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Mar 17, 2022 4:52 PM
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I finished the anime a bit ago and I thought the story was interesting however there were some things I didn't get:

And the whole robot story and the girl who was alone in a different world just went over my head. Was it supposed to be a metaphor? I couldn't catch the meaning at all.
Mar 17, 2022 4:58 PM
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ADDION_ said:
I finished the anime a bit ago and I thought the story was interesting however there were some things I didn't get:

And the whole robot story and the girl who was alone in a different world just went over my head. Was it supposed to be a metaphor? I couldn't catch the meaning at all.
what you should understand is that

the fate itself just changed, Remember that Okazaki always help people, then every time he does that (kindness) , an orb appears

yeah one might ask,ok sure but how tf that the characters survived and some shit? My answer is the fate is reversed, the timelime has changed

and no Okazaki never travelled back in time, its not steins gate kind of timeline changing cuz Okazaki cant remember anything when he "travel back in time" (correct me if im wrong, anybody)
One Piece is bad, really
Mar 17, 2022 5:02 PM
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Fansofeverything said:
ADDION_ said:
I finished the anime a bit ago and I thought the story was interesting however there were some things I didn't get:

And the whole robot story and the girl who was alone in a different world just went over my head. Was it supposed to be a metaphor? I couldn't catch the meaning at all.
what you should understand is that

the fate itself just changed, Remember that Okazaki always help people, then every time he does that (kindness) , an orb appears

yeah one might ask,ok sure but how tf that the characters survived and some shit? My answer is the fate is reversed, the timelime has changed

and no Okazaki never travelled back in time, its not steins gate kind of timeline changing cuz Okazaki cant remember anything when he "travel back in time" (correct me if im wrong, anybody)


To me it seemed like everything that happened was just undone conveniently and all that sad shit that happened was just to just play with your heartstrings so that the happy ending feels even better. Idk it just seemed like a deus-ex-machina to end the anime in a high note and I thought it was unnatural, maybe i'm missing something but it all seems too strange
Mar 17, 2022 5:06 PM
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ADDION_ said:
I finished the anime a bit ago and I thought the story was interesting however there were some things I didn't get:

And the whole robot story and the girl who was alone in a different world just went over my head. Was it supposed to be a metaphor? I couldn't catch the meaning at all.

The story of the robot and the girl was how nagisa survived in the last episode. The robot is Tomoya and the Girl is Ushio, and after ushio dies she wishes for Nagisa to survive so what happens is tomoya and ushio are in that world and they escape it and save nagisa. Which is all of because of the glowing wishes you see in the show. As in the glowing yellow orbs that are shown.
Mar 17, 2022 5:35 PM
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Akaasha said:
ADDION_ said:
I finished the anime a bit ago and I thought the story was interesting however there were some things I didn't get:

And the whole robot story and the girl who was alone in a different world just went over my head. Was it supposed to be a metaphor? I couldn't catch the meaning at all.

The story of the robot and the girl was how nagisa survived in the last episode. The robot is Tomoya and the Girl is Ushio, and after ushio dies she wishes for Nagisa to survive so what happens is tomoya and ushio are in that world and they escape it and save nagisa. Which is all of because of the glowing wishes you see in the show. As in the glowing yellow orbs that are shown.

I didn’t even ask but I needed an answer and you explained it perfectly thank you very much
Mar 17, 2022 5:40 PM
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So it is established early in the show that there are some supernatural elements that are tied to peoples wishes. It is even explained that the wish has to be genuine and that it cannot be done on your own. The girl and the robot exists outside time and space, they are in essence the afterlife. However, the it is the girls afterlife, the robot enter the girls afterlife by force and there for cannot assume its true form.

The kindness in Clannad is rewarded, so the ending is not a deus ex, since it's foreshadowed that anything is possible. Examples ranging from boys dying wish being carried over to his cat or Fuko appearing as a ghost eventho being in a coma just to setup her sisters wedding. Tomoya wish was to live as a family with Ushio and Nagisa. But for that to happen, he had to sacrifice all the orbs he collected and sacrifice Ushios world.

So can we lay down the whole deus ex complainet, there are other things to complain about and that is not one of them
Mar 17, 2022 6:00 PM
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this would be the perfect answer, I knew this but couldn't put in words like you
Mar 17, 2022 6:24 PM
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ADDION_ said:
Fansofeverything said:
what you should understand is that

the fate itself just changed, Remember that Okazaki always help people, then every time he does that (kindness) , an orb appears

yeah one might ask,ok sure but how tf that the characters survived and some shit? My answer is the fate is reversed, the timelime has changed

and no Okazaki never travelled back in time, its not steins gate kind of timeline changing cuz Okazaki cant remember anything when he "travel back in time" (correct me if im wrong, anybody)


To me it seemed like everything that happened was just undone conveniently and all that sad shit that happened was just to just play with your heartstrings so that the happy ending feels even better. Idk it just seemed like a deus-ex-machina to end the anime in a high note and I thought it was unnatural, maybe i'm missing something but it all seems too strange

