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Do you think that Hachiman might end up with anyone at the end of this season? You can mention any hints from the novel.
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Instead of spoilering (I can do that too), I will just say (once again) anime covers 6 volumes of novels. There is currently 7 volumes out and author stated that it's first half, so another 6 or 7 volumes comming.

So what can you take from it?
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abdo42 said:
Do you think that Hachiman might end up with anyone at the end of this season? You can mention any hints from the novel.


You will never know. Maybe they will, or maybe they not. Spoiler ahead.


Yui also try her best to tell her feeling to 8man, but he always rejected it before she even tried to tell them. Or maybe he will hear them, if his heart suddenly changed. Or maybe Totsuka try to confess onto 8man. Who knows?

Back to the topic, I don't even have any clues about this matters. Besides, the novel are still long way to go. :)
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So their relationship hasn't been stated yet even in the novel. This implies that this show has to have another season. Thank you.
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No, it doesn't work that way. Most of LN adaptation never get another season despite having enough source material.
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I agree, I really like Oregairu and think it's an excellent series but I doubt it's get a second season. I don't think it has the buzz necessary for a second season. Still, even if they go for an original ending or something we can still read the Light Novels; I read the first chapter on Baka-Tsuki and it was really enjoyable, the anime did pretty well to capture Hachiman's pessimist outlook.
Hachikuji: Araragi-san, you don't look even the least bit apologetic. You should at least say something after touching a girl's delicate chest!
Araragi: *Clueless look* Thanks?

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Tenzen12 said:
Instead of spoilering (I can do that too), I will just say (once again) anime covers 6 volumes of novels. There is currently 7 volumes out and author stated that it's first half, so another 6 or 7 volumes comming.

So what can you take from it?


I kinda agree with is guy, in the anime it is not clear if a relationship between Hikki and Yukino is possible, in fact everything points to a friend zone. How ever in the manga, it may be a different story in which things will only be clear if the chapters reaches its finale.
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I agree, I really like Oregairu and think it's an excellent series but I doubt it's get a second season. I don't think it has the buzz necessary for a second season. Still, even if they go for an original ending or something we can still read the Light Novels; I read the first chapter on Baka-Tsuki and it was really enjoyable, the anime did pretty well to capture Hachiman's pessimist outlook.


Oregairu has been a success. It's been licensed for North American and Australian release. It's already been confirmed for some sort of television exclusive work after episode 12. There is a game for PS Vita (with a bundled OVA) and I think other OVAs. All of this extra stuff is being scripted by Wataru Watari, too, so that's pretty exciting.

The problem with a proper second season, though, is that it took him about 2 years to release 7 volumes. So even though the popularity is there, it's still going to be a long time before there is enough material to do a second season. I think all of the extra stuff that is being done is essentially being used as a bridge to keep too much time from passing without some Oregairu product while he writes the rest of the novel series.
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I agree, I really like Oregairu and think it's an excellent series but I doubt it's get a second season. I don't think it has the buzz necessary for a second season. Still, even if they go for an original ending or something we can still read the Light Novels; I read the first chapter on Baka-Tsuki and it was really enjoyable, the anime did pretty well to capture Hachiman's pessimist outlook.


Oregairu has been a success. It's been licensed for North American and Australian release. It's already been confirmed for some sort of television exclusive work after episode 12. There is a game for PS Vita (with a bundled OVA) and I think other OVAs. All of this extra stuff is being scripted by Wataru Watari, too, so that's pretty exciting.

The problem with a proper second season, though, is that it took him about 2 years to release 7 volumes. So even though the popularity is there, it's still going to be a long time before there is enough material to do a second season. I think all of the extra stuff that is being done is essentially being used as a bridge to keep too much time from passing without some Oregairu product while he writes the rest of the novel series.


That's interesting, I had no idea that it was popular. Very valid points, I certainly hope you're right; I'd love for there to be more Oregairu to come.

Who do you think the final girl will be?
Hachikuji: Araragi-san, you don't look even the least bit apologetic. You should at least say something after touching a girl's delicate chest!
Araragi: *Clueless look* Thanks?

Bakemonogatari, Episode 5.
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JacobGrey93 said:
That's interesting, I had no idea that it was popular. Very valid points, I certainly hope you're right; I'd love for there to be more Oregairu to come.

Who do you think the final girl will be?


At this point it's anyone's guess. I think Yukino would be most appropriate. I don't actually dislike the idea of Yui being the final girl. Were it not for the fairly significant age difference, even Shizuka could conceivably end up there (and who knows? She just might.) Since we're novel-inclusive here, Saki is also dropping hints that she has some sort of dynamic with Hachiman, but it remains to be seen just what that is.

