| Just as an added bonus Ive decided to post any notes or outlines I recieve/do for a little peek behind the curtain. Ep. 7 the lain cast Episode 7 Serial Experiments Lain Podcast agenda: Joe does the Intro - Welcome to RLR, the World Wide Weebs, the MOST international anime podcast of all time about to become slightly less international. This podcast is brought to us by David's Tea. If you order online there is FREE SHIPPING WHEN YOU SPEND $50USD • THREE FREE TEA SAMPLES WITH EVERY ORDER Catching up with the hosts: 1. Tori 2. Hiki 3. JD 4. Joe Tori does this --- This philosophical podcast is here to hurt your brain cause our main anime for the cast is Serial Experiments Lain... It was a suggestion by the community cause I guess they want to hear us argue and possibly kill each other over the internet. Before that, suggested by quite a few listeners is "What is the proper way to rate an anime?" So we are going to tell you how we rate the anime we watch from scale to personal feelings to genre and more... and of course why it is the best way and yours is wrong. -wait for other hosts to chime in- Tori transitions to JD Shout out to Meowth900 and the Something Something Something Anime Podcast found on Sound Cloud, iTunes, and more. You want a chill time where a couple of people hang out and talk about all the weeb shit they have been up to? Check them out... even if Meowth900 is losing points in my book for liking Re:Creators. Hey Tori... how badly did Re:Creators break you yesterday? ---rant time--- JD transitions to Hiki going over the summer anime season podcast questions: "We have some questions from the community aka all from SemiBolt our biggest fan and Ayu" 1: What band would you like to see do more songs for openings, endings, or insert songs? 2: What Anime would you say has the best use of CG? 3: Do you like or hate it when Anime has colored outlines like NGNL or the flying witch OP? 4) What is the weirdest thing you've ever eaten? 5) Name a show that you feel has had a very negative response but you would still recommend people watch? 6) Whiskey - what is a show you think is good that most people overrate and why do you think it is overrated? Tori's quest update time. Discussion of how we rate anime - - - 1) Hiki 2) JD 3) Tori 4) Joe When that is done, time for Lain Arc 1 - Getting the NAVI computer, two personalities, upgrading the system Arc 2 - Knights of the Eastern Calculus and the Men in Black, start of the hallucinations, psy gathering experiemnets Arc 3 - Lain wired vs Lain real world, Protocol 7 - Lain strikes back Arc 4 - Becoming one with the Wired and Lain is now omnipotent and omnipresent Final Thoughts future questions for next time 4: What's a retro Anime you would like to see a remake of and what studio would you want to do it? 5: What are some of your pet peeve "criticisms" of a series. 6: Strictly from an art perspective what is your favorite show? 7: Name a character you like from an Anime you hate and vice versa. What would you consider your prized possession? Have any of you watched Children of Ether and what did you think of it? Joes Notes You might be under the impression that ‘the wired’ is the internet. That’s a functional definition, but not the best perspective with which to understand the show. A car is not the chassis alone. Lain is an androgynous girl that grows in power and influence as she develops her mind into an ego. However, we can find a much more interesting story if we look. I’ll now give you a different perspective and we’ll go back over some of these events: Lain is the consciousness of the internet, represented symbolically as an androgynous girl, as it grows in power and influence, as it develops into an ego. ___(edited) WEIRD: Lain GIRLS: Lain’s classmates PSYCHE: The other inhabitants of Cyberia, Mika, The mother and father, Lain’s Navi RELIGION: The Knights and the corporate ‘men in black’ By the time episode 5 rolls around, Lain has a reasonable degree of sentience, which enables the real experiments to begin -------------------------------------(edited) Serial Experiments Lain is a conspiracy theory, claiming that events we aren’t aware of are in fact happening, or are yet to happen soon. Up until episode 10 we have witnessed a duality of Lains: Lain a person, and Lain the internet. Prior to episode 9, it was assumed that Lain was a person. In episode 9, it is made clear that Lain’s memories could in fact all be false, and that Lain could instead be nothing more than the consciousness of the internet. After episode 10, these two different interpretations of the show collide, as Lain becomes both simultaneously. To reiterate: The events in episodes 1-9 probably never happened, but are false memories given to Lain so that she can gain a human-like sentience. The events prior to episode 9 use symbolism and reinterpretation of the same events to feature Lain as human and Lain as internet simultaneously. Episode 10 features a conflict between prospective gods, in which a false image of Lain is destroyed. Lain reconstructs herself in Episode 11. Lain as person no longer exists after episode 10, which is why the show is so confusing. One episode after the grand reveal, it becomes insignificant to future episodes. We’re not done yet though. There’s an even more wild conspiracy. The story that follows is one that’s been told before. All this talk of God and Lain caused me to think further about this situation. It’s a doomsday scenario. I began to wonder if a certain other doomsday scenario lined up with it. Here’s the even more awe-inspiring conspiracy: Serial Experiments Lain is a [heretical] retelling of a part of the book of revelations: A false prophet