Shinichi-Kun said: Because Lucians brought up great points about Mishu, and I dont trust the Conq train espically now that Mishu joined it. which points did you like? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Because Lucians brought up great points about Mishu, and I dont trust the Conq train espically now that Mishu joined it. Can you link me the points about Mishu? |
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Karote said: I doubt scum would do something like this too, Risky & brings attention and it benefits town more than them. Don't assume that scum won't do something, always keep an eye on every possibility. Anton has known to say weird things and come up with weird plans regardless of alignment. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Karote said: I doubt scum would do something like this too, Risky & brings attention and it benefits town more than them. Don't assume that scum won't do something, always keep an eye on every possibility. Anton has known to say weird things and come up with weird plans regardless of alignment. eeeehhh this is what I said more or less >.> <.< so do you suspect him or no? what's your read on him? |
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Karote said: Shinichi-Kun said: Because Lucians brought up great points about Mishu, and I dont trust the Conq train espically now that Mishu joined it. Can you link me the points about Mishu? SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: Because Lucians brought up great points about Mishu, and I dont trust the Conq train espically now that Mishu joined it. which points did you like? Give me a few to gather up the points |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: Don't assume that scum won't do something, always keep an eye on every possibility. Anton has known to say weird things and come up with weird plans regardless of alignment. eeeehhh this is what I said more or less >.> <.< so do you suspect him or no? what's your read on him? sorry i posted this before i refreshed the page. I'm leaning towards him being a scummy role prob 3rd party tho atleast for npow. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Zuhra said: This, to explain his vote, plus this which is in line with his usual fake claim tendency. Should I buy this? Hmm... Do you really think Karote is scum? Why exactly are you targeting him out of other players? I like this question, and want to hear more. I have thoughts to this, and I will explain it after grrr says his own reasoning. Alright, here's my thought pattern. I think grrr did this to role fish, to force Karote to claim essentially. Role fish given that both cop/doc are dead means we have limited options for "stronger PRs", so this stinks of scum intent. But this is grrr we are dealing with so I'm going to have to sit back and think about this one some more before the final lynch. |
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Mishukax said: However! I also think Karote is mafia, because I have a reaaaally hard time believing his claim. Has Lucian ever voted for Karote and vice-versa? Will have to check on that. I hardly see them being mafia together, so it'd have to be only one of them for me. To give a clear opinion, I think Karote is mafia. Points out he suspects Karote yet has still not put a vote on him. Mishukax said: Karote said: thereapersedge isn't here and we've 27 minutes left. I don't care. I don't want my vote to hold any weight. Want me to follow you or something? He says this but then hes just blaintly agreeing and following everyone around. Mishukax said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Hmm, will you be leaving a vote as a present before you go? I think you should. I could. Will be able to change it anyway later on, if needed. I'm gonna go with TheConquerer, but that new shot against grrr is interesting. The guy's not online though, so I can't know more. Vote: TheConquerer Not sure where is actual reasons were here i mean he like the shot at grrr but chose to vote conq in his post. Mishukax said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: What do you think of theConquerer whose leading in in votes atm? Or another active player Kaito (Shinichi-Kun)? I can say I agree with this: Didn't even provide input he just agreed. LucianRoy said: Does anyone not have any qualms about how Mishu gave zero previous indication they even read Conq as scum, and voted them for the hell of it? You guys gotta be kidding me. That was the worst maneuver onto a train I've ever seen. Again he's just following other's leads. Not sure why he's not following his own reads and just sheeping everything else people say, if he was a seriously town aligned I think he put a little more effort into his own opinion. The one time he even did a useful post it was just to OMGUS point fingers a lucian. |
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Karote said: pls D: What kind of 3rd party has one shot poison ability with person dying 2 phases later. I don't know if there's such thing as my role but this is role madness, you can't be too sure. so this is your final claim, 1 shot poisoner? |
