The Irregular at Magic High School (light novel)
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Jul 28, 2014 10:27 AM
#51
jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: He lost his strong emotions and not all his emotion,i.e urges such as love,lust,greed,anger. It was also an unfortunate accident and all that can be left is brotherly love to Miyuki,because Miyuki will live longer than their mother,which why she was chosen and I think they can only put one person more,and if your the mother with such ability to reprogram someone would you chose your son to protect/be loyal to your clan or to his sister,which is also a heir as head candidate.Choosing Miyuki,Miya got 2 birds with one stone,also increasing Miyuki's chance to be the next clan head? lol why were they so sure that Miyuki would support them? Read volume 8,hint [spoiler] Miyuki wasn't really could be called a Tatsuya supporter until that incident (see first few minutes of ep 1 and first OP animation) and was doing all her best to be chosen as next clan head.She was also close to her mother. I read volume 8, what I'm saying is why did they depend on a maybe. They wanted to keep Tatsuya under their tabs, he could be considered the clans secret weapon (I wonder what their goal was- taking over the world o.O ), if he can get angry for Miyuki he can get angry at Miyuki too and turn on them. Didn't the clan think that. Tatsuya powers just got absurdly strong recently he was not a threat in the past but now he may even be threat for the entire planet, if something ever happens with Miyuki again he may turn the planet into dust, mindless nonlinear retaliation is even Yotsuba trademark and proof that Tatsuya is Yotsuba after all also the main reason no one mess with them, be it world powers, japanese government or other magic clans. How he went from citybuster to planetbuster? And vampires aren't aliens? Tatsuya turns matter into energy and until now there's no limit established, he may be able to even turn the moon into pure energy and make the entire solar system go supernova in the process, he also clearly fears MB, even with atomic precision CAD he normally blows more things than he wants to also yes, so-called vampires are inter-dimensional aliens and potential origin of magic and magicians. But IIRC his limit was 20 gigatons, which can destroy Mount Everest four times, but is still far away from seriously damaging planet. No limit established, the biggest thing he targeted with MB was an flag with 1 kg and turned it into 20 megatons but the biggest thing he decomposed was an huge truck, in neither cases was stated that those were his limits, considering that MB is just another type of decomposition you can estimate that Tatsuya may be able to at least turn the same cargo truck into energy, applying Einstein formula to an medium truck with 6,140 kg it generates 1318900000 megatons(1318 teratons) Last time earth was hit by 100 teratons mass extinction happened and 1000 teratons is planet buster. My bad, it was 20 megatons, not gigatons. So it's even nowhere near Mt. Everest. But the fact, that limit of his abilities wasn't shown, doesn't mean it not exist. It is probably around his best performances of MB. Claiming that he has no limits is a bit stupid. After all MB requires complex calculations. Tatsuya has to read design of his target to decompose it and he has to do it more accurately that in case of Mist Dispersion. Also processing of his Magic Calculation Area is not unlimited. So he's probably at max mountain/citybuster. And to be planetbuster he has to be able to release 50 zettatons of energy. Only if you are talking about completely obliterating the planet, with much less the planet turns into a lifeless piece of rock. But still he hasn't shown that he is capable of life-wiping.[/quote] Even though he hasn't shown it yet, I am pretty sure he is capble to do so. He was able to shot a long range bullet approximately 20 KM, and annihilate all the Enemies ships instantly, and can make 10 Kg matter to be 20 megatons O.O |
Jul 28, 2014 11:01 AM
#52
Seiryuu2 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: He lost his strong emotions and not all his emotion,i.e urges such as love,lust,greed,anger. It was also an unfortunate accident and all that can be left is brotherly love to Miyuki,because Miyuki will live longer than their mother,which why she was chosen and I think they can only put one person more,and if your the mother with such ability to reprogram someone would you chose your son to protect/be loyal to your clan or to his sister,which is also a heir as head candidate.Choosing Miyuki,Miya got 2 birds with one stone,also increasing Miyuki's chance to be the next clan head? lol why were they so sure that Miyuki would support them? Read volume 8,hint [spoiler] Miyuki wasn't really could be called a Tatsuya supporter until that incident (see first few minutes of ep 1 and first OP animation) and was doing all her best to be chosen as next clan head.She was also close to her mother. I read volume 8, what I'm saying is why did they depend on a maybe. They wanted to keep Tatsuya under their tabs, he could be considered the clans secret weapon (I wonder what their goal was- taking over the world o.O ), if he can get angry for Miyuki he can get angry at Miyuki too and turn on them. Didn't the clan think that. Tatsuya powers just got absurdly strong recently he was not a threat in the past but now he may even be threat for the entire planet, if something ever happens with Miyuki again he may turn the planet into dust, mindless nonlinear retaliation is even Yotsuba trademark and proof that Tatsuya is Yotsuba after all also the main reason no one mess with them, be it world powers, japanese government or other magic clans. How he went from citybuster to planetbuster? And vampires aren't aliens? Tatsuya turns matter into energy and until now there's no limit established, he may be able to even turn the moon into pure energy and make the entire solar system go supernova in the process, he also clearly fears MB, even with atomic precision CAD he normally blows more things than he wants to also yes, so-called vampires are inter-dimensional aliens and potential origin of magic and magicians. But IIRC his limit was 20 gigatons, which can destroy Mount Everest four times, but is still far away from seriously damaging planet. No limit established, the biggest thing he targeted with MB was an flag with 1 kg and turned it into 20 megatons but the biggest thing he decomposed was an huge truck, in neither cases was stated that those were his limits, considering that MB is just another type of decomposition you can estimate that Tatsuya may be able to at least turn the same cargo truck into energy, applying Einstein formula to an medium truck with 6,140 kg it generates 1318900000 megatons(1318 teratons) Last time earth was hit by 100 teratons mass extinction happened and 1000 teratons is planet buster. My bad, it was 20 megatons, not gigatons. So it's even nowhere near Mt. Everest. But the fact, that limit of his abilities wasn't shown, doesn't mean it not exist. It is probably around his best performances of MB. Claiming that he has no limits is a bit stupid. After all MB requires complex calculations. Tatsuya has to read design of his target to decompose it and he has to do it more accurately that in case of Mist Dispersion. Also processing of his Magic Calculation Area is not unlimited. So he's probably at max mountain/citybuster. And to be planetbuster he has to be able to release 50 zettatons of energy. Only if you are talking about completely obliterating the planet, with much less the planet turns into a lifeless piece of rock. But still he hasn't shown that he is capable of life-wiping. Even though he hasn't shown it yet, I am pretty sure he is capble to do so. He was able to shot a long range bullet approximately 20 KM, and annihilate all the Enemies ships instantly, and can make 10 Kg matter to be 20 megatons O.O No Limit Fallacy at it finest. |
Jul 28, 2014 12:52 PM
#53
Seiryuu2 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: He lost his strong emotions and not all his emotion,i.e urges such as love,lust,greed,anger. It was also an unfortunate accident and all that can be left is brotherly love to Miyuki,because Miyuki will live longer than their mother,which why she was chosen and I think they can only put one person more,and if your the mother with such ability to reprogram someone would you chose your son to protect/be loyal to your clan or to his sister,which is also a heir as head candidate.Choosing Miyuki,Miya got 2 birds with one stone,also increasing Miyuki's chance to be the next clan head? lol why were they so sure that Miyuki would support them? Read volume 8,hint [spoiler] Miyuki wasn't really could be called a Tatsuya supporter until that incident (see first few minutes of ep 1 and first OP animation) and was doing all her best to be chosen as next clan head.She was also close to her mother. I read volume 8, what I'm saying is why did they depend on a maybe. They wanted to keep Tatsuya under their tabs, he could be considered the clans secret weapon (I wonder what their goal was- taking over the world o.O ), if he can get angry for Miyuki he can get angry at Miyuki too and turn on them. Didn't the clan think that. Tatsuya powers just got absurdly strong recently he was not a threat in the past but now he may even be threat for the entire planet, if something ever happens with Miyuki again he may turn the planet into dust, mindless nonlinear retaliation is even Yotsuba trademark and proof that Tatsuya is Yotsuba after all also the main reason no one mess with them, be it world powers, japanese government or other magic clans. How he went from citybuster to planetbuster? And vampires aren't aliens? Tatsuya turns matter into energy and until now there's no limit established, he may be able to even turn the moon into pure energy and make the entire solar system go supernova in the process, he also clearly fears MB, even with atomic precision CAD he normally blows more things than he wants to also yes, so-called vampires are inter-dimensional aliens and potential origin of magic and magicians. But IIRC his limit was 20 gigatons, which can destroy Mount Everest four times, but is still far away from seriously damaging planet. No limit established, the biggest thing he targeted with MB was an flag with 1 kg and turned it into 20 megatons