I’d definitely watch another Higurashi season. But where would they even go with it now? Gou/Sotsu proved they can still nail the creeping paranoia atmosphere, but the actual mystery payoff collapsed because they had to bend a character just to justify the plot.
So unless the plan is to twist someone again, what’s left? Another fake loop?
At this point the only direction that wouldn’t feel cheap is just straight sol Hinamizawa. No pretending there’s a mystery again. I'd watch that, even though I despise sol.
Sotsu isn't that bad. It just doesn't feel like a Higurashi story to be honest. I would much rather prefer a remake of the original which doesn't change too many things instead of another sequel. On the other hand, Umineko definitely deserves another chance at a better adaptation.
Sotsu isn't that bad. It just doesn't feel like a Higurashi story to be honest. I would much rather prefer a remake of the original which doesn't change too many things instead of another sequel. On the other hand, Umineko definitely deserves another chance at a better adaptation.
@LoopyDoopy Season 2 of One Punch Man wasn't that bad. Just didn't live up to the hype expectations of the season prior.
RenaShionFTW said: @LoopyDoopy Season 2 of One Punch Man wasn't that bad. Just didn't live up to the hype expectations of the season prior.
I won't comment on OPM (cause I haven't watched it yet). For Higurashi, I just meant that if they reboot the series, it would feel a bit more refreshing. New viewers won't watch the original at this point cause it's pretty old now. Once the reboot is done, then they can try out fresh ideas and stuff from the visual novels that are yet to be adapted (if there are any, I'm not sure).
RenaShionFTW said: @LoopyDoopy Season 2 of One Punch Man wasn't that bad. Just didn't live up to the hype expectations of the season prior.
I won't comment on OPM (cause I haven't watched it yet). For Higurashi, I just meant that if they reboot the series, it would feel a bit more refreshing. New viewers won't watch the original at this point cause it's pretty old now. Once the reboot is done, then they can try out fresh ideas and stuff from the visual novels that are yet to be adapted (if there are any, I'm not sure).
Honestly, perhaps studio’s are reluctant working on something that has alot of graphical content. I feel like higurashi is one of those franchises that work the best as a visual novel, and if there has to be a anime adaptation, it has to be handled pretty well.
higurashi mystery itself is solved at kai. There is no need for a sequel. Although somehow they made one.After Gou and Sotsu I think we ll never get something from higurashi again but we'll most likely get sth similar from the author, or some of the characters will appear in another series
Roy2Epic said: I’d definitely watch another Higurashi season. But where would they even go with it now? Gou/Sotsu proved they can still nail the creeping paranoia atmosphere, but the actual mystery payoff collapsed because they had to bend a character just to justify the plot.
So unless the plan is to twist someone again, what’s left? Another fake loop?
At this point the only direction that wouldn’t feel cheap is just straight sol Hinamizawa. No pretending there’s a mystery again. I'd watch that, even though I despise sol.
im with ya here. lile what would they do? an alternate timeline and create entirely different events? maybe a spinoff/sequel with different characters?
Buny0058 said: Honestly, perhaps studio’s are reluctant working on something that has alot of graphical content. I feel like higurashi is one of those franchises that work the best as a visual novel, and if there has to be a anime adaptation, it has to be handled pretty well.
IMO…..these studios don’t want to animate anything any more they want to use ugly cgi and slideshows as a scapegoat instead of actually putting in real work and making a masterpiece animation like they should be doing.. it’s bad enough the story’s are getting wrecked by these companies let’s add bad animation to the list what’s the point of watching after that… it’s sad to see honestly… imagine a world where 2005 anime is easier and better to watch than 2025-2026 anime even tho 2005 anime feels outdated and corny to watch.. that’s the path were walking at the moment can we skip cgi since it looks so horrid still and go back to the hand drawn stuff with full movement without ruining the whole plot of my favorite manga? is that too much to ask? That’s the problem with today’s anime IMO please don’t attack me this is just something I’ve been noticing it’s a lack of caring about the masterpiece that’s being created…. Higurashi is too creative for these times they would ruin it worse than they already have.. the whole series would be a collage of slideshows of gore with added cgi of a corpse to try to add depth and to keep up with times even tho it’s not needed at all and just ruins the whole esthetic… so yeah I don’t think that amazingly crazy story with wild visuals can be saved unless it’s actually cared about the way it needs to be…
Roy2Epic said: I’d definitely watch another Higurashi season. But where would they even go with it now? Gou/Sotsu proved they can still nail the creeping paranoia atmosphere, but the actual mystery payoff collapsed because they had to bend a character just to justify the plot.
