I can agree with a good portion of what's been said here, such as "No ring, fair game" and the like. But regardless what anyone says, there are some people that can't heed their own morals when they're in the heat of the moment. I once told myself I'd never get involved with a married woman...and it still happened. Granted she said he was putting his hands on her (and I believe it, because I know the guy) and eventually we found out he was cheating on her first, but the fact is, though they were separated when we were banging, she was still legally married.
Oh and one more thing. Democracy, you can keep talking a big game, but the fact that you commented in that other thread that you spent like 10 hours or whatever on the phone with a female just tells me you're fucking whipped. Bemoaralpha, scrub.
To be honest the reason why I don't pull any punches is because I know how taking the good guy route usually ends and the next guy might not have the "decency" the good guy (meaning most people in the thread has) so rather than risk being "nice" I'd rather do what I want.
Then if someone does the same thing to me I have no right to complain. I can't blame you guys for trying to do the right thing but I guess I just don't have as much trust in every other guy as you do.
Edit: I'd rather be branded an asshole/douche than get screwed over because I wanted to be nice.
I think my problem with this thread is that I can't tell if people are talking about cheating or if they are talking about causing a rift in a relationship and having someone leave for them.
The latter is not a big deal, but two people are wrong when cheating is involved (unless, like some people have mentioned, you didn't know she was in a relationship.)
Feyfray said: I think my problem with this thread is that I can't tell if people are talking about cheating or if they are talking about causing a rift in a relationship and having someone leave for them.
The latter is not a big deal, but two people are wrong when cheating is involved (unless, like some people have mentioned, you didn't know she was in a relationship.)
What classifies as cheating isn't the same for most people though. I know for some people cheating means physical stuff but for others just spending more time with X person of the opposite sex over your significant other is considered cheating.
Woman is not an item to steal. If she chosen to be with another man, then its not a steal, but her choice. And her choice must be respected. Anyway, its impossible to "steal" her if she really likes the guy.
ScazoN said:
So i wanna ask, is it ok to be a Mr.StealYoGirl once in a while?
Yes, it is completely ok.
I m sorry if I m doing something wrong. I m new to the internet. Don't judge me.
Democracy said: I'm not gonna go into details but both of the times I've done it I know for a fact I was doing a better job. It's not hard to tell when you see each other every day before and after the stuff happened. And with your logic most people will be forever alone because they need to "respect" some title that means absolutely nothing.
I simply don't believe a word you're saying because the explanation you provide is just "I'm better then your current man". You cannot fathom the depths that some things go in relationships. And to assume and imply that you or any other person can just waltz in and take on those depths is absurd.
Plus you seem to think that it's always the guy who's the one making trouble. Who's always to blame. That every girl is a girl that you sweep off their feet and "save" for some reason. This isn't a fairy tale. That doesn't happen. And nothing you assume or imply will change that. Most people when they share relationships, they share negative aspects. To just take that at face value is like walking into a maze blindfolded.
That sounds like a lot of virgin talk to me, regardless of who is at fault there's nothing wrong with seeing someone you want and going for it. There are flaws in every relationship, if you're gonna be a bitch about it and not take advantage of them it's your loss. There's nothing wrong with trying to give a girl a fairy tale ending. It's what most of them want after all. And how deep their relationship is shouldn't matter to a 3rd party, you want what you want.
Edit: If you try and succeed then their relation was most likely never going anywhere in the first place and if you fail then they really do belong together.
is this guy serious
Yes. And I m totally agree with him.
I m sorry if I m doing something wrong. I m new to the internet. Don't judge me.
Quazari said: Woman is not an item to steal. If she chosen to be with another man, then its not a steal, but her choice. And her choice must be respected. Anyway, its impossible to "steal" her if she really likes the guy.
ScazoN said: I don't think you know what it means when people use 'stealing' in these situations. It's just as simple as taking someone's women away from them on her own free will. It's just a term people like to use to make you sound like a P.I.M.P.
I'm against it but hey, if you manage to steal someones gf/bf it means that they're relationships didn't work anyway, like why would someone in a perfectly happy relationship decide to cheat.
Nicoreos said: ITT: People thinking sabotaging relationships is alpha
Cause it is, beta.
Alpha would be having the girls come to you, pheromones or some shit.
I'd label it as semi-alpha since you clearly must've done sth right when you successfully "steal" a woman from another man.
All of this "stealing women" talk sounds suspiciously like r/theredpill and those guys are embarrassing
Not sure if that's meant to be an insult to me or someone else. I'm not dat familiar with reddit groups...
Not you or anyone specific.
Here's an excerpt from the introduction, explaining what theredpill is:
theredpill said: As an introduction to the topic, I want to outline what our focus is here at /r/theredpill[2] .
Mastering Game
Game is an important portion of a sexual strategy. A lot of you probably came here from /r/seduction[3] and are probably wondering why we'd need a new subreddit if one dedicated to game already exists. The reason is simple: Game is a facet of The Red Pill's sexual strategy. Determining good game is impossible to do so without first understanding the context given by The Red Pill's framework. Something I keep seeing over on the seduction subreddit is a problem taking over most relationship and sex forums: the desire to feminize the discussion (basically making it sound politically correct if read by a female).
Yes, game got a bad reputation from girls who demonize manipulation. This is because game is an effective strategy against their own sexual strategy. I believe women's opposition to game can be attributed to the unconscious factors in women's sexual strategy (Please do read Schedules of Mating[4]
When women started becoming vocal about their opposition to game, that's when men decided it would be necessary to make game more politically correct. "Oh, we're not here to manipulate women to have sex with us- we're here to become better men!"
And thus, the female imperative took over game. When men think they must define their own sexual strategy in a way that best delivers results to the female sexual strategy, you know your own strategy will suffer! In a game of chess, do I politely not take out the oppositions' queen in hopes not to offend or win the game?
Defining the Strategy
Because of the necessity to have good game, we must define what good game is. A large portion of Red Pill discussion revolves around evolutionary psychology. Understanding the facets of this psychology are key to developing a good sexual strategy. Because this strategy is useful not only in gaining the attention of the opposite sex, but continuing relationships, having children, and maximizing your own happiness throughout life, I'm going to argue that defining the strategy outside of just "good game" is an important facet of Red Pill Discussion.
Acknowledging Reality
Finally, I think our focus should always remain on ensuring that we challenge the reality we perceive and discuss precisely and objectively whether or not our beliefs line up with the testable results we can replicate. I am a firm believer that potential success can only be maximized by maximizing your knowledge of the factors surrounding your success. Keeping your eyes closed and ignoring evidence and facts will not benefit you. Opening your eyes and acknowledging everything no matter how good, bad, or painful it may seem, is instrumental in making decisions that will lead to the happiest, most successful outcomes.
Teaching neckbeards everywhere that they can pick up women by "negging" and other "strategies"
It doesn't matter if you're creepy, overweight and rocking a fedora neckbeard combo as long as you act alpha enough, women will respond.
The Bible says that it's a sin.
I say it's OK, one fucker stole a girl I liked from me in school and I was getting really close with her, so why not? Revenge against the world time.
Saying 'stealing someone's woman/men' is degrading.
Humans are not private properties nor object of possession, they are free human beings that had clear conscience of themselves and the freedom to love.
The most important things in life is the people that you care about