but the biggest thing he decomposed was an huge truck, in neither cases was stated that those were his limits, considering that MB is just another type of decomposition you can estimate that Tatsuya may be able to at least turn the same cargo truck into energy, applying Einstein formula to an medium truck with 6,140 kg it generates 1318900000 megatons(1318 teratons) Last time earth was hit by 100 teratons mass extinction happened and 1000 teratons is planet buster. My bad, it was 20 megatons, not gigatons. So it's even nowhere near Mt. Everest. But the fact, that limit of his abilities wasn't shown, doesn't mean it not exist. It is probably around his best performances of MB. Claiming that he has no limits is a bit stupid. After all MB requires complex calculations. Tatsuya has to read design of his target to decompose it and he has to do it more accurately that in case of Mist Dispersion. Also processing of his Magic Calculation Area is not unlimited. So he's probably at max mountain/citybuster. And to be planetbuster he has to be able to release 50 zettatons of energy. Only if you are talking about completely obliterating the planet, with much less the planet turns into a lifeless piece of rock. But still he hasn't shown that he is capable of life-wiping. Even though he hasn't shown it yet, I am pretty sure he is capble to do so. He was able to shot a long range bullet approximately 20 KM, and annihilate all the Enemies ships instantly, and can make 10 Kg matter to be 20 megatons O.O If he had been able to do so, he would probably just destroy whole Great Asian Alliance instead of just fleet. |
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded. |
Jul 28, 2014 1:34 PM
#54
jakkubus said: Seiryuu2 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: He lost his strong emotions and not all his emotion,i.e urges such as love,lust,greed,anger. It was also an unfortunate accident and all that can be left is brotherly love to Miyuki,because Miyuki will live longer than their mother,which why she was chosen and I think they can only put one person more,and if your the mother with such ability to reprogram someone would you chose your son to protect/be loyal to your clan or to his sister,which is also a heir as head candidate.Choosing Miyuki,Miya got 2 birds with one stone,also increasing Miyuki's chance to be the next clan head? lol why were they so sure that Miyuki would support them? Read volume 8,hint [spoiler] Miyuki wasn't really could be called a Tatsuya supporter until that incident (see first few minutes of ep 1 and first OP animation) and was doing all her best to be chosen as next clan head.She was also close to her mother. I read volume 8, what I'm saying is why did they depend on a maybe. They wanted to keep Tatsuya under their tabs, he could be considered the clans secret weapon (I wonder what their goal was- taking over the world o.O ), if he can get angry for Miyuki he can get angry at Miyuki too and turn on them. Didn't the clan think that. Tatsuya powers just got absurdly strong recently he was not a threat in the past but now he may even be threat for the entire planet, if something ever happens with Miyuki again he may turn the planet into dust, mindless nonlinear retaliation is even Yotsuba trademark and proof that Tatsuya is Yotsuba after all also the main reason no one mess with them, be it world powers, japanese government or other magic clans. How he went from citybuster to planetbuster? And vampires aren't aliens? Tatsuya turns matter into energy and until now there's no limit established, he may be able to even turn the moon into pure energy and make the entire solar system go supernova in the process, he also clearly fears MB, even with atomic precision CAD he normally blows more things than he wants to also yes, so-called vampires are inter-dimensional aliens and potential origin of magic and magicians. But IIRC his limit was 20 gigatons, which can destroy Mount Everest four times, but is still far away from seriously damaging planet. No limit established, the biggest thing he targeted with MB was an flag with 1 kg and turned it into 20 megatons but the biggest thing he decomposed was an huge truck, in neither cases was stated that those were his limits, considering that MB is just another type of decomposition you can estimate that Tatsuya may be able to at least turn the same cargo truck into energy, applying Einstein formula to an medium truck with 6,140 kg it generates 1318900000 megatons(1318 teratons) Last time earth was hit by 100 teratons mass extinction happened and 1000 teratons is planet buster. My bad, it was 20 megatons, not gigatons. So it's even nowhere near Mt. Everest. But the fact, that limit of his abilities wasn't shown, doesn't mean it not exist. It is probably around his best performances of MB. Claiming that he has no limits is a bit stupid. After all MB requires complex calculations. Tatsuya has to read design of his target to decompose it and he has to do it more accurately that in case of Mist Dispersion. Also processing of his Magic Calculation Area is not unlimited. So he's probably at max mountain/citybuster. And to be planetbuster he has to be able to release 50 zettatons of energy. Only if you are talking about completely obliterating the planet, with much less the planet turns into a lifeless piece of rock. But still he hasn't shown that he is capable of life-wiping. Even though he hasn't shown it yet, I am pretty sure he is capble to do so. He was able to shot a long range bullet approximately 20 KM, and annihilate all the Enemies ships instantly, and can make 10 Kg matter to be 20 megatons O.O If he had been able to do so, he would probably just destroy whole Great Asian Alliance instead of just fleet. Not really, please think a little, using the same logic nothing would stop him from nuking Yotsuba village, there's something called proportionate counter attack and he even got reprimanded because he killed GAA strategic class magician by mistake and risked upsetting world power balance, why is that? if he blows GAA at least USNA even as Japan ally would most likely declare war against Japan and maybe every single country in the world could do the same, for much less USNA sent their own strategic class magician to get rid of Tatsuya, blowing one world power means picking fight with every single country in the world, even if they aren't allies every nation fights for survival and manage threats, blowing an entire country along with biggest human population in the world means you are ready to make the next move towards elimination of other nations or world domination and they will not allow him to do it without fight, this is also beyond war crime, its beyond impossible even for Tatsuya, unless Miyuki is dead and he is out of his mind, by doing such thing Tatsuya would risk having to deal with every single strategic class magician at same time, nearly impossible feat even for him or the entire japanese magic community. |
SetsunaFromSeieiJul 28, 2014 1:40 PM
Jul 28, 2014 1:58 PM
#55
SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: Seiryuu2 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: He lost his strong emotions and not all his emotion,i.e urges such as love,lust,greed,anger. It was also an unfortunate accident and all that can be left is brotherly love to Miyuki,because Miyuki will live longer than their mother,which why she was chosen and I think they can only put one person more,and if your the mother with such ability to reprogram someone would you chose your son to protect/be loyal to your clan or to his sister,which is also a heir as head candidate.Choosing Miyuki,Miya got 2 birds with one stone,also increasing Miyuki's chance to be the next clan head? lol why were they so sure that Miyuki would support them? Read volume 8,hint [spoiler] Miyuki wasn't really could be called a Tatsuya supporter until that incident (see first few minutes of ep 1 and first OP animation) and was doing all her best to be chosen as next clan head.She was also close to her mother. I read volume 8, what I'm saying is why did they depend on a maybe. They wanted to keep Tatsuya under their tabs, he could be considered the clans secret weapon (I wonder what their goal was- taking over the world o.O ), if he can get angry for Miyuki he can get angry at Miyuki too and turn on them. Didn't the clan think that. Tatsuya powers just got absurdly strong recently he was not a threat in the past but now he may even be threat for the entire planet, if something ever happens with Miyuki again he may turn the planet into dust, mindless nonlinear retaliation is even Yotsuba trademark and proof that Tatsuya is Yotsuba after all also the main reason no one mess with them, be it world powers, japanese government or other magic clans. How he went from citybuster to planetbuster? And vampires aren't aliens? Tatsuya turns matter into energy and until now there's no limit established, he may be able to even turn the moon into pure energy and make the entire solar system go supernova in the process, he also clearly fears MB, even with atomic precision CAD he normally blows more things than he wants to also yes, so-called vampires are inter-dimensional aliens and potential origin of magic and magicians. But IIRC his limit was 20 gigatons, which can destroy Mount Everest four times, but is still far away from seriously damaging planet. No limit established, the biggest thing he targeted with MB was an flag with 1 kg and turned it into 20 megatons but the biggest thing he decomposed was an huge truck, in neither cases was stated that those were his limits, considering that MB is just another type of decomposition you can estimate that Tatsuya may be able to at least turn the same cargo truck into energy, applying Einstein formula to an medium truck with 6,140 kg it generates 1318900000 megatons(1318 teratons) Last time earth was hit by 100 teratons mass extinction happened and 1000 teratons is planet buster. My bad, it was 20 megatons, not gigatons. So it's even nowhere near Mt. Everest. But the fact, that limit of his abilities wasn't shown, doesn't mean it not exist. It is probably around his best performances of MB. Claiming that he has no limits is a bit stupid. After all MB requires complex calculations. Tatsuya has to read design of his target to decompose it and he has to do it more accurately that in case of Mist Dispersion. Also processing of his Magic Calculation Area is not