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| Either Safu is related to the forest people, or maybe it has something to do with how she left No.6 for awhile. That one redhead said that everything about Safu had changed except her clinical view of sex. So maybe her heart is more open now or something like that. And the bees are probably related to that Elulias(whatever) person since Nezumi sees them in his dream and in the novel I think it says something about the government officials not knowing about the bees(but I may be wrong here). And something that I've wondered for awhile now is if No.6 is so strict about freedom of speech and loyalty to the city and all that, why would they let Safu go to a city that's more open minded? Isn't it to be expected that being exposed to such a different environment would breed doubts and ultimately disloyalty to No.6? Maybe she was set up or something, since she's close to Sion and all. Though I don't think the government needs a legitimate reason to arrest you in No.6. |
| Guys. Watch movie called "Zeitgeist: moving forward" and just then watch No.6 .... <__> made me understand waaay much mooore .... |
| I've wondered about them letting her out too. Thing is they can't just lock everybody in or the other cities will take too much notice. I'm sure they just very strictly control what happens within the city. Safu was saying in the latest novel chapter I've read (visiting Sion's mom to find out what happened) that the city is very "closed." The theory of her being set up makes a lot of sense actually. Especially now that we've learned her grandma was probably put down like a dog in the pound. :/ You know what else? I think Safu is probably such a good match for Elyurias (I'm assuming she's being possessed) because she left No. 6 for a while. I suspect No. 6's existence suppresses Elyurias power somehow. I've also suspected for a while that Nezumi's godfather and Sion probably only had a chance to survive the parasite toxin because they left No. 6 as well. I agree the bees belong to Elyurias and she may just hate No. 6 as much as Nezumi does. That said I don't see anything good coming of Safu being possessed by Elyurias. Especially considering she's clearly been jealous of Nezumi for a while, and she told Karan that she's "selfish" and what Sion wants doesn't matter. :/ |
| Safu only got to go to the other city because No.6 gave her permission for her studies. They have complete control over who leaves and who enters. In the novel, it says that west block exists because it's the place where people waiting to enter No.6 gathered. And Elyurias probably hates No.6 because they destroyed her forest. No.6 is like the enemy of nature. Hence the bees. It's a very natural way to die. The irony is hilarious. whitetear said: I've also suspected for a while that Nezumi's godfather and Sion probably only had a chance to survive the parasite toxin because they left No. 6 as well. This makes alot of sense. whitetear said: That said I don't see anything good coming of Safu being possessed by Elyurias. Especially considering she's clearly been jealous of Nezumi for a while, and she told Karan that she's "selfish" and what Sion wants doesn't matter. :/ lol, you're right, that's actually really scary. Obsession has the power to make people do terrible things, especially if they're hyped up on goddess powers. And if Safu actually did harm Nezumi out of jealousy I wonder what Sion would do, since he said that the thought of losing Nezumi scared him more than anything. And Sion's not entirely sane himself, it's alot more obvious in the novels. |
SilverDemon said: Really? I thought Sion seemed more sane in the novels than in the anime (except the part where he attacks Rikiga which seems far more brutal in the book). lol...lol, you're right, that's actually really scary. Obsession has the power to make people do terrible things, especially if they're hyped up on goddess powers. And if Safu actually did harm Nezumi out of jealousy I wonder what Sion would do, since he said that the thought of losing Nezumi scared him more than anything. And Sion's not entirely sane himself, it's alot more obvious in the novels. But I've been wondering what Nezumi was really talking about when he said "I didn't know anything about you" as they were approaching the Correctional Facility. I have trouble believing he's just talking about how he tried to keep Sion at a distance for so long. There's got to be more to that. So again, can I ask how you've gotten ahead in the novels? Did you order them from somewhere in Japanese? Or are they available in English now too?j *edit* I forgot in the novels there's the voices in his head... "Break it. Destroy it. Destroy what? Everything." but didn't that stop after he left No. 6? I thought he just was feeling trapped while he lived there. |
whitetearSep 4, 2011 11:22 AM
