for info. I want to lynch scum. |
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