unlimited. So he's probably at max mountain/citybuster. And to be planetbuster he has to be able to release 50 zettatons of energy. Only if you are talking about completely obliterating the planet, with much less the planet turns into a lifeless piece of rock. But still he hasn't shown that he is capable of life-wiping. Even though he hasn't shown it yet, I am pretty sure he is capble to do so. He was able to shot a long range bullet approximately 20 KM, and annihilate all the Enemies ships instantly, and can make 10 Kg matter to be 20 megatons O.O If he had been able to do so, he would probably just destroy whole Great Asian Alliance instead of just fleet. Not really, please think a little, using the same logic nothing would stop him from nuking Yotsuba village, there's something called proportionate counter attack and he even got reprimanded because he killed GAA strategic class magician by mistake and risked upsetting world power balance, why is that? if he blows GAA at least USNA even as Japan ally would most likely declare war against Japan and maybe every single country in the world could do the same, for much less USNA sent their own strategic class magician to get rid of Tatsuya, blowing one world power means picking fight with every single country in the world, even if they aren't allies every nation fights for survival and manage threats, blowing an entire country along with biggest human population in the world means you are ready to make the next move towards elimination of other nations or world domination and they will not allow him to do it without fight, this is also beyond war crime, its beyond impossible even for Tatsuya, unless Miyuki is dead and he is out of his mind, by doing such thing Tatsuya would risk having to deal with every single strategic class magician at same time, nearly impossible feat even for him or the entire japanese magic community. Nope, no country would do anything against someone, who with one spell can obliterate one of global powers. |
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded. |
Jul 28, 2014 2:18 PM
#56
jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: Seiryuu2 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: He lost his strong emotions and not all his emotion,i.e urges such as love,lust,greed,anger. It was also an unfortunate accident and all that can be left is brotherly love to Miyuki,because Miyuki will live longer than their mother,which why she was chosen and I think they can only put one person more,and if your the mother with such ability to reprogram someone would you chose your son to protect/be loyal to your clan or to his sister,which is also a heir as head candidate.Choosing Miyuki,Miya got 2 birds with one stone,also increasing Miyuki's chance to be the next clan head? lol why were they so sure that Miyuki would support them? Read volume 8,hint [spoiler] Miyuki wasn't really could be called a Tatsuya supporter until that incident (see first few minutes of ep 1 and first OP animation) and was doing all her best to be chosen as next clan head.She was also close to her mother. I read volume 8, what I'm saying is why did they depend on a maybe. They wanted to keep Tatsuya under their tabs, he could be considered the clans secret weapon (I wonder what their goal was- taking over the world o.O ), if he can get angry for Miyuki he can get angry at Miyuki too and turn on them. Didn't the clan think that. Tatsuya powers just got absurdly strong recently he was not a threat in the past but now he may even be threat for the entire planet, if something ever happens with Miyuki again he may turn the planet into dust, mindless nonlinear retaliation is even Yotsuba trademark and proof that Tatsuya is Yotsuba after all also the main reason no one mess with them, be it world powers, japanese government or other magic clans. How he went from citybuster to planetbuster? And vampires aren't aliens? Tatsuya turns matter into energy and until now there's no limit established, he may be able to even turn the moon into pure energy and make the entire solar system go supernova in the process, he also clearly fears MB, even with atomic precision CAD he normally blows more things than he wants to also yes, so-called vampires are inter-dimensional aliens and potential origin of magic and magicians. But IIRC his limit was 20 gigatons, which can destroy Mount Everest four times, but is still far away from seriously damaging planet. No limit established, the biggest thing he targeted with MB was an flag with 1 kg and turned it into 20 megatons but the biggest thing he decomposed was an huge truck, in neither cases was stated that those were his limits, considering that MB is just another type of decomposition you can estimate that Tatsuya may be able to at least turn the same cargo truck into energy, applying Einstein formula to an medium truck with 6,140 kg it generates 1318900000 megatons(1318 teratons) Last time earth was hit by 100 teratons mass extinction happened and 1000 teratons is planet buster. My bad, it was 20 megatons, not gigatons. So it's even nowhere near Mt. Everest. But the fact, that limit of his abilities wasn't shown, doesn't mean it not exist. It is probably around his best performances of MB. Claiming that he has no limits is a bit stupid. After all MB requires complex calculations. Tatsuya has to read design of his target to decompose it and he has to do it more accurately that in case of Mist Dispersion. Also processing of his Magic Calculation Area is not unlimited. So he's probably at max mountain/citybuster. And to be planetbuster he has to be able to release 50 zettatons of energy. Only if you are talking about completely obliterating the planet, with much less the planet turns into a lifeless piece of rock. But still he hasn't shown that he is capable of life-wiping. Even though he hasn't shown it yet, I am pretty sure he is capble to do so. He was able to shot a long range bullet approximately 20 KM, and annihilate all the Enemies ships instantly, and can make 10 Kg matter to be 20 megatons O.O If he had been able to do so, he would probably just destroy whole Great Asian Alliance instead of just fleet. Not really, please think a little, using the same logic nothing would stop him from nuking Yotsuba village, there's something called proportionate counter attack and he even got reprimanded because he killed GAA strategic class magician by mistake and risked upsetting world power balance, why is that? if he blows GAA at least USNA even as Japan ally would most likely declare war against Japan and maybe every single country in the world could do the same, for much less USNA sent their own strategic class magician to get rid of Tatsuya, blowing one world power means picking fight with every single country in the world, even if they aren't allies every nation fights for survival and manage threats, blowing an entire country along with biggest human population in the world means you are ready to make the next move towards elimination of other nations or world domination and they will not allow him to do it without fight, this is also beyond war crime, its beyond impossible even for Tatsuya, unless Miyuki is dead and he is out of his mind, by doing such thing Tatsuya would risk having to deal with every single strategic class magician at same time, nearly impossible feat even for him or the entire japanese magic community. Nope, no country would do anything against someone, who with one spell can obliterate one of global powers.[/quote] That's like your opinion but still, he is not allowed to do it regardless, he is not allowed to even kill strategic class magicians in order to not risk upset world balance. |
Jul 28, 2014 3:01 PM
#57
SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: Seiryuu2 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: He lost his strong emotions and not all his emotion,i.e urges such as love,lust,greed,anger. It was also an unfortunate accident and all that can be left is brotherly love to Miyuki,because Miyuki will live longer than their mother,which why she was chosen and I think they can only put one person more,and if your the mother with such ability to reprogram someone would you chose your son to protect/be loyal to your clan or to his sister,which is also a heir as head candidate.Choosing Miyuki,Miya got 2 birds with one stone,also increasing Miyuki's chance to be the next clan head? lol why were they so sure that Miyuki would support them? Read volume 8,hint [spoiler] Miyuki wasn't really could be called a Tatsuya supporter until that incident (see first few minutes of ep 1 and first OP animation) and was doing all her best to be chosen as next clan head.She was also close to her mother. I read volume 8, what I'm saying is why did they depend on a maybe. They wanted to keep Tatsuya under their tabs, he could be considered the clans secret weapon (I wonder what their goal was- taking over the world o.O ), if he can get angry for Miyuki he can get angry at Miyuki too and turn on them. Didn't the clan think that. Tatsuya powers just got absurdly strong recently he was not a threat in the past but now he may even be threat for the entire planet, if something ever happens with Miyuki again he may turn the planet into dust, mindless nonlinear retaliation is even Yotsuba trademark and proof that Tatsuya is Yotsuba after all also the main reason no one mess with them, be it world powers, japanese government or other magic clans. How he went from citybuster to planetbuster? And vampires aren't aliens? Tatsuya turns matter into energy and until now there's no limit established, he may be able to even turn the moon into pure energy and make the entire solar system go supernova in the process, he also clearly fears MB, even with atomic precision CAD he normally blows more things than he wants to also yes, so-called vampires are inter-dimensional aliens and potential origin of magic and magicians. But IIRC his limit was 20 gigatons, which can destroy Mount Everest four times, but is still far away from seriously damaging planet. No limit established, the biggest thing he targeted with MB was an flag with 1 kg and turned it into 20 megatons but the biggest thing he decomposed was an huge truck, in neither cases was stated that those were his limits, considering that MB is just another type of decomposition you can estimate that Tatsuya may be able to at least turn the same cargo truck into energy, applying Einstein