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Enjoying things you rated lower more than things you rated higher? (my 8s, 9s, and 10s don't necessarily mean the 10s are the best)

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Jun 18, 6:18 AM
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When I rate something a 10, it means I genuinely believe it perfectly succeeded at what it aimed to do. (from a critical standpoint)

But that doesn't always mean I love the characters from it as much as something I rated 8 or 9.


If I put it another way, the characters in something I rated 10 are "perfect,"
meaning they are perfect vessels for the narrative, but they're not inhibited by things of real humans.

Therefore, characters in something I rate 8/10 or 9/10
sometimes feel more lovable and relatable because they have more struggles.
Jun 18, 7:34 AM
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There’s a definite difference between “best” & “favorite” for me. Case in point, I consider Apothecary Diaries season 2 to be the “best” anime of the year so far, but I actually look forward more to new eps of Food For The Soul & Cinderella Gray.


Jun 18, 7:40 AM
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There’s a definite difference between “best” & “favorite” for me. Case in point, I consider Apothecary Diaries season 2 to be the “best” anime of the year so far, but I actually look forward more to new eps of Food For The Soul & Cinderella Gray.
@Ohayotaku

I use the "10" rating in an impersonal manner. I give something a 10 if I think it genuinely is the best at what it's trying to do.


But that doesn't mean I actually think it's the best at having good relatable characters, etc.

That's why I like things that I rated 8 or 9 more than things I rated 10 a lot of the time.

You have to read what I wrote in the opening post.

If I put it another way, the characters in something I rated 10 are "perfect,"
meaning they are perfect vessels for the narrative, but they're not inhibited by things of real humans.

Therefore, characters in something I rate 8/10 or 9/10
sometimes feel more lovable and relatable because they have more struggles.
Jun 18, 7:49 AM
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All my scores = how much I enjoyed the anime. What's the point of lying to yourself anyway?
Jun 18, 8:01 AM
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All my scores = how much I enjoyed the anime. What's the point of lying to yourself anyway?
@Stanis150 You can enjoy something that's not a masterpiece more than something that is a masterpiece.

That's why you can give a 10 to something that's not peak enjoyment. Because you feel that it is a masterpiece at what it does. (In an impersonal manner.)

Even though you personally like things that are a bit more chaotic.
Jun 18, 8:02 AM
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my 9s and 10s are interchangeable anything i rank a 9 or 10 i believe to just be a masterpiece of a show my 10s are just my personal favorites they could change places with anything i ranked 9 tbh.
Jun 18, 10:16 AM
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Jun 18, 10:24 AM
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This is more or less why i rate off enjoyment instead of critically nowadays. Though, I understand exactly what ur saying.


 "Hard work is worthless for those that don’t believe in themselves" - Naruto Uzumaki

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Jun 18, 3:20 PM
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Episode 11 of Apocalypse Hotel is absolute perfection. I haven't seen anything that comes close to this in a long, long time. This show is a hidden gem this Season.
Jun 18, 3:57 PM

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I get it. How good something is, doesn't always necessarily equal how much you enjoy it. @Ohayotaku used The Apothecary Diaries as a good example. It does everything well so by almost every possible measure, it's probably the best anime of this season. But, that doesn't stop me looking forward to Me And The Alien Mumu or Catch Me At The Ballpark more.

Fast food can be more enjoyable than top-end restaurants, bad films more than critically-acclaimed ones etc.
Jun 18, 5:11 PM
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Yes definitely! For instance Cardcaptor Sakura for me is a solid 10, one of the few I've ever given out. However I find myself watching Strawberry marshmallow which I gave only a 9 to, way more. I think it's due to the fact that it's a shorter series with more digestible slice of Life elements.
Jun 18, 9:34 PM

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Largely no, whatever I rare high, I enjoyed the most. There are a few guilty pleasure shows, I rated lower, just because I couldn't endorse the writing but still had a fun time. Still most stuff is reflective of my enjoyment.
Jun 18, 10:02 PM

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Yes, it is true that trying to look at it from a more detached and technical "objective" perspective (which is still functionally subjective, but just slightly less so) as opposed to just purely on the basis of my own enjoyment or personal affinity and resonance usually adds or subtracts a point or two from the final equation. And this results in practice in me personally liking and enjoying more and personally preferring certain series I rate below others.

Because sometimes the music is poor, uninspired, and limited in amount and variety/range or just completely unnoticeable. The voice acting is just so-so and totally unremarkable. The direction is very bland and uninspired cheap stills and the same panning shots over and over. Maybe the writing itself (most important factor and consideration for me) gets rushed in parts or toward the end because the production schedule was reportedly a mess or the episode count is simply inadequate and incongruent with the needs of the story. But it's all based on a premise you find fascinating so it makes the obvious major problems not matter as much to you personally?

How am I going to rate that always or substantially higher than the ones you recognize as having creative brilliant direction, a lively score, beautiful art and animation (least important factor for me and a lot less so for me than it is for others, but it's still noticeable and counts for something), and passionate memorable seiyuu performances, but the story is just something you're outright plain not interested in or only marginally so compared to what else is out there?

