When can we expect a trailer or a proper release date?

Shaghaf said:
As the titles says. I am guessing maybe announcement in October with a winter 2023 premier. Trailer in December (as was in s4p2)

Sujal234 said:

I don't think it will arrive in winter because vinland saga s2 is going to air on JAN2023 awhich is also made by mappa so they will not air their own 2 shows at same time.

Shaghaf said:
But they did air both jjk and aot simultaneously in 2021, so they can do it again.

Sujal234 said:

I don't think it will arrive in winter because vinland saga s2 is going to air on JAN2023 awhich is also made by mappa so they will not air their own 2 shows at same time.

Bandooo said:

Vinland saga is made by wit studio staff under mappa studio mainly

Sujal234 said:
yeah but there was 2 months gap between them.
jjk was aired on 3 October 2020 and AOT was aired on 5 December 2020.
2 months gap means jjk was 8-9 eps ahead of AOT.
If that's the case then,
Chainsaw man airs on OCT2023.
Vinland saga airs on JAN2023.
AOTpt3 airs on MARCH/APRIL 2023.
JJK s2 airs on August/September/October 2023.
I think mappa will adapt jjk,vinland and csm in 2 cours just like jjk s1.

(if you don't know then jjk s1 was divided in 2 cours. 1st cour was ended on ep 13 on 26 December 2020 and 2nd cour started on ep 14 on 16 January 2021.there were 3 weeks gap between cour. For example= they just air csm 1st cour on October 2022 and they will air 2nd cour like weeks later)

THIS IS WHAT I THINK WILL HAPPEN.
EXCEPT I Don't know if AOT airs before jjk s2 Or not.

adeeb91 said:

are you forgetting that mappa has other projects as well. Jigokuraku and their new alice to therese no maboroshi movie. Jigokuraku may air in 2023 as well considering we got a teaser

Sujal234 said:
yeah I know but know but not only mappa every studio always focuses on the shows that can make them earn more which means shows that are more popular.
And currently mappa jigokuraku and maboroshi movie is not as popular as jjk , aot, vinland.
So mappa will animate the other projects too no doubt, but their main importance is the show that is will give them highest engagement and all.
But problem is that mappa took too many popular shows so their schedule is becoming irrelevant because they have already seperated aot staff and also some small anime staff to.

But problem starts when vinland saga production is completed and some of them will join the jjk s2 staff .
Chainsaw is already now on it post production.
But when vinland saga s2 will release then the problem is that jjk will still be in production.
And aot will probably release in APR or MAY 2023.
Jjk was supposed to release in fall 2023 in SEP or OCT
But as per jjk due to less staff their might be issue with the quality of the anime.
So they will delay it for 2 months I think.

Because of vinland release in jan2023 the time for chainsaw man 2 months so chainsaw man will not get much engagement in jan.

The whole schedule of mappa is just became a mess because they took so many popular animes/manga to adapt.
Mappa should not have picked vinland saga .
Their whole scedule got delayed and messed.

SIXEYE said:



That's not how it works though. Jjk and CSM switched staff coz both r made under seshita's direction in their new studio(Sendai studio) completely for only jjk and CSM production so after CSM prod ends they will switch to jjk S2 which in pre-prod phase

For aot, Vinland and jigo all r in Tokyo department(which is busiest out of all) so those will share animators after one ends it's prod or co-produce

And remaining projects (mainly originals) r made in their 2nd studio(Osaka studio)

Sujal234 said:
wait they have a 2nd studio? I never heard of it.

dark_knight107 said:
I think a winter 2023 premiere is too soon and the animators said in a recent interview that they need more time to make it a passionate project and end the series in the best way possible. So, we might get a teaser trailer around December ig and the actual one after that.

Hentai_heaven said:
and you believe that crap, it's most likely going to be aired in Jan and it will be cgi fest

dark_knight107 said:

Hmm.. We will see about that.

Hentai_heaven said:
give me source of the interview or at least any other proof to believe you. Just Saying" we will see about that" isn't going to convince anybody here.

dark_knight107 said:

This one:

https://twitter.com/kasumi_kasa/status/1552450460115939328?t=kwGr02x9iRkYOHXYM7DWPQ&s=19

Hentai_heaven said:
there's nothing convincing here. You need to realise there's only 9 ch left and anime extending the ending looks bleak, they can finish everything in 6 or 7 ep. So even if they take a month or 2 break( which he said himself) they still can finish it by Jan. He himself said animating part 3 will be tough, by that it's pretty clear there will be heavy cg usage. Mappa has a lot in its hand and they're not going to spend time on a series which has already ended.

MAQS said:



Do you by chance think the quality of Part 2 is a CGI fest?

MAQS said:
One thing with part 3 that is different than both part 1 and 2 is that both those first parts we got the year and season now we only get the year, it could be becuase of lack of proper schedule with NHK or because they Intent to release it later in the year 2023, neither mean we could have a better or worst quality, it all depends when proper prodcution starts.

