| I highly believe that PTW/PTR should be removed from Overall entries. Why?  I believe the manga one is mostly out of control. Why should something you never even read before even be in Overall Entries? |
MaoraMay 31, 2009 6:06 PM
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| Yeah, I never understood why it counted either. I support this. |
| $20 says they never get around to reading/watching over half of them anyway. I'm for it. |
eternal_blue said: Raising it to $50.$20 says they never get around to reading/watching over half of them anyway. I'm for it. |
| I agree. I doubt any of these people are actually reading/watching what they have planned anyways. |
| Click on this. I dare you. | MAL Fantasy Football League | Currently Watching List RWBY Club. RWBY is anime. Deal with it. |
| Does it really matter? |
| I've always thought it was kind of lame that people did that just to "up" their number of entries. But at the same time, I don't actually care XD It would be neat, though, to see who really has WATCHED the most anime. Or read the most manga. |
| It would be nice to see "true" overall entries or just remove them completely, since they reflect nothing other than the ptr/ptw lists (well, manga is 9/10 users at least). I usually don't care, but I get excited to see if someone else has added some completely obscure entry only to then see it's one of the people who plan to read everything, regardless of content, availability, or even language. |
| Overall takes into account the prior 5 catagories, all split into their own section. Just looking at each section will give you the top players. |
| It's better that it's removed from the "total entries". |
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llxwarbirdxll said: Plate said: Well... The statistics are there for a reason. There really should be a rule against shit like this.Does it really matter? The reason they're there is for epeen, I don't think there's much other than that. Right now, total entries actually means "total entries." If you removed plan to whatever, it wouldn't be very total now would it? If the data is so interesting, one could just do the math themselves to find out who "really" has the most entries aside from plan to read/watch. I don't think it should be changed just so different people can see their names on the list. |
PlateMay 31, 2009 9:40 AM
| I don't think it matters either way. I mean, does it really matter who as watched more? Though, I do support it if Xinil feels like doing it. |
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Plate said: Guess you do have a point. In that case, we might as well just have the statistics removed altogether.llxwarbirdxll said: Plate said: Well... The statistics are there for a reason. There really should be a rule against shit like this.Does it really matter? The reason they're there is for epeen, I don't think there's much other than that. Right now, total entries actually means "total entries." If you removed plan to whatever, it wouldn't be very total now would it? If the data is so interesting, one could just do the math themselves to find out who "really" has the most entries aside from plan to read/watch. I don't think it should be changed just so different people can see their names on the list. |
| What would be better is removing, or at least capping, Currently Watching. I see people with 200+ on their watching list. Yeah, I'm sure they're all watching that. Should'nt be more than ten shows on that list at any given time, imho. |
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| ^ or maybe just remove everything but completed. |
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Mr_Panda said: What would be better is removing, or at least capping, Currently Watching. I see people with 200+ on their watching list. Yeah, I'm sure they're all watching that. Should'nt be more than ten shows on that list at any given time, imho. So you want to remove functionality from the site so that... uh... why exactly? |
Plate said: Mr_Panda said: What would be better is removing, or at least capping, Currently Watching. I see people with 200+ on their watching list. Yeah, I'm sure they're all watching that. Should'nt be more than ten shows on that list at any given time, imho. So you want to remove functionality from the site so that... uh... why exactly? Yeeeah... Plus, people's definitions of "currently watching" vary. I have a LOT of manga in my "currently reading" category, because I read a book and then have to wait for the next one, or just haven't bought the next volume yet. I do it this way because my "on hold" list is used for something else (manga that I don't intend to buy the next volume of anytime soon, but don't want to drop). I'm sure that people use the "currently watching" in this way, too---start a series and leave it in there until they either complete it or decide to wait or drop it. |
