Separate Favorite Movies and Series

zombie_pegasus said:
You can't imagine just how many times this has been denied. It's not as bad as "add half scores" but it's still been requested a lot of times and never accepted, for good reason. Why would movies get a special treatment anyway? Movies are just other anime. We're not going to have a separate category for every anime type, in fact not everyone has even seen enough ONAs or music videos to construct a top 10 list for them, so what makes movies so special? It's perfectly acceptable to put movies in your favourites list and if you want to go ahead, otherwise keep them in a blog.

Nuralit said:

So I'm assuming you would consider a Top 5 list of both Live Action Movies and TV Series to be a reasonable thing?

Movies and series have different qualities, it doesn't make sense to lump everything together. You don't judge things like pacing the same way for a movie as for a series.

zombie_pegasus said:
Anidb has a max of 50 favourites that you can use for anything you want. Sure, the pacing in movies is very different, but everything is different. A 100 minute movie and a 100 minute TV series aren't going to feel the same way, but an action anime and a slice of life anime also aren't going to feel the same way. We can't separate everything. If you want more top 10 lists use your blog.

ZetsubouZero said:



Media and genre are two really different things. Therefore, the comparison isn't really appropriate. It's not about how it feel or their genre, it's about the limitations of each media.

Using the "about me" is a half-measure. The problem will still be there. Using the bio just means that you'll close your eyes and pretend that the problem isn't there. That's fine. But I can't agree with the thought that Tv Series and Movies should be rated in the same way. Consequently, it's pretty weird to compare different things and put it together on the same favorite list.
It just doesn't make any sense to me.

Rayzer said:
Yeah,
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1668856
No.

Nuralit said:

But that thread doesn't really rule anything out, beyond you expanding the idea to absurdity.
Manga, Manwha and Manhua aren't different in the same way that series and movies (or a general category for single-episode/standalone anime, which would also be fine by me) are. Neither are Light Novels and books.

Rayzer said:
Heh what now? What made you think you can split Movies and Anime Series when you can't split those categories?
Please no, You just want to expand your favorite, you are just being greedy.
Just use your "About Me" section. In the end nobody cares about your profile.

nymi said:
Here is for movies

https://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=movie

Here is for series

https://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=tv

Here is for ova

https://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=ova

Here is for special

https://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=special

If it is categories you are talking about then look at that feature.

Nuralit said:

Movies and Anime Series are inherently structurally different.
Manga, Manwha and Manhua have little difference beyond language, and Light Novels and Books also have little difference beyond a convenient name for a book that isn't so dense.

In the end, I don't really care about your edgy self or your incoherent reply.

Rayzer said:
Seriously man, you are blindsiding the first part to continue your greediness.
As I said there, if they do that, then they should also separate OVA,ONA, Music and Specials.
Because those also got "different structures". And if that happens it should also reflect the manga database to balance it.

Paul said:
I also want a separate favorite ova, special, music and ona category. Oh and separate each into 43 different lists for each genre.

DancingTheBa said:
I think we should just add a completely new thing to our favorites "western cartoons" because we don't have one for that. While we're at it let's ago add a favorites list for your favorite memes, memes are a crucial part in everyone's anime watching experience

Chavez said:
The following suggestions have already been posted and rejected:

• "More open spots for favorite anime/manga/character/staff"
  No. If you desperately need more spots, use the blog function.

Rayzer said:
@Nuralit
Seriously you won't stop this huh?

You just wanted 10 entries on both Favorite on your proposed "TV Series" and "Movies" right? That's greediness.
Okay lets say they did this stupid thing then you are only allowed to have a total of 10 entries on both "TV Series" and "Movies" anime.
That means You are just gonna have 6 "TV Series" and 4 "Movies", etc. But since this is just dumb to expand the columns of profile it won't happen.

Nuralit said:

I won't stop refuting your half assed attempts at criticizing the idea, no.
It's not about number of entries, it's about categorization. It doesn't make sense to rank apples and oranges.
Please, apply yourself. Saying "It's just dumb" is not an argument, especially when this website already has separate categories for the media types of different works in general and just doesn't use them in the profile features.

Rayzer said:
Did you even read what I posted? You just reacted stupidly on my arguments and spew a lot of nonsense. I already said:
Start making points not spewing half brain thoughts you are making. You won't get anywhere if you keep ignoring points.

Nuralit said:

I didn't ignore what you posted. I explained very clearly to you that this isn't about the number of entries, but about proper categorization. The number of entries is up to the administrators. All I'm suggesting is a small layout addition in the form of a column.
I'm sorry about your illiteracy.

Rayzer said:
Heh, sorry for not being a Telepath to know what you are thinking because you don't explain yourself clearly.
Up to administrators? It's obviously gonna be a total of 10 entries on both sections you are asking for non-subscribers.
Then waht's next? Someone gonna create suggestions to separate Light Novel and Manga, Directors, Writers, Voice Actors, Animators, etc.?
Lol, I know you don't care about those stuff, but that's gonna happen if they implement this. Because they need to balance the site.
They just can't separate Movies/Films because you want it that badly then ignore the other categories and other DB.