If there are going to be a dozen or more light novels, then we're basically right around the halfway point. I don't think it is too likely that significant new contenders will show up, but there is a lot of room for stuff to happen that positions any one of the girls to be the one that finally cracks Hachiman's defenses.
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I think any girl (including Ebina) is possible but Yui. My money goes on Shizuka or Yukino though.
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CNagy said:
JacobGrey93 said:
That's interesting, I had no idea that it was popular. Very valid points, I certainly hope you're right; I'd love for there to be more Oregairu to come.

Who do you think the final girl will be?


At this point it's anyone's guess. I think Yukino would be most appropriate. I don't actually dislike the idea of Yui being the final girl. Were it not for the fairly significant age difference, even Shizuka could conceivably end up there (and who knows? She just might.) Since we're novel-inclusive here, Saki is also dropping hints that she has some sort of dynamic with Hachiman, but it remains to be seen just what that is.

If there are going to be a dozen or more light novels, then we're basically right around the halfway point. I don't think it is too likely that significant new contenders will show up, but there is a lot of room for stuff to happen that positions any one of the girls to be the one that finally cracks Hachiman's defenses.


Considering how little their relationship has been explored I'd say they must have plans for a second season. Otherwise she's just a pointless character to have included (not that she's a bad character, it's that she's been show to be a distinctive character but they've hardly gone anywhere with her).

I like Yukino the best as well, she and Hikigaya have good chemistry; It's clear that they understand one another on a deeper level than Yui with their pasts (regarding loneliness being so similar). I may warm up to Saki if they write her well but until then we'll just have to see.

Do you read English translations or the originals, I only ask because I can't find any translated works.
Hachikuji: Araragi-san, you don't look even the least bit apologetic. You should at least say something after touching a girl's delicate chest!
Araragi: *Clueless look* Thanks?

Bakemonogatari, Episode 5.
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I think any girl (including Ebina) is possible but Yui. My money goes on Shizuka or Yukino though.


I'd say it's definitely Yukino. At least the anime won't be going for Shizuka, since they skipped her summer holidays event.

Moreover, Hachiman is the only person who could ever truly understand Yukino and Yukino is pretty much the closest among everyone to understand Hachiman. If she's not paired up with him, who else?

Also, THAT monologue in episode 9. Hachiman fails to accept a fault in Yukino and therefore hates himself. Don't know how everyone views it but I found that speech SO damn romantic...
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Of course not in anime. This thread is nove inclusive afterall and I don't think understandin is most important here. Even if Yukino does understand him she can't accept everything he does nor provide enough insight and decessivness have possitive influence on him, which I consider be proven. That's why I see Shizuka as better option

And about episode 9. It's quite obvious their relationship is platonic at this point.

Despite all of that Yukino indeed is most likely ending girl (even thought she has Hayato as back up)
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I think Hachiman will choose Yukinon, they know and understand each other very much, but it just can be true only when Hachiman can solve Yukinon problem about her family and Hayama.
In light novel, Hikki always thinks that there is still have a distance that can't be fullfill from him and Yui in every chapter they meet or go out together ( example Dog-Cat scene hint in episode 9)
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JacobGrey93 said:


That's interesting, I had no idea that it was popular. Very valid points, I certainly hope you're right; I'd love for there to be more Oregairu to come.

Who do you think the final girl will be?


For me, I'm thinking (and I'm sure) that Yukino will be the one to be the final girl, if only Wataru made a same route like most romantic story do (which is the first person MC met, she/he is the one to be their partner). I remember the first time 8man met up with Yukinon. His monologue were like this:



But I can't denied that maybe 8man can end up with other people like Yui or Shizuka or even Saki, if Wataru wanted it to be like that. But whatever happen, I hope that everybody has someone to rely on. I really do so.
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psy8hillme said:
JacobGrey93 said:


That's interesting, I had no idea that it was popular. Very valid points, I certainly hope you're right; I'd love for there to be more Oregairu to come.

Who do you think the final girl will be?


For me, I'm thinking (and I'm sure) that Yukino will be the one to be the final girl, if only Wataru made a same route like most romantic story do (which is the first person MC met, she/he is the one to be their partner). I remember the first time 8man met up with Yukinon. His monologue were like this:



But I can't denied that maybe 8man can end up with other people like Yui or Shizuka or even Saki, if Wataru wanted it to be like that. But whatever happen, I hope that everybody has someone to rely on. I really do so.


Yeah, I agree about Yukino, that's the ending I'd expect. Not that predictability is a bad thing; Toradora! was a fantastic anime and everyone knew how that was going to end from the very start.
Hachikuji: Araragi-san, you don't look even the least bit apologetic. You should at least say something after touching a girl's delicate chest!
Araragi: *Clueless look* Thanks?

Bakemonogatari, Episode 5.
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JacobGrey93 said:


Who do you think the final girl will be?


Yukino

I hate to say this, but I haven't encountered a single damn anime (or manga) which MC ended up with anyone else besides the main heroine

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Who do you think the final girl will be?