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LucianRoy said: Grr is my pocket-town tbfh. Leaning more towards him being some kind of 3rd party, but thats just me i guess. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Mishukax said: However! I also think Karote is mafia, because I have a reaaaally hard time believing his claim. Has Lucian ever voted for Karote and vice-versa? Will have to check on that. I hardly see them being mafia together, so it'd have to be only one of them for me. To give a clear opinion, I think Karote is mafia. Points out he suspects Karote yet has still not put a vote on him. Mishukax said: I don't care. I don't want my vote to hold any weight. Want me to follow you or something? He says this but then hes just blaintly agreeing and following everyone around. Mishukax said: I could. Will be able to change it anyway later on, if needed. I'm gonna go with TheConquerer, but that new shot against grrr is interesting. The guy's not online though, so I can't know more. Vote: TheConquerer Not sure where is actual reasons were here i mean he like the shot at grrr but chose to vote conq in his post. Didn't even provide input he just agreed. LucianRoy said: Does anyone not have any qualms about how Mishu gave zero previous indication they even read Conq as scum, and voted them for the hell of it? You guys gotta be kidding me. That was the worst maneuver onto a train I've ever seen. Again he's just following other's leads. Not sure why he's not following his own reads and just sheeping everything else people say, if he was a seriously town aligned I think he put a little more effort into his own opinion. The one time he even did a useful post it was just to OMGUS point fingers a lucian. hmm, how many votes does he have at the moment? I wonder if he will role claim early...? |
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| vote count please? |
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shadroxx2810 said: Vote Count ★ 3.6 TheConquerer (3) // Karote, alxh94, Mishukax, Magicalofmagic (1) // TheConquerer LucianRoy (1) // Blaze Grrr (2) // SoulEaterQUEEN, Zuhra Mishukax (3) // LucianRoy, Grrr,Shinichi-Kun Alxh94 (1) // SightlessReality Not voting // thereapersedge, magicalofmagic, Juzzywuzzy › Timer ‹ |
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shadroxx2810 said: shadroxx2810 said: Vote Count ★ 3.6 TheConquerer (3) // Karote, alxh94, Mishukax, Magicalofmagic (1) // TheConquerer LucianRoy (1) // Blaze Grrr (2) // SoulEaterQUEEN, Zuhra Mishukax (3) // LucianRoy, Grrr,Shinichi-Kun Alxh94 (1) // SightlessReality Not voting // thereapersedge, magicalofmagic, Juzzywuzzy › Timer ‹ That tie. lol, guess I gotta budge from my vote |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: grrr said: Grrr's claim thingie: no_chode_name | Ein [Secret Voter] [died Night 2] indipindy16 | Michiko Malandro [Miller Doctor] [died Day 2] Hall0R | Koko Hekmatyar [Inventor] [died Day 1] SightlessReality LucianRoy - asked for protection alxh94 - tracker thereapersedge - SoulEaterQUEEN Zymf - so that explains where did Zymf go. grrr - Kirika Yuumura TheConquerer - magicalofmagic - Zuhra - Karote - poisoner (Matako "Red Bullet" Kijima) Blaze Mishukax Shinichi-kun youjuzz alx isn't a tracker by the way, he's a cheater right... And you weren't so online. It was me, lucian, Conautiroriar and Karote. I believe lucian is town so I selected one of the other too. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Lucian's Case Against Mishu I find it funny that I haven't (and I won't even try). To read a single line from this thing. It is too long : D. |
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grrr said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Lucian's Case Against Mishu I find it funny that I haven't (and I won't even try). To read a single line from this thing. It is too long : D. oh so you sheep Lucian, or you do you have your own reads? |
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I can't call it a tie given that conqrererer can always change his vote. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Karote said: pls D: What kind of 3rd party has one shot poison ability with person dying 2 phases later. I don't know if there's such thing as my role but this is role madness, you can't be too sure. so this is your final claim, 1 shot poisoner? Yes? |
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depends on how reliable he is. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: grrr said: I find it funny that I haven't (and I won't even try). To read a single line from this thing. It is too long : D. oh so you sheep Lucian, or you do you have your own reads? You know, when I cam online day 1 and I saw Zymf close to dying I tried my best to save him because I like playing with Zymf. Now I regret my decision : D. My reads: |
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| vote: Mishu I think theConquerer has a strange playstyle, but I'm leaning him towards town. I don't like how his train built up. Lucian brought some interesting points on Mishu, but some I disagree with what he said on , on how NKA can be seen as scummy reasoning - to me it is null, just depends how much time is spent on it. But I do not like Mishu's vote on theConquerer, tbh. I am intrigued if this vote will get him to actually claim like he said he would. |
