i suspect Lupa, same results scum posts
I suspect Grr, not because he isnt on just very uptight and to himself
I suspect Grave because she does have good talks but could be a tricky of what she says to other people.
"I am the Bone of my Sword
Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood
I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
Hime-sama said: i suspect Lupa, same results scum posts
That's what we call OMGUS ("Oh My God You Suck"), Mr. Mafia
As far as I've ever known in mafia OMGUS only applies to some one voting for someone cuz that person voted for them :/
And since you didn't vote for me and I didn't vote for you, I don't see how OMGUS applies
Even in the context of just attacking people, I attacked you first. It would only have counted as OMGUS if you had attacked me first and I had been attacking you in return.
Hime-sama said: i suspect Lupa, same results scum posts
That's what we call OMGUS ("Oh My God You Suck"), Mr. Mafia
As far as I've ever known in mafia OMGUS only applies to some one voting for someone cuz that person voted for them :/
And since you didn't vote for me and I didn't vote for you, I don't see how OMGUS applies
Even in the context of just attacking people, I attacked you first. It would only have counted as OMGUS if you had attacked me first and I had been attacking you in return.
Also, I'd rather not see people shooting me, having the gun at the start of the game where we have no clues would be pretty bad. I'd kill one mafia (Hime) and then would be left with not much else to go. Not to mention shooting me would imply losing one townie.
lupadim said: Also, I'd rather not see people shooting me, having the gun at the start of the game where we have no clues would be pretty bad. I'd kill one mafia (Hime) and then would be left with not much else to go. Not to mention shooting me would imply losing one townie.
Your implying that i'm suppose to just assume your telling the truth about hime and that you are town. I still think your a vengeful mafia but thats just me i guess.
lupadim said: [spoiler]I guess I'll have to step up and say the obvious here.
There's not much to do really. The best we can do is force all the players to provide a fos (who they think is mafia), even if they don't have a fos just force them to pick a random player. Then, we shoot at random, doesn't matter who really, it's up to the shooter's discretion. With that death, we will have something to discuss from there onwards.
RIght now we have nothing. No one got any investigative roles, there's absolutely nothing other than waiting for the gunshot, so why delay it?
[/spoiler]
I agree with coro that Lupadim's previous posts about the gun seemed forced, but this raises flags for me. He seemed very eager for the gun to be shot. It could be because he was under suspicion or because he believes could be a better mafia hunter too...
It's hard to get a read on certain players due to inactivity >.<
Anywho, I think the goal is definitely to shoot mafia. While I understand wanting to give the chance to others to be a gunbearer, it makes no sense to have a pointless town death and increase the mafia's chances. So try to shoot someone who is suspect, but if flips town would make a good gunbearer.
I'm on my laptop instead of my desktop (where my list of players notes are) so I'll have to post my thoughts latter. >.<
Despite what grave says, I see little reason for Soren to play that sloppily in the beginning of the game. I've still got my eyes on Royy >.>
"I am the Bone of my Sword
Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood
I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
turtlebandit said: I suspect Lupa because they keep making scummy posts
Oh no I am more than one person
Oh no you saw right through my disguise
Oh no you are siding with Hime
The word 'they' can be used in a singular sense when one doesn't know whether the person in question is a male or a female -.-
You should know that I am male by this point of our relationship
Two things~
1) We don't have a relationship (Sorry, but I don't like guys in that kind of way)
2) How would I have known that you're a guy?
lupadim said:
turtlebandit said:
lupadim said:
Hime-sama said: i suspect Lupa, same results scum posts
That's what we call OMGUS ("Oh My God You Suck"), Mr. Mafia
As far as I've ever known in mafia OMGUS only applies to some one voting for someone cuz that person voted for them :/
And since you didn't vote for me and I didn't vote for you, I don't see how OMGUS applies
Even in the context of just attacking people, I attacked you first. It would only have counted as OMGUS if you had attacked me first and I had been attacking you in return.
KaitoKid said: If possible everyone should let me know who they suspect and why!!