It just feels deliberately dishonest to too frequently or severely rate works down because you/I may not be as interested in what they're actually about even though they're clearly high quality in every or nearly every metric.

But since I only have seven 10/10s for series out of over 300 and one for one film out of dozens, I think that I can say for my 10s at least still, they wouldn't be there without some personal deep significance to me.
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Jun 18, 10:12 PM

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Yeak, I kind of get that. Personal enjoyment and emotional impact are the 2 biggest factors I use when rating things, but certainly you could say I enjoyed some 9s better than some 10s, 8s overs 9s and so on. Although that doesn't really happen that much with my 10s because basically every single one of them is a big personal favorite of mine (maybe my "lowest" 10 would be The Quintessential Quintuplets S2, and there are definitely a couple of 9s, like Horimiya or TTGL that I probably enjoyed more and had a bigger impact on me than TQQ even though I rated it higher).
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Jun 18, 10:38 PM

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No, that generally doesn't happen with me. I rate an anime wholly on the basis of my enjoyment and not in discrete parts (music, characters, story, animation, etc.). While these factors might subconsciously come to me as a reflex, but my score, once done, is absolute, and unless I rewatch, it's unlikely I'll change it. But I can see how a show I rated 9 might have better characters than some of the ones I've rated 10, but that's the characters, not the whole show.

Also, replying to another one of your comments:

That's why you can give a 10 to something that's not peak enjoyment. Because you feel that it is a masterpiece at what it does. (In an impersonal manner.)

Well, "masterpiece" is subjective. I don't rate something on the basis of their production value or cultural value. Neon Genesis Evangelion is considered a masterpiece by a good amount of people, but it's a mere 6/10 for me. I won't call a show "masterpiece" unless I enjoy it to the level of 10/10, so yeah, it's purely based on my enjoyment and hence, appreciation for the show.
Jun 18, 10:54 PM

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It happens a lot with me tbh. There are some things that I think are overhated, like Shield Hero Season 2 and 3, Tower of God Season 2 and 3, Soul Eater NOT, and others. There are also anime that I simply enjoyed more than others like Slow Start or most CGDCT anime tbh. Always makes me a little sad when people are harsh towards CGDCT anime, they're the most harmless anime out there :(
Jun 18, 10:56 PM

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This is more or less why i rate off enjoyment instead of critically nowadays. Though, I understand exactly what ur saying.
@JayDaAnimeLord I 100% agree, it's just good for the soul to not base your opinions around critics, and decide for yourself if you enjoy it. I don't get how some people say they really enjoyed an anime, but then give it a subpar score because of the MAL score or something like that, just seems stupid
Jun 19, 1:45 AM

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@JayDaAnimeLord I 100% agree, it's just good for the soul to not base your opinions around critics, and decide for yourself if you enjoy it. I don't get how some people say they really enjoyed an anime, but then give it a subpar score because of the MAL score or something like that, just seems stupid
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I don't get how some people say they really enjoyed an anime, but then give it a subpar score because of the MAL score or something like that, just seems stupid
I personally find that my enjoyment of an anime or character varies to a greater degree depending on my mood/stage in life/perspective, while my evaluation of how well something is written is more stable. Rating by a more "objective" (aka not reliant on an emotional response) therefore is more meaningful to me personally.

I'm not too interested in rating based on how much I enjoyed an anime, because that's almost 100% subjective and there's nothing you can really analyze or discuss about with others. There's really not much value to it for me, not to mention it's more likely to fluctuate if I rewatch it in a few years.


Anyway, example of shows I enjoyed more than the rating(s) I gave:
  • Demon Slayer
  • Haikyuu!
  • Love Live!

Shows that I didn't enjoy as much despite high ratings:
  • Perfect Blue
  • Neon Genesis Evangelion
  • Odd Taxi
Jun 19, 10:36 AM

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This happens to me, too.

You can absolutely recognize an anime as something great without necessarily liking it that much. I believe that people who can rate purely from their own emotions and experience are a minority. And kind of misguided, honestly. If that comes naturally to you, then I'm happy for you.

I thought Odd Taxi was incredible and gave it a 10, but it's not like I'm constantly thinking about it or itching to re-watch it.

I don't feel particularly enthusiastic about Frieren, but there are parts of it that I like and parts that are undeniably great. It feels like it's less than the sum of its parts for me, but I still gave it a 9.

On the flip side, I do enjoy a lot of "dumb" shows that manage to be funny, creative and memorable, and I like talking about them. A recent example being Acro Trip, a magical-girl parody/comedy/slice-of-life.
Jun 19, 12:13 PM

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I'm the type who rates based on enjoyment, so not really? Might have a few exceptions though. My 10/10s are shows that to me are the best thing ever, my 9/10s are that but a bit less, and my 8/10s are just shows I thought were... really good (who'd've guessed?).

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