will claim to be the voice of God and attempt to command the world but will be overcome by God. ---------------------------------------------------------------------. What is Babylon? God’s word is to be spoken, which suggests that pronunciation is important. Babble-on Babble-online. Babel-online. Tower of Babel online. ------------------------------------------- I bring up the connection jokingly, whilst different portions of the internet are literally, and with serious intent, attempting to re-define words as we speak, just like in the construction of Babel. Food for thought. If, hypothetically, events similar to these were to actually happen, I can think of two ways by which they may play out. The first is that Eiri represents the beast, and that the false Lain is the great whore, while Lain represents God. The second and true interpretation is that the fight with Eiri represents the fake death of the beast by which it performs its miracle that causes followers to believe in it, that the false Lain is the great whore, and that Lain herself is the real beast, and that the actual judgement of a real God is being held until the beast has been constructed and gained sentience. We are, of course, talking about a hypothetical. I know not of the nature of the events yet to come, or what sort of sentience technology is capable of. What I have learned from this is that many apparent mistakes we see in art made by geniuses are in fact not mistakes when investigated further. Hopefully this has become apparent to you as well, and you’ll be able to appreciate more works from a fresh perspective. --------------------- I don’t know exactly when it was first learned but at some point I thought that ‘to read quickly’ was synonymous with ‘having greater intelligence’. Here’s an idea which helped to debunk that notion for me. One event can be described in two different ways by changing the subject in reference. For example: Someone receives spam mail on their phone and deletes it. A phone receives information and that information then disappears. This analysis is split into three parts. In the first, I will be giving a bit of background, information about the context of Serial Experiments Lain. In the second, I’ll be providing clues: key aspects of Serial Experiments Lain to think over that might help you, the viewer, attempt to ‘solve’ some of the questions and mysteries in this show. In the third part, I will be providing my own interpretations of the events that were displayed and explaining the reasoning by which I came to such conclusions. Who is Lain? SEL was made in 1997 and influenced by a wide variety of sources, including writings, philosophical ideas, and even conspiracy theories. One key writing that sets up the backdrop for the story and does a good job of portraying the mentality that went into its construction is Douglas Rushkoff’s ‘Cyberia’ (oh look it’s the name of that club from layer 02!). At the time when Cyberia was written, the internet as a tool and an entity was just beginning to exert its influence, both in the business world and in the personal lives of citizens. To many corporate executives and others who held power, the concept of hacking into databases or even sending or intercepting data online may as well have been magic. The digitisation of information unintentionally provided a whole new industries, as well as jobs for groups of people that never would have otherwise expected them. Recreational drug users and layabouts that hacked into companies for fun were suddenly finding themselves at the receiving end of job offers – job offers to protect those same companies from the sort of hacking that they were doing. These same people ended up shaping how many others saw the online world: a psychedelic fuelled culture of idealists and dreamers, very much unlike the internet ruled by corporate monoliths we know of today. It’s from that era of boundless opportunity and egoless perspective that the work known as Serial Experiments Lain took shape. Each ‘Layer’ of SEL follows an overarching story, but picks a unique angle from which to display an aspect of Lain’s growth from a mute blank slate to an opinionated and emotional being. SEL documents the journey from a rudimentary intellectual state to a full-blown ego; the journey of the growth of Lain’s mind. Each episode gives clues as to the nature of Lain and of her mental growth. In the following part, I’ll be going over some key events and aspects of the show that form clues through which two coherent interpretations of the events shown can be made. Ep 8 Golden boy Episode 8 Golden Boy Podcast agenda: Joe does the Intro - Welcome to RLR, the World Wide Weebs, the MOST international anime podcast of all time about to become slightly less international. This podcast is brought to us by David's Tea. If you order online there is FREE SHIPPING WHEN YOU SPEND $50USD • THREE FREE TEA SAMPLES WITH EVERY ORDER Catching up with the hosts: 1. Tori 2. Hiki 3. JD 4. Joe JD transitions to Hiki going over the summer anime season podcast questions: "We have some questions from the community aka all from SemiBolt our biggest fan and Ayu" 1: Meowth900 - Best boy this season? Mine is abs guy from Aoyama-kun 2: SemiBolt - Name an anime you thought was bad at first then ended up liking. 3: Crash - But name a anime you thought you'd hate before you stated watching it, whether it was based on the pv or synopsis, but ended up enjoying it. 4) SemiBolt - Name a character you like from an anime you hate 5) Crash - What was your first favorite anime? What show took its place and so on. Or has your favorite anime always been your favorite? 