Lupadim: Has repeatedly said that he wants the gun.
Controversy: Is trying to draw the attention to himself.
Both are acting as if they want to be shot, but that could be a trick?
Captainroyy:
captainroyy said: I'll just put my little input here since everything Soren said before is now partly useless >.>
And I don't know how exactly he played.
Just don't shoot me OwO
captainroyy said: Pretty sure I don't want to be the gunbearer since I don't trust myself with a gun :P
He hasn't given us a single suspect yet, and he's very defensive.
Mafia Goon? He might also be Vengeful, trying to appear like he doesn't want to be shot.
The group was allowed a brief respite of enjoyment. Mai was a glorious hero who was able to route out the first mafia.
However, the joy was short lived. The anticipation of another successful shot loomed. The crowed began to wonder who Shap talked to, who he was interested in shoot, and how people responded. While the group wracked their brains for the answers to life’s burning questions, many debates broke out about who it would be.
Mai thought, was their fearless leader. Able to conquer the many conversations, she choose her next target Kaitokid
She pointed the gun at him and fired. However, she was shocked when the gun backfired and she died. Kaitokid has replaced Mai as the gunbearer
Kaito you have 72 hours to choose a target.
Goodluck.
RIP Mai! You did well as 1st gun bearer. I expected you to shoot me or soren I'm not jealous kaito got the gun.
So 10 townies (1 confirmed), 6 mafia (3 vengeful). The win conditions are unique so getting a vengeful mafioso right now would be great.
current read list:
1 pyro - Inactive/lurking, can't read him, he does this regardless of faction.
2 kaitokirishima - Confirmed townie with he gun.
3 Grave_Robber - Best Robber you'll ever meet <3
4 turtlebandit - Posted a funny pic about shap, playing his usualy style which is hard to read. Suspects grr so I wuv him.
6 mkim - Posts fillers and hasn't contributed at all, posted a pic about being scared, when I asked if he was afraid of getting shot he ignored my post. Might be mafia.
7 Jackrito - Jack's really hard to read for me.... Some of his posts were very good but he could secretly be bad.
8 Controversy - Playing his usual style, wants the people on his revenge list to get shot so either trolling to get the gun or is bad and trying to appear townie?
9 Grrr - Posted those stats I don't like, I think he might be bad, so does turtle =3
10 X_at_home - Sneaky or helpful? needs to post more so I can better read him.
11 rumanshi-xanic - Blue eyes should tell us who to shoot, he usually picks up on some things others miss and votes for baddies, so might be worth a shot to see what he thinks. At least we'd get a read on him if those he named flip mafia or town.
13 sasameiv - Some analytical posts, some providing new ideas/point of view, I like saya-chan. I think she might be town. (No one's tried to go after her despite her being an excellent player, which makes me wonder).
14 El-Psy_Congroo - replaced karote, karote was rather inactive so can't read. Karote's tells don't work in this game, not cool =/
15 CaptainRoy - Replaced Soren who I was town reading, he did pull that stunt with the post editing, so either he really is town or is desperate to appear town. Decoy mafia? (as in not vengeful since they might be trying to keep the vengefuls alive, the again, I don't see soren as the kind of player who sacrifices himself). Soren adding focus to the lupa/hime situation makes me think soren and hime are not of the same faction.(assuming soren's posts were real and not an attempt to get shot)
16 Lupadim - Believes Hime is Vengeful Mafia or is pretending to, he could be mafia and didn't expect his "Scum hunting" would become the focus of Day 1. (I've never seen lupa play as mafia so I don't know what kind of mafioso he is).
17 Hime-sama - Was defensive, would like her to give some reads now that a few days have passed since the focus was on her. If she's mafia, she's probably vengeful.
18 Coromandel - seems busy or preoccupied this game, Day 1 she was actively questioning players, but later on she didn't post much so I'm waiting for 1 of her insightful posts.
I would like it if Lupadim, coro and Jackrito gave us their reads, they're more experienced than the rest of the players and their reads can be quite telling.