formula to an medium truck with 6,140 kg it generates 1318900000 megatons(1318 teratons) Last time earth was hit by 100 teratons mass extinction happened and 1000 teratons is planet buster. My bad, it was 20 megatons, not gigatons. So it's even nowhere near Mt. Everest. But the fact, that limit of his abilities wasn't shown, doesn't mean it not exist. It is probably around his best performances of MB. Claiming that he has no limits is a bit stupid. After all MB requires complex calculations. Tatsuya has to read design of his target to decompose it and he has to do it more accurately that in case of Mist Dispersion. Also processing of his Magic Calculation Area is not unlimited. So he's probably at max mountain/citybuster. And to be planetbuster he has to be able to release 50 zettatons of energy. Only if you are talking about completely obliterating the planet, with much less the planet turns into a lifeless piece of rock. But still he hasn't shown that he is capable of life-wiping. Even though he hasn't shown it yet, I am pretty sure he is capble to do so. He was able to shot a long range bullet approximately 20 KM, and annihilate all the Enemies ships instantly, and can make 10 Kg matter to be 20 megatons O.O If he had been able to do so, he would probably just destroy whole Great Asian Alliance instead of just fleet. Not really, please think a little, using the same logic nothing would stop him from nuking Yotsuba village, there's something called proportionate counter attack and he even got reprimanded because he killed GAA strategic class magician by mistake and risked upsetting world power balance, why is that? if he blows GAA at least USNA even as Japan ally would most likely declare war against Japan and maybe every single country in the world could do the same, for much less USNA sent their own strategic class magician to get rid of Tatsuya, blowing one world power means picking fight with every single country in the world, even if they aren't allies every nation fights for survival and manage threats, blowing an entire country along with biggest human population in the world means you are ready to make the next move towards elimination of other nations or world domination and they will not allow him to do it without fight, this is also beyond war crime, its beyond impossible even for Tatsuya, unless Miyuki is dead and he is out of his mind, by doing such thing Tatsuya would risk having to deal with every single strategic class magician at same time, nearly impossible feat even for him or the entire japanese magic community. Nope, no country would do anything against someone, who with one spell can obliterate one of global powers. That's like your opinion but still, he is not allowed to do it regardless, he is not allowed to even kill strategic class magicians in order to not risk upset world balance.[/quote] If he would be that powerful, Japan would not have to care about world balance... |
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded. |
Jul 29, 2014 4:12 AM
#58
Emnay said: Doesn't need it. He's god. |
The world shall know the truth soon. |
Jul 29, 2014 5:00 AM
#59
jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: Seiryuu2 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: He lost his strong emotions and not all his emotion,i.e urges such as love,lust,greed,anger. It was also an unfortunate accident and all that can be left is brotherly love to Miyuki,because Miyuki will live longer than their mother,which why she was chosen and I think they can only put one person more,and if your the mother with such ability to reprogram someone would you chose your son to protect/be loyal to your clan or to his sister,which is also a heir as head candidate.Choosing Miyuki,Miya got 2 birds with one stone,also increasing Miyuki's chance to be the next clan head? lol why were they so sure that Miyuki would support them? Read volume 8,hint [spoiler] Miyuki wasn't really could be called a Tatsuya supporter until that incident (see first few minutes of ep 1 and first OP animation) and was doing all her best to be chosen as next clan head.She was also close to her mother. I read volume 8, what I'm saying is why did they depend on a maybe. They wanted to keep Tatsuya under their tabs, he could be considered the clans secret weapon (I wonder what their goal was- taking over the world o.O ), if he can get angry for Miyuki he can get angry at Miyuki too and turn on them. Didn't the clan think that. Tatsuya powers just got absurdly strong recently he was not a threat in the past but now he may even be threat for the entire planet, if something ever happens with Miyuki again he may turn the planet into dust, mindless nonlinear retaliation is even Yotsuba trademark and proof that Tatsuya is Yotsuba after all also the main reason no one mess with them, be it world powers, japanese government or other magic clans. How he went from citybuster to planetbuster? And vampires aren't aliens? Tatsuya turns matter into energy and until now there's no limit established, he may be able to even turn the moon into pure energy and make the entire solar system go supernova in the process, he also clearly fears MB, even with atomic precision CAD he normally blows more things than he wants to also yes, so-called vampires are inter-dimensional aliens and potential origin of magic and magicians. But IIRC his limit was 20 gigatons, which can destroy Mount Everest four times, but is still far away from seriously damaging planet. No limit established, the biggest thing he targeted with MB was an flag with 1 kg and turned it into 20 megatons but the biggest thing he decomposed was an huge truck, in neither cases was stated that those were his limits, considering that MB is just another type of decomposition you can estimate that Tatsuya may be able to at least turn the same cargo truck into energy, applying Einstein formula to an medium truck with 6,140 kg it generates 1318900000 megatons(1318 teratons) Last time earth was hit by 100 teratons mass extinction happened and 1000 teratons is planet buster. My bad, it was 20 megatons, not gigatons. So it's even nowhere near Mt. Everest. But the fact, that limit of his abilities wasn't shown, doesn't mean it not exist. It is probably around his best performances of MB. Claiming that he has no limits is a bit stupid. After all MB requires complex calculations. Tatsuya has to read design of his target to decompose it and he has to do it more accurately that in case of Mist Dispersion. Also processing of his Magic Calculation Area is not unlimited. So he's probably at max mountain/citybuster. And to be planetbuster he has to be able to release 50 zettatons of energy. Only if you are talking about completely obliterating the planet, with much less the planet turns into a lifeless piece of rock. But still he hasn't shown that he is capable of life-wiping. Even though he hasn't shown it yet, I am pretty sure he is capble to do so. He was able to shot a long range bullet approximately 20 KM, and annihilate all the Enemies ships instantly, and can make 10 Kg matter to be 20 megatons O.O If he had been able to do so, he would probably just destroy whole Great Asian Alliance instead of just fleet. Not really, please think a little, using the same logic nothing would stop him from nuking Yotsuba village, there's something called proportionate counter attack and he even got reprimanded because he killed GAA strategic class magician by mistake and risked upsetting world power balance, why is that? if he blows GAA at least USNA even as Japan ally would most likely declare war against Japan and maybe every single country in the world could do the same, for much less USNA sent their own strategic class magician to get rid of Tatsuya, blowing one world power means picking fight with every single country in the world, even if they aren't allies every nation fights for survival and manage threats, blowing an entire country along with biggest human population in the world means you are ready to make the next move towards elimination of other nations or world domination and they will not allow him to do it without fight, this is also beyond war crime, its beyond impossible even for Tatsuya, unless Miyuki is dead and he is out of his mind, by doing such thing Tatsuya would risk having to deal with every single strategic class magician at same time, nearly impossible feat even for him or the entire japanese magic community. Nope, no country would do anything against someone, who with one spell can obliterate one of global powers. That's like your opinion but still, he is not allowed to do it regardless, he is not allowed to even kill strategic class magicians in order to not risk upset world balance. If he would be that powerful, Japan would not have to care about world balance...[/quote] It funny we're taking about world destruction and the quotes got so long 0.0 |
As of 27/7/14 I have decided trap anime Sword Art Online II has more appeal than Mahouka. |
Jul 29, 2014 5:33 AM
#60