So unless the plan is to twist someone again, what’s left? Another fake loop?
At this point the only direction that wouldn’t feel cheap is just straight sol Hinamizawa. No pretending there’s a mystery again. I'd watch that, even though I despise sol.
im with ya here. lile what would they do? an alternate timeline and create entirely different events? maybe a spinoff/sequel with different characters?
@MadMonk762 Perhaps another sequel with one custom male character rivaling Keiichi on the outlook and society of Hinamizawa. I know... because I personally made a Higurashi OC just like this. :)
Buny0058 said: Honestly, perhaps studio’s are reluctant working on something that has alot of graphical content. I feel like higurashi is one of those franchises that work the best as a visual novel, and if there has to be a anime adaptation, it has to be handled pretty well.
IMO…..these studios don’t want to animate anything any more they want to use ugly cgi and slideshows as a scapegoat instead of actually putting in real work and making a masterpiece animation like they should be doing.. it’s bad enough the story’s are getting wrecked by these companies let’s add bad animation to the list what’s the point of watching after that… it’s sad to see honestly… imagine a world where 2005 anime is easier and better to watch than 2025-2026 anime even tho 2005 anime feels outdated and corny to watch.. that’s the path were walking at the moment can we skip cgi since it looks so horrid still and go back to the hand drawn stuff with full movement without ruining the whole plot of my favorite manga? is that too much to ask? That’s the problem with today’s anime IMO please don’t attack me this is just something I’ve been noticing it’s a lack of caring about the masterpiece that’s being created…. Higurashi is too creative for these times they would ruin it worse than they already have.. the whole series would be a collage of slideshows of gore with added cgi of a corpse to try to add depth and to keep up with times even tho it’s not needed at all and just ruins the whole esthetic… so yeah I don’t think that amazingly crazy story with wild visuals can be saved unless it’s actually cared about the way it needs to be…
@Johmiascle That's a lot of IPs for you, unfortunately... The bright side is that I heard the manga version of Gou/Sotsu was much better.
I know that Gou and Sotsu are past beyond June 1983. But, if they can do a more better writing beyond the loop year I'm eager to watch it. Rika wasn't suffering enough imo🤣 jk jk
ZanSyakz said: I know that Gou and Sotsu are past beyond June 1983. But, if they can do a more better writing beyond the loop year I'm eager to watch it. Rika wasn't suffering enough imo🤣 jk jk
I love Gou and Sotsu btw. Rika and Satoko attachment undeniably a true friendship. In the end they are being hit hard with reality. Everything didn't remain eternally. Both of them need space to grow up and understand eachother more.
ZanSyakz said: I know that Gou and Sotsu are past beyond June 1983. But, if they can do a more better writing beyond the loop year I'm eager to watch it. Rika wasn't suffering enough imo🤣 jk jk
I love Gou and Sotsu btw. Rika and Satoko attachment undeniably a true friendship. In the end they are being hit hard with reality. Everything didn't remain eternally. Both of them need space to grow up and understand eachother more.
@ZanSyakz A chair whooping will help Satoko with that!
Higurashi never needed a sequel. The original story ended perfectly.
However.. the concept they went with regarding a grown up Satoko and Rika and their codependant relationship being the focus of the conflict was a legitimate good idea for a continuation.
They should have kept the story focused around that part of their lives. Doing the remake-sequel rug pull was just a dumb idea. We never needed to go through June 1983 again.
Would I want another sequel? Sure. Maybe something about the next generation and seeing how they deal with the problems?
Who knows. I wonder what having the advantage of knowing about Hinamizawa Syndrome would do in terms of creating a new story.
But I would much prefer a Umineko proper remake.
I'd want Ciconia to be finished first before we start any talks about wanting an adaptation 😂
Higurashi never needed a sequel. The original story ended perfectly.
However.. the concept they went with regarding a grown up Satoko and Rika and their codependant relationship being the focus of the conflict was a legitimate good idea for a continuation.
