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Nov 9, 2012 12:15 AM
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fake their deaths ?

it seems kind of weird to me how they just ran away after killing so many guys lol :)

please tell me how the story would of been different C:
CelastiasNov 9, 2012 12:21 AM
Nov 9, 2012 6:22 AM
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That's what I like about the Phantom Troupe though, fooling everyone but our main core group. You would never see other groups in other shonen series do this who always have to flex their muscles and prove they are on top. The PT are super strong but they are insanely smart with how they operate
Nov 9, 2012 6:35 AM
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Yea obviously they want the mafia (or anyone else who want their heads) to stop chasing them by thinking they're dead, and now only very few know they're alive, Kurapika and the other 3 namely.
Nov 11, 2012 6:25 PM
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This is one thing that I find unrealistic about Hunter x Hunter. You'd think that, given the powers of nen, there would be a prevalence of hunters in powerful positions, and then it would go without saying that most people in fields that hunters could affect (like the Mafia) would be sorely aware of such an existence. How would you even make it to a major mob boss position without understanding the power of nen, or at least having capable bodyguards? You'd think that there should've been hundreds, if not thousands of hunters around York Shin City, in the biggest Mafia event of the year, and at least 50% of these career professionals should be far more capable than Gon's freshmen league.
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Nov 11, 2012 6:58 PM
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^I'm pretty sure there are only a few hundred Hunters total (and even if there's more, it's less than a thousand) and a majority of them are probably not genei ryoudan level. (the shadow beasts were also already killed :P)

Even if instead of just hunters, you look at all nen-users, I would think a good portion wouldn't have great combat abilities.
Nov 12, 2012 5:21 AM
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Mafia would've hired more assassins. Probably the zoldycks again.

Phantom troupe members don't exist officially, and they'd like to keep not existing if possible.
A deleted scene (in both versions sadly) shows some mafia genius hacker who tries to match the fakes' DNA and finds nothing. Even in international databases that keep records of those whose existence has been erased by certain governments don't have anything about them.

And so they deduce that they're from that city, and since they have good (or beneficial) relationships with them, they stopped right there.
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Nov 13, 2012 12:17 AM
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The faking of their deaths was pointless, tbh. Didn't the Mafia learn afterwards that they were from Meteor City? Alive or not they won't have the spine to catch them.
Nov 13, 2012 6:31 AM
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Celastias said:
fake their deaths ?

it seems kind of weird to me how they just ran away after killing so many guys lol :) please tell me how the story would of been different C:


They faked their deaths so the auction would continue. By faking their deaths, they were able to sell the mafia bosses fake items and keep the real items. By doing so, they potentially doubled or tripled their profits. Obviously, material gain isn't their motivation. But it seems to me that profits are at least important to them. They're thieves after all. Otherwise, they would not have bothered sucking up all those dead mafia members in the initial attack. And although the mafia continuing to chase them wasn't a real danger. It certainly was annoying. They got the search called off so now they can relax a little.

katsucats said:
This is one thing that I find unrealistic about Hunter x Hunter. You'd think that, given the powers of nen, there would be a prevalence of hunters in powerful positions, and then it would go without saying that most people in fields that hunters could affect (like the Mafia) would be sorely aware of such an existence. How would you even make it to a major mob boss position without understanding the power of nen, or at least having capable bodyguards? You'd think that there should've been hundreds, if not thousands of hunters around York Shin City, in the biggest Mafia event of the year, and at least 50% of these career professionals should be far more capable than Gon's freshmen league.


They had the Shadow Beasts. Those guys were not wimps. You talk as if they are Phantom Troupe level nen fighters all over the place. The members of the troupe are monsters. There should be no real way of knowing they are that strong. Obviously the mafia has knowledge and utilizes nen practitioners. Look at Neon's bodyguards, and look how easily they were killed, and I already mentioned the Shadow Beasts. All those guards would have been enough to stop most people. The Phantom Troupe are an exception.
Nov 13, 2012 6:36 AM
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LanceC said:
The faking of their deaths was pointless, tbh. Didn't the Mafia learn afterwards that they were from Meteor City? Alive or not they won't have the spine to catch them.


One thing to consider is that they don't know the Ten Dons are dead. As far as they know, an order from the very top has come down to stop the search. Why would they continue the search? There are obviously benefits for the Phantom Troupe to get the search called off. So are you saying faking their deaths is pointless in terms of the storytelling?
Nov 13, 2012 5:02 PM

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n10sity said:
LanceC said:
The faking of their deaths was pointless, tbh. Didn't the Mafia learn afterwards that they were from Meteor City? Alive or not they won't have the spine to catch them.


One thing to consider is that they don't know the Ten Dons are dead. As far as they know, an order from the very top has come down to stop the search. Why would they continue the search? There are obviously benefits for the Phantom Troupe to get the search called off. So are you saying faking their deaths is pointless in terms of the storytelling?


Kinda. It doesn't matter if it's someone from the top or a foot soldier, anyone from Mafia wouldn't want to severe ties with Meteor City so the Troupe honestly didn't have to fake their deaths, they would have gotten away regardless. They could just call off the search period, no one in the Mafia would question it. The only explanation is that Kuroro doesn't know the Mafia would actually stop the search because of their origin so he had to resort to faking their deaths, which I highly doubt.
Nov 13, 2012 8:31 PM

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^but they wouldn't be able to find out they are from the Meteor City without their bodies.
Nov 14, 2012 1:05 AM

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katsucats said:
This is one thing that I find unrealistic about Hunter x Hunter. You'd think that, given the powers of nen, there would be a prevalence of hunters in powerful positions, and then it would go without saying that most people in fields that hunters could affect (like the Mafia) would be sorely aware of such an existence. How would you even make it to a major mob boss position without understanding the power of nen, or at least having capable bodyguards? You'd think that there should've been hundreds, if not thousands of hunters around York Shin City, in the biggest Mafia event of the year, and at least 50% of these career professionals should be far more capable than Gon's freshmen league.


They had the Shadow Beasts. Those guys were not wimps. You talk as if they are Phantom Troupe level nen fighters all over the place. The members of the troupe are monsters. There should be no real way of knowing they are that strong. Obviously the mafia has knowledge and utilizes nen practitioners. Look at Neon's bodyguards, and look how easily they were killed, and I already mentioned the Shadow Beasts. All those guards would have been enough to stop most people. The Phantom Troupe are an exception.
The Shadow Beasts were the only people who had understanding of nen that was hired by the Mafia. They weren't even stationed at the auction, they were called in for backup. None of the various mob bosses that actually attended the auction knew about nen, none of them had nen-user bodyguards except for Nostrade, which is just convenient because it happened to be Kurapika's employer. Except for the Nostrade Family, Gon's group, the Shadow Beasts, the Phantom Troupe, and the 5-6 bounty hunters called in at the end, York Shin City, which hosts the biggest Mafia event of the year, was overall devoid of nen-users; there was under 25 nen-users in a city of tens, or hundreds of thousands in its population. None of the people in the underground boxing ring when the Mafia announced bounties for the Phantom Troupe were aware of nen. None of the people that Gon arm-wrestled, besides the Phantom Troupe member, knew what nen was; they were all confused when Gon beat them. Had they knew what nen was, they would have easily deduced that there would be a catch to the game. None of the merchants in York Shin City had nen appraisers working for them, despite, as it is shown, how easy it is to use nen to dupe merchants, or find diamonds in the rough.
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