| I guess it might be interesting to see who read/saw the most manga/anime. That would be counting everything excluding PTW/PTR. But even then, it should be a seperate category and not replacing the "total entries". It's kinda weird that someone's suggesting to remove CW/CR, considering stuff like dropped the drop list can be even less interesting (with lots of people dropping stuff after ep one). But again, it's useless to remove that from "total entries", for the same reason PTW/PTR shouldn't be removed from it. Either way, even if an extra "most read/seen" ranking would be interesting, it's far from being on top of the priority list. And even if this list would be made, there's a good chance people'll abuse this as well. I'm not sure how much we should care about people who want to increase their e-peen, since in the end, the people who complain about it are practically the same as the people they're complaining about..... :S |
ScrumYummy said: Plate said: Mr_Panda said: What would be better is removing, or at least capping, Currently Watching. I see people with 200+ on their watching list. Yeah, I'm sure they're all watching that. Should'nt be more than ten shows on that list at any given time, imho. So you want to remove functionality from the site so that... uh... why exactly? Yeeeah... Plus, people's definitions of "currently watching" vary. I have a LOT of manga in my "currently reading" category, because I read a book and then have to wait for the next one, or just haven't bought the next volume yet. I do it this way because my "on hold" list is used for something else (manga that I don't intend to buy the next volume of anytime soon, but don't want to drop). I'm sure that people use the "currently watching" in this way, too---start a series and leave it in there until they either complete it or decide to wait or drop it. 62 is not even over one hundred, let alone two. But my point is, from my perspective, currently watching and on-hold practically serve the same purpose if someone is not actually watching/reading them. If nothing else, they should be merged into a category called "Incomplete Series". Also, the only reason Dropped makes any sense as a seperate category (since I don't see why someone would want to advertise bad series they dropped) is to let people know what a user doesn't want to see when they ask for a suggestion on their next viewing. Let's assume such a merger of on-hold and watching took place. A user's own defenitions in categorizing their titles would, then, be just as relevant as the amount of sense in currently having two categories that effectively mean "progress in stasis". To sum up: either watching needs a cap, or watching serves no purpose that on-hold does not. Personally I quickly stopped adding things to the on-hold option quite some time ago, and I only add things to currently watching on a rare occasion. But that's just because I don't see much point in adding something to the MAL list unless you've completed it; unless it's a longer series of course. |
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Mr_Panda said: I use 'Currently Watching' for any shows I'm actively watching, i.e. shows that see releases around once a week. My 'On Hold' list is for shows that have erratic release schedules or haven't gotten subbed in at least a few weeks. The main point of the 'On Hold' list is to help declutter the 'Currently Watching' one and I guess, increase efficiency.But my point is, from my perspective, currently watching and on-hold practically serve the same purpose if someone is not actually watching/reading them. If nothing else, they should be merged into a category called "Incomplete Series". Also, the only reason Dropped makes any sense as a seperate category (since I don't see why someone would want to advertise bad series they dropped) is to let people know what a user doesn't want to see when they ask for a suggestion on their next viewing. Let's assume such a merger of on-hold and watching took place. A user's own defenitions in categorizing their titles would, then, be just as relevant as the amount of sense in currently having two categories that effectively mean "progress in stasis". To sum up: either watching needs a cap, or watching serves no purpose that on-hold does not. Personally I quickly stopped adding things to the on-hold option quite some time ago, and I only add things to currently watching on a rare occasion. But that's just because I don't see much point in adding something to the MAL list unless you've completed it; unless it's a longer series of course. |
| Yeah, there's a lot of ways that people can inflate their stats if they want. I wish everyone were honest and never added stuff just for the hell of it, but they're doing it anyway. Back when I was analyzing stats just to see how the Top Users stats were moving, one of the lists I created was a ("Overall Total Entries" minus "Plan to Watch") List. The "Plan to Watch" category was throwing the other stats out of whack. The category is extremely easy to add more titles to and it can also grow to enormous proportions. Say...is there a way for me NOT to show up on the Top User list? Is there a way for me to be stricken from the list? Maybe an invisible option? |
| I agree with this suggestion. Please make this valid. I see not a single valid counter-argument. |
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