Yukino

I hate to say this, but I haven't encountered a single damn anime (or manga) which MC ended up with anyone else besides the main heroine



Yeah, it does seem like the only outcome with potential to exist. That said I do like their pairing.
Hachikuji: Araragi-san, you don't look even the least bit apologetic. You should at least say something after touching a girl's delicate chest!
Araragi: *Clueless look* Thanks?

Bakemonogatari, Episode 5.
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I would vote for Yukinon :)
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Wow, reading the comments it looks like I'm the only Yui fan. I hope they come up with an original ending for the anime and Yui's the one standing after the dust settles.
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Yui never had chance, but I also hope for original ending. And while Yukino is most obvious choice I think Shizuka also has small chance (if nothing else bigger than Yui).

Anyway what about Ebina idea, where Hikki would end with Hayato in the end?
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Yui never had chance, but I also hope for original ending. And while Yukino is most obvious choice I think Shizuka also has small chance (if nothing else bigger than Yui).

Anyway what about Ebina idea, where Hikki would end with Hayato in the end?


Hey hey, are you serious? The two of them made it clear: Hachiman and Hayato couldn't even become friends under any circumstances.
And funny fantasies aside, even Saika has no chance.

On a side note, I'm also hoping for an original ending
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Yui never had chance


What makes you say that? I think she serves as a perfect foil to Hachiman. Underneath his cynical exterior that he uses to protect himself from getting too attached and thus hurt by others, I think he's mighty similar to Yui. Besides, you know what they say about opposites attracting.
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What makes you say that? I think she serves as a perfect foil to Hachiman. Underneath his cynical exterior that he uses to protect himself from getting too attached and thus hurt by others, I think he's mighty similar to Yui. Besides, you know what they say about opposites attracting.

Point is they aren't opposite. If Hikki were negatively charged magnet, Yui wouldn't be positive but nonmagnetic. Yes they don't have any common point, but they doesn't clash either. actualy they almost doesn't interact in first place nor have any effect on each other.

Hey hey, are you serious? The two of them made it clear: Hachiman and Hayato couldn't even become friends under any circumstances.
And funny fantasies aside, even Saika has no chance.


Yes, they can't ever become friends, but we don't talk about friendship here, do we? Hikki is super submissive type and in moment Hayato would attack him it would be moment when Hikki enter to entirely new dimension of life.

And I am obviously deadly serious, how you can even doubt about my sincerity?




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I think the upcoming PSP Vita game will probably have alternate routes for Yui, Shizuka, Saika etc.

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/05/my-teen-romantic-comedy-snafu-vita-game-slated-for-september/
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What makes you say that? I think she serves as a perfect foil to Hachiman. Underneath his cynical exterior that he uses to protect himself from getting too attached and thus hurt by others, I think he's mighty similar to Yui. Besides, you know what they say about opposites attracting.


1. 'they' say a lot of stuff. Doesn't mean it's all true. Also, statistically, married couples who represent opposites often divorce after a short while.
2. The only thing about Yui that attracts Hachiman are her boobs. Apart from that, he really gives his best to keep her at a distance. He is rejecting her entire existence (except boobs) with all his might.

Tenzen12 said:
Yes, they can't ever become friends, but we don't talk about friendship here, do we? Hikki is super submissive type and in moment Hayato would attack him it would be moment when Hikki enter to entirely new dimension of life.


So the question is: Would Hayato ever make use of such a possibility and actually assault him? ^^
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Judging by my writers instinct. No. That won't happen. The most we can expect is a near kiss scene or something. As for character development points we are reaching the “turning points” the characters start to question their life style and how everything is going. This season will probably end by Hachiman questioning if he wants to be a loaner and putting him into trouble weather he likes Yukino and should try to get close to her or if he should keep his distance and not repeat the mistakes of his past. Mix in some Yui getting jelly and the group almost falling apart and stuff like that maybe a little dispute between her and Yukino and that should be the main driving force of S2 along with the club activity’s and resocialization but stuff like that is hard to predicted. I also expect at least one “love issues” episode that will make the crew think how they should deal with there feelings maybe set at Valentines day or Christmas .
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Point is they aren't opposite. If Hikki were negatively charged magnet, Yui wouldn't be positive but nonmagnetic. Yes they don't have any common point, but they doesn't clash either. actualy they almost doesn't interact in first place nor have any effect on each other.

Well it looks like you've read the light novels so you might have more insight into their relationship dynamic in that medium. In the anime, he is putting up this front to help him cope with is loneliness. Maybe they aren't quite opposites but rather the emotionally open and the emotionally closed variations of the same person. All I know is that she cares about him and he is afraid to admit his true feelings, whatever they may be.

