| Today, while i was thinkig of action figures and how cd/dvd/bd writers coupled with fast speed connections changed music/anime industry, an idea came to my mind. Most of you should know about 3d printers, they are devices that create solid objects by hardening multiple thin layers of resin. I hought: what if we could print at home our action figures? Here's the answer: A bit more than 10 years ago we had the first "domestic" cd writers, now we have bd's. Maybe in some time there will be sites that host CAD projects of figures for people to download and paint, or maybe even original fan-made ones. I have seen a 3d print of a fully functioning bearing, so even poseable figures with joints can be made. I'm sure i would buy the originals anyway, but maybe i'd try to make new ones for myself. What would you do with a printer like this? Would you make your own figures yourself? Yes this has gone a bit too "what if", but i think that 3d printers are one of the best examples of "tech trinkets" when they are used by amateurs, so instead of letting the thread die i decided to post :) |
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| New tech is ALWAYS horribly expensive. Unless made by Apple, and then it is just expensive because Apple fans are fools easily separated from their money too often. The iPad 2 is not junk, but considering the price...... Why pay 100-200 bucks more for the iPad 2 when the Asus Transformer Prime at 500 is the equal if not superior product? Granted, 500 bucks to read a digital book at a coffee shop is a LOT of coffees you won't be drinking :) It's also a lot of actual books too. Although for actual books, I prefer first run hard cover that usually runs 50 bucks. So 50 into 500 is not a great lot of hard covers. It will be handy to use it to view video. And it will be handy to play some games on it. But it is saying a bit much to state the tablet can give a console or real computer any competition yet for current big hit games like perhaps Battlefield 3. But it is a real stretch saying it is anything but a great add on to the cost of what would normally be called light weight games. If you can't spend 500 bucks, you might be able to spend 200 though. Plenty of adequate 7 inch tablets out there now. The iPad simply doesn't own the field any more, the market is saturated with hand held reader/web viewer/gamer friendly devices now. My Nintendo DSi XL is likely doomed to be given to my son. I have a few great games for it, but, the screen just ain't going to compete. I no longer give a fuck if the adult market ever gets taken seriously by Nintendo. The kids can keep it. Nintendo 3DS, couldn't care less. If a person reeeeeeeally doesn't need it to read books, and likely never needs to use it standing, or in some location where sitting comfortable might be a hassle, then I suppose a lot of persons looking at tablets, likely should be looking at what they call 'netbooks', not to be mistaken for laptops (as some retailers seem to do). Netbooks are tiny sized, yet often more powerful than tablets, are essentially mini laptops and have the keyboard but most importantly, are not yesterday's device and as such, the prices are a lot more approachable. Netbooks likely will die off rapidly though. Not good enough to be laptops, not as handy as touch sensitive tablets. |
| While not technically anime, currently I am a big fan of Hatsune Miku. At least I can go see her in concert. |
| Regarding 3d printers. It's not new actually. I have watched lasers with the aid of a holographic driven image, create solid wood chairs with no effort at all. I have seen computer controlled lasers also essentially 'print' images into solid wood. And the detail is quite considerable too. It is not all that weird to think that the common schmuck in a short while might have access to printers that can generate 3d plastic items. Only thing limiting it, is demand driving the price. |
| While not technically anime, currently I am a big fan of Hatsune Miku. At least I can go see her in concert. |
| If all those other tablets ran iOS, the iPad's true huge advantage, then there'd be place for discussion between all of these... like I said, android is a vary variable OS and depends on its host too heavily. Hardware matters only if you're talking android vs android, not apple vs apple. Due to apple being the only one making their hardware and OS's, they're all nicely rounded and unified between the recent stuff. In things like smartphones and tablets, intuitiveness and ease of use are key. Apple wins there. It's easy to say that they rely heavily on blind fanboys and their hardware is overpriced for no reason, but that's only half true, given that they offer a wonderful platform for developers and users alike, quality made and reliable across the table. Now mac computers... I'm 100% with you there :P |
| On a side note... I'm thinking of writing an extensive (windows) PC care guide for this club, guys. What do you think about it? Is it something that you'd find useful? |
| @xen i would say a good idea would be to write it as a blog on your page, then link it here, on the thread and/ or main page...but would def be useful to those of us (like myself) who needs some help...maybe even a question/answer chat type thing |
