CrunchyCrobat said:darthe_ said:
sorry but how th does rezero have generic isekai tropes but overlord doesnt. overlord is just some op skeleton killing low level npcs. world building is cool tho
It's protagonist is not the hero but the villain, it's protagonist is not a neet antisocial loser but a very social salary man (which is also a thing about Tanya the evil, but talking about that would be different since we all know that one is nothing like a generic isekai to begin with), it's characters are way more unique compared to a generic isekai, especially the non nazrick members (who were made by players and what they tjoyght were cool fantasy characters), and it is complete opposite showing that no matter what the heroes do, they can never win while in re zero, just like any other isekai, if the hero tries hard enough he can win with you wouldn't believe it "the power of friendship" sooo yea, that's how overlord is a way less generic isekai that re zero, not saying re zero is bad like a generic isekai, it is still different and great and I love it, but compared to overlord, it's generic isekai tropes do show
Overlord falls into a lot of tropes in isekai lmao. The things you listed don’t make overlord unique overall and also just not true. Most Isekai protagonists can basically choose who they want to be, essentially being able to escape their reality, which is totally overlord. OP protagonist, being some kind of ruler, something that isn’t human, one sided fights. “If the hero tries hard enough they can win.” Usually for these isekai thats not really the case because they’re so overpowered. Re:Zero’s main theme is self-improvement, its not like most isekai where they can forget who they were in their original lives and escape reality. Thats what Subaru wanted (which is why he had a hero complex at the beginning of the series) but he had to face the person he is. IDK where you get the “power of friendship” thing from…maybe the whole self acceptance theme? Re:Zero is different from most isekai, unlike overlord. Don’t get me wrong I love the concept of overlord, but its not too different from most other isekai like reincarnated as a slime (shares a lot of troupes but I think slime is done better). Overlord is just watching someone go from a human, to a cold ruler who doesn’t have any humanity left in him, which is cool but its not anything special, win every fight. Thats another problem. The fights are just not good, they’re a total stomp with no build up whatsoever. A guy who becomes his game character where he can basically do as he pleases, with his subordinates, and wanna take over the world. Thats all overlord really is, it has a cool concept but if we’re comparing it to the isekai genre its nothing crazy. Re:Zero is just different. It does what other isekai don’t often do. When people think of isekai, the first thing they think of is “overpowered protagonist.” which is literally the plot of overlord. When they go into Re:Zero after knowing its an isekai, they’re expecting another story about a guy whos a regular human, goes into a new fantasy world, basically abandons who he was previously, and becoming OP, living how he chooses. If Subaru had the ability to do this, thats 100% what he would do. You know this just from watching the first episode. He can’t though, he has to accept the reality of himself which leaves room for a lot of character development…so yeah in conclusion Re:Zero is one of the most unique isekai out there and its not a debate. It does the opposite of what basically every other isekai does: escaping reality. I will admit you made a good point about some characters but it doesn’t matter anyway cuz nobody poses a threat to Ainz anyway, which is mid asf. Not saying re:zero doesn’t have tropes but “the power of friendship” is just false. Sure, it can be a bit shoneny at times but I don’t see how this makes it generic isekai compared to overlord of all things. |