This isn't a deus ex machina, the thing about the light orbs was already introduced in the beginning of the first season
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Mar 17, 2022 7:56 PM
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ADDION_ said:
I finished the anime a bit ago and I thought the story was interesting however there were some things I didn't get:

And the whole robot story and the girl who was alone in a different world just went over my head. Was it supposed to be a metaphor? I couldn't catch the meaning at all.

it's because the legend of the town where he live "when you find your happiness you will find a orb of light if you touch it. it will grant you a wish"that what he wished for when he say the light
Mar 17, 2022 8:57 PM

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well i just realised that i had the whole story wrong i might as well rewatch LMFAO
Mar 17, 2022 9:31 PM
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There were these orbs that were shown in anime. Those orbs grant wishes. Just right after Ushio died Tomoya wished for his life back so everything went to normal. He’s just a kind person in general so the orb went inside him, it “chose” him. He didn’t know any of that though, he didn’t know he has the chance to make a wish. At the end he was so desperate that the orb listened to him and granted his wish.


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Mar 17, 2022 9:51 PM
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Most importantly Tomoya’s wish is granted because he accepts all the pain and suffering he went through following Nagisa’s death. If he didn’t accept this, his wish would not have been granted. So basically it’s about how it’s better to live and suffer than to die, with the former being symbolically favored as the happy ending.
Mar 17, 2022 11:50 PM
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ADDION_ said:
well i just realised that i had the whole story wrong i might as well rewatch LMFAO

What do you mean? It's not the hidden world thing that makes Clannad so good you know.
Mar 18, 2022 12:55 AM

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Robot is literally Tomoya and girl is Ushio.
Ushio created this world in order to collect orbs and use them all to make something greater then just a wish, which is a miracle.

There is a phenomenal video clearly explaining the ending:

Mar 18, 2022 1:21 AM
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Just remember and focus to what Miyazawa Yukine
said in one of her stories. She talked about it
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the end of the arc if I'm not mistaken.
Mar 18, 2022 3:41 AM

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Fansofeverything said:
ADDION_ said:
I finished the anime a bit ago and I thought the story was interesting however there were some things I didn't get:

And the whole robot story and the girl who was alone in a different world just went over my head. Was it supposed to be a metaphor? I couldn't catch the meaning at all.
what you should understand is that

the fate itself just changed, Remember that Okazaki always help people, then every time he does that (kindness) , an orb appears

yeah one might ask,ok sure but how tf that the characters survived and some shit? My answer is the fate is reversed, the timelime has changed

and no Okazaki never travelled back in time, its not steins gate kind of timeline changing cuz Okazaki cant remember anything when he "travel back in time" (correct me if im wrong, anybody)

Yes I agree. :)
Although if I remember correctly he does have a sense of „deja vu“ when reversing the timeline
Mar 18, 2022 5:25 AM

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ADDION_ said:
I finished the anime a bit ago and I thought the story was interesting however there were some things I didn't get:

And the whole robot story and the girl who was alone in a different world just went over my head. Was it supposed to be a metaphor? I couldn't catch the meaning at all.

There is a perfect video on the subject called “the truth behind the girl and the robot” on YouTube. It is the best explanation you will get.
Mar 18, 2022 8:56 AM

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ADDION_ said:
Fansofeverything said:
what you should understand is that

the fate itself just changed, Remember that Okazaki always help people, then every time he does that (kindness) , an orb appears

yeah one might ask,ok sure but how tf that the characters survived and some shit? My answer is the fate is reversed, the timelime has changed

and no Okazaki never travelled back in time, its not steins gate kind of timeline changing cuz Okazaki cant remember anything when he "travel back in time" (correct me if im wrong, anybody)


To me it seemed like everything that happened was just undone conveniently and all that sad shit that happened was just to just play with your heartstrings so that the happy ending feels even better. Idk it just seemed like a deus-ex-machina to end the anime in a high note and I thought it was unnatural, maybe i'm missing something but it all seems too strange

You don’t know what a deus ex means then. Orbs were present in the very first episode, and they made appearances frequently after that.
Mar 18, 2022 10:16 AM

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i think the robot framing device makes a lot more sense in the context of the visual novel.
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Mar 18, 2022 7:12 PM

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Spaceman_Sp1ff said:
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To me it seemed like everything that happened was just undone conveniently and all that sad shit that happened was just to just play with your heartstrings so that the happy ending feels even better. Idk it just seemed like a deus-ex-machina to end the anime in a high note and I thought it was unnatural, maybe i'm missing something but it all seems too strange

You don’t know what a deus ex means then. Orbs were present in the very first episode, and they made appearances frequently after that.


I now see that it's not a deus ex, i thought it was a deus ex because I didn't understand what the orbs did. Now i can say that its not a deus ex

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