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| @billmurderface: nice idea. @xen20: Yes, i'm not good with hardware so i think it would be useful ^^ you could put the link on top of the first page! |
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Sukunai said: If you can't spend 500 bucks, you might be able to spend 200 though. Plenty of adequate 7 inch tablets out there now. If I want to read books, why should I buy a tablet? I'd much prefer a decent sized ebook reader, it's less expensive and has e-ink display. Sukunai said: If a person reeeeeeeally doesn't need it to read books, and likely never needs to use it standing, or in some location where sitting comfortable might be a hassle, then I suppose a lot of persons looking at tablets, likely should be looking at what they call 'netbooks', not to be mistaken for laptops (as some retailers seem to do). Netbooks aren't all that comfortable to use, but I think that if you want a really portable pc they still beat tablets. As for as Appple's portable devices you have to admid that they have the best hardware-software integration. Did you know that apparently Apple has hundreads of hardware engineers while it doens't even produce hardware? Many works on fixes and slight modifications to standard hardware to fine-tune it and improve its synergy with iOS. I'm not willing to spend 500 Euro anyway, but it's an advantage of Apple's products. 3D printers? I'd print myself a house! Joking apart I think 3D printers won't drop in prices very quickly as I don't think there would be great demand among normal people. xen20 said: I'm thinking of writing an extensive (windows) PC care guide for this club, guys. What do you think about it? Is it something that you'd find useful? I don't know, many people could need it, but why should they search for it on MAL? If you use Google you can find most of your questions have already been answered by dedicated communities. |
| yeah thats what i was about to say is that yes apple products are overpriced but they are overpriced for being able to use iOS and iOS applications which are way better then android is at the moment and thats what your paying for not the actual hardware in it. |
xen20 said: On a side note... I'm thinking of writing an extensive (windows) PC care guide for this club, guys. What do you think about it? Is it something that you'd find useful? Wouldn't hurt. But with the release of Ice Cream Sandwich, the Android program becomes more unified and less fractured to some extent invalidating the Apple advantage. The release of Windows 8 might render the need for Android any name pointless too. The second any device at all can run on Windows might be a scary fiction writers dream come true of course. But while it might be fun to have a written article here on basic PC knowledge, it likely would only get buried soon enough. You might get a few back slaps and then forgotten by next month. Just so you know the risks :) Most of the things that happen to electronics, usually happen because the user was simply a lazy turd and didn't realize 'hey if you don't do this, then this usually happens'. How many here know how to format their hardware, and then re install the OS? Do you realize the single most important step after buying something is to send in the warrantee card? Next, you should partition every computer the moment you get it home. Because leaving a computer as just having one large C partition is the same as laughing in the face of fate. Fate reeeeeally hates that by the way. There are right ways and wrong ways to do almost anything where computers and the internet are concerned. I regularly surf porn for the usual reason, and I have never once suffered for it. But then again, I also regularly format re install the OS on my computers, so accumulated 'stuff' from normally ill advised actions doesn't impact me the way it might plenty of others. Do you understand why the various anti virus programs are liked or disliked? When you install browsers, do you seriously look at what you are selecting as yes or no options? We've all heard you don't want to click yes to toolbar crap, but how many here understand the differences in the level of security from their internet access set from outside of their browsers? |
| While not technically anime, currently I am a big fan of Hatsune Miku. At least I can go see her in concert. |
LazYSlackeR said: 3D printers? I'd print myself a house! Joking apart I think 3D printers won't drop in prices very quickly as I don't think there would be great demand among normal people. 3D printers are real already! Take a look at this vid! "How to print a potato" |
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Lumikki said: 3D printers are real already! Take a look at this vid! I know, but the ones present right now aren't big enogh to print a house (hence the CG video). Anyway my point was that while really useful in various industries I can't think of anything normal people would need to print. |
