| I won't help either, yes. Cuz lol: help town - get killed by mafia, help mafia - get killed by town. nya |
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Shadowsnake777 said: How the hell would I know that there is another survivor LOLi'm not surprised because there are things that hosts change in games. I'm thinking that there ARE 2 survivors....This happens a lot in town of salem when two people are given the same role.Of course I could be wrong and Willow is actually claiming straight away to get the trust of the town and kill the actual survivor which could also be another strategy... I'm not lying. My abilities are all related to my character...I think that everyones are as well SO! Who knowledgeable in Izaya and can look at her abilites? I will explain my abilities more after I finish reading. nya. |
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greenwillow said: Shadowsnake777 said: How the hell would I know that there is another survivor LOLi'm not surprised because there are things that hosts change in games. I'm thinking that there ARE 2 survivors....This happens a lot in town of salem when two people are given the same role.Of course I could be wrong and Willow is actually claiming straight away to get the trust of the town and kill the actual survivor which could also be another strategy... I'm not lying. My abilities are all related to my character...I think that everyones are as well SO! Who knowledgeable in Izaya and can look at her abilites? I will explain my abilities more after I finish reading. nya. I meant if you were mafia. Mafia claims survivor, they don't have to know whether or not there is one because since you claimed first you have the most trust |
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Mishukax said: Sigh... You really didn't even check any of those two links did you?... I claimed survivor at the very beginning in both games.Also I thought about it and I don't buy greenwillow's claim. I agree with Zombie. Maybe willow was trying a new formula by claiming day 1 (she's been survivor before, from what I understand), but that's unlikely considering she won without claiming before. Vote change: greenwillow I was expecting to keep my vote on reiynii since as Shinichi knows, I'm not the most agressive day 1 player, but going for willow just makes more sense to me right now. I really want to see willow flip. As I said before, I wanted experiment and not claim this game and see how it goes, but seeing how silent everyone were it was just too nerve-wracking. nya. |
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Lord_Sithis said: I wouldn't claim if I was mafia, I wouldn't be able to deal with so much attention if I was baddie o.OI was just thinking about this while reading the thread. Most people kind of trusted in willow's claim, without any proof, just her claim. If everyone expects her to not be a danger since she's independent and only needs to stay alive... and she turns out to be a mafia... nya. |
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greenwillow said: Sigh... You really didn't even check any of those two links did you? Nope, I didn't! Teehee. My bad. |
grrr said: Despite all the nya's I agree. I'd rather go for someone new than 2 people who have already claimed.I think it is clair nya. Claire always lies nya. Sometimes you trust claire and later regret it nya. I remember losing a game becasue I trusted claire nya. The sooner we get rid of claire the better nya. She lies about her abilities and then she kills you nya. I think she will kill denja tonight nya. Why denja clair, nya? Denja is innocent child , how dare you kill him, nya. Claire you need to stop this nya. I will not tolerate this behavior anymore claire, nya. You just want to see the world burn, nya. I can give even more reasoning nya. This is enough for now though nya. Lets just lynch claire and get over with it, nya. Vote: claire Vote Lynch: _Claire_ I'm at page 10, so still backreading... |
| "It wouldn't hurt" you say. Wasting a lynch or a kill on a survivor does hurt ya, except if you are tpr lol nya. |
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greenwillow said: "It wouldn't hurt" you say. Wasting a lynch or a kill on a survivor does hurt ya, except if you are tpr lol nya. What's TPR, nya? Isn't it Townsperson? |
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hlanden said: Context of why a lot of people are saying nya? Pretty much I went on a gambling spree where i'd verse them in battleship...They all lost :3 Aaaaalthough some of them are just playing along |
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hlanden said: Misinterpretation buuuuuuu!!I'm not putting any blame on anyone but I think this is a reasonable enough thing to do in this scenario. Snake claims to have an ability that might be well used in the future, while willow was just trying to claim early because of the investigation pressure. Then I have to change my vote to somebody, and that somebody act's suspicious enough imo, while having a chance to save the survivors (I actually buy both claims right now) I didn't even think about investigative roles actually : D I claimed because: 1) You were all boring and there was no talk going on. 2) It is the best way for survivor to claim early on. That benefits me and others if players are understanding, because they have less people to think about and can actually look for mafia or PR and not squander these oppurtunities. nya. |
