Alya Sometimes Hides Her Feelings in Russian
| I got back into Durarara after I saw Roshidere last season. I really, really enjoyed Roshidere! And upon completing it, I realized that while I saw the first season of Durarara, I didn’t see the others, so would be an excellent excuse to see the rest of Durarara. And the main reason I got back into it is, of course, the Russian that’s spoken in it. And I know that a lot of people are down on the Russian in Roshidere, and I even saw some Russians, (in a thread about it I created) say as much as well. Though there were some other Russians that were saying that because of the fact it wasn’t designed for them, but rather the Japanese, they don’t mind it as much. So that brings me to the question that is the title of this thread. Which series has better Russian, Durarara or Roshidere? I personally believe that it is Durarara, though I have not completed Durarara yet. And also as a side question, which series depicts Russian culture better? |
Arnab1322 said: Is Durarara!! worth watching ? Personally, first season is good, the rest really annoyed me in how they really changed the main characters, just for plot, which was not that good. |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.  |
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the depiction of russian culture in roshidere is shallow or almost nonexistent . Durarara does a better job but not by much . The depitcion is better but still not that deep .
| I mean, I know that neither anime goes into Russian culture deeply at all. That’s why it was really referred to as a side question, just something to consider on the side, considering in both animes, it was really a side feature. And how about the Russian language itself? Like how well were the characters’ Russian? |
Cosplay_JoeNov 10, 2024 3:59 PM
| @Clixc Haven't watched Durarara!! so let's hear what you have to say. |
| “𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍 |
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Cosplay_Joe said:
I got back into Durarara after I saw Roshidere last season. I really, really enjoyed Roshidere! And upon completing it, I realized that while I saw the first season of Durarara, I didn’t see the others, so would be an excellent excuse to see the rest of Durarara. And the main reason I got back into it is, of course, the Russian that’s spoken in it. And I know that a lot of people are down on the Russian in Roshidere, and I even saw some Russians, (in a thread about it I created) say as much as well. Though there were some other Russians that were saying that because of the fact it wasn’t designed for them, but rather the Japanese, they don’t mind it as much.
So that brings me to the question that is the title of this thread. Which series has better Russian, Durarara or Roshidere? I personally believe that it is Durarara, though I have not completed Durarara yet.
And also as a side question, which series depicts Russian culture better?
I got back into Durarara after I saw Roshidere last season. I really, really enjoyed Roshidere! And upon completing it, I realized that while I saw the first season of Durarara, I didn’t see the others, so would be an excellent excuse to see the rest of Durarara. And the main reason I got back into it is, of course, the Russian that’s spoken in it. And I know that a lot of people are down on the Russian in Roshidere, and I even saw some Russians, (in a thread about it I created) say as much as well. Though there were some other Russians that were saying that because of the fact it wasn’t designed for them, but rather the Japanese, they don’t mind it as much.
So that brings me to the question that is the title of this thread. Which series has better Russian, Durarara or Roshidere? I personally believe that it is Durarara, though I have not completed Durarara yet.
And also as a side question, which series depicts Russian culture better?
i dont think durarara and roshidere is comparable. roshidere is a goofy gimmick romance. durarara is a well thought out story with many deep characters
| @Ctes It's actually more than just a "goofy gimmick romance" but you're entitled to your thoughts. |
| “𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍 |
Reply to Clixc
@aurora_yuuki I haven't watched Durarara!! either-
| @Clixc Well, with that anime count, I thought you already had. Still a rookie, eh? |
| “𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍 |
| Not a native Russian. Don't remember much in Durarara, pretty sure it does not go in depth into Russian culture. I like Simon though~ For Roshidere, it dees mention about Russian cuisine a few times, not a native Russian, so I cannot verify if they are accurate~ I have seen several romance titles with a Russian heroine. Only one of them goes in depth into Russian culture but that romance title is well ... horrible. |
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Not a native Russian.
Don't remember much in Durarara, pretty sure it does not go in depth into Russian culture. I like Simon though~
For Roshidere, it dees mention about Russian cuisine a few times, not a native Russian, so I cannot verify if they are accurate~
I have seen several romance titles with a Russian heroine. Only one of them goes in depth into Russian culture but that romance title is well ... horrible.