fear80 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: Seiryuu2 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: He lost his strong emotions and not all his emotion,i.e urges such as love,lust,greed,anger. It was also an unfortunate accident and all that can be left is brotherly love to Miyuki,because Miyuki will live longer than their mother,which why she was chosen and I think they can only put one person more,and if your the mother with such ability to reprogram someone would you chose your son to protect/be loyal to your clan or to his sister,which is also a heir as head candidate.Choosing Miyuki,Miya got 2 birds with one stone,also increasing Miyuki's chance to be the next clan head? lol why were they so sure that Miyuki would support them? Read volume 8,hint [spoiler] Miyuki wasn't really could be called a Tatsuya supporter until that incident (see first few minutes of ep 1 and first OP animation) and was doing all her best to be chosen as next clan head.She was also close to her mother. I read volume 8, what I'm saying is why did they depend on a maybe. They wanted to keep Tatsuya under their tabs, he could be considered the clans secret weapon (I wonder what their goal was- taking over the world o.O ), if he can get angry for Miyuki he can get angry at Miyuki too and turn on them. Didn't the clan think that. Tatsuya powers just got absurdly strong recently he was not a threat in the past but now he may even be threat for the entire planet, if something ever happens with Miyuki again he may turn the planet into dust, mindless nonlinear retaliation is even Yotsuba trademark and proof that Tatsuya is Yotsuba after all also the main reason no one mess with them, be it world powers, japanese government or other magic clans. How he went from citybuster to planetbuster? And vampires aren't aliens? Tatsuya turns matter into energy and until now there's no limit established, he may be able to even turn the moon into pure energy and make the entire solar system go supernova in the process, he also clearly fears MB, even with atomic precision CAD he normally blows more things than he wants to also yes, so-called vampires are inter-dimensional aliens and potential origin of magic and magicians. But IIRC his limit was 20 gigatons, which can destroy Mount Everest four times, but is still far away from seriously damaging planet. No limit established, the biggest thing he targeted with MB was an flag with 1 kg and turned it into 20 megatons but the biggest thing he decomposed was an huge truck, in neither cases was stated that those were his limits, considering that MB is just another type of decomposition you can estimate that Tatsuya may be able to at least turn the same cargo truck into energy, applying Einstein formula to an medium truck with 6,140 kg it generates 1318900000 megatons(1318 teratons) Last time earth was hit by 100 teratons mass extinction happened and 1000 teratons is planet buster. My bad, it was 20 megatons, not gigatons. So it's even nowhere near Mt. Everest. But the fact, that limit of his abilities wasn't shown, doesn't mean it not exist. It is probably around his best performances of MB. Claiming that he has no limits is a bit stupid. After all MB requires complex calculations. Tatsuya has to read design of his target to decompose it and he has to do it more accurately that in case of Mist Dispersion. Also processing of his Magic Calculation Area is not unlimited. So he's probably at max mountain/citybuster. And to be planetbuster he has to be able to release 50 zettatons of energy. Only if you are talking about completely obliterating the planet, with much less the planet turns into a lifeless piece of rock. But still he hasn't shown that he is capable of life-wiping. Even though he hasn't shown it yet, I am pretty sure he is capble to do so. He was able to shot a long range bullet approximately 20 KM, and annihilate all the Enemies ships instantly, and can make 10 Kg matter to be 20 megatons O.O If he had been able to do so, he would probably just destroy whole Great Asian Alliance instead of just fleet. Not really, please think a little, using the same logic nothing would stop him from nuking Yotsuba village, there's something called proportionate counter attack and he even got reprimanded because he killed GAA strategic class magician by mistake and risked upsetting world power balance, why is that? if he blows GAA at least USNA even as Japan ally would most likely declare war against Japan and maybe every single country in the world could do the same, for much less USNA sent their own strategic class magician to get rid of Tatsuya, blowing one world power means picking fight with every single country in the world, even if they aren't allies every nation fights for survival and manage threats, blowing an entire country along with biggest human population in the world means you are ready to make the next move towards elimination of other nations or world domination and they will not allow him to do it without fight, this is also beyond war crime, its beyond impossible even for Tatsuya, unless Miyuki is dead and he is out of his mind, by doing such thing Tatsuya would risk having to deal with every single strategic class magician at same time, nearly impossible feat even for him or the entire japanese magic community. Nope, no country would do anything against someone, who with one spell can obliterate one of global powers. That's like your opinion but still, he is not allowed to do it regardless, he is not allowed to even kill strategic class magicians in order to not risk upset world balance. If he would be that powerful, Japan would not have to care about world balance... It funny we're taking about world destruction and the quotes got so long 0.0[/quote] And the most funny thing is that we are doing it in thread about Tatsuya's emotions. |
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded. |
Jul 29, 2014 7:05 AM
#61
jakkubus said: fear80 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: Seiryuu2 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: He lost his strong emotions and not all his emotion,i.e urges such as love,lust,greed,anger. It was also an unfortunate accident and all that can be left is brotherly love to Miyuki,because Miyuki will live longer than their mother,which why she was chosen and I think they can only put one person more,and if your the mother with such ability to reprogram someone would you chose your son to protect/be loyal to your clan or to his sister,which is also a heir as head candidate.Choosing Miyuki,Miya got 2 birds with one stone,also increasing Miyuki's chance to be the next clan head? lol why were they so sure that Miyuki would support them? Read volume 8,hint [spoiler] Miyuki wasn't really could be called a Tatsuya supporter until that incident (see first few minutes of ep 1 and first OP animation) and was doing all her best to be chosen as next clan head.She was also close to her mother. I read volume 8, what I'm saying is why did they depend on a maybe. They wanted to keep Tatsuya under their tabs, he could be considered the clans secret weapon (I wonder what their goal was- taking over the world o.O ), if he can get angry for Miyuki he can get angry at Miyuki too and turn on them. Didn't the clan think that. Tatsuya powers just got absurdly strong recently he was not a threat in the past but now he may even be threat for the entire planet, if something ever happens with Miyuki again he may turn the planet into dust, mindless nonlinear retaliation is even Yotsuba trademark and proof that Tatsuya is Yotsuba after all also the main reason no one mess with them, be it world powers, japanese government or other magic clans. How he went from citybuster to planetbuster? And vampires aren't aliens? Tatsuya turns matter into energy and until now there's no limit established, he may be able to even turn the moon into pure energy and make the entire solar system go supernova in the process, he also clearly fears MB, even with atomic precision CAD he normally blows more things than he wants to also yes, so-called vampires are inter-dimensional aliens and potential origin of magic and magicians. But IIRC his limit was 20 gigatons, which can destroy Mount Everest four times, but is still far away from seriously damaging planet. No limit established, the biggest thing he targeted with MB was an flag with 1 kg and turned it into 20 megatons but the biggest thing he decomposed was an huge truck, in neither cases was stated that those were his limits, considering that MB is just another type of decomposition you can estimate that Tatsuya may be able to at least turn the same cargo truck into energy, applying Einstein formula to an medium truck with 6,140 kg it generates 1318900000 megatons(1318 teratons) Last time earth was hit by 100 teratons mass extinction happened and 1000 teratons is planet buster. My bad, it was 20 megatons, not gigatons. So it's even nowhere near Mt. Everest. But the fact, that limit of his abilities wasn't shown, doesn't mean it not exist. It is probably around his best performances of MB. Claiming that he has no limits is a bit stupid. After all MB requires complex calculations. Tatsuya has to read design of his target to decompose it and he has to do it more accurately that in case of Mist Dispersion. Also processing of his Magic Calculation Area is not unlimited. So he's probably at max mountain/citybuster. And to be planetbuster he has to be able to release 50 zettatons of energy. Only if you are talking about completely obliterating the planet, with much less the planet turns into a lifeless piece of rock. But still he hasn't shown that he is capable of life-wiping. Even though he hasn't shown it yet, I am pretty sure he is capble to do so. He was able to shot a long range bullet approximately 20 KM, and annihilate all the Enemies ships instantly, and can make 10 Kg matter to be 20 megatons O.O If he had been able to do so, he would probably just destroy whole Great Asian Alliance instead of just fleet. Not really, please think a little, using the same logic nothing would stop him from nuking Yotsuba village, there's something called proportionate counter attack and he even got reprimanded because he killed GAA strategic class magician by mistake and risked upsetting world power balance, why is that? if he blows GAA at least USNA even as Japan ally would most likely declare war against Japan and maybe every single country in the world could do the same, for much less USNA sent their own strategic class magician to get rid of Tatsuya, blowing one world power means picking fight with every single country in the world, even if they aren't allies every nation fights for survival and manage threats, blowing an entire country along with biggest human population in the world means you are ready to make the next move towards elimination of other nations or world domination and they will not allow him to do it without fight, this is also beyond war crime, its beyond impossible even for Tatsuya, unless Miyuki is dead and he is out of his mind, by doing such thing Tatsuya would risk having to deal with every single strategic class magician at same time, nearly impossible feat even for him or the entire japanese magic community. Nope, no country would do anything against someone, who with one spell can obliterate one of global powers. That's like your opinion but still, he is not allowed to do it regardless, he is not allowed to even kill strategic class magicians in order to not risk upset world balance. If he would be that powerful, Japan would not have to care about world balance... It funny we're taking about world destruction and the quotes got so long 0.0 And the most funny thing is that we are doing it in thread about Tatsuya's emotions.[/quote] ....... it's not surprising for some reason. |
As of 27/7/14 I have decided trap anime Sword Art Online II has more appeal than Mahouka. |
