JD2411 said: JizzyHitler said: The first one was Americanized (American setting)http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114746/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058461/?ref_=nv_sr_1 The second one was only influenced and isn't a remake The third one wasn't a remake. It was just more popular in the US so sequels were made They aren't trying to recreate a foreign culture in any of them 1: you know what americanizing a movie with different scenes is called? A remake 2: 12 monkeys remade a short film by the name of La Jetee and made it full length 3: Fistfull of dollars is a remake of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yojimbo_(film) all 3 are remakes, and if the departed gets a pass in your book for americanizing something then by the same logic godzilla gets a pass as well cause its doing the same thing. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Does it matter if it's a remake? You said JD2411 said: The US shouldn't make their own versions of foreign media. And that what was done with the Departed. I'm not sure you could even call this Godzilla a remake by your standards. Different setting, characters, probably different plot than the original... |
JD2411 said: JizzyHitler said: 1: No it isn't. A remake is to do something again. If you change the setting, the characters etc it is too different to be considered a remake and is said to be influenced1: you know what americanizing a movie with different scene is called? A remake 2: 12 monkeys remade a short film by the name of La Jetee and made it full length 3: Fistfull of dollars is a remake of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yojimbo_(film) all 3 are remakes, and if the departed gets a pass in your book for americanizing something then by the same logic godzilla gets a pass as well cause its doing the same thing. 1: thats still a remake, It doesnt matter if you change things up or not if your completely reshooting the movie its a fucking remake simple as that. 2: from that link did you not read the part that said "After Universal Studios acquired the rights to remake La Jetée as a full-length film" And whats wrong with Americans remaking a genre of movies they fucking started, kaiju is japanese and so is godzilla but no matter how you look at it they are giant monster movies which started in the 20's with the lost world and more importantly king kong, the japanese remade king kong in japanese a few times so why is it unfair for american to do the same? |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JD2411 said: I'm sorry, but what?JizzyHitler said: Because Japan has a vastly different culture therefore Americans won't be able to transfer that into their own version, assuming they attempt toAnd whats wrong with Americans remaking a genre of movies they fucking started, kaiju is japanese and so is godzilla but no matter how you look at it they are giant monster movies which started in the 20's with the lost world and more importantly king kong, the japanese remade king kong in japanese a few times so why is it unfair for american to do the same? |
l-_-l said: yah im so confusedJD2411 said: I'm sorry, but what?JizzyHitler said: Because Japan has a vastly different culture therefore Americans won't be able to transfer that into their own version, assuming they attempt toAnd whats wrong with Americans remaking a genre of movies they fucking started, kaiju is japanese and so is godzilla but no matter how you look at it they are giant monster movies which started in the 20's with the lost world and more importantly king kong, the japanese remade king kong in japanese a few times so why is it unfair for american to do the same? so let me get this straight Americans make genre Japanese take that genre and remake it disregarding the original culture = ok Americans decide to remake something japanese that they took from americans = THEY CANT DO THAT Where the fuck is the logic, I'm guessing your also ok with the japanese taking mecha from the british and french but if anyone else tries to do so they are wrong |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JD2411 said: l-_-l said: Japanese comedy etc unless they Americanize it to reflect American society it will seem terrible to american audiencesI'm sorry, but what? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1663662/ cause this wasnt a well received movie in the west or anything and this wasnt either, us Americans totally hated this movie cause it wasnt american enough http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0498380/ |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JD2411 said: you wouldnt paint over the mona lisa because it would destroy the original, you wouldnt give a shit if someone repainted the mona lisa from scratch, which is what people have done for over a century and a half, thats this movieJizzyHitler said: Well they shouldn't remake a cult classic and 'americanize' it. It doesn't matter who had the idea first, it's about damaging the image of the original.yah im so confused so let me get this straight Americans make genre Japanese take that genre and remake it disregarding the original culture = ok Americans decide to remake something japanese that they took from americans = THEY CANT DO THAT Where the fuck is the logic, I'm guessing your also ok with the japanese taking mecha from the british and french but if anyone else tries to do so they are wrong You wouldn't let someone paint over the Mona Lisa, so why do this? This isnt destroying the original godzilla movies, this is remaking and coinciding with the original, you can still watch the original movie whenever the fuck you want. the comparison to the mona lisa makes absolutely no sense and if your worried about the integrety of the series, then dont worry about that japan has already fucked that up for decades long before it was even a cult classic in the west |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JD2411 said: hey look who shows up.. its the "EU > USA" guyNoSurrender1690 said: I agree with you. The US version of Red Dwarf is a hideous remake of the British version. another US mess up of a japanese Icon was the hidous 98 movie not enough The US shouldn't make their own versions of foreign media. the points you bring up above are really .. I'll stay polite and say, unfounded. |
