Oh, I listen to all kinds! =P Anything ranging from death metal to just plain heavy metal. I'll name off some bands I'm into, I guess~ I like Iron Maiden, Whitesnake, Def Leppard, Vader, Type O Negative, Korn, Judas Priest, Rob Zombie, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, etc. What about you? :D
To be fair, the ending is probably what I liked the least about it as well. When I rewatched the show later, I sort of learned to appreciate it but yeah.
It's sort of like a staple in Gen Urobuchi's works to have unconventional endings and he even talks about it at some point (I think it was in an author's note in the first Fate/Zero book). His logic is basically this: "If your story takes place in a dark and unfair world, then your characters can't receive a happy ending unless the world has somehow stopped being dark and unfair. Otherwise, they don't deserve a happy ending because that would imply that the order of the world doesn't apply to them. If the context makes some things impossible to change then either you don't have a happy ending, or you simply redefine some things so that what was once seen as dark is seen as light instead."
You can sort of see traces of this mindset in all of his works. In Madoka, the ending forces the entire laws of the world to change so that the fate of the magical girl can go from being seen as something dark to being seen as something light. It is the show's way of reconstructing the magical girl genre that they had spent all the time up until then to deconstruct. If the whole show can be seen as a sort of criticism towards the genre, then the ending is where the genre is ultimately defended.
I still sort of think it's anticlimactic but there definitely is a thought and reason for why it is like it is, and that I appreciate. I definitely understand if you didn't like it though. It's my biggest complaint as well.
I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason I think "Madoka" is great is not because of its "depth" (although I do in fact think it IS pretty deep, but for other reasons than the ones you think).
The real reason I like it is mostly because of the structure of the story, and the combination of different art styles that you usually never see together, and the way they contrast with each other. I've been a fan of surrealism for a long time so the art suits me like a glove. Then, there is the fact that it's a 12 episode show and yet it is denser in content than what you'd get from taking 3 random 25 episode shows and mixing them all together.
You are seriously the only person I've ever seen that liked the earlier parts of the show better than the latter ones. Maybe you were expecting it to just be a straight magical girl show? The deceptiveness of the show was one of its biggest selling points but whatever.
You don't have to agree with me or anything. You just seemed to have the wrong impression of why people like it so I just felt like clearing that up. I wrote a review of it some time ago, and although I would have written it alot more differently today (it was my first review and contains way too much hyperbole), the gist of my opinions are there if you are interested.
You said in your review:
"I could be more pessimistic but I don't want to get banned cause I don't know how to describe things without swearing every line."
Go ahead and tell me what you wanted to say. I'm curious and I can take it.
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It's sort of like a staple in Gen Urobuchi's works to have unconventional endings and he even talks about it at some point (I think it was in an author's note in the first Fate/Zero book). His logic is basically this: "If your story takes place in a dark and unfair world, then your characters can't receive a happy ending unless the world has somehow stopped being dark and unfair. Otherwise, they don't deserve a happy ending because that would imply that the order of the world doesn't apply to them. If the context makes some things impossible to change then either you don't have a happy ending, or you simply redefine some things so that what was once seen as dark is seen as light instead."
You can sort of see traces of this mindset in all of his works. In Madoka, the ending forces the entire laws of the world to change so that the fate of the magical girl can go from being seen as something dark to being seen as something light. It is the show's way of reconstructing the magical girl genre that they had spent all the time up until then to deconstruct. If the whole show can be seen as a sort of criticism towards the genre, then the ending is where the genre is ultimately defended.
I still sort of think it's anticlimactic but there definitely is a thought and reason for why it is like it is, and that I appreciate. I definitely understand if you didn't like it though. It's my biggest complaint as well.
The real reason I like it is mostly because of the structure of the story, and the combination of different art styles that you usually never see together, and the way they contrast with each other. I've been a fan of surrealism for a long time so the art suits me like a glove. Then, there is the fact that it's a 12 episode show and yet it is denser in content than what you'd get from taking 3 random 25 episode shows and mixing them all together.
You are seriously the only person I've ever seen that liked the earlier parts of the show better than the latter ones. Maybe you were expecting it to just be a straight magical girl show? The deceptiveness of the show was one of its biggest selling points but whatever.
You don't have to agree with me or anything. You just seemed to have the wrong impression of why people like it so I just felt like clearing that up. I wrote a review of it some time ago, and although I would have written it alot more differently today (it was my first review and contains way too much hyperbole), the gist of my opinions are there if you are interested.
"I could be more pessimistic but I don't want to get banned cause I don't know how to describe things without swearing every line."
Go ahead and tell me what you wanted to say. I'm curious and I can take it.
I think madoka deserves the hype, even though it's just an 8 for me.