Rayzer said:
@Narulit
> Hayao Miyazaki on favorites.
> Ghibli Movies on favorites.
> Obsessed on Movies made by Studio Ghibli.

No shit Sherlock, you really wanted to separate movies because of "Academy Awards" and Live-Action as reference? really?
This is an Anime Website, MAL doesn't care on what form of media was an Anime was, This is just a listing site and discussions.
Anime Films still falls on Anime as a whole, It can't be split up just because It's getting more money, recognition and awards.
I don't need to be part of MAL just to say it won't be implemented. When you stayed and read on forums you will know it's not gonna work.
This ain't happening. So just go back to lurking around and don't post on forums just to beg for this shit.

Nuralit said:

Your best retort is to check my profile for some sort of fuel for a personal attack?
You know, I'm actually glad we've reached this point. This really proves you have no idea what you're talking about, and don't even have the most basic level of reading comprehension to discuss this properly.

Shit, you're even greentexting in MAL, and doing it wrong with spaces after the arrows and capital letters. You really are a living joke and I'm glad I've come across you.

By the way, there's only a single Ghibli movie in my favorites. Maybe you should actually watch them.

zombie_pegasus said:
Actually, his points are sound. Sure, movies are made differently than series, but at the end of the day they're all anime and so they can all be judged the same. We don't have different categories for anything else so having this one exception doesn't make sense.

zombie_pegasus said:
Actually, his points are sound. Sure, movies are made differently than series, but at the end of the day they're all anime and so they can all be judged the same. We don't have different categories for anything else so having this one exception doesn't make sense.

Nuralit said:

No they can't. You don't judge live action movies and live action series in the same way, why would you do so for animated ones? It doesn't make any sense.
This kind of thinking enforces a lowest common denominator attitude towards animation. Film and live action series buffs don't throw everything in the same bag, I don't get why anime fans care so little about the art in comparison.

zombie_pegasus said:
@ZetsubouZero
Actually, separating light novels and manga in favourites would be just as logical. After all, one is comic book format at the other is mostly text. MAL's rules does state that you can't ask for more favourites. There actually are awards for the best OVAs so we should have a separate favourites list for those too, right? We don't need specific favourites like this. You can use your blog. This isn't a flaw in MAL's logic, it's a flaw in yours. Just because there are different awards for different things doesn't mean MAL should have separate favourites lists for them. In this day and age where most people watch stuff on the internet anyway it matters less and less where something originally aired.

zombie_pegasus said:
Nothing can be compared, then. Why not just call every anime your favourite of its own little category that nothing else fits into? "You can't compare moe sports to battle harem or shoujo action drama to military yuri so these all need their own categories in our favourites lists". At a certain point you just need to get better at comparing things rather than relying on others to take out the need to develop that skill. People compare SAO to King's Avatar even though SAO is a TV series and King's Avatar is an ONA. It doesn't matter where something originally aired. I can compare Kimi no Na Wa to Rec since they're both romance related anime even though one's a movie and the other is a TV series, in fact they're both around the same length. Akira and Baccano are easily comparable despite being of different type. I could even compare Insterstella5555 to No Game No Life even though one of them is a music video and the other is a TV series. They have a lot of similarities despite having aired in very different ways. We shouldn't be stuck in this idea that where something originally aired dictates what kind of anime it needs to be and what anime it should be compared to.

Nuralit said:

Stop jumping to conclusions and using ad absurdum, it's almost like that's all you're capable of doing.
You can compare anime series and movies if you want, just as I can compare an anime series and a manga series. But as I've told you before, if we come to the conclusion that it's justifiable to have different lists for anime and manga, then we must necessarily admit that format is relevant to whether something deserves a list or not.

The format of movies is unique to them. You can compare different things, but if you want to use the argument that you can just lump everything together, then I can use ad absurdum just like you and say "Why not join all four favorite lists together and just call it your favorite things?"

But it doesn't work that way.
I swear this is just aversion to change.

zombie_pegasus said:
A lot of types have both 1 episode anime and multi episode anime. What would you do about them? Can you compare Fire Tripper to LoGH when one is 1 episode and the other is 110? I personally think you can. Everything is made in a different way. Is it the length that's made you come to this conclusion or something else? Afro Samurai, Madoka Magica, and Eve no Jikan all have movie and series versions that are practically identical. Can these not be compared to themselves just because of how they were released? Can Yuru Yuri Nachuyachumi! even be compared to itself when it was originally aired in theaters as a previewing and later properly aired on DVD/blu-ray? What about Red Data Girl and Relife that were originally aired on the internet and later aired on TV? Most anime that air on TV also have disc releases that differ in some ways to the TV version making those edits home video original and therefore incomparable to the original, correct?

No, but seriously, I see no reason to separate anime series and movies. An anime can be broken into as many parts as it wants to and it won't change the story, characters, animation, art, or sound. Also, Anidb has 50 favourites slots which can be filled with anything in the database (ie. favourite things) and that seems to work fine for them.