My recommendation: Shoot someone from the hime/lupa situation or Mkim/grr
Controversy said: I kinda want to shoot turtle too. The game before this one he vig-killed me, and on the game before before he was 3rd party and he betrayed me.
You wanna shoot turle because he betrayed you? What happened to the beasties?
KaitoKid said: and you were even happy once he died. It's almost like you knew he was mafia, since he finally was able to join the club???
This made me laugh XD
Mkim said:
KaitoKid said: If possible everyone should let me know who they suspect and why!!
Soren Royy and Grave cause spear and shield.
grrr just cause math pisses me off
Controversy cause china
Mkim, cause he's so sexy, it hurts.
The two first names were for real.
So basically the top 2 names Mai gave Day 1 and Day 2. No one else stands out Kimmie?
Hime-sama said: i suspect Lupa, same results scum posts
I suspect Grr, not because he isnt on just very uptight and to himself
I suspect Grave because she does have good talks but could be a tricky of what she says to other people.
But not soren, interesting.
xanic said: I suspect lupadim.
Just to irritate him
No other names blue eyes?
lupadim said: Also, I'd rather not see people shooting me, having the gun at the start of the game where we have no clues would be pretty bad. I'd kill one mafia (Hime) and then would be left with not much else to go. Not to mention shooting me would imply losing one townie.
Hmm, either you're a townie or a really good mafioso, at least now I know you're not the kind of guy who would sacrifice himself.
sasameiv said: It's hard to get a read on certain players due to inactivity >.<
+10000
sasameiv said: Despite what grave says, I see little reason for Soren to play that sloppily in the beginning of the game. I've still got my eyes on Royy >.>
See now this goes back to the point of shooting someone who is suspect, but if flips town would make a good gunbearer. If soren was still playing, I wouldn't object so much but since it's roy who just replaced him and could be manipulated by mafia into shooting a townie, I would say leave him for now. If Kaito shoots roy and roy shoots another townie, the town loses 2 people quickly.
coromandel said:
Captainroyy:
captainroyy said: I'll just put my little input here since everything Soren said before is now partly useless >.>
And I don't know how exactly he played.
Just don't shoot me OwO
captainroyy said: Pretty sure I don't want to be the gunbearer since I don't trust myself with a gun :P
He hasn't given us a single suspect yet, and he's very defensive.
Mafia Goon? He might also be Vengeful, trying to appear like he doesn't want to be shot.
KaitoKid said: If possible everyone should let me know who they suspect and why!!
I still stand by what I said before that the mafia are the ones who are either asking to be shot or the ones been overly defensive when accused each for a different reason. The first one is simple if you ask to be shot it shows a lack of fear of the gunbeare which means that they know it will not harm them and so the gunbearer will not shoot them out of fear of them been town and killing themselfs. The people who have done this are mainly lupa and Soren and maybe a couple of others but these are the main ones. It is likely these are also the vengeful mafia because if the plan does backfire at least they kill a townie as well.
Onto the second group which are those who act over defensive when accused they is no reason to react in such a way if town since as I said most townies will want the gun and not care if someone dies to get it. Mafia will of course have reason to care since if they are shot it is all over this will be the normal mafia who have no adv with dying which vengeful have.
To carry on a good idea would be to shoot people that are always agrueing with each other because it is likely mafia will interact more with each other because that way if one dies the other will get some town rep and be less likely to be shot so lupa and hime are both good examples of this and also Soren at the start of the game.
But to finish it off as I said as gunbearer trust your own judgement and make your own choices mafia are going to try and trick you to killing who they want and that will include each other because of the vengeful mafia roles and it will give them good town rep. The vengeful mafia are likely to be trolling in this game and trying to get shot espically when a strong player has the gun who could be a problem to them.
This is all specluation because depending on who is mafia they will play a different way this is not a normal game so they are many approuchs for mafia to take in this I have listed a couple but they will be many more.