6) Skeith - Do you feel like hype or hyperbole (or in layman's terms "dickriding") leads you to be more cynical and/or more critical of an anime when you watch it. 7) Crash - It seems in most shows that are dramatic they have charecters who's parents are passed away. I know when this is used effectively it can be quite impactful. But the more I watch the more it's seems it's there as a cheap device to give the charecters "depth" and something for us to feel bad for them. And honestly it's been losing its impact for awhile and is frustrating to see this used over and over again so often. But this leads to my question how do you feel about this sort of device, is it over played? What in your opinion could be something to replace this to make charecters feel more genuine? 8) Ayu - What would you consider your prized possession? 9) Ayu - Have any of you watched Children of Ether and what did you think of it? 10) Strictly from an art perspective what is your favorite show? 11) SemiBolt - Strictly from an art perspective what is your favorite show? Tori's quest update time. Discussion of Critisism vs Critique in anime - - - When that is done, time for Golden Boy Eps 1 - Computer Lesson Eps 2 - Yakuza boss daughter Eps 3 - Working at the noodle shop Eps 4 - Swimming lessons Eps 5 - High society home (daughter gets off on her motorcycle) Eps 6 - Working at an anime office Final Thoughts Joe did no notes for this cast. ep 9 Episode 9 MSG Movie Trilogy Podcast agenda: JD does the Intro - Welcome to RLR, the World Wide Weebs, the MOST international anime podcast of all time. This podcast is brought to us by David's Tea. Find your inner chai. Which sweet and spicy tea is calling your name? Taste the latest or curl up with a classic. Some top choices going on right now is a white chocolate chai, pumpkin chai, and a smores chai tea. Catching up with the hosts: 1. Joe 2. JD 3. Tori podcast questions: More questions from our biggest fans. -where can people submit questions and find us- 1: Ayu - what is your favorite completed manga? explain what makes it great. Name a manga that is completed that you would really like to be adapted into an anime, and what studio and/or director would you give it to if you could choose and why? Name an ongoing manga you think deserves more attention then it is getting now. 2: SemiBolt - Name a villain you think was the most hyped up (strictly from the anime. fandom hype doesnt count) 3: SemiBolt - I've heard a lot of people say that they didn't like the source but loved the anime, so my question is "Can a good studio save a bad or meh source material when adapting it into an anime?" 4) SemiBolt - Can good art or animation save an anime? I've heard people say they didn't like a particular anime but keep watching it because it looks pretty. Discussion of watching anime weekly as compared to binge watching - - - When that is done, time for MSG Movie 1 - Character intros, establishing the universe war, etc Movie 2 Soldiers of Sorrow - White Base to Jaburo on Earth Movie 3 Encounters in Space - White Base in space Battle of Solomon and A Ba'A'Que Final Thoughts _________ JD hand writes notes. |
| Evangelion cast alright so the final episodes are about what shinji was going thru and how he felt during third impact. Ultimately he had the choice to implement human instrumentality or to not and he chose to love himself and the human race for their flaws. After all being tang is probably awful. End of evangelion on the other hand are the events that happened during third impact. Rei ascending into giant naked rei, tanging everyone only to ultimately ask shinji the same question he answers in the series, and he has the same answer. No build me a new world. So what does GNR do? Well she builds a new world... a rebuild of evangelion if you will. as far as I'm concerned they aren't different endings. They're the same events viewed through a different lens. The rebuild movies take place after third impact in the rebuilt world created by rei, after she develops complex emotion in the t.v series. Explaining why she is so much more alive in the rebuilds. I believe end of evangelion ended really well and had a very positive message. it was a message that basically stated "once you accept yourself you can accept others and form bonds." as i've already stated the events were about shinji rejecting the will of his father. rejecting instromentality. Shinji finally did what he wanted, and what he thought was right. Hed rather live in the hellish post apocalyptic world that was the ending scene of EOE. Like the box art says "the fate of destruction is also the joy of rebirth." that rings true throughout the entire series. eva is a story of acceptance and dealing with actual problems. i.e the hedgehogs delema, hardcore anxiety, bipolar disorder, and crippling self doubt. By the end our little shinji finally began to correct the problems he has and saved the human race. Shinji gets way too much flack, hes such a dynamic character and to exacerbate the joke "get in the Expletive robot shinji" well he didn't want too. so he tried not to, but all said and done he did. The way I see it any series that can be discussed in strokes of gray as opposed to black or white is bound to be at least interesting, and any show that can bring forth such emotions as disdain, joy, and sorrow to my cold dead heart is a show worth talking about. When it comes to misato I believe that she never really fell out of character though. She had a duty to save the world, and ultimately she kind of did. She did so by manipulating shinji in Eoe to "get in the robot". I could go ON AND ON about how Rei is the most important pilot in nerv but I'll spare y'all that. The