They should have kept the story focused around that part of their lives. Doing the remake-sequel rug pull was just a dumb idea. We never needed to go through June 1983 again.
Would I want another sequel? Sure. Maybe something about the next generation and seeing how they deal with the problems?
Who knows. I wonder what having the advantage of knowing about Hinamizawa Syndrome would do in terms of creating a new story.
But I would much prefer a Umineko proper remake.
I'd want Ciconia to be finished first before we start any talks about wanting an adaptation 😂
@filimaua13 I recently wondered about a version with my OC in the village but without Keiichi. Hayato is the Keiichi. Guaranteed he'd be smarter and more self-aware. The manga version for Gou/Sotsu is much better, I heard.
Initially when news of it was first announced (and largely in part due to the deliberate misleading marketing campaign which could be considered straight-up disinformation), I expected it to be a remake, like many people did, and so I didn't plan to watch any of it at all. I won't watch remakes at all of content I've already seen and found at least decent in the form I saw it in. Even those of top favorite works. Maybe especially of top favorite works as I have even less reason and incentive to see it redone.
But when I found out that what was starting to air in autumn of 2020 with Higurashi Gou was a sequel (only learned this after the second episode aired and what they did with the
Hanyuu
reveal leaked into discussions online, including on MAL and its sub-forum here), then I committed to watching it as opposite of what I said of really never having any desire or intention to watch remakes of top favorite series, it's almost the complete opposite with new content (be it sequel, prequel, midquel, spinoff, side story fluff like the OVA episodes disconnected from the main plot of the series, etc.) and I feel obligated in a way to see it.
But that said, I did not then originally and never at any point did I expect it likely to be very good. Most sequels are a substantial step down from the original stories. That's something which holds true whether we're speaking of anime or Disney or live cinema or anything else. So while I can find many things to criticize and write negatively about in Gou & Sotsu all day long, and already pointed out years ago what I found most unfulfilling, stupid, and unworkable in them, at the same time I wasn't overly disappointed to the point that some other fans were in the sense of full-on rage and despair, or there even being the remotest possibility of it tainting or detracting in any way from the original seasons and story for me, as that's not how I treat and view sequels and, again, I was already automatically pessimistic and extremely conservative in expectations going in, so it was less of a fall from grace.
And what I said about sequels, by the way, goes even doubly or moreso when it has been quite a number of years from when the first installment was released, it's clear that the idea for them was tacked on long after the fact rather than some organic outgrowth of the original story they didn't have time and budget to do and do properly and justice to at the time, and if said original story from the way everything unfolds and how it ends was obviously completely comprehensively concluded. Because then the latecoming sequel just feels like an extra unnecessary and aggressive cash grab.
So I suppose that my view would be that it doesn't really need a sequel and the reason for that is not because Gou & Sotsu already came out and that that attempt was arguably a big failure in storytelling and imagination, but that the fundamental issue is that it never needed a sequel in the first place. Because it is such a layered and detailed story and odyssey and because it did end so thoroughly on such a conclusive note. Any sequel seems almost bound to just come off from the start like it's inherently missing the point through its existence.
I don't count the OVAs though as proper sequels (except the middle three episodes of Rei comprising the Saikoroshi-hen arc, which is like an ideal short but dense and powerful epilogue) - the rest of Rei from 2009, Kira from 2011, and Outbreak/Kaku from 2013 are just standalone side stories, fun Slice of Life sexual fanservice and comedic parody episodes, etc. Those I view all as experimental "What ifs?" as if they're all taking place in minimally altered parallel universes, which neatly folds into the overarching premise of the story anyway. I wouldn't mind having more of those.
But that doesn't need to be a full season or two season or more entire serialized story. And if it ever was I'd pray it wasn't constructed on something so flimsy and shallow ever again as a main character driving all events out of violent resentment toward studying and homework. Even just writing that as a sentence makes it sound more like one of the parody OVA episodes.
Initially when news of it was first announced (and largely in part due to the deliberate misleading marketing campaign which could be considered straight-up disinformation), I expected it to be a remake, like many people did, and so I didn't plan to watch any of it at all. I won't watch remakes at all of content I've already seen and found at least decent in the form I saw it in. Even those of top favorite works. Maybe especially of top favorite works as I have even less reason and incentive to see it redone.
