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Aug 19, 2011 12:31 AM

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Only finished it because I knew it was a short anime and I have much free time. (I was NEET for this year). And because it wasn't boring, it was annoying, it's different, easier to watch something annoying than boring, even if in the end is terrible.
Aug 22, 2011 12:03 PM

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Me.

Be my friend <3

Ahahahahah finally someone who see's beyhond this dumb melodrama.
And an Ef fan too...

Warn me if you break up with junmisugi84.


:D
Aug 22, 2011 12:11 PM

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lol, this thread.

But yeah, this is even more overrated than Madoka and Geass put together.
Aug 22, 2011 2:46 PM

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AnoniMus said:
Is there any female that doesn't like this anime? It's not thinking it isn't as great as people think it is, it's really thinking it's not good.


I don't know what you're saying, but I think it has something to do with you disliking the show, which is weird since this thread is old and you're regularly checking for updates , obsessed much? It's time to move on.

KeiranShikari said:

But yeah, this is even more overrated than Madoka and Geass put together, but that's just my opinion man.


That's better.
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Aug 23, 2011 3:58 AM

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I don't hate it, but I don't love it either, it's a 7/10 for me. Would give it a 8 if only Menma wasn't so annoying.
Aug 24, 2011 1:04 PM

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I loved it alot I just finished it a few minutes ago.Its up there with Clannad/Clannad After Story and Angel Beats when it comes to how emotional I got. xD

Cried during the entire final episode. Dx I only teared up on the a couple of the other ones, but I actually sobbed on this one.
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD"
Aug 24, 2011 1:13 PM
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i dont think its TEH BEST ANIME EVER but it is one of four shows to make me cry so it gets bonus points for that cause even if i didnt know of it i had to of been emotionally attached to cry in it(other 3 were clannad after story, tokyo magnitude, and kanon(2006))
Aug 24, 2011 5:51 PM

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Nere said:
You already have. You're just too retarded to see it yourself.

Here's the first example (and the one that started the "looking at other people's myanimelist" bullshit."

AnoniMus said:
edit: wow 39% compatibility, the lowest I've ever seen (excluding unknown of course). Giving 10 to Blue Exorcist and Beelzebub? lol.


Like I said, you may be too retarded to realize this yourself. Looking at someone's anime list and seeing what they gave ratings is not relevant to the discussion - you basically went out your way to personally attack him on what he rated. Even if it wasn't, given his response it would be.

AnoniMus said:
I've stated dozens of arguments around this forum why Anohana isn't good and why it's cliché and treat the audience like dumb people.


And I'm not about to look through threads for your motherfucking arguments. If you're too lazy to show them, then I won't argue with you. That's that.

ps: I think I'm wasting my time here. Can't argue with tards.


Ain't even going to start here. He just completely fucking owned your ass.
Aug 24, 2011 8:32 PM

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I'm not a girl, but I'll chip in. It wasn't a bad show by any means, and it had lots of great moments throughout. Characters were fairly enjoyable, great artwork and BGM. But some parts of this were just so damn overdone. Especially that ending...ugh. The crying and shouting just didn't work for me. I think the show would've ran smoother if the writers tried to employ some subtlety in their writing, but unfortunately that's not the case. 7/10
Sep 12, 2011 5:48 PM

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Valkyrie-Ryu said:
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It is the worst anime I've watched from the beggining to the end.
Wow uh. Maybe you need to go watch more anime?
Wrong. I need to watch less anime. I'm slightly too much demanding and nowadays I've been watching so many crap it's depressing, just this year I dropped much more than the 3 previously years.
Sep 12, 2011 5:49 PM

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Far too melodramatic for my liking.
Sep 19, 2011 7:09 PM

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Didn't hate it but I certainly don't like it either. I gave it a 7/10 in the end cause I love the OP & ED songs and it did have some decent moments. Other than that it was a very messy anime that couldn't decide if it wanted to be romance, slice of life, or supernatural and then threw drama at your face any chance it could.

Couldn't really relate to any of the characters. (Which I for one find sad being the loss of someone close to you should be something pretty easy to relate to) Menma had no personality besides being everything cute and wonderful personified. Anaru and Tsuruko are both chasing after their penises with envy toward every other vaginas. Then they felt bad about being jealous later and cried their eyes out, oh except Tsuruko she always seemed to not give two fucks about anything.

Anyways this is all just my personal opinions if you liked this anime and found it enjoyable more power to you.

