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Dec 19, 2021 7:02 PM
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I actually thought that this series would be done by Studio Wit but I guess MAPPA proved me wrong again. I guess MAPPA is not going to let any of the animators see their family this year, They are working on Chainsaw Man and many other series I hope they get some well deserved rest after this
Dec 19, 2021 9:01 PM
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let's look at it through a different perspective. atleast they got ahold of the hell trio (csm, jjk, hp) which are very popular and amazing story wise. so they could make a lot of money and get paid more.
Dec 19, 2021 9:03 PM
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beyondhorne said:
let's look at it through a different perspective. atleast they got ahold of the hell trio (csm, jjk, hp) which are very popular and amazing story wise. so they could make a lot of money and get paid more.


I'm going to inform you that animators barely get any money out of this. It's the committee and the CEOs that are gonna get rich.




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Dec 19, 2021 9:06 PM
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LordSozin said:

I'm going to inform you that animators barely get any money out of this. It's the committee and the CEOs that are gonna get rich.


well that's a bummer
Dec 19, 2021 9:09 PM
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beyondhorne said:
LordSozin said:

I'm going to inform you that animators barely get any money out of this. It's the committee and the CEOs that are gonna get rich.


well that's a bummer


The anime industry has been this way for decades. It really is a shame. While I not personally been in Japan, the improvement on treating animators to much a higher standard hasn't nudged from what I've heard.




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Dec 19, 2021 10:37 PM
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Yay another MAPPA hate thread, how original! Don't talk about WIT, Cloverworks, Bones, JC Staff... Just Mappa all over again. It's the same situation for most studios, MAPPA just takes the cake for making popular shows.

The BNH team has been working endlessly so that they can produce a season and each year and. A movie each two years for almost 6 years, Cloverworks is taking a lot of anime for being a small studio, and the director of wonder egg priority already passed out and went to the hospital two times during production. Skate into the infinity had its fair share of problems, WIT is taking lots of projects since they lost a giant amount of money, and it's a studio that's keen to overworking.

We could talk a lot more, but nope MAPPA is the bad guy here.
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Dec 19, 2021 10:43 PM
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Do you know how many animes CloverWork took for next year? How many animes J.C. staff used to do? Nope.

They're already a big studio, they have already said that the work of a better environment is initiated. Yet, people somehow keep coming back to this topic with their ignorant ass.
Dec 19, 2021 11:18 PM
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Seem like we’re going to see these type of thread for another year.
MAPPA is only in the spotlight. Others studio are also like this if not having more projects than MAPPA despite the numbers of employees are not as high as. This is an entire industry problem.
Dec 20, 2021 12:03 AM
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It is so weird that nobody is talking about cloverworks when they are working on more projects than mappa this year despite them being half the size of mappa in terms of studio workers.
Dec 20, 2021 12:53 AM

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Another thread on MAPPA being bad and not letting animators have rest when you don't realize that every animation company is just as bad when it comes to the work department.

At this point, the whole MAPPA situation has become a meme in the anime industry even when there are different teams that work on different projects for MAPPA. And, we're talking about MAPPA that has one of the biggest employee counts (250+) so that makes sense why they chose that many projects and why they can work on them simultaneously.

Normies acting like all the other studios are so good, it's just MAPPA that is bad. You gotta realize that if your name is not Kyoto Animation or Ufotable, then because of how Japanese work culture exists, this is not gonna change. Deal with it.
Dec 20, 2021 1:40 AM

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Aoi_Blue said:
I actually thought that this series would be done by Studio Wit but I guess MAPPA proved me wrong again. I guess MAPPA is not going to let any of the animators see their family this year, They are working on Chainsaw Man and many other series I hope they get some well deserved rest after this

Yeah another oblivious MAPPA HATER .
creatures like u keep making useless threads
Have u ever seen any other studio oh yeah sorry kids like u hung upon pessimistic news about a particular popular thing and keep spamming it till the end of your life .
Lemme show u some facts how fked up are other studios
Studio jc staff has 12 projects this
year(employees:190)
Studio bones has 5 projects this year
(employees:80)
Studio cloverworks has 6 projects this year
(employees:71)
Studio TMS has 9 projects this
year(employees:290)
Studio silver link has 8 projects this year
And studio mappa has 6 projects this year
(employees:250+ )
Studio cloverworks animators got
hospitalized during wonder egg priority
broadcast and studio madhouse animators
committed suicide due to overwork.
Mappa is Considered as one of the biggest anime studio with 300+ animator’s
Have u ever heard about freelancers. Mainly freelancers makes the job more easy and often utilised by most of the studio’s nowadays .
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Dec 20, 2021 2:07 AM

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Aoi_Blue said:
I actually thought that this series would be done by Studio Wit but I guess MAPPA proved me wrong again. I guess MAPPA is not going to let any of the animators see their family this year, They are working on Chainsaw Man and many other series I hope they get some well deserved rest after this
Taking 6-7 projects in one year is still normal, it's just mappa likes to taking a populer project rn (i bet mappa will animate Dandadan one day). Anime fandom nowaday is goddamn dumb rn, is it because of AOT S4 drama?
Dec 20, 2021 4:48 AM

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Another person who doesn't know how the industry works, but still made a hate thread about MAPPA.

