| It’s definitely very gay. The main character is a trans man and he has 5 main love interests (though 2 of them are pretty one sided and unrequited by Richard), 4 of them are men and 1 of them is a woman. There’s quite a lot of focus on the romance, especially the main (gay) romances for the first and second arcs. In the first arc Richard is a teen/young man and the main love interest for him is Henry (their relationship will be introduced in probably around ep 2 or 3 of the anime). Henry tends to see Richard as more of a friend so their relationship isn’t explicit most of the way through except for a bit of horniness on the part of Richard. There’s also Edward as a love interest for Richard though it’s pretty much one sided. There are a couple of instances in the first arc where Richard is at risk of sexual assault, gets his shirt torn to reveal his breasts, etc., but it stops before he’s actually assaulted. Probably going beyond where a 1 season anime will go, but the 2nd arc where Richard is now about 30 years old is much more explicit and there’s a ton of romantic and sex scenes with another love interest from vol 10 onwards. |
| I guess you don't have to see the many possible couples as gay because you can imagine the MC (Richard) as a girl, since Richard is intersex and feminine in a lot of ways. Buuut Richard was brought up as a guy and identifies as one so there's that. The romance is one of the main points of the manga too, this series is basically a harem, and it's clearly intended for a female audience. There are many things differentiating this from a yaoi but there also are some points in common so if you don't like gay couples and gay romance, I don't think you will be able to enjoy this story. |
chitanda-0- said: thx for your answer :) i don't care that much about genders in a romance if it's good Personally I really liked the romance, I thought it fitted well in the angsty drama and thoroughly characterised protagonists. The UST was super nice as well, if you're into that kind of thing. I hope you like it. |
UST stands for Unresolved Sexual Tension, basically it's when characters really love each other (unrequieted feelings count as well though) but for some reason they cannot express it. |
Vonssi said: the main character is intersex (as mentioned in the manga synopsis and Wikipedia - not trans) He's both intersex and trans - being trans and being intersex aren't mutually exclusive or really related to eachother closely at all. It's made clear throughout the manga (though especially in the next volume, 14, after where the English release is at) that his biological sex is female, so the fact his gender is male makes him trans. |
| so is it like shinsekai yori , where the gay part was only a small part of it and nothing too big ? i am not big up for yaoi stuff , but things like shinsekai yori was more than watchable , even though a lot of people said it was gay and all that ..... or is it more explicit and focused on the yaoi parts than shinsekai yori ? |
| Nothing is explicitly shown or anything. It's more like a part of the historical era it is set in, power control on Richard's way to the throne and also part of character development. |
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| it’s both hella gay and no homo at the same time lol |
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| It's not gay. But it will make you feel like it is. |
| With this great voice actor as narrator ... definitely giving this a try. Though I got careful when reading "Shoujo" for the manga (first thought shounen but already wondered about the Bishounen guys) - without many other female chars listed (and no one as main) ... I already feared Yaoi/Boys Love - even though this isn't listed in the tags. The setting is really great. Britain and that era. |
klakson188 said: It's not gay. But it will make you feel like it is. Um, there's multiple major gay romances (Richard/Henry, Richard/Buckingham, etc.) in this series, up to and including sex scenes. It definitely is gay. |
AnimeSocMegan said: klakson188 said: It's not gay. But it will make you feel like it is. Um, there's multiple major gay romances (Richard/Henry, Richard/Buckingham, etc.) in this series, up to and including sex scenes. It definitely is gay. Richard is half male half female so it's debatable. In manga during romance scenes he is mostly portrayed as female. (his overarall body is female but with both sex's genitals) He is more like a futanari material than yaoi material |
klakson188 said: AnimeSocMegan said: Um, there's multiple major gay romances (Richard/Henry, Richard/Buckingham, etc.) in this series, up to and including sex scenes. It definitely is gay. Richard is half male half female so it's debatable. In manga during romance scenes he is mostly portrayed as female. (his overarall body is female but with both sex's genitals) He is more like a futanari material than yaoi material so he has d*ck & p**sy at the same time? |
Zesshhi said: klakson188 said: Richard is half male half female so it's debatable. In manga during romance scenes he is mostly portrayed as female. (his overarall body is female but with both sex's genitals) He is more like a futanari material than yaoi material so he has d*ck & p**sy at the same time? Yes, but they won't show it. Also he/she has female boobs. |
AnimeSocMegan said: It’s definitely very gay. The main character is a trans man and he has 5 main love interests (though 2 of them are pretty one sided and unrequited by Richard), 4 of them are men and 1 of them is a woman. There’s quite a lot of focus on the romance, especially the main (gay) romances for the first and second arcs. In the first arc Richard is a teen/young man and the main love interest for him is Henry (their relationship will be introduced in probably around ep 2 or 3 of the anime). Henry tends to see Richard as more of a friend so their relationship isn’t explicit most of the way through except for a bit of horniness on the part of Richard. There’s also Edward as a love interest for Richard though it’s pretty much one sided. There are a couple of instances in the first arc where Richard is at risk of sexual assault, gets his shirt torn to reveal his breasts, etc., but it stops before he’s actually assaulted. Probably going beyond where a 1 season anime will go, but the 2nd arc where Richard is now about 30 years old is much more explicit and there’s a ton of romantic and sex scenes with another love interest from vol 10 onwards. thanks for the info my guy because of that i won't watch it hahaha it looked interesting to me but eh if it's really that gay then i'll pass on it |