Opp, I am a female btw.
Sep 22, 2011 2:55 PM

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Valkyrie-Ryu said:
AnoniMus said:
Valkyrie-Ryu said:
AnoniMus said:
It is the worst anime I've watched from the beggining to the end.
Wow uh. Maybe you need to go watch more anime?
Wrong. I need to watch less anime. I'm slightly too much demanding and nowadays I've been watching so many crap it's depressing, just this year I dropped much more than the 3 previously years.
No, you're wrong. You're clearly just choosing the wrong stuff to watch if you're dropping so much. >.>; Are you sure you know what you like? Do some self exploration.
I mean, I was totally fine with you saying that you didn't like it and you think it is overrated. But to say it's the worst? Now you're just being naive. Go see what awful is really like before you say it's the worst.
Here, try this one: http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=413
Apparently it's really bad. I haven't seen it though (since the reviews keep saying to keep away from it) so I can't say much about it.

No, you're wrong. It's easily explainable, in the previous years I watched anime that had already ended airing and I chosed those with higher ratings and genres I liked (I avoid Mechas and sports for example). While since the end of 2009 I've been watching new animes and that's harder to choose since there aren't many reviews and there's the chance to watch crap like Dragon Crisis, but because I drop animes like those halfway they don't get the title of worst anime I saw completed.
But even so, with Anohana was different, because it appears to be a good anime, a dramatic mature anime, but it isn't at all! (The first thought it went through my mind in the first minute is that it could be more or less like Welcome to the NHK, unfortunantly it wasn't even close). That's the problem, it's a melodramatic with bad protagonists and shallow characters.
Oct 10, 2011 4:15 PM

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Our tastes in anime don't differ too much if we looked at favourite animes, I see you got FMA and Code Geass R2 (although the latter isn't in the top, it is still highly rated by myself).

I feel that you are being overcritical of certain points - similarly of how a FMA/CG hater can make what is at the very least a palatable anime, sound like it gave them eye cancer..
Oct 10, 2011 9:40 PM

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Girl here and yep hate this show with a passion. Cliche and unbelievable stupid-as-all-hell characters. Only things I enjoyed in it were Yukiatsu and Tsuruko.
Oct 10, 2011 10:06 PM

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lol first time reading this thread and I have to say... the first post was win. But anyways on the serious note, AnoHana was the best Anime of all time! Predictable but executed perfectly. Character development wasn't 100% there but very good for an Anime that only has 11 episodes. Giving it a 1 is just... wrong. O_O
Oct 12, 2011 3:52 PM

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I liked it. Wasn't perfect, but I liked it. I could really relate to missing a dead friend, as well as having a close group of friends all drift apart. It really hit home for me. Calling it the worst anime is, uh...kind of an exaggeration.
Oct 15, 2011 7:46 AM

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Letitbe said:
Our tastes in anime don't differ too much if we looked at favourite animes, I see you got FMA and Code Geass R2 (although the latter isn't in the top, it is still highly rated by myself).
I feel that you are being overcritical of certain points - similarly of how a FMA/CG hater can make what is at the very least a palatable anime, sound like it gave them eye cancer..
Yeah but I can find tons of flaws in FMA and Code Geass myself, but even considering them they are just awesome. Anohana is just plain bad.
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Girl here and yep hate this show with a passion. Cliche and unbelievable stupid-as-all-hell characters. Only things I enjoyed in it were Yukiatsu and Tsuruko.
yeah :D
Those were also the two less bad characters, Yukiatsu was likeable but it was so lame in the end when yukiatsu accepted Jintan as the leader.
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lol first time reading this thread and I have to say... the first post was win. But anyways on the serious note, AnoHana was the best Anime of all time! Predictable but executed perfectly. Character development wasn't 100% there but very good for an Anime that only has 11 episodes. Giving it a 1 is just... wrong. O_O

I changed it to a 3 just to be more fair. But still is one of the worst anime I've ever seen from the beggining to the end.
Jan 1, 2012 1:19 AM

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im not a girl but this is ridiculous since you gave this anime a score of 3?

it seems like you do not have a good grasp of the english language so its not farfetch to say that you do not fully understand this anime that you have watch

and also judging from your list you seem to hate drama anime anyway so talking about this anime's positive side is pointless
Jan 6, 2012 7:03 PM

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im not a girl but this is ridiculous since you gave this anime a score of 3?

it seems like you do not have a good grasp of the english language so its not farfetch to say that you do not fully understand this anime that you have watch

and also judging from your list you seem to hate drama anime anyway so talking about this anime's positive side is pointless

Wait what?
English is not my primary language but I understand it completely.