Don't remember much in Durarara, pretty sure it does not go in depth into Russian culture. I like Simon though~
For Roshidere, it dees mention about Russian cuisine a few times, not a native Russian, so I cannot verify if they are accurate~
I have seen several romance titles with a Russian heroine. Only one of them goes in depth into Russian culture but that romance title is well ... horrible.
| You'd be the last person to be the @NewestPersonHere. |
| “𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍 |
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You'd be the last person to be the @NewestPersonHere.
| @aurora_yuuki Because I rarely use MAL, I mainly use Discord to discuss LN/WN with other readers. I don't really use MAL to discuss with other LN/WN readers because most readers here are Kadokawa elitists, readers who thinks that Kadakawa has the best titles and ignore all other non-Kadokawa titles. :/ MAL is also like my last source for LN news, I use lightnovel.jp for LN news. Recently read my fourth Russian heroine romance title (Russian Girl Sitting Next To Me Is A Kisser), pretty sure it depicts Russian culture inaccurately, it is a horrible experience to read that romance title due to lack of character development. Are Roshidere and Snow White the only Russian heroine romance titles worth reading? Why did I put COTE Y2 on hold to read a poorly written romance title..... >_> |
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@aurora_yuuki
Because I rarely use MAL, I mainly use Discord to discuss LN/WN with other readers.
I don't really use MAL to discuss with other LN/WN readers because most readers here are Kadokawa elitists, readers who thinks that Kadakawa has the best titles and ignore all other non-Kadokawa titles. :/
MAL is also like my last source for LN news, I use lightnovel.jp for LN news.
Recently read my fourth Russian heroine romance title (Russian Girl Sitting Next To Me Is A Kisser), pretty sure it depicts Russian culture inaccurately, it is a horrible experience to read that romance title due to lack of character development.
Are Roshidere and Snow White the only Russian heroine romance titles worth reading?
Why did I put COTE Y2 on hold to read a poorly written romance title..... >_>
Because I rarely use MAL, I mainly use Discord to discuss LN/WN with other readers.
I don't really use MAL to discuss with other LN/WN readers because most readers here are Kadokawa elitists, readers who thinks that Kadakawa has the best titles and ignore all other non-Kadokawa titles. :/
MAL is also like my last source for LN news, I use lightnovel.jp for LN news.
Recently read my fourth Russian heroine romance title (Russian Girl Sitting Next To Me Is A Kisser), pretty sure it depicts Russian culture inaccurately, it is a horrible experience to read that romance title due to lack of character development.
Are Roshidere and Snow White the only Russian heroine romance titles worth reading?
Why did I put COTE Y2 on hold to read a poorly written romance title..... >_>
| @NewestPersonHere NewestPersonHere said: Are Roshidere and Snow White the only Russian heroine romance titles worth reading? Are they? NewestPersonHere said: Why did I put COTE Y2 on hold to read a poorly written romance title..... >_> Why did you? |
| “𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍 |
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@NewestPersonHere
Are they?
Why did you?
NewestPersonHere said:
Are Roshidere and Snow White the only Russian heroine romance titles worth reading?
Are Roshidere and Snow White the only Russian heroine romance titles worth reading?
Are they?
NewestPersonHere said:
Why did I put COTE Y2 on hold to read a poorly written romance title..... >_>
Why did I put COTE Y2 on hold to read a poorly written romance title..... >_>
Why did you?
aurora_yuuki said: Are they? No idea. There might be more Russian heroine romance titles out there. Russian heroines are rare as compared to British or Scandinavian heroines. As far as I remember, Roshidere and Snow White are the only Russian heroine romance titles worth reading~ aurora_yuuki said: Why did you? I was expecting the Russian heroine to be interesting but it turns out to be nonsensical with no explanation to explain their relationships~ |
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aurora_yuuki said:
Are they?
Are they?
No idea. There might be more Russian heroine romance titles out there. Russian heroines are rare as compared to British or Scandinavian heroines.
As far as I remember, Roshidere and Snow White are the only Russian heroine romance titles worth reading~
aurora_yuuki said:
Why did you?
Why did you?
I was expecting the Russian heroine to be interesting but it turns out to be nonsensical with no explanation to explain their relationships~
NewestPersonHere said: Roshidere and Snow White are the only Russian heroine romance titles worth reading~ Is Snow White > Roshidere? |
| “𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍 |
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NewestPersonHere said:
Roshidere and Snow White are the only Russian heroine romance titles worth reading~
Roshidere and Snow White are the only Russian heroine romance titles worth reading~
Is Snow White > Roshidere?
| @aurora_yuuki Don't know. Despite both having Russian heroines, their approach is very different. Roshidere has more gags while Snow White has more fluff~ Alya is half Russian but Himeno is quarter Russian~ Both girls are seductress. Himeno is much more agressive than Alya, but not Luthi's level~ Male lead wise, I prefer Masachika~ In terms of cover illustration, I like Roshidere more though~   |
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@aurora_yuuki
Don't know. Despite both having Russian heroines, their approach is very different.
