Are there Anime shows created by Western Studios?

DesolateOne said:
What i mean by this is the art design/style pretty much.

I guess itd be better to ask if there are any mangas created by western mangakas since most if not all anime shows are manga adaptations.

Panty & Stocking is a japanese anime with a western style (some compare it to power puff girls). I'm looking for the opposite.

Leonard93 said:
the first paragraph of titanXL explain why i hate P&S (read: dislike) so much.

Leonard93 said:
the first paragraph of titanXL explain why i hate P&S (read: dislike) so much.

Jrittmayer said:


Same.

TitanXL said:


Panty & Stocking is 'Westernesque' because it's deliberately making fun of American animation. GAINAX got the idea for it when they saw shows like Drawn Together and wondered 'Why do Americans find this gross stuff funny?' and 'Hah, bet we could do this' and so they did. Everything about it is deliberately making fun and parodying American cartoons; the awful Flash-esque art style and choppy animation, the 30 second theme song that just consists of the title of the show being repeated, title cards before each segment, the terrible gross-out humor mimicking Ren & Stimpy and Drawn Together,and so forth. It does a great job making fun of American animation, but it's still an anime..

EveryOtherColour said:

Don't talk about stuff you know nothing about; you might make yourself look like an idiot.

EveryOtherColour said:


Sounds like someone doesn't know what they are talking about!

For one thing, the animation in Panty and Stocking is of a very high standard; much like any other Gainax show. It also experimented with a range of styles; just look at the episode directed by Osamu Kobayashi (5B) and the episode featuring Chuck in a range of different styles.

It would be silly to suggest that it is not parodying American animation as the style is reminiscent of several American cartoons; however your suggestion that they are holding it to ridicule rather than lovingly poking fun lacks evidence. If you look back to previous title FLCL, they adopted a South Park style in one of the later episodes - and that was a case of experimentation, not making fun of the art style South Park uses.

In addition, Gainax have had a cartoon like vibe about them since Top wo Nerae!; particularly with titles like 'Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi' and 'Mahoromatic' but even the likes of 'Neon Genesis Evangelion' have traces of it.

Then there's the fact that the director of Panty and Stocking, Hiroyuki Imaishi, previously directed Dead Leaves, a title with an art style resembling an American comic books that was blatantly not a parody, and was simply a show with an experimental art style

It sounds like you are just taking your own prejudices against Western animation and assuming that Gainax follow a similar line. I would hope that the staff at Gainax are mature enough to welcome different styles as new perspectives, rather than snobbishly look down on them because they think "Anime style is perfection".

I have some advice for you, good sir.

Don't talk about stuff you know nothing about; you might make yourself look like an idiot.

TitanXL said:
No, they pretty much admitted it was Drawn Together that inspired them and gave them the idea. And by 'awful animation' I'm specifically referring to the shots where the characters looked like cardboard cutouts being shifted around slightly. Obviously there's scenes like the transformations and certain scenes like the barf monster episode aren't include in that statement, but the art looked that way most of the time specifically to ape the American style in that regard. Whether a parody is 'ridiculing' or not I suppose is up to the individual. A parody to me is making fun of/poking fun at something, which they were definitely doing. No, not out of pure rage-inducing hatred or anything, but a parody is still making fun of something, and they obviously had a lot of fun playing up the tropes of American animation.

Leonard93 said:
so basically your looking for animes which arent made in japan?

Akito_Kinomoto said:

But then that wouldn't be an anime.

Akito_Kinomoto said:

<red>There are better ways to inform someone if you're so inclined.</red>

EveryOtherColour said:
There are indeed nicer ways to provide people with information, but if you're going to speak authoratively on something you don't actually know that much about, it's only natural that you will be called out if you are wrong.

The impression I got from Titan's post is that he harbors a strong dislike for Western animation, to the point that he is prejudiced against it.

He then goes on to talk about Gainax 'making fun of American animation' which to me would seem inconsistent with their history, as well as the work of the Director who seems to openly embrace Western styles.

Finally, what makes me question Titan's authority on the subject is that he seems to be confusing 'Art Style' with 'Animation'; Panty and Stocking had very high quality Animation throughout.

Art styles are open to interpretation; while one person may like PAS art style, another could hate it and they would both be right, as it is subjective.

It seems to me that what Titan really dislikes is the art style used, not the animation.

I'm not someone who takes pleasure from making other people feel stupid, just someone who takes pleasure from calling bull.

mellors said:
The closest that comes to mind is Studio 4c works, who while based in Japan have had American directors and are involved in production of American-origin franchises, in collab with Cartoon Network and Warner Bros animation.

But otherwise, not really.

mellors said:
The closest that comes to mind is Studio 4c works, who while based in Japan have had American directors and are involved in production of American-origin franchises, in collab with Cartoon Network and Warner Bros animation.