whitetear said: Really? I thought Sion seemed more sane in the novels than in the anime (except the part where he attacks Rikiga which seems far more brutal in the book). lol... There's the voices in his head, but you're right, that's just him feeling trapped. But in the scene when Sion "grabbed" Nezumi's neck, his eyes are described as being emotionless, a sharp contrast to his "love confession". It was kinda eerie. And then the way he smiles when he doesn't realize it, like when he was giving the stitches and the next ep will have another scene with the creepy smiling. I don't wanna spoil it, and I'm not entirely sure if it'll be included in it's entirety, cuz it's kinda disturbing... whitetear said: But I've been wondering what Nezumi was really talking about when he said "I didn't know anything about you" as they were approaching the Correctional Facility. I have trouble believing he's just talking about how he tried to keep Sion at a distance for so long. There's got to be more to that. It has to do with the neck grabbing scene. It was briefly touched upon in the anime, when Nezumi says "Sion, just who are you?", but they left most of that scene out, which annoys me cuz it's my favorite in the novel so far. It's in chapter four, just before the attack on the town. You can see the whole chapter here: http://hiriajuu.livejournal.com/1050.html <-- This is where I read up to vol four, though it's mostly summaries. |
| Ahhh... great, thanks! :D I don't mind reading actual translations of the parts of the book that have been adapted to the anime eps I've seen already-- I'm just avoiding reading the summaries. I'll be sure to check that out. But then that makes Sion's eyes in the scene during the "manhunt" make much more sense. He went blank and emotionless under Nezumi's superfibre cape, right in the middle of the slaughter. I also thought of the neck-grabbing scene from ep 5 when I was trying to figure out what Nezumi meant about not knowing him. That scene was really weird to me because considering what Sion was saying and the look on his face (in the anime), I didn't get why Nez should be so scared. I'm looking forward to reading that now! The preview has Nez asking Sion why he's smiling, and shows Sion doing so as he runs up some stairs. He also seems to hear Safu's voice calling him or something. I haven't read anything related to this part yet so I have no idea, but I get the impression it's rather important, so maybe they'll cover it "as is." |
| I don't do TL/DR (or at least very rarely). I read it all and laughed out loud several times. And やんでれ... I didn't know there was such a word but it's right there in my Japanese dictionary. "Usually female," it says, too. lol... perfect for Sion the uke. I was rereading some of the book and noticed Sion thinking to himself (after Nez told him to stop trying to find out more about him and put Sion's hand on his heart) that he'd go crazy if he didn't have someone in his heart. So that may be part of what's made him so obsessed over Nez. That's funny that you say both Nez and Safu are artistic. I see Nez as being far more so than she is. She went so far as to read a poem (that not-so-subtly refers to her fate), but she's still stuck speaking in such clinical terms as though love and sex were the same thing. Safu's picked up Picasso, but Meanwhile Nezumi is a great fan of the classics, witty and creative with his words, a singer, and an actor. I look forward to reading about what she thought of the museum because I can't figure out if she's impressed by learning about history, or if she's just digging all the neat-looking stuff around her. o_O I've mentioned this a couple of other places and if someone wants I can repaste the details here if someone wants, but I'll just briefly say: Elyurias' song (stressing wind and shelter/rest/stopping, depending) and Safu's poem (stressing "soul" and "light," and really focused on "watching") seem to be related. And they relate to the plot as well. Just like when Inukashi said Nez' singing carries (the dogs') souls away like petals scattering on the wind and the song's first line is "soul carried away by the wind." It's obvious what the last line of Safu's poem (being "guided" by a "light") is about by now... |
| I don't think Safu is necessarily artistic, more that she appreciates the beauty in art now that she left No.6. Beauty moves the soul kinda thing I guess. And is it just me, or does anyone else find the ending credits kinda ominous? Cuz it shows Nezumi and Shion hanging out in the ruins of the park and then later Nezumi is gone and the park is covered in flowers, like a grave... Since the opening credits are mostly significant, I think maybe we can assume the ending is too... |
| YES! I keep forgetting to bring that up. The end credits have been freaking me out for weeks. For me, it's that Sion seems to be alone at the end. And it's another season (spring cherry blossoms). But I try to encourage myself with the idea that he doesn't look sad (just serious) and just runs back the way he came with a normal expression on. I've said it before and I'll say it again: if either Sion or Nezumi dies and the other has to live on without him, it will just crush me. T_T But since this is only volume 4 material, at least one of them has to live (assuming the ending isn't changed for the anime). *edit* One other thing I'm concerned about is that they may have been setting up a trap for Nezumi (he has some kind of special importance to the researchers apparently). |
| Yeah, I meant in the book. I have a feeling they haven't dropped the subplot completely-- they're just keeping it a secret and they're going to spring it on us later on like they did with Nezumi's godfather and what the "plan" for getting into No. 6 was. Actually I just got to the part with Mr. Coffee Mug Lab Coat and Fennec again and apparently I had it mixed up... |
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