KneelBeforeMeDec 10, 2013 2:14 PM
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Sourire said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn3H9ckoCh0 thoughts? Bryan Cranston is in the movie, woo! A friend and I have been talking about this movie since it was first hinted at during production. Hype as fuck, and it looks like a rendition true to form. |
| I'm surprised to find that I didn't hate the trailer. The smoky city desolation, the awesome silhouette and the intense skydive. That being said woulda loved greater Jap presence and I'm worried that their maybe too many characters involved (going by the trailers closing role call). |
| waahh waaaahh waaahhhh godzilla's ruined! Good grief, go back to 1998 for fuck's sake. If anything, this is as close to the original as possible. But oh wait, it's absolute shit because it doesn't take place in Japan, and because the movie is full of white people, therefore I am then able to obviously discern what the plot is going to be about from one trailer, period. Japan bestest nation in da wuurrllldddd! Whito pigu go hoommmee! |
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| the CGI is being done by the guys that did pacific rim's CGI so expect some sick shit |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Wasabi said: you have to take what that kid JD says with a grain of salt.. his points are always unfounded and idiotic.waahh waaaahh waaahhhh godzilla's ruined! Good grief, go back to 1998 for fuck's sake. If anything, this is as close to the original as possible. But oh wait, it's absolute shit because it doesn't take place in Japan, and because the movie is full of white people, therefore I am then able to obviously discern what the plot is going to be about from one trailer, period. Japan bestest nation in da wuurrllldddd! Whito pigu go hoommmee! |
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JD2411 said: JizzyHitler said: Even if you re-paint the picture it will never be as accurate as the original. That's my point. When films are remade they always do certain parts badly etcyou wouldnt paint over the mona lisa because it would destroy the original, you wouldnt give a shit if someone repainted the mona lisa from scratch, which is what people have done for over a century and a half, thats this movie This isnt destroying the original godzilla movies, this is remaking and coinciding with the original, you can still watch the original movie whenever the fuck you want. the comparison to the mona lisa makes absolutely no sense and if your worried about the integrety of the series, then dont worry about that japan has already fucked that up for decades Do you also feel that songs should never be covered or sampled? The idea isn't always to make it exactly like the original, but to bring new ideas or movements to an old one. 2 artists painting the same scene in different styles doesn't inherently make one of them shit. NoSurrender1690 said: Godzilla should never be CG never the the Orgin story of the creture can ot reallly srtike with the us cuase the fact that [ the creture wawas born as repsenation of what Japanese tought would happen to Cold bllooded raditaed cretures [ The us never got hit by an 2 a bombs If the plot takes current affairs into account, Godzilla could attack anywhere in the pacific-- fukushima's radiation. |
EeyoreDec 10, 2013 8:09 PM
| He better be a dinosaur this time instead of an effing mutated iguana and have his atomic breath and not die from mere missiles. |
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NoSurrender1690 said: JizzyHitler said: the CGI is being done by the guys that did pacific rim's CGI so expect some sick shit godzilla should always be a praticall effact or a guy in a suit what he/she said. u know, but a bit more ummm streamlined into english ^^ (no offense dude, really) |
| This trailer tells me they're not going for a high-adrenaline thrill as most summer blockbusters do. It's going to be slow. It's going to be punishing. It's going to be Godzilla. |
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| I don't think I've ever seen Godzilla. Maybe I'll watch this and be one of those, "new fans of an old thing," that everyone seems to get annoyed by. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| the king of the kaiju, the destroyer of all monsters. I will go see this in theatres. Looks dope. I honestly don't care who makes a movie as long as it's good. All the naysayers are entitled to their own opinion, but so am I, and I say fuck yes. |
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YoutubeComments said: I mean, this is awesome and all, but I would've thought it would be better to have a guy in a Godzilla Suit doing sweet dropkicks against Jet Jaguar doing crazy roundhouses and Mothra comes out and shit starts exploding. This guy gets it, I just hope they don't plan to make a sequel of Godzilla vs. |
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| I came. |
JizzyHitler said: the CGI is being done by the guys that did pacific rim's CGI so expect some sick shit hell yeah!!! |
NoSurrender1690 said: j0x said: JizzyHitler said: the CGI is being done by the guys that did pacific rim's CGI so expect some sick shit hell yeah!!! sorry but no i dispase all cgi in live action stuff iv always been more a pratical effacts guy CGI is the future it will improve and progress more to the point that even actors and actresses will all be CGI too |