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| What a hectic Day 1! Shinichi-Kun said: Izaya is definitely a survivor type! He is like the incarnation of selfishness and non-alignment.greenwillow said: Sure. I am Izaya. Honestly I don't buy this, izaya isn't a survivor type. I'm more inclinded to believe hes a converter or a serial killer. reiynii said: He also didn't have any reason to counterclaim though. Remember, he is 3rd party, so why would he risk his own life just to counterclaim which is only beneficial to town?aa-dono said: Exactly! He was quite active after greenwillow claimed Survivor, so why didn't he counter claim her? It's unlikely for both parties to attack the neutral (unless they sense danger) so he had no reason to keep his role hidden.Reason: He saw willow's claim before his, he doesn't seem to be alarmed by it. Rinto-kun said: People also need to remember that we can all track which roles target which player at night. So knowing their roles is a great help to! If they target someone they shouldn't, we lynch them.Gonna go with Change Vote: Claire If she's really survivor, it wouldn't hurt our chances that much. + We can use shadowsnake's rewind ability to see if it works and he's a confirmed town. Case 2: One mafia down, shadowsnake's claim is confirmed and either way he'd be a target of the mafia. I think this is the best scenario. _Claire_ said: More claims :O!? I'm not complaining, I just have a hard time keeping up with all these claims. I need to make a list of them during the night >.>If you lynch me, you just lose your vigilante. :) |
| So Shadowsnake claims to have a 1-shot vote manipulation ability, + he can revive someone, + he's third party (neutral, as he says). Greenwillow is a Survivor. That's all she's really revealed about herself, if I'm not mistaken. Both claim that their win condition is to survive - benign 3rd party roles. Tbh, Shadow's claim (all three things in combination) sounds kind of fake to me. But also, if he was scum, wouldn't he try to come up with something more believable? >.> He does seem scummy to me, but we could let him prove that he's a Reviver. I'm buying Willow's claim. Because anyone can now just roleblock her and see what happens - she put herself in this position, without being pressured. That makes me doubt she's mafia or an evil 3rd party role. Rinto-kun said: greenwillow said: "It wouldn't hurt" you say. Wasting a lynch or a kill on a survivor does hurt ya, except if you are tpr lol nya. What's TPR, nya? Isn't it Townsperson? third party role |
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DenjaX said: Why should we waste a revive on a survivor >.>How about this? we lynch greenwillow today and if willow is survivor, Shadowsnake should revive her? I'd much rather lynch a player who claims vigilante but might actually by just another killing role (aka Claire) and then revive that player. |
Zymf said: It should've come out of his own mouth not yours. If that was what went through his mind reading willow's role claim post, he would've explained it the many times I and everyone else asked.reiynii said: He also didn't have any reason to counterclaim though. Remember, he is 3rd party, so why would he risk his own life just to counterclaim which is only beneficial to town?Exactly! He was quite active after greenwillow claimed Survivor, so why didn't he counter claim her? It's unlikely for both parties to attack the neutral (unless they sense danger) so he had no reason to keep his role hidden. Again I'm sorry if he did and I didn't see it. If so, can someone refer me? |
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Lord_Sithis said: coromandel said: You're buying willow's claim because someone can roleblock her? Wut? Care to explain?So Shadowsnake claims to have a 1-shot vote manipulation ability, + he can revive someone, + he's third party (neutral, as he says). Greenwillow is a Survivor. That's all she's really revealed about herself, if I'm not mistaken. Both claim that their win condition is to survive - benign 3rd party roles. Tbh, Shadow's claim (all three things in combination) sounds kind of fake to me. But also, if he was scum, wouldn't he try to come up with something more believable? >.> He does seem scummy to me, but we could let him prove that he's a Reviver. I'm buying Willow's claim. Because anyone can now just roleblock her and see what happens - she put herself in this position, without being pressured. That makes me doubt she's mafia or an evil 3rd party role. third party role If she was mafia or an evil third party role, then she wouldn't want all this attention. Because attention = people could watch her, roleblock her etc. during the night. And if you're scum you probably don't want others to interfere with your night action and will try not to attract so much attention. So what I was trying to say is that she claimed way before anyone even glanced at her. And now people suspect her and she's close to being lynched. I find it hard to believe scum would put a claim out there like that. It's different with Shadowsnake, because he claimed after people started to suspect him. |