By the way, if you know spoilers about what happens in the light novels, you can let me know.
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Point is they aren't opposite. If Hikki were negatively charged magnet, Yui wouldn't be positive but nonmagnetic. Yes they don't have any common point, but they doesn't clash either. actualy they almost doesn't interact in first place nor have any effect on each other.

Well it looks like you've read the light novels so you might have more insight into their relationship dynamic in that medium. In the anime, he is putting up this front to help him cope with is loneliness. Maybe they aren't quite opposites but rather the emotionally open and the emotionally closed variations of the same person. All I know is that she cares about him and he is afraid to admit his true feelings, whatever they may be.

By the way, if you know spoilers about what happens in the light novels, you can let me know.


http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=116320&page=15

Try this site. If you scroll down you can see the LN summaries for yourself.
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NickyCharisma said:

Well it looks like you've read the light novels so you might have more insight into their relationship dynamic in that medium. In the anime, he is putting up this front to help him cope with is loneliness. Maybe they aren't quite opposites but rather the emotionally open and the emotionally closed variations of the same person. All I know is that she cares about him and he is afraid to admit his true feelings, whatever they may be.

By the way, if you know spoilers about what happens in the light novels, you can let me know.


Well if you insist to know some spoiler, I would happy to tell you. Spoilers ahead. :D



That's just my thought actually. Maybe you can share your thought as well. :)
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I think it that spoiler above might be a bit difficult to get without context but if you don't wanna read whole that summary mentioned above for that, basicaly main point is:

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I think it that spoiler above might be a bit difficult to get without context but if you don't wanna read whole that summary mentioned above for that, basicaly main point is:



Thank you for summarizing it. Because I'm no good with summarizing things. :P
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I don't remember that scene, where was it?
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Volume 7 (anime is on v6 now)
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Oh well, now I understand. Maybe I was failed to read between the lines.


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Wait, that's Yui's line.
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moyang said:
Oh well, now I understand. Maybe I was failed to read between the lines.

psy8hillme said:
Wait, that's Yui's line.


I don't really know about that one. First, I'm really copying this from Volume 7 summary from Pastebin, wrote by Von Himmel. So I didn't change everything from it. If you read the Japanese, and you can understand it, maybe I believe ya. Remember, I just took it from other sources. Maybe you can provide me the link for the source that says otherwise.
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This is the original text:


The underlined line says 'Breathing was heard after the word.' Of course it's Yui's, so it was Yui who said the previous line. 'Please think/care about my feelings.'
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I don't find it obvious from what you said. It make sense eitherway as well
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Hmm, does it? Ok, second line says 'She released loosely caught my cloth from her hand, but caught it again firmly this time.' (not-so-good translation, lack of my English skills :p)

It is more natural to think Yui hesitated at first, but ends up saying what she had in mind.
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Hmm, does it? Ok, second line says 'She released loosely caught my cloth from her hand, but caught it again firmly this time.' (not-so-good translation, lack of my English skills :p)

It is more natural to think Yui hesitated at first, but ends up saying what she had in mind.


Fair enough. I'll ask the writer for the summary. After awhile, it does makes sense. Thank you again for pointing it up. I'll reassess back the summary. :)
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What is the basis for Shizuka X Hachiman? Something in the novels? As the anime doesn't really hint for something like that.

By the way, don't you think that it's quite possible that the novels will end with no pairing at all? \
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Yeah anime underplayed lot of flags, just try compare this scene from camp for kids with anime.



And then there is legendary Ramen date that didn't get into anime at all :(, which double as most awesome chapter ever (if you ask me that is). Anyway with that date is Sensei route prettu much confirmed as valid possibility.

They also quite often chats about their favourite mangas and even regulary text each other (means sensei sends long messages and Hikki answer with laconic manner)
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I sure hope he does end up with Yukino.
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Hachiman wants to kill Yukinon so badly lol
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Hachiman wants to kill Yukinon so badly lol


Episode two, is it ?
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Yukino = Becoming more like soul mate than actual couple
Haruno= Thinks Hachiman has yukino's best pair, think Yui as interference
Yui = Too obvious that she likes her
Saki = Getting blushed whenever she sees Hachiman
Komachi = unlike 'certain imouto anime', trying to make events that can give Hachiman a girlfriend
Shizuka = Pretty much Hachiman's ideal match

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Hachiman = Ignores all thses flags, thinking it is all some kind of scheming. "youth comedy cannot possibly happen!"
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Possibly, the one that got the most cut in the anime is definitely relationship with Hiratsuka Sensei - which was just too fun to read. She is indeed best pair for Hachiman - who obviously wants to become house husband, lol.
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If you read LN volume 7, you'll see another progress between Yukinon and Hachiman. It's very contagious, and a few kawaii moment.
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isn't volume 7 ultimately more like regress though?
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isn't volume 7 ultimately more like regress though?
True.
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