NoSurrender1690 said: Akito_Kinomoto said: This trailer tells me they're not going for a high-adrenaline thrill as most summer blockbusters do. It's going to be slow. It's going to be punishing. It's going to be Godzilla. nope its npt going to be a real godzilla movie Says you. |
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| I have been waiting for this day for nearly ten years. Welcome back, Godzilla. |
| I watched the trailer earlier today and it looks amazing. It's been a while since I've seen the older ones, but I'm looking forward to this one. |
| The trailer looks amazing, definitely going on my watch list. |
| "Yeah, so I don't appear to be the brightest crayon in the box but I still look down on the rest of the world." -Kurono Kei |
| i'm waiting for hedorah or ghidorah to jump in... that would geek me the fuck out |
| Love the trailer its got style and tone to it, a tone of the scale of destruction and the horror of it. That been said Ive heard so many complainers already across the net saying they are going to boycott the film for not been real godzilla like a dude in a suit......seriously. I find the more time passes the more movie goers become whiners. To the point where nobody will be able to make any movie without it been an insult to something else. Next people will say the west can't make any movies set in other countries because it wouldn't do it right. Godzilla fans seem to think that to make a godzilla movie you have to have a dude in a suit. Theres a reason they had a dude in a suit and it wasn't because of a stylistic choice. Its because thats what they had to work with, same way modern godzilla movies have updated with the times with CGI but nobody complains then because the Japanese only ever make pure gold. I choose to wait till Ive seen a movie to judge it, even then I judge it by its own merits rather than ones set 60 years ago. Film is about change, if most hardcore fans of everything had there way there would be no advancement in film at all and then they would complain because they are basically making the same movies year after year. Now this is only really a point to make with films like godzilla because no amount of technology can replace classic film making and good story writing but in Godzilla's case it never had good writing, no rose tinted glasses it was a simple monster movie about military vs a giant energy breathing lizard destroying shit. There for a Godzilla film isn't hard to do and technology will only help realize it better. Thats the CGI argument nonsense anyway onto the whole The west shouldn't make remakes of eastern movies thing. Treat western made versions as what they are. Adaptions of eastern movies. The Japanese do it all the time with movies from the west, even going as far as splicing out scenes in action movies and replacing them with Japanese, Chinese, Korean actors and nobody throws a bitch about that. If a theater group in japan adapted Shakespeare into their own version people would go see it and think it was cool, now take a western theater group and do the same with an eastern classic and suddenly its uncalled for, racist and a disgrace to the original. Its simple hipster double standards at work. Ive watched some of the Godzilla movies and enjoyed them for what they were but I wouldn't call them masterpieces and im not throwing a fit because I get to see a western big screen adaption of it. Its not replacing it so whats peoples problem with adaptions. Final words I think are judge the film as any other, if its good its good if its a poor film then its a poor film. Personally Id love to see some Mecha Godzilla in there but it would be stupid in this kind of Godzilla film which has a different tone to the rest. As I said its an adaption like Tim burtons Batman and Nolans Batman are two adaptions of the same thing, both good both different. Sorry for the long post its just so many films recently are getting so blasted for just been made, a lot of people work very hard to give people a good movie whilst making something new and having to please the fans and a ton of internet nerd warriors sat at their computer desks in their basements bash a film and its staff to no end like they are industry whores and sell outs for making anything they don't agree with. Which has reached a point where its absolutely any movie ever. |
SpooksDec 11, 2013 8:38 PM
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| make him fight either Ghidorah or mech Godzilla please an Jet Jaguar cameo |
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| destroyah or king ghidorah or mechagodzilla or gigan or rodan or anguirus... godzilla pls |
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| Couldn't be worse than the 1998 film right? |
Von_Struth said: Of course it could.Couldn't be worse than the 1998 film right? |
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zoknimano said: I refuse to believe anything can be that shitty twiceVon_Struth said: Of course it could.Couldn't be worse than the 1998 film right? |
Von_Struth said: zoknimano said: I refuse to believe anything can be that shitty twiceVon_Struth said: Of course it could.Couldn't be worse than the 1998 film right? Well there's no Matthew Broderick in it, so its already better. |
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| If Mechagodzilla or Ghidorah pops up I might just die from excitement. Please don't fuck this one up, Hollywood. |
Kibura_Iburasa said: I'd be quite happy if Roland Emmerich never touches a movie set againVon_Struth said: zoknimano said: I refuse to believe anything can be that shitty twiceVon_Struth said: Of course it could.Couldn't be worse than the 1998 film right? Well there's no Matthew Broderick in it, so its already better. |
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