Jul 30, 2014 10:52 AM
#62
@ jakkubus spoiler regarding world power balance [spoiler] there are at least 13 known SC magicians near Tatusya's level in SC magic destructive power,or could surpass it,what are you talking about?USNA has like 3 registered and 1 almost took out Tatsuya is she didn't just hesitated. Masaki can't marry Miyuki,she's the heir as clan head and he's the heir for his clan.You can't marry off heir clan heads to one another,but you can marry their sister or brother to one another,main reason why we have many Tatsuya x Mayumi shippers and the history of the Saegusa and Yotsuba clans :). |
Jul 30, 2014 11:23 AM
#63
darkreaperix said: @ jakkubus spoiler regarding world power balance there are at least 13 known SC magicians near Tatusya's level in SC magic destructive power,or could surpass it,what are you talking about?USNA has like 3 registered and 1 almost took out Tatsuya is she didn't just hesitated. Masaki can't marry Miyuki,she's the heir as clan head and he's the heir for his clan.You can't marry off heir clan heads to one another,but you can marry their sister or brother to one another,main reason why we have many Tatsuya x Mayumi shippers and the history of the Saegusa and Yotsuba clans :). You didn't read my posts, did you? I wrote that Tatsuya would not have to care about world balance if he could destroy whole Great Asian Alliance in one spell. Miyuki is not heir of Yotsuba. She is just most possible candidate to succeed the family's Head position in future. Also weren't Koichi and Maya engaged despite both being heirs of their clans? |
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded. |
Jul 30, 2014 11:35 AM
#64
jakkubus said: You didn't read my posts, did you? I wrote that Tatsuya would not have to care about world balance if he could destroy whole Great Asian Alliance in one spell. Miyuki is not heir of Yotsuba. She is just most possible candidate to succeed the family's Head position in future. Also weren't Koichi and Maya engaged despite both being heirs of their clans? That happens when post gets too long :) [spoiler] I can't remember where I read it,but Miya was supposed to the heir as she is the oldest daughter,so Maya can be engaged to Koichi. |
Jul 30, 2014 1:27 PM
#65
darkreaperix said: That happens when post gets too long :) I can't remember where I read it,but Miya was supposed to the heir as she is the oldest daughter,so Maya can be engaged to Koichi. But Miyuki is not only future Yotsuba heir candidate. There is also her cousin. Also her identity as Yostuba is secret, so she theoretically can marry future Head of other clan. |
jakkubusJul 30, 2014 1:46 PM
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded. |
Jul 30, 2014 1:39 PM
#66
fear80 said: jakkubus said: fear80 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: Seiryuu2 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: He lost his strong emotions and not all his emotion,i.e urges such as love,lust,greed,anger. It was also an unfortunate accident and all that can be left is brotherly love to Miyuki,because Miyuki will live longer than their mother,which why she was chosen and I think they can only put one person more,and if your the mother with such ability to reprogram someone would you chose your son to protect/be loyal to your clan or to his sister,which is also a heir as head candidate.Choosing Miyuki,Miya got 2 birds with one stone,also increasing Miyuki's chance to be the next clan head? lol why were they so sure that Miyuki would support them? Read volume 8,hint [spoiler] Miyuki wasn't really could be called a Tatsuya supporter until that incident (see first few minutes of ep 1 and first OP animation) and was doing all her best to be chosen as next clan head.She was also close to her mother. I read volume 8, what I'm saying is why did they depend on a maybe. They wanted to keep Tatsuya under their tabs, he could be considered the clans secret weapon (I wonder what their goal was- taking over the world o.O ), if he can get angry for Miyuki he can get angry at Miyuki too and turn on them. Didn't the clan think that. Tatsuya powers just got absurdly strong recently he was not a threat in the past but now he may even be threat for the entire planet, if something ever happens with Miyuki again he may turn the planet into dust, mindless nonlinear retaliation is even Yotsuba trademark and proof that Tatsuya is Yotsuba after all also the main reason no one mess with them, be it world powers, japanese government or other magic clans. How he went from citybuster to planetbuster? And vampires aren't aliens? Tatsuya turns matter into energy and until now there's no limit established, he may be able to even turn the moon into pure energy and make the entire solar system go supernova in the process, he also clearly fears MB, even with atomic precision CAD he normally blows more things than he wants to also yes, so-called vampires are inter-dimensional aliens and potential origin of magic and magicians. But IIRC his limit was 20 gigatons, which can destroy Mount Everest four times, but is still far away from seriously damaging planet. No limit established, the biggest thing he targeted with MB was an flag with 1 kg and turned it into 20 megatons but the biggest thing he decomposed was an huge truck, in neither cases was stated that those were his limits, considering that MB is just another type of decomposition you can estimate that Tatsuya may be able to at least turn the same cargo truck into energy, applying Einstein formula to an medium truck with 6,140 kg it generates 1318900000 megatons(1318 teratons) Last time earth was hit by 100 teratons mass extinction happened and 1000 teratons is planet buster. My bad, it was 20 megatons, not gigatons. So it's even nowhere near Mt. Everest. But the fact, that limit of his abilities wasn't shown, doesn't mean it not exist. It is probably around his best performances of MB. Claiming that he has no limits is a bit stupid. After all MB requires complex calculations. Tatsuya has to read design of his target to decompose it and he has to do it more accurately that in case of Mist Dispersion. Also processing of his Magic Calculation Area is not unlimited. So he's probably at max mountain/citybuster. And to be planetbuster he has to be able to release 50 zettatons of energy. Only if you are talking about completely obliterating the planet, with much less the planet turns into a lifeless piece of rock. But still he hasn't shown that he is capable of life-wiping. Even though he hasn't shown it yet, I am pretty sure he is capble to do so. He was able to shot a long range bullet approximately 20 KM, and annihilate all the Enemies ships instantly, and can make 10 Kg matter to be 20 megatons O.O If he had been able to do so, he would probably just destroy whole Great Asian Alliance instead of just fleet. Not really, please think a little, using the same logic nothing would stop him from nuking Yotsuba village, there's something called proportionate counter attack and he even got reprimanded because he killed GAA strategic class magician by mistake and risked upsetting world power balance, why is that? if he blows GAA at least USNA even as Japan ally would most likely declare war against Japan and maybe every single country in the world could do the same, for much less USNA sent their own strategic class magician to get rid of Tatsuya, blowing one world power means picking fight with every single country in the world, even if they aren't allies every nation fights for survival and manage threats, blowing an entire country along with biggest human population in the world means you are ready to make the next move towards elimination of other nations or world domination and they will not allow him to do it without fight, this is also beyond war crime, its beyond impossible even for Tatsuya, unless Miyuki is dead and he is out of his mind, by doing such thing Tatsuya would risk having to deal with every single strategic class magician at same time, nearly impossible feat even for him or the entire japanese magic community. Nope, no country would do anything against someone, who with one spell can obliterate one of global powers. That's like your opinion but still, he is not allowed to do it regardless, he is not allowed to even kill strategic class magicians in order to not risk upset world balance. If he would be that powerful, Japan would not have to care about world balance... It funny we're taking about world destruction and the quotes got so long 0.0 And the most funny thing is that we are doing it in thread about Tatsuya's emotions. ....... it's not surprising for some reason.[/quote]This quote pyramid is magnificent. |
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Jul 30, 2014 4:27 PM
#67
jakkubus said: darkreaperix said: That happens when post gets too long :) I can't remember where I read it,but Miya was supposed to the heir as she is the oldest daughter,so Maya can be engaged to Koichi. But Miyuki is not only future Yotsuba heir candidate. There is also her cousin. Also her identity as Yostuba is secret, so she theoretically can marry future Head of other clan. They wont go as far as marrying her off just because her Identity is a secret.... They will simply politely refuse and make up an excuse for it. [spoiler] It's pretty much confirmed at this point that Miyuki will be the next head. We have heard Maya Yotsuba the current head confirm that she will be and Aoki also talked as if it was a sure thing in volume 3. Also Miya was the heir candidate in the past allowing the Maya/Koichi paring and also it has never been 100% confirmed either that Koichi was actually the Saegusa heir at that point in time either from memory. And what do you mean Tatsuya doesn't have to care about world balance just because he could end life of earth? Of course he does. It isn't like he wants to obliterate life on earth. If he was proven to be a threat to man kind the USNA would have options. They could either 1) Try to nuke Tatsuya before he nukes them. 2) Send in undercover agents to assassinate him like in the visitor arc. Even if they know Tatsuya is planet ending nuke level they still wont know about regrowth. Sniping him would likely seem a good option. The point is revealing that kind of power would only lead to all kinds of trouble, not to mention Miyuki probably wouldn't want him being viewed as that kind of weapon which is reason enough for him to not completely destroy them. |
