Puella Magi Madoka Magica
renders said: but aren't you trying to make others see it your way hence the thread and the praise? all you do is praising it instead of giving a proper argument Whats the point arguing over the internet, no matter what points we will come up with for def of the show you will either ignore or dispute constantly. Your mind is already set on hating the show pointless waste of time to convince you otherwise. |
pralan said: renders said: To me the magical girl shows always felt like battle shounens for girls and most of them > madoka Lol, seriously, Lol what's so funny noob? get a superpower,fight the monster of the week,get new powers |
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renders said: pralan said: renders said: To me the magical girl shows always felt like battle shounens for girls and most of them > madoka Lol, seriously, Lol what's so funny noob? get a superpower,fight the monster of the week,get new powers Noob? HAHAHA I can't hahaha, you are funny |
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DateYutaka said: lol so much fanboyism in here while SM is not my fave of the genre its the Best for the industry so over all its the best Opinion and you're one to talk. |
SwiftKilla said: Madoka renders said: Madoka never ripped anything off steins gate, madoka used time travel as a plot device, whereas steins gate, time travel is what the show is all about. So what youre thinking is that if there are two ankles with time travel, let's say they ripped each other off.BatoKusanagi said: Certainly the best out there. renders said: it was too short and i felt like it borrowed stuff from other shows like steins gate,mirai nikki,end of eva ,devilman and other bs i didn't liked madoka That so, let's see: Time travel-- Nope Angels-- Nope Cellphones that predict the future-- Nope BS-- Nope Witches-- Yes. If it borrowed anything from other anime is Hidamari Sketche's char design. Try again. it borrowed the time travel bs twist from steins gate,mirai nikki,znt, and other time travel bs and that bs ending from eva,akira,devilman and others and when i say devilman i mean the manga Ok maybe they didn't looked at steins gate and copied everything but that time travel twist,if you've seen the 3 shows I mentioned then you've seen this freaking twist before |
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| Kyoko is the most badass character. Never quite understood how Homura became a fan favorite though. |
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Akito_Kinomoto said: Sayaka is more badass. Don't know why Homura fan favorite too.Kyoko is the most badass character. Never quite understood how Homura became a fan favorite though. |
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NeoAnkara said: Sayaka was an anoying character and she was the weakest. Homura at least started out interesting even if her backstory was quite weak.Akito_Kinomoto said: Sayaka is more badass. Don't know why Homura fan favorite too.Kyoko is the most badass character. Never quite understood how Homura became a fan favorite though. |
renders said: SwiftKilla said: Madoka renders said: Madoka never ripped anything off steins gate, madoka used time travel as a plot device, whereas steins gate, time travel is what the show is all about. So what youre thinking is that if there are two ankles with time travel, let's say they ripped each other off.BatoKusanagi said: Certainly the best out there. renders said: it was too short and i felt like it borrowed stuff from other shows like steins gate,mirai nikki,end of eva ,devilman and other bs i didn't liked madoka That so, let's see: Time travel-- Nope Angels-- Nope Cellphones that predict the future-- Nope BS-- Nope Witches-- Yes. If it borrowed anything from other anime is Hidamari Sketche's char design. Try again. it borrowed the time travel bs twist from steins gate,mirai nikki,znt, and other time travel bs and that bs ending from eva,akira,devilman and others and when i say devilman i mean the manga Ok maybe they didn't looked at steins gate and copied everything but that time travel twist,if you've seen the 3 shows I mentioned then you've seen this freaking twist before It wasn't a twist in Steins;Gate, they didn't hide the fact they we're planning to use time travel, the anime was about a time traveling microwave from the start and used as a theme from episode 1, unless you count happening in the first episode out of 24 episodes a twist. Madoka hid the fact that it that someone had the ability. No one knew what her ability was til it was shown about half way through. |
Slyr3do0n said: NeoAnkara said: Sayaka was an anoying character and she was the weakest.Akito_Kinomoto said: Sayaka is more badass. Don't know why Homura fan favorite too.Kyoko is the most badass character. Never quite understood how Homura became a fan favorite though. I think you're talking about Madoka. Though I don't hold likability or lack thereof against the characters. |