| @Lumikki: looks delicious :3 @LazYSlackeR: good video! Having a flat roof like that would be a problem though. Wait there would be so many problems with a building process like that xD Yes, there aren't practical everyday applications, but it would be a nice addition to any model constructor. It would be another one of those professional things that nobody really needs, but many people would buy it. |
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| @Lazyslacker: It's not a solution to problem X, it's the prevention of said problem to begin with. Plus, this thread caught on nicely, I will link it in here indeed. @Suk: Don't worry there :P I fix PC's for a living, software and hardware. |
| It's not all that hopeless... we're done with big speed jumps for a while now, my Phenom II is gonna hold me over for a nice three years at the least, I'm sure. Clearly, you don't care about PC games with those specs, and no OS has trouble with a Conroe C2D anyway... you're good. |
| If talking modern gaming, CPU, GPU, and RAM. You could do well with a Radeon HD 6670 as a dedicated GPU, a Pentium Dual-Core E6700 CPU, if your motherboard takes the latter (check with Packard Bell I guess), and 2gb more RAM... but looking at the costs of that upgrade, I'd replace the whole system altogether... if you gave me a budget (in $) I could try to conjure something up... DDR2 really holds this thing down. |
| Quad cores have dropped in price a lot since Hexa cores are out and running, those are very cheap and very very strong little things. I myself prefer Nvidia, I would recommend a 460, those things are small little beasts. *nodnod* |
| Truth... a Phenom II 955 BE is hella cheap and hella powerful... cheaper than the dual-core i3 2100, and with intel mobos almost always more expensive than AMD ones, you could save a good deal of money toward other components/anime =P |
| Is that lappy out of necessity or do you simply don't want to build a desktop? It's plenty powerful. About 20% more than mine, and mine is very good to begin with. Laptops, however, are a bad idea for emulators or serious gaming because of non-upgradeable graphics cards and low core frequencies. A serious gamer on the cheap would be far better off with an Athlon II x4 640 at the least and an i5 2400 at the most, coupled with a Radeon HD 6850 or its nvidia competitor, GTX 560 (not Ti ) |
xen20Dec 10, 2011 8:51 AM
| Here are the specs for my computer. Built this about 3 years ago Operating System : MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit CPU : Intel Core i7 920 @ 2.67GHz 50 °C Bloomfield 45nm Technology RAM : 6.00 GB Triple-Channel DDR3 @ 534MHz (8-8-8-20) Motherboard : ASUSTeK Computer INC. P6T SE (LGA1366) 47 °C Graphics: SMS27A550H (1920x1080@60Hz) SMS27A550H (1920x1080@60Hz) ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (ASUStek Computer Inc) 43 °C Hard Drives : 1954GB Western Digital WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 ATA Device (SATA) 21 °C 1954GB Western Digital WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 ATA Device (SATA) 22 °C 977GB Western Digital WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 ATA Device (SATA) 22 °C 161GB Western Digital WDC WD1601ABYS-01C0A0 ATA Device (SATA) 27 °C 1954GB Western Digital WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 ATA Device (SATA) 23 °C Optical Drives : HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH12LS35 ATA Device |
| El Psy Congroo |
| A buddy of mine just dropped 14 hundred on a Dell set up, monitor the whole works. "But I got it on their 60% Dell Days deal' he tells me. It still cost you 14 hundred bucks though buddy. No idea why he needs that much muscle, all he does is play games. Oh well he is also my friend that doesn't mind Bell Canada service. Some people just can't handle saving money. |
| While not technically anime, currently I am a big fan of Hatsune Miku. At least I can go see her in concert. |
Jeigan said: Sukunai said: No idea why he needs that much muscle, all he does is play games. Well, video games are among the most hardware intensive applications, so... For games, you could build the same deal with $700 USD, that's why. Athlon x4 640, Radeon HD 6770, 4gb of RAM, Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 mobo... for games, you are set. Not max settings probably, but you will be close in most of them... and those $700 include the monitor and KB+mouse. But if we're talking video edting, CAD, etc... then you would need something with more of a kick. You could do even cheaper with a socket FM1 based system, but I'm pretty sure that it's a socket thats about to retire soon, while AM3+ still has lots of time ahead of it. @Kruisnek: Badass PC. Is that 920 OC'd? It'd be a pity if it weren't! Also, damn @ all that HDD space =P |
xen20Dec 30, 2011 9:43 AM
Jeigan said: Well, there are some gaming fanatics which love to max out all the settings and brag about super high frame rates :/ And, as a personal opinion...4GB of RAM seems too low for me. If I were to buy a new computer, I would buy one with 8+. First also known as: waste of time and money. Games =/= graphics, and those people see games as the latter. Also, my e-peen never got me a girlfriend, so =P As for the second, that's you dude =P Win7 x64 is a speed demon with 4GB of RAM, and most games have their recommended amount at 2-4 STILL. 4GB more RAM is just $25-$30, by the way. I bought 4 sticks of 2GB for myself right off the bat only because I didn't want any compatibility problems later on. Later, sold them for 2x4GB, for the sake of foresight indeed (who knows, perhaps I'm gonna need more someday, and I need the open slots =P) |