SomeRandJul 30, 2014 4:33 PM
Jul 31, 2014 3:56 AM
#68
SomeRand said: [/quote]jakkubus said: darkreaperix said: That happens when post gets too long :) I can't remember where I read it,but Miya was supposed to the heir as she is the oldest daughter,so Maya can be engaged to Koichi. But Miyuki is not only future Yotsuba heir candidate. There is also her cousin. Also her identity as Yostuba is secret, so she theoretically can marry future Head of other clan. They wont go as far as marrying her off just because her Identity is a secret.... They will simply politely refuse and make up an excuse for it. [spoiler] It's pretty much confirmed at this point that Miyuki will be the next head. We have heard Maya Yotsuba the current head confirm that she will be and Aoki also talked as if it was a sure thing in volume 3. Also Miya was the heir candidate in the past allowing the Maya/Koichi paring and also it has never been 100% confirmed either that Koichi was actually the Saegusa heir at that point in time either from memory. And what do you mean Tatsuya doesn't have to care about world balance just because he could end life of earth? Of course he does. It isn't like he wants to obliterate life on earth. If he was proven to be a threat to man kind the USNA would have options. They could either 1) Try to nuke Tatsuya before he nukes them. 2) Send in undercover agents to assassinate him like in the visitor arc. Even if they know Tatsuya is planet ending nuke level they still wont know about regrowth. Sniping him would likely seem a good option. The point is revealing that kind of power would only lead to all kinds of trouble, not to mention Miyuki probably wouldn't want him being viewed as that kind of weapon which is reason enough for him to not completely destroy them. But there are still other candidates, so if she got married, the next candidate would become heir. And if Tatsuya could wipe the life on Earth or destroy global power in one spell, Japan simply could create new world balance. His existence would be like the sword of Damocles to other countries. Also Mahouka magic is based on magician's calculations, so it can't be unlimited and power of Material Burst, that Tatsuya performed, was already out of reach for most of SC magicians, so I doubt he can get far further. Probably he can make his MB two times stronger, five times stronger or even ten times stronger, but he rarther is not going to reach gigaton of energy. |
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded. |
Jul 31, 2014 5:14 AM
#69
jakkubus said: But there are still other candidates, so if she got married, the next candidate would become heir. And if Tatsuya could wipe the life on Earth or destroy global power in one spell, Japan simply could create new world balance. His existence would be like the sword of Damocles to other countries. Also Mahouka magic is based on magician's calculations, so it can't be unlimited and power of Material Burst, that Tatsuya performed, was already out of reach for most of SC magicians, so I doubt he can get far further. Probably he can make his MB two times stronger, five times stronger or even ten times stronger, but he rarther is not going to reach gigaton of energy. Miyuki is the sure heir just because of Tatsuya,no other options,just to control their strongest "warrior" as well as strongest possible opponent.So they can't marry her off to any 10MC heir or head,and I believed it's the Yotsuba that will choose her partner and will definitely politely decline anyone they aren't interested in,or disadvantageous for political reasons.They will definitely just marry her to anyone that has either stronger psion count or has really strong magics that her child can possibly inherit. |
Jul 31, 2014 5:20 AM
#70
darkreaperix said: Miyuki is the sure heir just because of Tatsuya,no other options,just to control their strongest "warrior" as well as strongest possible opponent.So they can't marry her off to any 10MC heir or head,and I believed it's the Yotsuba that will choose her partner and will definitely politely decline anyone they aren't interested in,or disadvantageous for political reasons.They will definitely just marry her to anyone that has either stronger psion count or has really strong magics that her child can possibly inherit. It would be great if they made her marry Morisaki. :P |
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded. |
Aug 2, 2014 6:51 AM
#71
jakkubus said: darkreaperix said: Miyuki is the sure heir just because of Tatsuya,no other options,just to control their strongest "warrior" as well as strongest possible opponent.So they can't marry her off to any 10MC heir or head,and I believed it's the Yotsuba that will choose her partner and will definitely politely decline anyone they aren't interested in,or disadvantageous for political reasons.They will definitely just marry her to anyone that has either stronger psion count or has really strong magics that her child can possibly inherit. It would be great if they made her marry Morisaki. :P Nah he doesn't have anything special,Cardinal George would be a better choice because he is a genius probably near Tatsuya's level (in regarding to magic research and such stuff). |
Aug 2, 2014 7:08 AM
#72
darkreaperix said: jakkubus said: darkreaperix said: Miyuki is the sure heir just because of Tatsuya,no other options,just to control their strongest "warrior" as well as strongest possible opponent.So they can't marry her off to any 10MC heir or head,and I believed it's the Yotsuba that will choose her partner and will definitely politely decline anyone they aren't interested in,or disadvantageous for political reasons.They will definitely just marry her to anyone that has either stronger psion count or has really strong magics that her child can possibly inherit. It would be great if they made her marry Morisaki. :P Nah he doesn't have anything special,Cardinal George would be a better choice because he is a genius probably near Tatsuya's level (in regarding to magic research and such stuff). Cardinal George would probably refuse to marry someone, who refused Masaki's offer. Also it would be great if Morisaki was Tatsuya's brother-in-law. :P |
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded. |
Aug 3, 2014 8:14 PM
#73
..............................What emotions? |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
Aug 3, 2014 10:51 PM
#74
Sapewloth said: This quote pyramid is magnificent.[/quote]fear80 said: jakkubus said: fear80 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: Seiryuu2 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: He lost his strong emotions and not all his emotion,i.e urges such as love,lust,greed,anger. It was also an unfortunate accident and all that can be left is brotherly love to Miyuki,because Miyuki will live longer than their mother,which why she was chosen and I think they can only put one person more,and if your the mother with such ability to reprogram someone would you chose your son to protect/be loyal to your clan or to his sister,which is also a heir as head candidate.Choosing Miyuki,Miya got 2 birds with one stone,also increasing Miyuki's chance to be the next clan head? lol why were they so sure that Miyuki would support them? Read volume 8,hint [spoiler] Miyuki wasn't really could be called a Tatsuya supporter until that incident (see first few minutes of ep 1 and first OP animation) and was doing all her best to be chosen as next clan head.She was also close to her mother. I read volume 8, what I'm saying is why did they depend on a maybe. They wanted to keep Tatsuya under their tabs, he could be considered the clans secret weapon (I wonder what their goal was- taking over the world o.O ), if he can get angry for Miyuki he can get angry at Miyuki too and turn on them. Didn't the clan think that. Tatsuya powers just got absurdly strong recently he was not a threat in the past but now he may even be threat for the entire planet, if something ever happens with Miyuki again he may turn the planet into dust, mindless nonlinear retaliation is even Yotsuba trademark and proof that Tatsuya is Yotsuba after all also the main reason no one mess with them, be it world powers, japanese government or other magic clans. How he went from citybuster to planetbuster? And vampires aren't aliens? Tatsuya turns matter into energy and until now there's no limit established, he may be able to even turn the moon into pure energy and make the entire solar system go supernova in the process, he also clearly fears MB, even with atomic precision CAD he normally blows more things than he wants to also yes, so-called vampires are inter-dimensional aliens and potential origin of magic and magicians. But IIRC his limit was 20 gigatons, which can destroy Mount Everest four times, but is still far away from seriously damaging planet. No limit established, the biggest thing he targeted with MB was an flag with 1 kg and turned it into 20 megatons but the biggest thing he decomposed was an huge truck, in neither cases was stated that those were his limits, considering that MB is just another type of decomposition you can estimate that Tatsuya may be able to at least turn the same cargo truck into energy, applying Einstein formula to an medium truck with 6,140 kg it generates 1318900000 megatons(1318 teratons) Last time earth was hit by 100 teratons mass extinction happened and 1000 teratons is planet buster. My bad, it was 20 megatons, not gigatons. So it's even nowhere near Mt. Everest. But the fact, that limit of his abilities wasn't shown, doesn't mean it not exist. It is probably around his best performances of MB. Claiming that he has no limits is a bit stupid. After all MB requires complex calculations. Tatsuya has to read design of his target to decompose it and he has to do it more accurately that in case of Mist Dispersion. Also processing of his Magic Calculation Area is not unlimited. So he's probably at max mountain/citybuster. And to be planetbuster he has to be able to release 50 zettatons of energy. Only if you are talking about completely obliterating the planet, with much less the planet turns into a lifeless piece of rock. But still he hasn't shown that he is capable of life-wiping. Even though he hasn't shown it yet, I am pretty sure he is capble to do so. He was able to shot a long range bullet approximately 20 KM, and annihilate all the Enemies ships instantly, and can make 10 Kg matter to be 