And where did you get that from my list? I love dramas, they just have to be good and not melodramatic.
Jan 13, 2012 4:29 AM

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err well... i DON'T hate this anime. i mean... it is good and all but i think this anime is way to depressing for me. i'd probably pass this one.
Jan 22, 2012 7:56 PM

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Not more depressing than the end of Code Geass :P (I see you have it on favs).

This is not depressing, it's comic due to its ridiculousness.
Jan 22, 2012 8:03 PM
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I srsly need to watch this show asap.
Jan 22, 2012 8:04 PM

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I didn't hate it, but . . . .

Anohana was one huge disappointment. People were giving it 9's and 10's, and kept recommending it to me, so I was like, hey, why not?

Then I watched it.

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Nice music, and colorful graphics, other than that? Not as mind-blowing as people made it out to be. I was nice and gave it a 7. Then again, even though people are crazy about Clannad + AS on here, it didn't touch my heart. I liked the first season better than the second, although it seems to be the other way around 'round here. Didn't care for Nagisa, or Ushio for that matter.
Mar 18, 2012 11:49 PM
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You gave this anime a 3 and Naruto a 9? Waaaaaaaa? Nothing against Naruto lovers, but waaaaaaah?

Al_Gore said:

I laughed for a solid minute at this.

"It's just...a bad dream! Wake up, wake up...!"
Mar 19, 2012 3:02 AM

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mylovelyfate said:
You gave this anime a 3 and Naruto a 9? Waaaaaaaa? Nothing against Naruto lovers, but waaaaaaah?

Al_Gore said:

I laughed for a solid minute at this.
Not counting the fillers, since I didn't watch them because they were shit.
Mar 20, 2012 9:35 PM

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I thought this was pretty bad at first- I kind of liked some parts- but on the whole it wasn't mind blowing or anything for me
Mar 20, 2012 9:49 PM

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And i find it very dislogical.


Anime is illogical the vast majority of the time.
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@Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian.
Mar 20, 2012 9:52 PM

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On topic though I loved Ano Hana, would probably give it an 8.6-8.8 if decimals places were allowed.
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@Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian.
Mar 25, 2012 2:51 PM

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I'm not a girl.. but I loved it, Everyone has their own tastes so it's not surprising that most anime has a debate on the ratings..

One of your favourites could be a series that I absolutely loathe..
For example you have Awakawa as an 8, I rated that a 1.. it's just the way things are
Mar 28, 2012 7:09 PM
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Well I thought it was great until how the ending seemed rushed. I gave it an 8. Funny, I was watching Hanasaku Iroha during this time and I dropped it because I thought AnoHana was better.
Mar 31, 2012 6:22 PM

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AnoniMus said:
Is there any female that doesn't like this anime? It's not thinking it isn't as great as people think it is, it's really thinking it's not good.


It's not thinking it isn't as great as people think it is, it's really thinking it's not good.
It's not thinking it isn't as great as people think it is, it's really thinking it's not good.
It's not thinking it isn't as great as people think it is, it's really thinking it's not good.It's not thinking it isn't as great as people think it is, it's really thinking it's not good.It's not thinking it isn't as great as people think it is, it's really thinking it's not good.It's not thinking it isn't as great as people think it is, it's really thinking it's not good.It's not thinking it isn't as great as people think it is, it's really thinking it's not good.It's not thinking it isn't as great as people think it is, it's really thinking it's not good.



my mind is full of fuck. what the hell did i just read



I Lol'd. Srsly. XD
Apr 9, 2012 3:43 AM

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I see your Top 5 Favorite Anime list.

Go broaden your taste action boy.
Apr 9, 2012 5:45 PM

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I see your Top 5 Favorite Anime list.

Go broaden your taste action boy.

Monster doesn't have much action, and I don't like code geass because of the action, it's the rest (I even hate mechas).

Plot is much more important than action, if you knew me from other forums you'd know that, I don't blame you of course.
Apr 9, 2012 7:29 PM

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AnoniMus said:

Monster doesn't have much action, and I don't like code geass because of the action, it's the rest (I even hate mechas).

Plot is much more important than action, if you knew me from other forums you'd know that, I don't blame you of course.


Never seen monster but CG and FMA is pretty much in the action genre's are they not? CG is Mech as well but that's not important now.