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Honestly what are we going to do with karote? we should force him to poison someone we decide, instead of waiting for a neutral role to die so he can use the chance to say "I poisoned the neutral role. I thought it was mafia". |
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grrr said: You know, when I cam online day 1 and I saw Zymf close to dying I tried my best to save him because I like playing with Zymf. Now I regret my decision : D. My reads: teehee <3 |
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grrr said: Honestly what are we going to do with karote? we should force him to poison someone we decide, instead of waiting for a neutral role to die so he can use the chance to say "I poisoned the neutral role. I thought it was mafia". ehhh do you volunteer as tribute??? :p |
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grrr said: Zuhra said: Do you really think Karote is scum? Why exactly are you targeting him out of other players? Because he was online. And I didn't want to accuse someone who might not even show up today. Just this? This your reason? I'ms sorry but that's kinda lame, isn't it? And the strange thing is you actually asked why town didn't trust you and joined you in your attempt to slay Karote. We could give a long answer to that question, but turned out you answered it yourself. SoulEaterQUEEN said: Zuhra said: They are both good at coming up with arguments to support their suspicion against the other, though I feel both may blow their arguments to a bigger proportion. In worst situation I fear these are townies flinging mud at each other, and Lucy being the more eager of the two to strangle Mishu while Mishu is more wary that he chooses to vote Conq instead (though why?). Mishu's wariness doesn't go against his approach of wanting lynch but not wanting to vote though. But I admit to wanting to see a showdown because it seems fun heuheuheu <--then someone lynches me for voicing out my evil thought. But you can't admit it doesn't sound fun, right? I wanted a showdown. So I take it that you read both as town from this post? At the time I wrote the post, I was inclined to think both of them were town (with Lucy as a possible third party maybe). But I have thought again and something really was strange with Mishu's vote, in that he didn't vote for either of his suspect. I saw that his disinclination to vote Lucy as in line with him not wanting to vote on Day 1 yet wanting a lynch - he was wary and too careful. But he didn't vote on Karote either even though he said Karote could be scummy, and that disturbed me. Now my read is Lucy town with slight 3rd party inclination and Mishu as rather scummy but still townish. |
Well if I have to be honest, I prefer if we discuss who should be the one poisoned and we decide that to be me, over Karote revenge poisoning me for I forced him to make a claim. And then he will get away from it just fine because most of you want me dead anyway : D. |
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Karote said: Why are you 90% sure either of us is scum .. And let me off so easily once saw my claim while others doubt me for it. Are you trying to make me seem I'm scumbuddy with you or smth. It was a joke, either you or grrr are scum, a 90% possibility is as good as calling you scum. I didnt vote you because I still dont know if its grr or you, Im gonna read through what I missed and see. |
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Zuhra said: grrr said: Because he was online. And I didn't want to accuse someone who might not even show up today. Just this? This your reason? I'ms sorry but that's kinda lame, isn't it? And the strange thing is you actually asked why town didn't trust you and joined you in your attempt to slay Karote. We could give a long answer to that question, but turned out you answered it yourself. At the time I wrote the post, I was inclined to think both of them were town (with Lucy as a possible third party maybe). But I have thought again and something really was strange with Mishu's vote, in that he didn't vote for either of his suspect. I saw that his disinclination to vote Lucy as in line with him not wanting to vote on Day 1 yet wanting a lynch - he was wary and too careful. But he didn't vote on Karote either even though he said Karote could be scummy, and that disturbed me. Now my read is Lucy town with slight 3rd party inclination and Mishu as rather scummy but still townish. interesting reads, I mean I am pretty sure I put Mishu as a null wall for my reads, and still don't get what their hesitation is about - inconfident townie from mislynches, or scum being afraid of the spot light? though like, I see not wanting to lynch day 1 more on the null side (even though I still disagree with it but like you said before this is an old argument/waste of time), but for scum not wanting to lynch someone whose probably town, and to openly wuss out on lynching just brings more attention - so kind of why I didn't see this as a scum intended move. but ehhh null wall reads can be *anything* |