20 megatons O.O If he had been able to do so, he would probably just destroy whole Great Asian Alliance instead of just fleet. Not really, please think a little, using the same logic nothing would stop him from nuking Yotsuba village, there's something called proportionate counter attack and he even got reprimanded because he killed GAA strategic class magician by mistake and risked upsetting world power balance, why is that? if he blows GAA at least USNA even as Japan ally would most likely declare war against Japan and maybe every single country in the world could do the same, for much less USNA sent their own strategic class magician to get rid of Tatsuya, blowing one world power means picking fight with every single country in the world, even if they aren't allies every nation fights for survival and manage threats, blowing an entire country along with biggest human population in the world means you are ready to make the next move towards elimination of other nations or world domination and they will not allow him to do it without fight, this is also beyond war crime, its beyond impossible even for Tatsuya, unless Miyuki is dead and he is out of his mind, by doing such thing Tatsuya would risk having to deal with every single strategic class magician at same time, nearly impossible feat even for him or the entire japanese magic community. Nope, no country would do anything against someone, who with one spell can obliterate one of global powers. That's like your opinion but still, he is not allowed to do it regardless, he is not allowed to even kill strategic class magicians in order to not risk upset world balance. If he would be that powerful, Japan would not have to care about world balance... It funny we're taking about world destruction and the quotes got so long 0.0 And the most funny thing is that we are doing it in thread about Tatsuya's emotions. ....... it's not surprising for some reason. Indeed. |
As of 27/7/14 I have decided trap anime Sword Art Online II has more appeal than Mahouka. |
Aug 11, 2014 5:46 AM
#75
The whole thing about losing his emotion but not his emotion for Miyuki feel like an excuse to strengthen incest relationship between the two of them. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Aug 11, 2014 7:33 AM
#76
Zapredon said: The whole thing about losing his emotion but not his emotion for Miyuki feel like an excuse to strengthen incest relationship between the two of them. It's sisterly love you know not romantic love in his case. |
Aug 11, 2014 1:28 PM
#77
To answer the question of how Tatsuya can still have emotions towards Miyuki, his mother had rewired his brain using her magic, by changing the part of his brain that is supposed to support emotion into the calculation area of the brain, because magic is based a lot upon calculations, and she hoped that by rewiring him, he would be able to use universal magic, because Tatsuya was born a BS (born specialized) magician. However, he still was unable to use general magic properly, and because he was a lost cause for anything except being a Guardian (in the Yotsuba's eyes) she inputted the remainder of his emotional part of his brain with affection for Miyuki so that he would protect Miyuki as her Guardian no matter what. I theorize that his mother did so partly because she wanted Miyuki to inherit the position of Family Head no matter what, but partly also because she hoped that Miyuki could give Tatsuya the love she herself could not give him. According to Volume 8, Miyuki perceived that Miya regretted not being capable of loving her son. It's not that she does not desire to, but she was plainly unable to. And so, Tatsuya's only true emotion that is instinctual is his love for Miyuki, because that was the only part left untouched by his mother, the rest of his amygdala was turned into the hippocampus. |
Aug 11, 2014 2:13 PM
#78
jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: Seiryuu2 said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: jakkubus said: SetsunaFromSeiei said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: fear80 said: darkreaperix said: He lost his strong emotions and not all his emotion,i.e urges such as love,lust,greed,anger. It was also an unfortunate accident and all that can be left is brotherly love to Miyuki,because Miyuki will live longer than their mother,which why she was chosen and I think they can only put one person more,and if your the mother with such ability to reprogram someone would you chose your son to protect/be loyal to your clan or to his sister,which is also a heir as head candidate.Choosing Miyuki,Miya got 2 birds with one stone,also increasing Miyuki's chance to be the next clan head? lol why were they so sure that Miyuki would support them? Read volume 8,hint [spoiler] Miyuki wasn't really could be called a Tatsuya supporter until that incident (see first few minutes of ep 1 and first OP animation) and was doing all her best to be chosen as next clan head.She was also close to her mother. I read volume 8, what I'm saying is why did they depend on a maybe. They wanted to keep Tatsuya under their tabs, he could be considered the clans secret weapon (I wonder what their goal was- taking over the world o.O ), if he can get angry for Miyuki he can get angry at Miyuki too and turn on them. Didn't the clan think that. Tatsuya powers just got absurdly strong recently he was not a threat in the past but now he may even be threat for the entire planet, if something ever happens with Miyuki again he may turn the planet into dust, mindless nonlinear retaliation is even Yotsuba trademark and proof that Tatsuya is Yotsuba after all also the main reason no one mess with them, be it world powers, japanese government or other magic clans. How he went from citybuster to planetbuster? And vampires aren't aliens? Tatsuya turns matter into energy and until now there's no limit established, he may be able to even turn the moon into pure energy and make the entire solar system go supernova in the process, he also clearly fears MB, even with atomic precision CAD he normally blows more things than he wants to also yes, so-called vampires are inter-dimensional aliens and potential origin of magic and magicians. But IIRC his limit was 20 gigatons, which can destroy Mount Everest four times, but is still far away from seriously damaging planet. No limit established, the biggest thing he targeted with MB was an flag with 1 kg and turned it into 20 megatons but the biggest thing he decomposed was an huge truck, in neither cases was stated that those were his limits, considering that MB is just another type of decomposition you can estimate that Tatsuya may be able to at least turn the same cargo truck into energy, applying Einstein formula to an medium truck with 6,140 kg it generates 1318900000 megatons(1318 teratons) Last time earth was hit by 100 teratons mass extinction happened and 1000 teratons is planet buster. My bad, it was 20 megatons, not gigatons. So it's even nowhere near Mt. Everest. But the fact, that limit of his abilities wasn't shown, doesn't mean it not exist. It is probably around his best performances of MB. Claiming that he has no limits is a bit stupid. After all MB requires complex calculations. Tatsuya has to read design of his target to decompose it and he has to do it more accurately that in case of Mist Dispersion. Also processing of his Magic Calculation Area is not unlimited. So he's probably at max mountain/citybuster. And to be planetbuster he has to be able to release 50 zettatons of energy. Only if you are talking about completely obliterating the planet, with much less the planet turns into a lifeless piece of rock. But still he hasn't shown that he is capable of life-wiping. Even though he hasn't shown it yet, I am pretty sure he is capble to do so. He was able to shot a long range bullet approximately 20 KM, and annihilate all the Enemies ships instantly, and can make 10 Kg matter to be 20 megatons O.O If he had been able to do so, he would probably just destroy whole Great Asian Alliance instead of just fleet. Not really, please think a little, using the same logic nothing would stop him from nuking Yotsuba village, there's something called proportionate counter attack and he even got reprimanded because he killed GAA strategic class magician by mistake and risked upsetting world power balance, why is that? if he blows GAA at least USNA even as Japan ally would most likely declare war against Japan and maybe every single country in the world could do the same, for much less USNA sent their own strategic class magician to get rid of Tatsuya, blowing one world power means picking fight with every single country in the world, even if they aren't allies every nation fights for survival and manage threats, blowing an entire country along with biggest human population in the world means you are ready to make the next move towards elimination of other nations or world domination and they will not allow him to do it without fight, this is also beyond war crime, its beyond impossible even for Tatsuya, unless Miyuki is dead and he is out of his mind, by doing such thing Tatsuya would risk having to deal with every single strategic class magician at same time, nearly impossible feat even for him or the entire japanese magic community. Nope, no country would do anything against someone, who with one spell can obliterate one of global powers. That's like your opinion but still, he is not allowed to do it regardless, he is not allowed to even kill strategic class magicians in order to not risk upset world balance. If he would be that powerful, Japan would not have to care about world balance...[/quote] Tatsuya actually says that his power may destroy the planet some day (Vol12), maybe by mistake - after all he gets very tense before performing MB and very rare moment he displays something close to fear, Tatsuya having world shattering power is pretty much canon. |
Aug 11, 2014 5:18 PM
#79
SetsunaFromSeiei said: Tatsuya actually says that his power may destroy the planet some day (Vol12), maybe by mistake - after all he gets very tense before performing MB and very rare moment he displays something close to fear, Tatsuya having world shattering power is pretty much canon. similar with Lelouch and Damocles. Lelouch has the power to destroy the world. Tatsuya will die like Lelouch in the end. that's so similar pattern here. |
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