xen20Dec 30, 2011 9:54 AM
| HOHOOOO I just fixed my mom's computer that has been broken over a year or so! I feel like I have surpassed God now, need to find a new aim :P |
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| The problem was that the computer was totally dead. It didn't turn on at all. Well I did it in a Finnish way aka hit it hard, shout "Perkele" and a vot, the computer started to reacting immediately. I remember that my grandpa woke a lawn mover alive in the same way. >:] Now you're taking your words back XD |
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| Well, I got nothing else to say now, but shouting "PERKELE!" seems to be effective Finnish way to solve anything. |
Lumikki said: The problem was that the computer was totally dead. It didn't turn on at all. Well I did it in a Finnish way aka hit it hard, shout "Perkele" and a vot, the computer started to reacting immediately. I remember that my grandpa woke a lawn mover alive in the same way. >:] Now you're taking your words back XD ?borp eht saw tahW !sretupmoc htiw doog ton er'uoy taht yas uoy dna ,loL *cough* Yum, got it! |
| ...but don't do it with smart phones, esp iPhone. Just for fun, I checked this computer's specs Operating System MS Windows XP Professional 32-bit SP3 CPU AMD Athlon Thunderbird 0.18um Technology RAM 512 Mt SDRAM @ 133MHz (3-3-3-6) Motherboard MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD MS-6330 (SLOT 1) Graphics Acer X223W (1280x960@75Hz) 32MB NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200 (Microsoft Corporation) (PROLINK Microsystems) Hard Drives 156GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG SP1604N (PATA) 27 °C Optical Drives LITEON DVD-ROM LTD163 CyberDrv CW038D CD-R/RW Audio Vinyl AC'97 Codec Combo Driver (WDM) So xen, what do you think about that? |
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| What do I think about that? I miss my first PC, a Coppermine Pentium III, heheh. Slot 1! Man, I wish I had one of those to mess around with =P My best friend of those days had a Thunderbird Athlon as well... hell... his PC was so much better than mine and I was jealous as hell. Notice how the temps of that CPU are unannounced? It doesn't have a thermal diode, which is pretty much the reason why AMD had the burning CPU rep. It won't turn off if it overheats... just so you know =P It's pretty impressive that it still works, actually. Well, works after you implemented your magic on it. If anything, you could add a little more RAM to it and it'd be fine until april 2014 (WinXP will be phased out then =/ )... but if it works, don't fix it. By the way, you can do it with smartphones. A Nokia 6680 responds very happily to smacks, heheh. |
| Thanks for you review. So I need to tell my mom to get a new computer before 2014. Well, this computer is 12 years old. I still remember that it cost 900 FIM ( ~ 150 €, god living was cheap back in the those days). The store where I bought it and even the currency doesn't exist anymore. I guess this computer is just an epic win. Tho the screen, keyboard and the mouse has been replaced. Nokia is always Nokia, I bet when the world's end comes in the end of this year all that will be remain are billions of Nokia phones floating in the space. |
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| Yep. No matter what you do, you won't be able to run win7 w/o upgrades to the RAM and Graphics Card. And WXP is too prone to security failure to risk running it outdated. It's a whole another epoch though, that's true... and it's an epic deal for 2000... The store I got my first PC is still kicking though =P And yeah, Nokias are bulletproof. Cockroaches and nokias baby =D |
| That's good to know xen, thanks again! Cockroaches? Yuck, cockroaches are disgusting. You know I broke my first iPhone within 2 weeks. It dropped out from my pocket to the asphalt. I was so drunk that night. The phone broke into a few pieces xD Luckily my insurance company bought me another one. I told them that the phone dropped from a table in my house. LOL. *trollface* Jeigan said: My first PC was an Amstrad PC 1512: http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=183 But it was monochrome. Then I got an Ait...Good ol' AMD K6 and such. Cool, that's what I call as "the computer"! |
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| Yepaa, if you buy one, at least make sure you have a valid insurance! |
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| Haha, they really believed you dropped it from your table? Take care of your new one, I don't think they will do the same again :D Reminds me of dropping my mp3 player several times to the asphalt. It never broke, is still working perfectly. It was really cheap ;D But Apple is not bad in general. I also dropped my MacBook two times and it's still working. Maybe only small things like iPhone or iPod are more fragile. |
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