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TheConquerer said: Karote said: Why are you 90% sure either of us is scum .. And let me off so easily once saw my claim while others doubt me for it. Are you trying to make me seem I'm scumbuddy with you or smth. It was a joke, either you or grrr are scum, a 90% possibility is as good as calling you scum. I didnt vote you because I still dont know if its grr or you, Im gonna read through what I missed and see. how do you feel about the votes on you at the moment?? |
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grrr said: Well if I have to be honest, I prefer if we discuss who should be the one poisoned and we decide that to be me, over Karote revenge poisoning me for I forced him to make a claim. And then he will get away from it just fine because most of you want me dead anyway : D. ehhh, can the poison ability be rbed, I think open discussion on it would be silly lol |
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| [quote=SoulEaterQUEEN message=46091296] it is possible. But if mafia have rber, fine block Karote. Though it will be risky for them. we might look over karote or something. But even if we decide that he shouldn't poison anyone that is fine too. i just don't want him to have easy way out if he is mafia. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: interesting reads, I mean I am pretty sure I put Mishu as a null wall for my reads, and still don't get what their hesitation is about - inconfident townie from mislynches, or scum being afraid of the spot light? though like, I see not wanting to lynch day 1 more on the null side (even though I still disagree with it but like you said before this is an old argument/waste of time), but for scum not wanting to lynch someone whose probably town, and to openly wuss out on lynching just brings more attention - so kind of why I didn't see this as a scum intended move. but ehhh null wall reads can be *anything* I don't know if I get you wrong, but in case I do get you right, just to clarify, Mishu did want Day 1 lynch. He was not against Day 1 lynch, but because he did not know whom to vote then he didn't vote. I can't guess why. Maybe it's a matter of principle, like Uuh who is against Day 1 lynch whatever you say. Maybe if if he's scum he is afraid of VCA, but it's not like someone's VCA's can't be denied and not like he can desist voting forever. Though I certainly disagree with Lucy when he said "You want a lynch, you don't care who it is as long as it isn't you." like it is a confirmation of Mishu's scumminess. Because I think no one wants to be lynched (unless his role benefits from getting lynched). Heck, even I don't want to be lynched most of the times. |
SoulEaterQUEEN said: TheConquerer said: It was a joke, either you or grrr are scum, a 90% possibility is as good as calling you scum. I didnt vote you because I still dont know if its grr or you, Im gonna read through what I missed and see. how do you feel about the votes on you at the moment?? Well I cant say I want them... I dont get why Mishu joined when Karote was accused of mafia and I dont know why they did either. It felt like a train with the hastiness of it all. But apperantly Karote isnt scum and grrr lied so I'm kinda most suspicious at grrr. Vote Mishu Voting grr would create a tie right now but since Mishu is the only one who hasn't claimed between them I'm voting them. I also dont like how they seem too eager to know what my ability is. |
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Zuhra said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: interesting reads, I mean I am pretty sure I put Mishu as a null wall for my reads, and still don't get what their hesitation is about - inconfident townie from mislynches, or scum being afraid of the spot light? though like, I see not wanting to lynch day 1 more on the null side (even though I still disagree with it but like you said before this is an old argument/waste of time), but for scum not wanting to lynch someone whose probably town, and to openly wuss out on lynching just brings more attention - so kind of why I didn't see this as a scum intended move. but ehhh null wall reads can be *anything* I don't know if I get you wrong, but in case I do get you right, just to clarify, Mishu did want Day 1 lynch. He was not against Day 1 lynch, but because he did not know whom to vote then he didn't vote. I can't guess why. Maybe it's a matter of principle, like Uuh who is against Day 1 lynch whatever you say. Maybe if if he's scum he is afraid of VCA, but it's not like someone's VCA's can't be denied and not like he can desist voting forever. Though I certainly disagree with Lucy when he said "You want a lynch, you don't care who it is as long as it isn't you." like it is a confirmation of Mishu's scumminess. Because I think no one wants to be lynched (unless his role benefits from getting lynched). Heck, even I don't want to be lynched most of the times. eh, yes this is where confusion happened in my reads actually and you just clarified it. At first I saw them going against lynching in day 1, but only because they didn't know who to lynch, could not tell if this is how they liked to generally play in Day 1, or if this was just situational (like you said)... But honestly doesn't make sense because it is best to lynch just anyone really having a no lynch in day 1 is just not helpful to town. VCA doesn't hold unless reasoning is backed which a lot of people forget to add in, so I don't see why scum should be afraid of VCA after day 1 when 75 % of the votes are based on a crappy reasoning. |