If you haven't notice I was taking aim at your similar taste in genre's, specifically action originated titles. You said it yourself that Plot is more important then Action, yet titles like CG are pretty much both. CG without action is pretty much Death Note and going by your logic shouldn't titles that are purely plot be in your Top 5?

On the topic of Ano Hi, what's there not to like if your solely into plot? It's simple, elegant, and a brilliant concept for a story. It's nothing experimental. Just another cliche that's been polished and shined. That's enough for for it to register as a great series.

It doesn't really matter what genre or theme now does it; as long as it's done exceptionally well.


FYI - I don't know you actually, nor anyone specific for that matter.
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LordLagann said:
AnoniMus said:

Monster doesn't have much action, and I don't like code geass because of the action, it's the rest (I even hate mechas).

Plot is much more important than action, if you knew me from other forums you'd know that, I don't blame you of course.


Never seen monster but CG and FMA is pretty much in the action genre's are they not? CG is Mech as well but that's not important now.

If you haven't notice I was taking aim at your similar taste in genre's, specifically action originated titles. You said it yourself that Plot is more important then Action, yet titles like CG are pretty much both. CG without action is pretty much Death Note and going by your logic shouldn't titles that are purely plot be in your Top 5?

On the topic of Ano Hi, what's there not to like if your solely into plot? It's simple, elegant, and a brilliant concept for a story. It's nothing experimental. Just another cliche that's been polished and shined. That's enough for for it to register as a great series.

It doesn't really matter what genre or theme now does it; as long as it's done exceptionally well.


FYI - I don't know you actually, nor anyone specific for that matter.


But what's the problem if I like action? I recognize it's not the most important thing, but when the excuse for battles is a good story, then it makes everyting more interesting, it's the case of CG and FMA.
DN is pretty high too, but the quality dropped in the middle, if it was as good as the first 10 episodes, then I would rate it in my top5, even if it didn't have battles...
And it's ilogical to say just because I think plot is more important than action my top5 should be animes with purely plot, that's ridiculous.
And if you haven't seen Monster, you should, since it's one of the bets anime/manga out there.

Anohana has terrible characters and unrealisticaly silly dialogues and scenes.

Yes, Genre doesn't matter if it's done well, but Anohana does not.

Fate Zero and Fate Stay Night a 10? Really?
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AnoniMus said:

But what's the problem if I like action? I recognize it's not the most important thing, but when the excuse for battles is a good story, then it makes everyting more interesting, it's the case of CG and FMA.
DN is pretty high too, but the quality dropped in the middle, if it was as good as the first 10 episodes, then I would rate it in my top5, even if it didn't have battles...
And it's ilogical to say just because I think plot is more important than action my top5 should be animes with purely plot, that's ridiculous.
And if you haven't seen Monster, you should, since it's one of the bets anime/manga out there.

Anohana has terrible characters and unrealisticaly silly dialogues and scenes.

Yes, Genre doesn't matter if it's done well, but Anohana does not.

Fate Zero and Fate Stay Night a 10? Really?




There's nothing with Action, you have misinterpreted what I've said.

Having your favorite genre as Action, or Drama, or Slice of Life is perfectly fine; but when you start to discredit other genre because it doesn't meet your expectations of "good" because of your favorite genre then we have a big problem my friend. Such relative standards just don't carry over universally.
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I think DN carries though pretty smoothly. You must be thinking that it doesn't because of the drastic character shift everyone gets in the second arc. I admit I also prefer when Yagami was the underdog and everyone else was the force against him but that's just wishful thinking.
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It's not that farfetched that your Top 5 should be plot oriented if you prefer plot over action. What I understand now is that your Top 5 is action oriented since most of your Tops leans towards Action more. As for Monster I haven't seen it yet since I just haven't gotten around to watch it, simple as that. Theses things airing now that I prefer to see just because of my personal preference. I'll get to Monster once I'm feeling a bit more despair because it seems like that sort of story.



Now that we're talking about Ano Hi at hand, which I've been dying to do, I don't see any concrete evidence for what your saying.

A series like this there's ALWAYS room for character development considering that the cast is about 8 characters. As a matter of fact I think they did wonderful in that aspect since it's only 11 episodes long. You have to be realistic, what do you expect from 11 episodes? Especially from such a perplexing story. Yes, the premise is simple, even cliche, but the events that occur take up a considerable amount of screen time. Honestly in 11 episodes, they had to let something slide.
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I don't see your problem with the dialogue. Unrealistic? How so? I understand if think it's a bit "silly" if your referring along the lines of being cheesy, but unrealistic? Are they not expressing their emotions sufficiently or something? Their dialogue and interactions seem perfect fine as the character arch types they play, how they interact with other character arch types, and most importantly for the story. Further elaborations is needed from you since I don't entirely understand your conflict with the dialogue.