AnimeSocMegan said: It’s definitely very gay. The main character is a trans man and he has 5 main love interests (though 2 of them are pretty one sided and unrequited by Richard), 4 of them are men and 1 of them is a woman. There’s quite a lot of focus on the romance, especially the main (gay) romances for the first and second arcs. In the first arc Richard is a teen/young man and the main love interest for him is Henry (their relationship will be introduced in probably around ep 2 or 3 of the anime). Henry tends to see Richard as more of a friend so their relationship isn’t explicit most of the way through except for a bit of horniness on the part of Richard. There’s also Edward as a love interest for Richard though it’s pretty much one sided. There are a couple of instances in the first arc where Richard is at risk of sexual assault, gets his shirt torn to reveal his breasts, etc., but it stops before he’s actually assaulted. Probably going beyond where a 1 season anime will go, but the 2nd arc where Richard is now about 30 years old is much more explicit and there’s a ton of romantic and sex scenes with another love interest from vol 10 onwards. There are no trans men here. He is intersex. |
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texasfangirl1999 said: Yaa that's truly disgusting. People don't even think twice before writing something like that...Finally someone gets it, trans and intersex are two very different things. Also all the people calling Richard a "futanari" are disgusting, that's a porn term and not a synonym for a trans for intersex person, it's gross. |
texasfangirl1999 said: Finally someone gets it, trans and intersex are two very different things. Also all the people calling Richard a "futanari" are disgusting, that's a porn term and not a synonym for a trans for intersex person, it's gross. ZXEAN said: texasfangirl1999 said: Yaa that's truly disgusting. People don't even think twice before writing something like that...Finally someone gets it, trans and intersex are two very different things. Also all the people calling Richard a "futanari" are disgusting, that's a porn term and not a synonym for a trans for intersex person, it's gross. Well, many people don't even care about shows with simple premise, what do you want from a show where you need some kind of understanding? |
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He's both intersex and a trans man. They're not mutually exclusive, plenty of intersex people are trans (it's actually a lot more common than with non-intersex people). For reference I've read the entire manga in EN and JP up to this week's final chapter. |
Minonoke said: Oh boy sorry but you really got the manga wrong xD maybe you should read also Shakespeares' Richard or henry's play too to understand the actual depth of it. You say so many wrong things (it's not about opinion more like about understanding) but I am too tired and I think you should read the story again. How you portray Henry shows enough that you didn't get it AT ALL (also his whole traumatic background and how his issues with women because of it). Also please use spoiler tags at least. Also Earls's intentions and what he desires. And please people who are interested in this story it's not SHOUNEN AI or yaoi at all. Richard is intersexual, and not born as a female. He's having both signs of gender, it was said a couple of times and also by the author. He has a strong identity crisis, it's basically quite a lot for character development... Honestly, I think this plain Fujo behavior is just sad and I hope the story won't get any stamp because of it, the beauty of this story is that it's actually NOT about gender at all... I've read the entire manga in English and Japanese multiple times through, plus Shakespeare's plays. What did I get wrong exactly? And yes I understand Henry's trauma with women, it's a huge part of his character. The manga is not a BL as it is not labelled/portrayed as such but it does have a main focus gay/MLM romance. |
AnimeSocMegan said: He's both intersex and a trans man. They're not mutually exclusive, plenty of intersex people are trans (it's actually a lot more common than with non-intersex people). For reference I've read the entire manga in EN and JP up to this week's final chapter. He was never a trans. He is an intersex man with female organs who has always identified himself as a man. And it doesn't matter how many intersex people are trans nowadays, we are talking about a specific work in a historical setting. By claiming that he is trans, you literally deny the character's main problem. You can read the manga as many times as you like, even 100. This does not guarantee that you can understand it correctly. And yes, this story is typical "legal" BL with an appropriate audience. |
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| I am so confused about this thread, you are all saying different things and contradicting each other The question wasn't even hard, I can't believe I had to read every answer here and still came out not knowing who the fuck is right xD |
chitanda-0- said: so...i'm really into dark fantasy stuff and the character desigh looks cool. i want to know what to except if i'll be watching, will it be yaoi? normal romance? half/half? thanks (・ω・) Short answer, yeah it's gay Long answer, yeah it's gay asf |
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Minonoke said: god sorry so much bullshit in one post. its not yaoi at all!!! its an historical dark fantasy, nothing more or less. Dont listen to someone clearly didn't understand the manga at all. You said it yourself, I don't care about the Manga, I watched the Anime and I didn't like it, the guy asked how gay it is and I gave him my opinion, a guy who have 5 love interests all males and you say it's not gay and it's not the main focus, people already said more than enough on this post regarding the whole story of the Manga It's just my opinion and others who already posted here you don't have to agree with it |
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| I went and read the manga after the first episode… I wouldn’t read it if it felt like a gay story y but this one wasn’t… i felt sorry for people born like Richard at the old century and I would say the story will develop to become more and more clear later as its nor gay |
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