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TheConquerer said: But apperantly Karote isnt scum and grrr lied so I'm kinda most suspicious at grrr. Wait what? How come karote is not scum? Since when? |
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TheConquerer said: Well I cant say I want them... I dont get why Mishu joined when Karote was accused of mafia and I dont know why they did either. It felt like a train with the hastiness of it all. But apperantly Karote isnt scum and grrr lied so I'm kinda most suspicious at grrr. Vote Mishu Voting grr would create a tie right now but since Mishu is the only one who hasn't claimed between them I'm voting them. I also dont like how they seem too eager to know what my ability is. you believe Karote's claim? |
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| errrrm where did @magicalofmagic and @thereapersedge go? you aren't falling under the radar so easily |
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Oh idk if thats true but since grr lied about Karote being 90% mafia I find it hard to hold evidence against them. They carry as much scumminess around them as your usual player if not a bit more. @grrr same answer here. Sorry I phrased that badly, meant to say you lied so I have a heard time believing their scum when I think you are. I also wouldnt be surprised if you and Mishu were working together if you were scum so I dont mind which goes down first. |
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| I believe there are 4 mafia and 1 or 2 neutrals in this game. I think at least 4 of mishu, karote, blaze, shinchi kun, slightless reality are bad. We should really force karote to poison someone. I believe he won't do it anyway as he is mafia. |
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grrr said: I believe there are 4 mafia and 1 or 2 neutrals in this game. I think at least 4 of mishu, karote, blaze, shinchi kun, slightless reality are bad. We should really force karote to poison someone. I believe he won't do it anyway as he is mafia. if Karote is going to poison someone, I think he should decide on his own rather than have him be transparent about his actions. Narrowing down a list of possible targets is best way to go if you really insist on organization. |
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grrr said: I believe there are 4 mafia and 1 or 2 neutrals in this game. I think at least 4 of mishu, karote, blaze, shinchi kun, slightless reality are bad. We should really force karote to poison someone. I believe he won't do it anyway as he is mafia. as duly noted but you said you had no reads, but you clearly do here :D |
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grrr said: I believe there are 4 mafia and 1 or 2 neutrals in this game. I think at least 4 of mishu, karote, blaze, shinchi kun, slightless reality are bad. We should really force karote to poison someone. I believe he won't do it anyway as he is mafia. Oh, I so will kill somebody. Don't blame me if I got townie. |
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Karote said: grrr said: I believe there are 4 mafia and 1 or 2 neutrals in this game. I think at least 4 of mishu, karote, blaze, shinchi kun, slightless reality are bad. We should really force karote to poison someone. I believe he won't do it anyway as he is mafia. Oh, I so will kill somebody. Don't blame me if I got townie. I think we should kill Kaito, because you know...... |
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TheConquerer said: Oh idk if thats true but since grr lied about Karote being 90% mafia I find it hard to hold evidence against them. They carry as much scumminess around them as your usual player if not a bit more. @grrr same answer here. Sorry I phrased that badly, meant to say you lied so I have a heard time believing their scum when I think you are. I also wouldnt be surprised if you and Mishu were working together if you were scum so I dont mind which goes down first. I am working together with mishu ? out of all players, Mishu? The guy that I forced a lynch on? If I was mafia at this point I would never try to lynch a mafia member at this point to get town's trust. 4 town players are dead. All I would want is to get one more town member lynched and then it will be lylo with 4 mafia alive = win. |
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| also don't think for 1 second that I plan to wait for the poison to go through to foresee Karote's innocence, I know all about this "I want to buy more time to enjoy my killing activities in this game" strategy~ >.> |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: errrrm where did @magicalofmagic and @thereapersedge go? you aren't falling under the radar so easily Well....I am having a tough time deciding whom to vote. Reading all the older posts again. |
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