reiynii said: Ehh, I tried to explain..DenjaX said: But greenwillow never explained her abilities or even gave us any slight idea except for that she's a Survivor and her character is Izaya. We don't know whether lynching her instead of him would cause us to lose a potential town supporter.Let Shadowsnake live. We can prove his role by making him revive town. If not, I will have snake for dinner. And snake tastes gud. Also, why would anyone vote for Claire? She was not rolefishing or accusing anyone of anything, she was merely asking questions to the 2 most suspicious players at the time. Ok look: 1) Each night I can choose to get random information about what happened during the night AND I can put that information for a sale. There are few more thingies that I want to confirm with host tho, about how it works, but I'll do that later. 2) Before each day (except 1st) I must to write up some annoying message just for annoying purpouses :| (this ability doesn't make sence to me lol) 3) I have bulletproof and lynchproof abilities. So sweeties you can waste lynches and kills on me multiple times ;) nya. |
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coromandel said: Lord_Sithis said: You're buying willow's claim because someone can roleblock her? Wut? Care to explain? If she was mafia or an evil third party role, then she wouldn't want all this attention. Because attention = people could watch her, roleblock her etc. during the night. And if you're scum you probably don't want others to interfere with your night action and will try not to attract so much attention. So what I was trying to say is that she claimed way before anyone even glanced at her. And now people suspect her and she's close to being lynched. I find it hard to believe scum would put a claim out there like that. It's different with Shadowsnake, because he claimed after people started to suspect him. You're way of thinking can also be turned around however. You would think that but several mafia have actually done what Willow has done before...i don't like claiming day 1...The only time I would ever claim would be to save myself or when i have substantial evidence that needs backing from role |
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greenwillow said: Ehh, I tried to explain.. Ok look: 1) Each night I can choose to get random information about what happened during the night AND I can put that information for a sale. There are few more thingies that I want to confirm with host tho, about how it works, but I'll do that later. 2) Before each day (except 1st) I must to write up some annoying message just for annoying purpouses :| (this ability doesn't make sence to me lol) 3) I have bulletproof and lynchproof abilities. So sweeties you can waste lynches and kills on me multiple times ;) nya.  Lynchproof gais. xDD |
| That final ability seems WAY to OP...You can't die? Like, at all? That's kind of stupid |
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| @Shadowsnake777 What happens to the player you're reviving? Does his alignment change? greenwillow said: reiynii said: Ehh, I tried to explain..But greenwillow never explained her abilities or even gave us any slight idea except for that she's a Survivor and her character is Izaya. We don't know whether lynching her instead of him would cause us to lose a potential town supporter. Also, why would anyone vote for Claire? She was not rolefishing or accusing anyone of anything, she was merely asking questions to the 2 most suspicious players at the time. Ok look: 1) Each night I can choose to get random information about what happened during the night AND I can put that information for a sale. There are few more thingies that I want to confirm with host tho, about how it works, but I'll do that later. 2) Before each day (except 1st) I must to write up some annoying message just for annoying purpouses :| (this ability doesn't make sence to me lol) 3) I have bulletproof and lynchproof abilities. So sweeties you can waste lynches and kills on me multiple times ;) nya. This sounds legit to me. And definitely not evil. |
coromandel said: @Shadowsnake777 What happens to the player you're reviving? Does his alignment change? greenwillow said: Ehh, I tried to explain.. Ok look: 1) Each night I can choose to get random information about what happened during the night AND I can put that information for a sale. There are few more thingies that I want to confirm with host tho, about how it works, but I'll do that later. 2) Before each day (except 1st) I must to write up some annoying message just for annoying purpouses :| (this ability doesn't make sence to me lol) 3) I have bulletproof and lynchproof abilities. So sweeties you can waste lynches and kills on me multiple times ;) nya. This sounds legit to me. And definitely not evil. I've already said that I don't know what the ability does. I've explained that it COULD be revive or it could be something that gives someones one shots back or something....My ability returns them to their original state |
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greenwillow said: I have been trying to save you the entire time, but nobody is listening to me. The reason I wrote the post you are replying to is so that people know just because you didn't tell us your abilities, doesn't mean you don't have any.Ehh, I tried to explain.. Ok look: 1) Each night I can choose to get random information about what happened during the night AND I can put that information for a sale. There are few more thingies that I want to confirm with host tho, about how it works, but I'll do that later. 2) Before each day (except 1st) I must to write up some annoying message just for annoying purpouses :| (this ability doesn't make sence to me lol) 3) I have bulletproof and lynchproof abilities. So sweeties you can waste lynches and kills on me multiple times ;) nya. |