Honestly, FSN got a 10 out of nostalgia. It was very early in my Otaku days and I found it completely mesmerizing. The characters, the small attention to plot, and the premise was so exciting. In reality though I would of given it an 8/9. After rewatching I see things that could of been done better.
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FZ is a straight up 10 though, not even a debate. I would reevaluate my score to a 9 if you feel uncomfortable about my score but it's still golden. Type_Moon and ufotable are honestly one of the best duos in the Anime Industry. Fate series went from the cell shade style of FSN into a full bloom ufotable legendary animation that's airing now. The story itself is about fives times are more intriguing as FSN and every character is so well polished I'm completely taken by surprise by how well it came out. Rarely does a series actually BEAT the prequel.
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Actually my favourite genre it's drama, so technically I should like Anohana, but it isn't the case.

I'm sick of talking about anohana, I didn't find the dialogue realistic, basically because she was dead so long time ago but they talked about her as it was something recent. The only part where dialogue was good was when it wasn't about Menma as I said on another topic, for example when Anaru was trying to convince Jintan to go to school.
In the end, becuase I hate the melodramatic dialogues and the character it's impossible to find appealing, no matter what happens, even if in the end everybody died I wouldn't care, au contraire, I'd love it because they were annoying.

Fate Zero problem is the dialogue and direction. The ost and artwork are just above average. There's a review which can explain how I feel better than me - http://www.animenewsnetwork.co.uk/review/fate/zero/episodes-1


Of course I don't think it's as bad as he says, It deserves at least an 8 and it could become a 9 depending on the future, but he's right about what he says.
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AnoniMus said:
Actually my favourite genre it's drama, so technically I should like Anohana, but it isn't the case.

I'm sick of talking about anohana, I didn't find the dialogue realistic, basically because she was dead so long time ago but they talked about her as it was something recent. The only part where dialogue was good was when it wasn't about Menma as I said on another topic, for example when Anaru was trying to convince Jintan to go to school.
In the end, becuase I hate the melodramatic dialogues and the character it's impossible to find appealing, no matter what happens, even if in the end everybody died I wouldn't care, au contraire, I'd love it because they were annoying.

Fate Zero problem is the dialogue and direction. The ost and artwork are just above average. There's a review which can explain how I feel better than me - http://www.animenewsnetwork.co.uk/review/fate/zero/episodes-1


Of course I don't think it's as bad as he says, It deserves at least an 8 and it could become a 9 depending on the future, but he's right about what he says.


You may hate it but I just barely arrive at the party so we're doing this one way or another :)

Your concern about Menma is that you have to see it from their perspective. Menma died ten years ago but for them it's seems like it happened yesterday. That's pretty much a huge chunk of the story since they haven't gotten over her death. I also think your a bit wrong since only Jinta, and eventually Poppo, talks to Menma casually; everyone else is still skeptical. Once they accept it though it's pretty obvious that they their standing, from their perspective, haven't changed a bit; their still longing for things as they were in the past.
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As for "melodramatic" again, it's relative. Even if you find it unsatisfying that just means...you find it unsatisfying, not that it's universally unsatisfying. I don't think it's melodramatic at all since this is a traumatic experience that they finally have some closure too. It's been 10 years of this agonizing weight that's finally being lifted, so I think their reactions are not melodramatic at all; especially since this sorta stuff isn't an everyday opportunity.
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In short...relative standards buddy, relative standards :)



I find that "review" comedical to be honest. I disagree with a large majority of what they wrote. Mainly because of the same reason why I disagree with you. The standards that they used to "rate" is just so personal that it doesn't hold much in terms of a universal perspective. I saw that they actually rated the Subs? Like wtflol? I don't really give too much weight in other people's "reviews" anymore because it's just so subjective. There's giving one's opinion then there's passing it as fact, just so wrong.

Quickly addressing two points that you put out, the dialogue in FZ is great since it's the type of story that calls for such specific and detailed conversations; it also helps since FZ is also a stand alone series so somethings have to be made clear as for the people didn't see FSN. As for direction I don't see a problem at all, it's pretty clear cut and never random. Maybe that's just you having trouble following it?
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