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renders said: otakuNproud said: renders said: otakuNproud said: renders said: ok then let's put the copying part aside what exactly was so great about this show?:) after ep 4 or 5 when you know happens you kinda get the idea about what kinda show to expect,the length is too short to care about any of the characters,the witches...I don't even,the time travel twist you've seen a 1000x times and the 2.0 end of eva ending so what's so thought provoking about this show? Well, as I said on somebody else's post, I like the way it show the consequences of becoming a magical girl more realistically. I mean, think about it, once you become a magical girl (or a magical anything for that matter) you aren't exactly human anymore. It makes you think about what you are willing to do to have that kind of power. Besides that, I really empathized with some of the characters, especially Madoka and Homura. Those two have got to be the most noble female anime characters I've ever encountered. Yeah I think about it,I've seen this in every magical girl show done better,especially Jeanne...oh Jeanne Well, if you read my starting post, you'd see that I said I liked the soundtrack and the animation too. Basically, to sum it up, I liked it b/c it was angsty, bleak, and hopeful. Also, b/c Homura and Modoka would make a good couple, IMO. And, I would appreciate it if you would stop trying to make me see it your way. but aren't you trying to make others see it your way hence the thread and the praise? all you do is praising it instead of giving a proper argument No, I am not trying to make people see it my way. If I were, I would be arguing with everyone who disagrees with me. All I wanted to know is if there was anyone else who like Madoka more than any other magical girl anime. But, if you want an argument here: The main reason I find Madoka better than other magical girl anime is because it was an anime first and not a manga first. As a result, I didn't have to worry about changes like the ones I noticed when I watched Sailor Stars (the final season of Sailor Moon). The other reason is that I like the idea of a non-cute magical girl series. I think it is a good way to draw in older audiences who like the genre but don't want the kid stuff that is in Sailor Moon and Cardcaptor Sakura. |
Paul said: renders said: To me the magical girl shows always felt like battle shounens for girls and most of them > madoka But guess what? Most magical girl anime these days are aimed at adult men. Most magical girl anime, such as Jewelpet, Lilpri, and the dominance that is Precure are still made with the intention of being watched by young girls. Adult men are a fringe audience, like the "bronies" are to My Little Pony. |
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LimeSlate said: <MajinSaga> All magic girl anime sucks, you weeaboos fail to recognize your stupidity by watching this moe bullshit. Nailed it. |
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Splitter said: Paul said: renders said: To me the magical girl shows always felt like battle shounens for girls and most of them > madoka But guess what? Most magical girl anime these days are aimed at adult men. Most magical girl anime, such as Jewelpet, Lilpri, and the dominance that is Precure are still made with the intention of being watched by young girls. Adult men are a fringe audience, like the "bronies" are to My Little Pony. I dunno about those shows, since I don't care to look up their time slots, but airing near/after midnight is definitely not a show aimed for children. |
Akito_Kinomoto said: Kyoko is the most badass character. Never quite understood how Homura became a fan favorite though. I've heard some people like Homura b/c she was messed up and cold. And I agree, Kyoko is pretty cool; plus she is more messed up than Homura. |
SwiftKilla said: Paul said: Nah the initial idea from episode one is about a microwave turning bananas into gelbanas, but that's just a buildup for time travelrenders said: SwiftKilla said: Madoka renders said: Madoka never ripped anything off steins gate, madoka used time travel as a plot device, whereas steins gate, time travel is what the show is all about. So what youre thinking is that if there are two ankles with time travel, let's say they ripped each other off.BatoKusanagi said: Certainly the best out there. renders said: it was too short and i felt like it borrowed stuff from other shows like steins gate,mirai nikki,end of eva ,devilman and other bs i didn't liked madoka That so, let's see: Time travel-- Nope Angels-- Nope Cellphones that predict the future-- Nope BS-- Nope Witches-- Yes. If it borrowed anything from other anime is Hidamari Sketche's char design. Try again. it borrowed the time travel bs twist from steins gate,mirai nikki,znt, and other time travel bs and that bs ending from eva,akira,devilman and others and when i say devilman i mean the manga Ok maybe they didn't looked at steins gate and copied everything but that time travel twist,if you've seen the 3 shows I mentioned then you've seen this freaking twist before It wasn't a twist in Steins;Gate, they didn't hide the fact they we're planning to use time travel, the anime was about a time traveling microwave from the start and used as a theme from episode 1, unless you count happening in the first episode out of 24 episodes a twist. Madoka hid the fact that it that someone had the ability. No one knew what her ability was til it was shown about half way through. I can't confirm it since it's been out for a while but from what I can remember, the anime was already known to be a anime focusing on time traveling. Steins;Gate that is. |
RLinksoul said: I don't disagree. I started to dislike her more and more after her backstory was revealed. She was so empty and weak willed.Slyr3do0n said: NeoAnkara said: Sayaka was an anoying character and she was the weakest. Homura at least started out interesting even if her backstory was quite weak.Akito_Kinomoto said: Sayaka is more badass. Don't know why Homura fan favorite too.Kyoko is the most badass character. Never quite understood how Homura became a fan favorite though. I see Homura as more of an escapist character, or a symbolic character. People admire her icy demeanor and penchant for explosions and artillery. Others wish they could have a Homura who will dedicate her entire existence to them. The problem is, Madoka is an anime, not a fanfic, so a character who's entire being revolves around his or her association with another character seems really shallow. |