Mkim- he's providing nothing and just going with what others want.
Controversy-For being to anti town i believe is goal is to make this fake revenge list so we won't trust him with a gun but i believe he is scum.
Sesame(maybe)-I believe its highyl possible shes mafia playing extremely town like, and evern shot her i would know town is in good hands if she flips town.
Hime-For being to defensive then pretty much lurking.
Lupa-For acting very anti town wanting to be shot, then randomly saying he doesn't want to be shot now that im the gun bearer.
coromandel said: He hasn't given us a single suspect yet, and he's very defensive.
Mafia Goon? He might also be Vengeful, trying to appear like he doesn't want to be shot.
Pretty sure I don't know the hell what's going on, plus I'm not really good at taking the time to read eeeeverything >.>
Or understand everything either.
I really have hard time grasping who I might find suspicious :/
grave_robber said: I would like to see Roy get into the game and do some reads. He's looking at the thread with fresh eyes.
I would like to see that too OwO
But I'm only filling in, and my best isn't the kind of best someone else might give >...<
@People who haven't posted a suspect list can you please do so, or i'll start suspecting you. I need people's reads to figure out if anything contradicts itself.
I have re-read the entire thing, but the list of suspects only keeps on increasing, it's like the mafia is trying to point out each and every small mistake which normally wouldn't be noticed.
I think shooting the person who is trying to gain your trust is better than shooting the most suspicious person. In this game, mafia's are the ones trying too hard.
In this game, most of the townies has pretty much no motivation to identify the Mafia, this is because they don't get killed the usual way.
I'm guessing most of the mind set would be, it doesn't matter if I get shot, I won't be killed.
What you(GB) think is most important in this game, do what you want to do.
El-Psy_Congroo said: I have re-read the entire thing, but the list of suspects only keeps on increasing, it's like the mafia is trying to point out each and every small mistake which normally wouldn't be noticed.
I think shooting the person who is trying to gain your trust is better than shooting the most suspicious person. In this game, mafia's are the ones trying too hard.
In this game, most of the townies has pretty much no motivation to identify the Mafia, this is because they don't get killed the usual way.
I'm guessing most of the mind set would be, it doesn't matter if I get shot, I won't be killed.
What you(GB) think is most important in this game, do what you want to do.
KaitoKid said: I wanna shoot one of these 5 people are:
Mkim- he's providing nothing and just going with what others want.
Controversy-For being to anti town i believe is goal is to make this fake revenge list so we won't trust him with a gun but i believe he is scum.
Sesame(maybe)-I believe its highyl possible shes mafia playing extremely town like, and evern shot her i would know town is in good hands if she flips town.
Hime-For being to defensive then pretty much lurking.
Lupa-For acting very anti town wanting to be shot, then randomly saying he doesn't want to be shot now that im the gun bearer.
If people could vote based on this list who you think is the best option to be shot that be very helpful!
turtlebandit said: I suspect Lupa because they keep making scummy posts
Oh no I am more than one person
Oh no you saw right through my disguise
Oh no you are siding with Hime
The word 'they' can be used in a singular sense when one doesn't know whether the person in question is a male or a female -.-
You should know that I am male by this point of our relationship
Two things~
1) We don't have a relationship (Sorry, but I don't like guys in that kind of way)
2) How would I have known that you're a guy?
lupadim said:
turtlebandit said:
lupadim said:
Hime-sama said: i suspect Lupa, same results scum posts
That's what we call OMGUS ("Oh My God You Suck"), Mr. Mafia
As far as I've ever known in mafia OMGUS only applies to some one voting for someone cuz that person voted for them :/
And since you didn't vote for me and I didn't vote for you, I don't see how OMGUS applies
Even in the context of just attacking people, I attacked you first. It would only have counted as OMGUS if you had attacked me first and I had been attacking you in return.
KaitoKid said: I wanna shoot one of these 5 people are:
Mkim- he's providing nothing and just going with what others want.