Roshidere has more gags while Snow White has more fluff~
Alya is half Russian but Himeno is quarter Russian~
Both girls are seductress. Himeno is much more agressive than Alya, but not Luthi's level~
Male lead wise, I prefer Masachika~
In terms of cover illustration, I like Roshidere more though~
Don't know. Despite both having Russian heroines, their approach is very different.
Roshidere has more gags while Snow White has more fluff~
Alya is half Russian but Himeno is quarter Russian~
Both girls are seductress. Himeno is much more agressive than Alya, but not Luthi's level~
Male lead wise, I prefer Masachika~
In terms of cover illustration, I like Roshidere more though~
| @NewestPersonHere So Roshidere > Snow White? |
| “𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍 |
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@NewestPersonHere So Roshidere > Snow White?
| @aurora_yuuki No idea, Show White has better pacing though~ The couple in Snow White also has better chemistry than the one in Roshidere. Very hard to compare them as their approaches to the romance are very different~ I cannot decide which title is better. :/ |
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@aurora_yuuki
No idea, Show White has better pacing though~
The couple in Snow White also has better chemistry than the one in Roshidere.
Very hard to compare them as their approaches to the romance are very different~
I cannot decide which title is better. :/
No idea, Show White has better pacing though~
The couple in Snow White also has better chemistry than the one in Roshidere.
Very hard to compare them as their approaches to the romance are very different~
I cannot decide which title is better. :/
| @NewestPersonHere So they're both 10/10? |
| “𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍 |
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@NewestPersonHere So they're both 10/10?
| @aurora_yuuki I have not decided on a rating yet, I will place the 2 titles on the same tier. As I mentioned, both of these romance titles are the only 2 Russian heroine titles I have read that are worth reading. There are 2 other Russian heroine titles have poorly written character development~ |
NewestPersonHereNov 18, 2024 5:38 AM
Bloodwing1730 said: @NewestPersonHere Whats the full title of the " snow white" series you mentioned? Cant find it. Full title: 心に傷を負った者同士で慰め合っていたら白雪姫（学校一の美少女）とバカップル認定されていた件 Link: https://dash.shueisha.co.jp/bookDetail/index/978-4-08-631572-2 |
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living in russia for my whole life and as a native russian speaker, i'd say that roshidere got the vibe of a russian schools and drinking tea with jam. it was just nice to see that, anything else didn't amaze me
counting the background of sumire uesaka though, i see roshidere as not just an ordinary romcom, but an ordinary romcom with CV deeply into the russian culture
as for durarara! the backstory of simon and the gang is something we see in crime movies from 1990-s, so i don't think that those are comparable tbh
counting the background of sumire uesaka though, i see roshidere as not just an ordinary romcom, but an ordinary romcom with CV deeply into the russian culture
as for durarara! the backstory of simon and the gang is something we see in crime movies from 1990-s, so i don't think that those are comparable tbh
| @JEROM4K Oh, a native Russian. What do you think of the characters' Russian? Were they fathomable? |
| “𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍 |
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@aurora_yuuki idk if it will even ping you coz its a few months later lol, i can answer in his behalf
that they did try to replicate a language in maner of speaking but its still kinda clunky most of the time aside from Alya(even she is clunky sometimes lol). It feels non native with a lil wrong sounds etc.
I'll say that it sounds more like East russia, maybe Tatars/Kazakhs (ot for ex. USSR partitions - georgia, azerbaycan)
But I still think that they did a good job overall.
that they did try to replicate a language in maner of speaking but its still kinda clunky most of the time aside from Alya(even she is clunky sometimes lol). It feels non native with a lil wrong sounds etc.
I'll say that it sounds more like East russia, maybe Tatars/Kazakhs (ot for ex. USSR partitions - georgia, azerbaycan)
But I still think that they did a good job overall.
| @LightIntDarkness Well it would make sense that she would sound from east Russia, b/c she and her family are from Vladivostok. So that's one aspect that they did get right! |
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