But when I found out that what was starting to air in autumn of 2020 with Higurashi Gou was a sequel (only learned this after the second episode aired and what they did with the
Hanyuu
reveal leaked into discussions online, including on MAL and its sub-forum here), then I committed to watching it as opposite of what I said of really never having any desire or intention to watch remakes of top favorite series, it's almost the complete opposite with new content (be it sequel, prequel, midquel, spinoff, side story fluff like the OVA episodes disconnected from the main plot of the series, etc.) and I feel obligated in a way to see it.
But that said, I did not then originally and never at any point did I expect it likely to be very good. Most sequels are a substantial step down from the original stories. That's something which holds true whether we're speaking of anime or Disney or live cinema or anything else. So while I can find many things to criticize and write negatively about in Gou & Sotsu all day long, and already pointed out years ago what I found most unfulfilling, stupid, and unworkable in them, at the same time I wasn't overly disappointed to the point that some other fans were in the sense of full-on rage and despair, or there even being the remotest possibility of it tainting or detracting in any way from the original seasons and story for me, as that's not how I treat and view sequels and, again, I was already automatically pessimistic and extremely conservative in expectations going in, so it was less of a fall from grace.
And what I said about sequels, by the way, goes even doubly or moreso when it has been quite a number of years from when the first installment was released, it's clear that the idea for them was tacked on long after the fact rather than some organic outgrowth of the original story they didn't have time and budget to do and do properly and justice to at the time, and if said original story from the way everything unfolds and how it ends was obviously completely comprehensively concluded. Because then the latecoming sequel just feels like an extra unnecessary and aggressive cash grab.
So I suppose that my view would be that it doesn't really need a sequel and the reason for that is not because Gou & Sotsu already came out and that that attempt was arguably a big failure in storytelling and imagination, but that the fundamental issue is that it never needed a sequel in the first place. Because it is such a layered and detailed story and odyssey and because it did end so thoroughly on such a conclusive note. Any sequel seems almost bound to just come off from the start like it's inherently missing the point through its existence.
I don't count the OVAs though as proper sequels (except the middle three episodes of Rei comprising the Saikoroshi-hen arc, which is like an ideal short but dense and powerful epilogue) - the rest of Rei from 2009, Kira from 2011, and Outbreak/Kaku from 2013 are just standalone side stories, fun Slice of Life sexual fanservice and comedic parody episodes, etc. Those I view all as experimental "What ifs?" as if they're all taking place in minimally altered parallel universes, which neatly folds into the overarching premise of the story anyway. I wouldn't mind having more of those.
But that doesn't need to be a full season or two season or more entire serialized story. And if it ever was I'd pray it wasn't constructed on something so flimsy and shallow ever again as a main character driving all events out of violent resentment toward studying and homework. Even just writing that as a sentence makes it sound more like one of the parody OVA episodes.
@WatchTillTandava LOL at the last sentence. Well fucking said, brother/sister! Are you a writer by any means?
RenaShionFTW said: LOL at the last sentence. Well fucking said, brother/sister! Are you a writer by any means?
Thanks. And no, not at all, professionally speaking. Just as a hobbyist for myself for my own pleasure and online. That's why I'll, not always, but often, write longer posts on the forum as I genuinely enjoy it as mental exercise for my own sake despite who is or isn't reading or does or doesn't respond.
RenaShionFTW said: LOL at the last sentence. Well fucking said, brother/sister! Are you a writer by any means?
Thanks. And no, not at all, professionally speaking. Just as a hobbyist for myself for my own pleasure and online. That's why I'll, not always, but often, write longer posts on the forum as I genuinely enjoy it as mental exercise for my own sake despite who is or isn't reading or does or doesn't respond.
@WatchTillTandava I love long posts like yours. Especially if it's well written.
RenaShionFTW said: @Bigganalls If you have time, you should read the manga version of Gou/Sotsu. Heard it was a lot better than the anime.
I actually started reading it! Onidamashi was exactly the same so I lost interest, but yeah it appears that subsequent arcs are different, so I’m gonna pick it back up. Thanks for the rec!
RenaShionFTW said: @Bigganalls If you have time, you should read the manga version of Gou/Sotsu. Heard it was a lot better than the anime.
I actually started reading it! Onidamashi was exactly the same so I lost interest, but yeah it appears that subsequent arcs are different, so I’m gonna pick it back up. Thanks for the rec!