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"Audrey Burn" from Gundam Unicorn (Episode 2 Spoilers)

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Nov 1, 2010 6:12 AM
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So in the Gundam Unicorn page, Audrey's real name, Mineva Zabi, is put right there in front for everyone to see - spoiling all of the fun. This is because she appeared in earlier Gundam series. I think there should be two separate entries so the fun of Unicorn is not spoiled. It's not fair to other people.
Nov 3, 2010 10:37 AM
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I can't really see the need for that. From her appearance and position amongst the Neo Zeon forces, it should be quite obvious to anyone who she really is. The fake name comes off more as intended to fool the protagonist and not the viewers.

Changing her profile name would also conflict with the previous series, and adding a new entry would also be silly. It's one thing for characters that are less obviously the same person, sporting a entirely different appearance and demeanour like, say, Vincent and Ergo Proxy. But when we also have Char as a single entry despite his new name in Zeta, there shouldn't be any need to consider this one a spoiler either.
Nov 3, 2010 1:14 PM
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Going with what Baman said I also think that Mister Bushido and Graham Aker should be one entry.
Nov 5, 2010 6:27 AM
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Yeah, you're probably right about Bushido, so if nobody voices any objections, I'll merge the two in a couple of days.
Nov 5, 2010 8:49 AM
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And about Nemuru Kushinada & Kannon Hakuorou? They are the same person. It's the same case as Mister Bushido&Graham Aker.
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Nov 6, 2010 6:40 AM
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Those should remain separate. It's a plot point where you figure out as you watch - it shouldn't be spoiled, no matter how obvious you may think it is. And sometimes it's a good mystery that would be spoiled.

I know the character descriptions don't need spoiler tags, even though they all should, but the name should be kept under guise.
Nov 7, 2010 12:07 PM
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DragoZERO said:
Those should remain separate. It's a plot point where you figure out as you watch - it shouldn't be spoiled, no matter how obvious you may think it is. And sometimes it's a good mystery that would be spoiled.

I know the character descriptions don't need spoiler tags, even though they all should, but the name should be kept under guise.
But we try to keep the database as simple as possible, and combine aliases and multiple personalities when it is appropriate. That's also why we have the line for aliases and nicknames.
I can understand the need for two profiles in cases like I mentioned, but in this case, it's only a very minor plot point, if any at all, and it's made pretty clear from the moment she introduce herself that it's a alias.

Only people that haven't seen any previous Gundam series might not understand who she really is, but then they also won't take any harm from seeing her real name prematurely, as they don't know who Mineva is in the first place.

And in the end, it's a question of DB consistency. When we've decided to combine profiles that are obviously aliases into a single profile, then so be it, even if some people get a minor spoiler like this.
Having two profiles, one for each name but with the same picture would also be pretty pointless.
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And about Nemuru Kushinada & Kannon Hakuorou? They are the same person. It's the same case as Mister Bushido&Graham Aker.
Haven't seen it, but at least those two look somewhat different. And since one of them is some sort of deity (And thus probably a secret identity?), I'd lean more towards keeping them separate, at least if the series makes a point of turning into a mystery. But Someone who's seen it would probably be a better judge.
Nov 8, 2010 8:43 AM
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Merged Bushido.

The Ookami Kakushi characters stay separate for now, since it seems to be a slightly more convoluted case than a simple mask and a false identity.
Nov 8, 2010 5:43 PM
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Baman said:
DragoZERO said:
Those should remain separate. It's a plot point where you figure out as you watch - it shouldn't be spoiled, no matter how obvious you may think it is. And sometimes it's a good mystery that would be spoiled.

I know the character descriptions don't need spoiler tags, even though they all should, but the name should be kept under guise.
But we try to keep the database as simple as possible, and combine aliases and multiple personalities when it is appropriate. That's also why we have the line for aliases and nicknames.
I can understand the need for two profiles in cases like I mentioned, but in this case, it's only a very minor plot point, if any at all, and it's made pretty clear from the moment she introduce herself that it's a alias.

Only people that haven't seen any previous Gundam series might not understand who she really is, but then they also won't take any harm from seeing her real name prematurely, as they don't know who Mineva is in the first place.

And in the end, it's a question of DB consistency. When we've decided to combine profiles that are obviously aliases into a single profile, then so be it, even if some people get a minor spoiler like this.
Having two profiles, one for each name but with the same picture would also be pretty pointless.
I understand the reasoning but it still ruins it. Whether it's an alias or not is irrelevant. And you can't say her identity is obvious, not everyone will pick up on it right away for a variety of reasons.The same can be said about it being a minor plot point because I think it's a big one, who she is part of the story since Banagher sees her as Audrey and not Mineva.

And the picture shouldn't be the same. Mineva should be the kid from Zeta/ZZ and Audrey from Unicorn.

I don't think keeping the database trim is a good enough reason to spoil this.

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