Controversy-For being to anti town i believe is goal is to make this fake revenge list so we won't trust him with a gun but i believe he is scum.
Sesame(maybe)-I believe its highyl possible shes mafia playing extremely town like, and evern shot her i would know town is in good hands if she flips town.
Hime-For being to defensive then pretty much lurking.
Lupa-For acting very anti town wanting to be shot, then randomly saying he doesn't want to be shot now that im the gun bearer.
If people could vote based on this list who you think is the best option to be shot that be very helpful!
I think it's time we voted for someone from Kaito's short list, not only will this help him pick a target, it will also give us some decent VCA for later.
Vote: Lupadim
He could be mafia and if he's not, he'll be a good gun bearer. (same goes for saya-chan btw)
captainroyy said:
grave_robber said: I would like to see Roy get into the game and do some reads. He's looking at the thread with fresh eyes.
I would like to see that too OwO
But I'm only filling in, and my best isn't the kind of best someone else might give >...<
Roy, I'm not asking you to be as good as soren, I'm asking you to read the game thread and tell me who seems like they're trying too hard or is lurking too much...etc.
Do you know how the game works or do you want me to explain?
KaitoKid said: I wanna shoot one of these 5 people are:
Mkim- he's providing nothing and just going with what others want.
Controversy-For being to anti town i believe is goal is to make this fake revenge list so we won't trust him with a gun but i believe he is scum.
Sesame(maybe)-I believe its highyl possible shes mafia playing extremely town like, and evern shot her i would know town is in good hands if she flips town.
Hime-For being to defensive then pretty much lurking.
Lupa-For acting very anti town wanting to be shot, then randomly saying he doesn't want to be shot now that im the gun bearer.
If people could vote based on this list who you think is the best option to be shot that be very helpful!
I just catched up pretty fast, so it's kinda hard to distinguish things and this is mostly based on overall impressions.
From your short list:
Mkim - really not doing much. I think I only played him once before where he did the same as scum, but its hard to tell if he is not just mostly like that.
Controversy - Seems cryptic as usual, though I think its true like others said that he is trolling more than usual. Hard to read for me.
Saya - few, but very insightful posts. Feels like a shot in the dark for feeling to detached from the action and like an observer, but has the upside that she would be a good gunbearer.
Hime - yeah, that incident at the start. After that seems to be playing very laid back mostly. Her defensive reaction, while not feeling great, was something she did as town before, so I'm slightly leaning town for now. Her not fully answering my question was eh though with that inconsistency about Soren.
Lupa - Lol, yeah, that. Well, mostly tunneling hime and now interacting with turtle about stuff. Could be mafia. benefit would be that if he is that hime is most likely not, if he is not, I think he makes a decent gunbearer, too.
Like grave mentioned, I personally think maybe Rumanshi would be a good choice. He is hard to read with the oneliner posts, though if he turns out town, he should be a good gunbearer, too.
KaitoKid said: If possible everyone should let me know who they suspect and why!!
Soren Royy and Grave cause spear and shield.
grrr just cause math pisses me off
Controversy cause china
Mkim, cause he's so sexy, it hurts.
The two first names were for real.
So basically the top 2 names Mai gave Day 1 and Day 2. No one else stands out Kimmie?
Yeap, you two definitelly stand out more for me
grave_robber said: 6 mkim - Posts fillers and hasn't contributed at all, posted a pic about being scared, when I asked if he was afraid of getting shot he ignored my post. Might be mafia.
I was out of the loop of most of day 1 disscussion, things were already happening for the game and I didn't really had to say anything. The spongebob gif is one of the first google results for "Lurking gif", cause I just didn't quite wanted to be "not posting-lurking". As for the question, I had seen it but I had forgotten to answer it, then it became too late to do it without being akward .-.
As for the question: Naps, not afraid to get shot
KaitoKid said: I wanna shoot one of these 5 people are:
Mkim- he's providing nothing and just going with what others want.
Yes, I may understand what I did seemed "Going with what others want", specially the "top 2 Mai Tai" read list