renders said: Ok maybe they didn't looked at steins gate and copied everything but that time travel twist,if you've seen the 3 shows I mentioned then you've seen this freaking twist before I know it's not exactly a brand new thing, but really it's the execution that is the most important. My problem with the halfway point of S;G is that I think Mayuri is a very weak character. She just acts cute and then we get to the halfway point and that is still her only trait. What little development she gets only happens in the second half, which dulls the impact of what is supposed to be the turning point of the show. What makes Madoka's time travel strong is again not the concept, but the execution. |
otakuNproud said: renders said: otakuNproud said: renders said: otakuNproud said: renders said: ok then let's put the copying part aside what exactly was so great about this show?:) after ep 4 or 5 when you know happens you kinda get the idea about what kinda show to expect,the length is too short to care about any of the characters,the witches...I don't even,the time travel twist you've seen a 1000x times and the 2.0 end of eva ending so what's so thought provoking about this show? Well, as I said on somebody else's post, I like the way it show the consequences of becoming a magical girl more realistically. I mean, think about it, once you become a magical girl (or a magical anything for that matter) you aren't exactly human anymore. It makes you think about what you are willing to do to have that kind of power. Besides that, I really empathized with some of the characters, especially Madoka and Homura. Those two have got to be the most noble female anime characters I've ever encountered. Yeah I think about it,I've seen this in every magical girl show done better,especially Jeanne...oh Jeanne Well, if you read my starting post, you'd see that I said I liked the soundtrack and the animation too. Basically, to sum it up, I liked it b/c it was angsty, bleak, and hopeful. Also, b/c Homura and Modoka would make a good couple, IMO. And, I would appreciate it if you would stop trying to make me see it your way. but aren't you trying to make others see it your way hence the thread and the praise? all you do is praising it instead of giving a proper argument No, I am not trying to make people see it my way. If I were, I would be arguing with everyone who disagrees with me. All I wanted to know is if there was anyone else who like Madoka more than any other magical girl anime. But, if you want an argument here: The main reason I find Madoka better than other magical girl anime is because it was an anime first and not a manga first. As a result, I didn't have to worry about changes like the ones I noticed when I watched Sailor Stars (the final season of Sailor Moon). The other reason is that I like the idea of a non-cute magical girl series. I think it is a good way to draw in older audiences who like the genre but don't want the kid stuff that is in Sailor Moon and Cardcaptor Sakura. I respect your opinion about liking more than any other show of the genre but since you made this thread and kinda wanted to make it like a statement I decided to share my point of view...that it's not true xD |
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RLinksoul said: Slyr3do0n said: NeoAnkara said: Sayaka was an anoying character and she was the weakest. Homura at least started out interesting even if her backstory was quite weak.Akito_Kinomoto said: Sayaka is more badass. Don't know why Homura fan favorite too.Kyoko is the most badass character. Never quite understood how Homura became a fan favorite though. I see Homura as more of an escapist character, or a symbolic character. People admire her icy demeanor and penchant for explosions and artillery. Others wish they could have a Homura who will dedicate her entire existence to them. The problem is, Madoka is an anime, not a fanfic, so a character who's entire being revolves around his or her association with another character seems really shallow. I don't expect teenagers burdened with saving the world and knowing they sold their soul to act rationally either. |
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RLinksoul said: The way I see Sayaka is the conflict about her and her ideal and the male character (forgot his name) is just a catalist.Slyr3do0n said: NeoAnkara said: Sayaka was an anoying character and she was the weakest. Homura at least started out interesting even if her backstory was quite weak.Akito_Kinomoto said: Sayaka is more badass. Don't know why Homura fan favorite too.Kyoko is the most badass character. Never quite understood how Homura became a fan favorite though. I see Homura as more of an escapist character, or a symbolic character. People admire her icy demeanor and penchant for explosions and artillery. Others wish they could have a Homura who will dedicate her entire existence to them. The problem is, Madoka is an anime, not a fanfic, so a character who's entire being revolves around his or her association with another character seems really shallow. |