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| Vote Count 1-6 greenwillow (5) - talonbone, Tsukikoxchan, Zombiewolf2508, Mishukax, Rinto-kun Shadowsnake777 (4) - coromandel, _claire_, Reiynii, aa-dono _claire_ (4) - DenjaX, grrr, hlanden, Zymf ZombieWolf2508 (2) - Lamby, Karote reiynii (1) - Lord_Sithis DenjaX (1) - NodokaLaMei Tsukikoxchan (1) - greenwillow Mkim (1) - Nelsonma11355 grrr (1) - Holocaster SightlessReality (1) - SightlessReality 1. greenwillow > Tsukikoxchan 2. Nelsonma11355 > Mkim 3. Reiynii > Mishukax > Shadowsnake777 4. Shinichi-kun > SightlessReality > Unvote 5. Mkim 6. aa-dono > greenwillow > _claire_ > Shadowsnake777 7. Shadowsnake777 8. Karote > Shadowsnake777 > greenwillow > _claire_ > Unvote > Zombiewolf2508 9. Rinto-kun > Mkim > Shadowsnake777 > _claire_ > greenwillow 10. NodokaLaMei > DenjaX 11. Lamby > DenjaX > ZombieWolf2508 12. ZombieWolf2508 > Greenwillow 13. Zymf > coromandel > Shadowsnake777 > Unvote > Shadowsnake777 > _Claire_ 14. Tsukikoxchan > greenwillow 15. DenjaX > _claire_ 16. Lord_Sithis > 4eiynii 17. grrr > Shadowsnake777 > _claire_ 18. Mishukax > reiynii > greenwillow 19. talonbone > greenwillow 20. magicalofmagic 21. Holocaster > grrr 22. coromandel > Shadowsnake777 23. hlanden > Shadowsnake777 > _claire_ 24. SightlessReality > SightlessReality 25. Eruza-chan (looking for replacement) 26. _claire_ > Mkim > Shadowsnake777 Not Voting Mkim, Shadowsnake777, @magicalofmagic Day Phase 01 Timer |
greenwillow said: Were are gonna lynch you if you are not helpful to town.I won't help either, yes. Cuz lol: help town - get killed by mafia, help mafia - get killed by town. nya The mafia is only gonna kill you if you are VERY helpful to town. So your best option is to at least be somewhat helpful to town. Mishukax said: True. If there is a roleblocker, they will roleblock him for sure. But I actually think it's quite likely that Claire might actually be scum. Vigilante would be the obvious claim for any scum, because both are killing roles, in which case we don't need to revive.Yup @Zymf that sounds good. The problem we have is that we're only 1% sure the revive will go through. Which is unpleasant. Also, we can track who Shadowsnake targets and we can track who targets Shadowsnake which is great information to gain. Rules said: When performing your action on a target, your role and the player's name will be displayed on the write up, whether it succeeds or fails. Example: -Nathan Drake used [Treasure Hunter] on Kaitou (or "and failed." if the ability failed.) To clarify, the first name will always be a role's name while the target will always be the player/target's username. |
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Shadowsnake777 said: I'm sure there are other abilities to counter it. Don't forget that this is a bastard setup game, anything is possible.That final ability seems WAY to OP...You can't die? Like, at all? That's kind of stupid |
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hlanden said: U can't really say "in other games" cuz I played with Claire only once :?Well, just because she suspects greenwillow because she doesn't want to claim in other games, can't I suspect her for generally not doing something too common for once, in order to try and take over the town? I don't think my logic is any more flawed than why she is doubting willow to be lying... nya |
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DenjaX said: You people don't read or what </3 I can confirm all 3 of my abilities :PIf willow has no other abilities besides bulletproof, that means that he is an anomaly. We have no ways to confirm his role. So in this case between shadowsnake and greenwillow, I'd rather keep shadowsnake unless greenwillow also have another ability to disclose. |
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Shadowsnake777 said: I didn't say that I can't dieThat final ability seems WAY to OP...You can't die? Like, at all? That's kind of stupid nya |
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greenwillow said: I posted that before you revealed your abilities. you wot?You people don't read or what </3 I can confirm all 3 of my abilities :P So you are an Independent Godfather Miller Spy with bulletproof and leenchproof abilities. xDD Got it. |
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Lord_Sithis said: coromandel said: Probably. Well, we don't know if she has an ability or something, she might just be "survive and you win".If she was mafia or an evil third party role, then she wouldn't want all this attention. Because attention = people could watch her, roleblock her etc. during the night. And if you're scum you probably don't want others to interfere with your night action and will try not to attract so much attention. So what I was trying to say is that she claimed way before anyone even glanced at her. And now people suspect her and she's close to being lynched. I find it hard to believe scum would put a claim out there like that. It's different with Shadowsnake, because he claimed after people started to suspect him. She claimed because she didn't care, to be clean of suspicion, because according to her none of the factions gain anything by killing her. Of course, the mafia gain something: one less player. So that''s wrong and suspicious. What do you think of Claire's and Shadowsnake's claims? |
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