Ideally they should use 8 eps to adapt the rest of the manga but even if short is gonna be the most demanding 8 or so eps for the series, If they do end up making 8 eps then Jan 2023 is not that bad if considering the quality they delivered for 12 eps in part 2 in a little over a year so a litte less than a year for part 3 is not bad, is not ideal but not bad, ideally the best release date should april or july, those would cement the quality to be on par with part 2, but who knows we still need to wait for release date

Hentai_heaven said:
i heard somewhere that they're planning to end the series the same day the first ep aired, personally I want them to stop with this number bullshit and just focus on quality

MAQS said:


Part 2 surprised me, i never thought the quality for AOT animation would increase again to past S3 levels. CGI or no CGI

About the date thing Aot anime has never been a stickler for those things so I would not worry

About the extended ending I dont see how is it not possible, since outright adapting the remaining 9 chapters would be like 6 or 7 eps, if they just do 8 eps it will be enough to properly extend ch 139 and not have it feel rushed like it did in the manga ( alternate ending is not gonna happen )

And when looking back when part 1 was airing just the fact of having a part 3 was considered impossiblel, let alone part 2 being made with the quality it did, I seriously thouhgt part 1 quality was gonna be the new normal.

Hentai_heaven said:
even anime follows number thingy, teaser was released on 13th and p2 ep aired on 9th jan.
Considering aot is inspired by muv luv they can do 12eps with alternate ending(its already proven multiple timeline exists)but that's just me snorting copium.
Honestly it would be dumb for them to release in jan considering vinalnd saga is scheduled,they can release it on april, but since its mappa there's no saying.

MAQS said:




First the series started in april 7 2013 and april 7 2023 is a friday, AOT airs on Sundays, they cannot follow numbers thingy precisely becuase of the NHK schedule, and just like you said Vinland saga is coming in Jan but we dont know which air slot, if it happens to be AOT one which is 11.30 sundays then is a given part 3 will come out in July sine Vinland saga is 24 eps season 2

AOT being inspired by muv luv is a fact, doing mental gymnastic to say the anime and manga are 2 different timeline instead of just source material and adaptation is like you said heavy levels of copium, Im still impressed how many ppl still believe in alternate ending, had they intended to make a alternate ending we would have seen major story changes in part 2, and we did not.

( I still dont see the appeal of a alternate ending either way, the ending we got is good, on a surface level, the problem is it was wayyy too much rushed to the point is bad, just bad)

Hentai_heaven said:
well jjk and p1 aired at the same time so we can never be sure. Besides vinalnd can be 2 cour which is common nowadays.

The very 1st ep of anime differs from manga, in anime eren wakes up shocked but
In manga he's calm and also there's no "see you eren" in anime, this is the reason many believe eren is in different time line.
The existence of part 3 itself is copium for many. I'll be really pissed if there's no change, why make part 3 if it's the same 1:1 as manga for like 6eps. They could've just delayed p2 and ended everything in one go. mappa will face heavy heat for being greedy corporate studio and false marketing by extending " final season" for like 3 years

MAQS said:


Vinland saga is confimred for 24 ep that is why I say if they get the time slot that AOT uses then AOT will come in July, IF.

Every adaptation has changes, having minor things different does not mean is a alternate timeline, no change in the anime is major enough to warrant a ending change.

You asked why make part 3 instead of just ending it with part 2 if there is gonna just be adapting the manga. Becuase the quality would suffer, imagine part 2 being 16 ep long and adpating eveyrhting left, the quality would have been even worst than part 1 was by far, making a part 3 is the best case scenario.

2 years ago we were comlaining MAPPA was just gonna cash in with aot and end it as fast as they can, now that they are actually taking their time and up to this point deliver quality, the criticism has turn to why so many parts, Just becuase of stupid marketing..

What happened to AOT is something very rare, the usual thing for a series is just to keep going down in production quality, AOT with part 2 actually did the opposite, which is extremely rare in a long form seasonal anime, thye either start strong and then drop in quality, or start strong and keep being strong all the way to the end, but starting strong then dropping and then goin back strong again is rare.

About the false marketing yes you are 100% right, it was stupid marketing, but that does not affect the final product, I dont care how long it took or how thye did it, I just care how the quality is at the end of everything.

And about the ending, I mean I get your criticism but thats just how Isayama liked to end it, And im all for it personally since those are my kind of stories, but I do understand your point because I have been there with other stories which ended well but I particularly personally do not like the ending, example being the rebuild of Eva films.

Hentai_heaven said:
I dont think its a minor change

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Regarding part 2 adapting everything, that's why I said they should've delayed part 2 and adapt everythig in one go, like releasing it in july 2022 or even jan 2023

MAQS said:


Yes they may as well just ignored it all together it would not be the first time the anime completely ignored nice details from the manga, is all part of adapting something, some works get the Monster treatment which is like 99.9% accurate, but is really the exception, and really AOT comparing it to other adaptations is above the average in faithfullness.

Delaying seasons enough to skip a year is out of the question for the committee otherwise we might as well had part 1 in late or mid 2021 instead of late 2020 and then we go back into the issues the production had before.

The reality of anime production is money first quality second we got lucky with AOT since making more episodes is more beneficial for the committee since the anime just going by streaming alone, without touching merchandise or manga sales is very profitable, so making more episodes makes more money in this case, and also in this case the story does need it because of the state the manga was rushed.