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Paul said: Splitter said: Paul said: renders said: To me the magical girl shows always felt like battle shounens for girls and most of them > madoka But guess what? Most magical girl anime these days are aimed at adult men. Most magical girl anime, such as Jewelpet, Lilpri, and the dominance that is Precure are still made with the intention of being watched by young girls. Adult men are a fringe audience, like the "bronies" are to My Little Pony. I dunno about those shows, since I don't care to look up their time slots, but airing near/after midnight is definitely not a show aimed for children. Those aren't magical girl series in the traditional sense. I'm starting to come to the conclusion that most of MAL doesn't watch or has no interest in traditional magical girl series and would rather watch the otaku-pandering moe adventures that parade themselves as "magical girl". |
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Splitter said: Paul said: Splitter said: Paul said: renders said: To me the magical girl shows always felt like battle shounens for girls and most of them > madoka But guess what? Most magical girl anime these days are aimed at adult men. Most magical girl anime, such as Jewelpet, Lilpri, and the dominance that is Precure are still made with the intention of being watched by young girls. Adult men are a fringe audience, like the "bronies" are to My Little Pony. I dunno about those shows, since I don't care to look up their time slots, but airing near/after midnight is definitely not a show aimed for children. Those aren't magical girl series in the traditional sense. I'm starting to come to the conclusion that most of MAL doesn't watch or has no interest in traditional magical girl series and would rather watch the otaku-pandering moe adventures that parade themselves as "magical girl". I noticed most people on mal don't watch shows that are older than 2006-7 unless they are hyped like bebop or eva |
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Splitter said: Paul said: Splitter said: Paul said: renders said: To me the magical girl shows always felt like battle shounens for girls and most of them > madoka But guess what? Most magical girl anime these days are aimed at adult men. Most magical girl anime, such as Jewelpet, Lilpri, and the dominance that is Precure are still made with the intention of being watched by young girls. Adult men are a fringe audience, like the "bronies" are to My Little Pony. I dunno about those shows, since I don't care to look up their time slots, but airing near/after midnight is definitely not a show aimed for children. Those aren't magical girl series in the traditional sense. I'm starting to come to the conclusion that most of MAL doesn't watch or has no interest in traditional magical girl series and would rather watch the otaku-pandering moe adventures that parade themselves as "magical girl". Traditional sense? |
Slyr3do0n said: RLinksoul said: I don't disagree. I started to dislike her more and more after her backstory was revealed. She was so empty and weak willed.Slyr3do0n said: NeoAnkara said: Sayaka was an anoying character and she was the weakest. Homura at least started out interesting even if her backstory was quite weak.Akito_Kinomoto said: Sayaka is more badass. Don't know why Homura fan favorite too.Kyoko is the most badass character. Never quite understood how Homura became a fan favorite though. I see Homura as more of an escapist character, or a symbolic character. People admire her icy demeanor and penchant for explosions and artillery. Others wish they could have a Homura who will dedicate her entire existence to them. The problem is, Madoka is an anime, not a fanfic, so a character who's entire being revolves around his or her association with another character seems really shallow. My dislike for Homura grew because she was anything but weak-willed. But it got to the point where her selfishness made her disregard everyone else. All of the characters barring Mami were compelling though. |
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LimeSlate said: <MajinSaga> All magic girl anime sucks, you weeaboos fail to recognize your stupidity by watching this moe bullshit. You fail to recognize your own stupidity by wasting sixty seconds of your life commenting on a thread you don't care for. |
Slyr3do0n said: NeoAnkara said: Sayaka was an anoying character and she was the weakest. Homura at least started out interesting even if her backstory was quite weak.Akito_Kinomoto said: Sayaka is more badass. Don't know why Homura fan favorite too.Kyoko is the most badass character. Never quite understood how Homura became a fan favorite though. Whether or not she is annoying is up to the viewer's personal judgement, but she is not a weak character. She has good character development and is multidimensional in her personality. |
Akito_Kinomoto said: My dislike for Homura grew because she was anything but weak-willed. But it got to the point where her selfishness made her disregard everyone else. All of the characters barring Mami were compelling though. Wouldn't it be natural for Homura to be distanced from the people she's trying to save over and over again? The thought of trying to fix the exact same situation can make someone go insane. Mami and others had the luxury of being unaware of the time looping. |
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daedroth4 said: I meant that she was a weak magical girl. As for her personality, she was extremely self-righteous and it got on my nerves but as you said that is a personal opinion.Whether or not she is annoying is up to the viewer's personal judgement, but she is not a weak character. She has good character development and is multidimensional in her personality. |
| oh and i noticed the op barely watched 17 anime so I dunno what to make of that,you remind me of people that barely watched a few shows and go from naruto to death note than go to forums calling it the best anime evar |