Pls do a little research before starting threads like this, otherwise, it will just spread misinformation and generate unnecessary hate.
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Dec 20, 2021 8:22 AM

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Xshake said:
Aoi_Blue said:
I actually thought that this series would be done by Studio Wit but I guess MAPPA proved me wrong again. I guess MAPPA is not going to let any of the animators see their family this year, They are working on Chainsaw Man and many other series I hope they get some well deserved rest after this

Yeah another oblivious MAPPA HATER .
creatures like u keep making useless threads
Have u ever seen any other studio oh yeah sorry kids like u hung upon pessimistic news about a particular popular thing and keep spamming it till the end of your life .
Lemme show u some facts how fked up are other studios
Studio jc staff has 12 projects this
year(employees:190)
Studio bones has 5 projects this year
(employees:80)
Studio cloverworks has 6 projects this year
(employees:71)
Studio TMS has 9 projects this
year(employees:290)
Studio silver link has 8 projects this year
And studio mappa has 6 projects this year
(employees:250+ )
Studio cloverworks animators got
hospitalized during wonder egg priority
broadcast and studio madhouse animators
committed suicide due to overwork.
Mappa is Considered as one of the biggest anime studio with 300+ animator’s
Have u ever heard about freelancers. Mainly freelancers makes the job more easy and often utilised by most of the studio’s nowadays .

Exactly, very well summarized the situation of most of the studios, people who don't see that in other studios but in MAPPA are either hypocritical or ignorant.
Just because MAPPA adapts the popular manga people seem to see only them.
Dec 20, 2021 9:02 AM
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Okay let me clear this out. Anime industry always work like that. I'm a neutral person here. So if we compared all the studio fairly. Yes, MAPPA will be in the worst situation here in 2022.(I will include some of the anime that broadcast from this year to next year because according to animator they animate it until the last second before the last ep of that anime broadcasted)

JC stuff studio (staff 197)
-requiem of rose king
-executioner
-maho tsukai
-Demon next door

Cloverworks (staff 117)
-tokyo 24
-akebi sailor
-dress up darling
-spy x family (wit)
-bocchi
-kunoichi tsubaki

Wit (staff is unsure because the record 34 is from 2016 while other studios is 2021)
-spy x family (Cloverworks)
-rok (2021)
Movie
-bubble
Ova
-the girl from the other side
ONA
-vampire in the garden
-grimm

Mappa (250)
Anime
-aot
-csm
-hell Paradise
-dance dance
Movie
-alice and theresa
-yuri on ice
-zombieland
ONA
-kakegurui
Ova
-mechronicle

If we compared the amount of anime, yes MAPPA will be the most and also if we compared them through the genre, Mappa will also has the most action packed anime and it need more time and work to produced.


I put this here so you guys can refers to it and make the decision so enjoy !🤣
Dec 20, 2021 11:02 AM

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MAPPA has many animators and staff, including the most in the industry besides Ufotable, so each staff taked a different project. In fact the staff of each anime they are working on is different. Just look at CSM staff, JJK staff and AOT staff then compare it. after all not only MAPPA almost all popular studios including WIT, Cloverworks, Bones, JC Staff are also working on a lot of anime, but people tend to ignore this fact.
Dec 20, 2021 4:19 PM
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Snow_dropindo99 said:
MAPPA has many animators and staff, including the most in the industry besides Ufotable, so each staff taked a different project. In fact the staff of each anime they are working on is different. Just look at CSM staff, JJK staff and AOT staff then compare it. after all not only MAPPA almost all popular studios including WIT, Cloverworks, Bones, JC Staff are also working on a lot of anime, but people tend to ignore this fact.


Yes those haters really ignore the facts. But under my research, Mappa really having the most heavy works. You can refers the list I wrote up there. All of the staff are working on different anime and studio also will hire freelancers, most of the studio did that not only MAPPA, but this doesn't mean that the work of the animators. Every of them will be given certain scene to draw so their workload will be the same. Each scene uses weeks to months to complete. But yeah all the studio facing the same problem for this. The most vital problem is the genre taken. You can refers to the list I wrote, and you will found that most of the anime taken by MAPPA is action genre,which needs more time and work to animate. Aot,CSM,Jigo are all action packed anime, maybe some fans just worry about the quality.

Let me make an example, after aot s4p1 done producing, Mappa can use most of their worker to do aot s4p2 instead of taking another project. Since more worker they will have more time to produce more higher quality scene. So yeah if they really slow down the pace, I could've say that they are in the peak form and having good condition for worker like kyoani.
Dec 21, 2021 6:46 AM

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ignorant take incoming, but isn't it their job?
Dec 21, 2021 7:18 AM

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Xacobe01 said:
Yay another MAPPA hate thread, how original! Don't talk about WIT, Cloverworks, Bones, JC Staff... Just Mappa all over again. It's the same situation for most studios, MAPPA just takes the cake for making popular shows.

The BNH team has been working endlessly so that they can produce a season and each year and. A movie each two years for almost 6 years, Cloverworks is taking a lot of anime for being a small studio, and the director of wonder egg priority already passed out and went to the hospital two times during production. Skate into the infinity had its fair share of problems, WIT is taking lots of projects since they lost a giant amount of money, and it's a studio that's keen to overworking.

We could talk a lot more, but nope MAPPA is the bad guy here.

What the fuck are you smoking?
No one said that MAPPA is the only problematic studio and that all other studios are like heaven fir workers.
This is a forum for an anime made by MAPPA, why the fuck should we talk about other studios working conditions?
Dec 26, 2021 5:32 PM

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Look, that workload is pretty normal compared to their 2020 slate and Cloverworks' absurd pipeline. It just happened that they're taking bigger projects right now and that they're doing AOT S4 hence why they're under the spotlight.

If it ever happened that Madhouse or Bones ended up doing AOT S4 back then while having a big-name project under their belts, you bet that tons of hate threads and "ugh my sakuga but you need to rest" threads will be there even after the first cour and any subsequent announcements that they'll make will be filled with those.

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