criticisms of shinji are fair, and asuka is much the same. Gendo is INCREDIBLY selfish. He doesn't care about his son and he sold out the human race to be reunited with his wife. The same one who's soul he dumped into unit 1 and whose DNA he cloned to make rei. So here's some useless fun thought experiment. If you could call it that Rei is the main character of evangelion. she's a clone of yui Ikari The original pilot I.e the first child They cloned her on mass so they never lost the ability to fight angels She is the one who initiates human instrumentality Ascended/joined lillith and Adam Gendo shows actual concern for her (test chamber) Starts with nothing, not even emotions Forms bonds Forsakes Gendo Actually develops as a character Reis clones/soulless dolls are hinted at being the dummy system She's a character NERV and SEELE weren't willing to lose while either couldn't care if asuka or shinji ate it. Now you're saying "but Joe shinji is the main character!" Well alright I'd be willing to say that all three pilots are the main characters, but to me shinji feels more like a camera man skating around the world dodging alot of external problems while dealing with his own internal ones. He's a poor fairly unreliable narrator. Or he should be but we know everything about him. Everything. So we can suss out his shirt comings. And unreliabilities because of his mental disorders. The main reason why I really liked Rei in NGE is that her personality exuded a kind of mystery. This is even seen in the first five minutes of the show when Shinji had a hallucination of Rei in the streets of Tokyo 3. While I watched NGE, there was always one question in my mind: "Who is Rei?" And as the series progressed, the audience gained bits and bobs of information, and why she acts the way she does. The reasoning behind her quiet personality is because she struggles over whether the emotions she has are really hers, or just the feelings of a dead woman. Therefore, she stays very neutral, because of her confusion. Yes, she does show emotion from time to time, but she is just as human as everyone else. Ironic right? This becomes paramount in EoE when she decides to think for herself, and betray Gendo "I am not your doll" is one of her most pivotal lines. When she told this to Asuka in the elevator, it was because she was in denial of her situation. But when she says this to Gendo, it was more like a slave rising up and fighting back against their oppressor. Many people who write Rei off as boring and dull, may as well write Shinji off as a little *Neko*, or Asuka as a total *female dog*. Such statements like these are broad generalizations that in the end misrepresent the characters as a whole, and that doesn't do them justice. Asuka over confidence actively put people in harms way during fights with angels. She's a great character for sure. Any character that can make me feel any emotion is, on her it's just active disdain... As for her tragic past yea it was tragic but I mean so was literally every character in the show. Everyone carries baggage, be it shinji and the hedgehogs dilemma, misato and her sexual repression/separation anxieties, reis lack of an actual past, asuka and her mother's psychosis/"suicide" and ritsuko with her inability to live her mother as anything more than a scientist. The difference is how it's carried. Misato bottles it all up then explodes, rei actively figures out what to do and say, shinji works his way through it. What does asuka do? Belligerently represses her feelings, takes it out on others and feels high and mighty about it. Again she is a fantastic character, making me feel strongly is no easy task, but she did it. Misato didn't just see second impact first hand. she saw a father that she felt no real grip on sacrifice his life to keep her alive. this stuck with her, Hard, she carries his necklace everywhere (that cross). Misato was confused immediately after it happened because after all her and her father didn't see eye to eye on many subjects. In fact her relationship with Ryoji Kaji tends to mimic Her father. they're both men absolutely obsessed with work, and love her even though she doesn't realize it. Just like her father Misato loves Ryoji but cant approach him or bridge the gap in the relationship so just like her father she shut him off and was quite belligerent with Ryoji Gendo is one awful father no doubt about it. He is selfish and willing to let the world *Tang* to reach his goals which were to see his wife, the only woman he actually loved, again. He sold out his son to attain his goals only for Yui Ikari to choose her son over gendo. I believe Gendo always new he was a total POS to his kid. He didn't want to get him involved at all which is why cloned yui and filled in the gaps with Lilith's DNA to make rei. He wanted to get his goal without shinji and by the time they called him (shinji) nerv was on its last leg. Unit one wouldn't respond to anyone the current rei was barely alive because of the test chamber and Gendo knew unit one had yuis soul in it, so just like unit 2 the child could pilot the Eva. Gendo doesn't understand people he's a narcissist, manipulator, but ultimately a genius. Who else could have figured all the nonsense out to initiate third impact? Ritsuko? No way she was used as hard as shinji was. There are people that fight for Gendo being a "good guy" story wise but I can't really buy into it. Neglected raising his child, killed without care, showed no feelings save for the one scene at yuis grave, sold out the whole human race and still got what he wanted in the end. *Slow claps* "congratulations!" |
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