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Paul said: Splitter said: Paul said: Splitter said: Paul said: renders said: To me the magical girl shows always felt like battle shounens for girls and most of them > madoka But guess what? Most magical girl anime these days are aimed at adult men. Most magical girl anime, such as Jewelpet, Lilpri, and the dominance that is Precure are still made with the intention of being watched by young girls. Adult men are a fringe audience, like the "bronies" are to My Little Pony. I dunno about those shows, since I don't care to look up their time slots, but airing near/after midnight is definitely not a show aimed for children. Those aren't magical girl series in the traditional sense. I'm starting to come to the conclusion that most of MAL doesn't watch or has no interest in traditional magical girl series and would rather watch the otaku-pandering moe adventures that parade themselves as "magical girl". Traditional sense? Series aimed at young girls, often 51+ episodes that focus on empowering the audience and focusing on the girls' friendships with one another. The girls' powers are treated like a fun secret all of them share amongst each other deepening their bonds over time. I seriously think there needs to be another term other than "magical girl" for shows like Madoka and Nanoha and their like, because while good, they are focused on topics and situations that are not kid-friendly, and often the friendship element is for the purpose of providing cheesecake fodder. |
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LimeSlate said: otakuNproud said: LimeSlate said: <MajinSaga> All magic girl anime sucks, you weeaboos fail to recognize your stupidity by watching this moe bullshit. You fail to recognize your own stupidity by wasting sixty seconds of your life commenting on a thread you don't care for. But... But... That wasn't me though! ;-; That wasn't? In that case, I'm sorry for snapping at you. I like your picture; it's cute. |
Tavor said: Akito_Kinomoto said: My dislike for Homura grew because she was anything but weak-willed. But it got to the point where her selfishness made her disregard everyone else. All of the characters barring Mami were compelling though. Wouldn't it be natural for Homura to be distanced from the people she's trying to save over and over again? The thought of trying to fix the exact same situation can make someone go insane. Mami and others had the luxury of being unaware of the time looping. She was only trying to save Madoka IIRC. When she told Sayaka the only reason she's even concerned about her is because her suffering is hurting Madoka, I was like jeez. |
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Splitter said: Paul said: Splitter said: Paul said: Splitter said: Paul said: renders said: To me the magical girl shows always felt like battle shounens for girls and most of them > madoka But guess what? Most magical girl anime these days are aimed at adult men. Most magical girl anime, such as Jewelpet, Lilpri, and the dominance that is Precure are still made with the intention of being watched by young girls. Adult men are a fringe audience, like the "bronies" are to My Little Pony. I dunno about those shows, since I don't care to look up their time slots, but airing near/after midnight is definitely not a show aimed for children. Those aren't magical girl series in the traditional sense. I'm starting to come to the conclusion that most of MAL doesn't watch or has no interest in traditional magical girl series and would rather watch the otaku-pandering moe adventures that parade themselves as "magical girl". Traditional sense? Series aimed at young girls, often 51+ episodes that focus on empowering the audience and focusing on the girls' friendships with one another. The girls' powers are treated like a fun secret all of them share amongst each other deepening their bonds over time. I seriously think there needs to be another term other than "magical girl" for shows like Madoka and Nanoha and their like, because while good, they are focused on topics and situations that are not kid-friendly, and often the friendship element is for the purpose of providing cheesecake fodder. Sounds like every mahou shoujo I've seen minus the episode count, which doesn't include many titles but does include both Madoka and Nanoha. Except Madoka never had much interactions with strangers so revealing ones secret wasn't much a problem. Also found this. |
Tavor said: The one thing I don't like about Homura is that her entire character revolve around Madoka. Remove Madoka and she is nothing.Akito_Kinomoto said: My dislike for Homura grew because she was anything but weak-willed. But it got to the point where her selfishness made her disregard everyone else. All of the characters barring Mami were compelling though. Wouldn't it be natural for Homura to be distanced from the people she's trying to save over and over again? The thought of trying to fix the exact same situation can make someone go insane. Mami and others had the luxury of being unaware of the time looping. |
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Akito_Kinomoto said: She was only trying to save Madoka IIRC. When she told Sayaka the only reason she's even concerned about her is because her suffering is hurting Madoka, I was like jeez. NeoAnkara said: The one thing I don't like about Homura is that her entire character revolve around Madoka. Remove Madoka and she is nothing. Oh! I didn't even remember that. I understand what you mean by being selfish in that sense then. |
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