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Nov 25, 2010 10:51 PM

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Kirino is an over-exaggerated Tsundere who whines like a spoiled kid.For some reason,i find this to be extremely cute and attractive ultimately leading me to love her in each episodes.
Nov 25, 2010 10:54 PM

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Spoiled as hell. More bad stuff should happen to her or more good stuff should happen to the other characters.
Nov 26, 2010 12:06 AM
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I like tsunderes. Actually I love them.

And you'd have to be blind not to notice she actually IS being nicer and nicer with kyosuke, in a certain way. Maybe she's not being *nice* but you can see how her emotions towards him start showing (like last ep, when she almost said she loved him).
Nov 26, 2010 3:37 AM

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No, tsunderes naturally acts that way, and besides,... she's really cute!!
Nov 26, 2010 11:01 AM

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I think her behaviour was fine earlier on in the series, when I thought that I like her as a character, but I wouldn't irl, but it's been too long without enough change (not denying there is change), and now she's just very annoying. Fortunately, the other characters are good, so she isn't dragging it down too much yet.

Also, the change has only been towards Kyousuke, but she's still exactly the same, because all that's going on is that they're getting closer. She's not actually learning anything and in a sense, not really growing as a person or even as a character.
Nov 27, 2010 6:34 PM

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Hating is so close with loving...

The more person who dislike her right now, I think the more will love her when the studio "turn the table" and show the ace card...

Yeah, I liked her in the beginning and started to dislike her a bit, but I think I will like her again the end.

But it will depend at how the studio play the cards. I hope they play the card right and show the real conflict which they hid every episodes,brilliantly, since the result of this polling shows that many of fans aren't patient to wait to wait that long.
Nov 27, 2010 9:10 PM

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I'm neutral. I admit she can be annoying but she has a reason to act that way plus she is a Tsundere so meh. She is also cute so yeah it balances out. She doesn't irritate me at all really...

I guess you need to know more about Kirino and actually the light novel as well to judge.

Nov 27, 2010 10:15 PM

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Her brother is the only reason why I haven't dropped this show. He deserves his own.
People are strange, when you're a stranger
Dec 4, 2010 3:46 AM
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OMG YES. I HATE HER GUTS but then if she didn't exist there would be no story. But I still hate her.
Dec 4, 2010 6:50 AM
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Kirino is still better than Ayase...the latter needs a serious reality check and stop indulging in self-denial.
Dec 4, 2010 6:52 AM

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Sometimes i like her, sometimes i dislike her.
I like her because i can relate to her.
But i dislike her because i'm not a fan of tsundere characters.
Dec 4, 2010 6:53 AM

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She was ignored all these years by her brother so of course her attitude with him is to be expected
Dec 4, 2010 11:01 PM

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Just finished episode 9, and I must admit that Kirino is a bit irritating to me.
I'm not sure how she'll turn out in the final episodes, but I don't think she's gonna be on the list of favorite Tsundere characters. Kuroneko on the other hand....
Dec 6, 2010 1:14 AM

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Her character development seriously lost its way after the incident with her Father resolved.

At this point, she's just being really selfish and ungrateful; I had hopes that she would have shown developments in her character but at this point it's almost as if we're watching the Kirino's character as it was right from the beginning.
Will I fall in love someday? I wonder?


Dec 6, 2010 1:40 AM
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Kirino is easily one of the worst characters in anime history. It really just boils down to a few things.

Character development. She exhibits practically none. Right from introduction, we know she is a flawed protagonist who has anime obsessions and resentment towards her brother. For unexplainable reasons, she fails to demonstrate any change in attitude towards people around her who impact her life.

Likability. If there was ever a way to make a character deliberately unlikable, Kirino epitomizes this. She does stupidly irrational things, her undesirable behaviors are essentially reinforced by the other characters, and the aforementioned lack of development in spite of the people who impact her life is simply appalling. Especially for a character who is supposed to be the heroine of a slice of life, this is unjustifiable. These are qualities you would consider only for a villain or anti-heroic role, and even then the level of irrationality Kirino's character exhibits is really pushing it for other kinds of roles.

Kirino-phan said:
Honestly, can't you guys see that Kirino is quite pitiful? I mean, most of her life was probably filled with sadness due to Kyousuke ignoring her, this sadness eventually lead to the 2 siblings ignoring each other.

And now that Kyousuke is finally starting to show concern on her, do you really think she let go of what happened in the past few years and become the generic, cute and loving Imouto? Do you think its possible for her to show a huge change of heart when she has been scarred by Kyousuke ignoring her for so long?
Firstoff, why is this even a problem in the first place? The best explanation for Kirino's overall attitude is that Kirino is an overemotional hormonal teenage girl, and even that is hardly a really consistent explanation. There is nothing unusual about having little interaction with certain family members, and that alone isn't a reason for Kirino's extremely irrational resentment. And if she truly had any plans to improve her relationship with her brother in the first place, she definitely wouldn't be nearly as irrational, insensitive, and flat out obstinate.

Oh and, think about it: From barely talking to each other to asking Kyousuke out on a Christmas Date on the pretext of getting materials. How can you not call that an improvement in their relationship?
I don't see a change in the relationship. Episode 7, Kirino asks Kyosuke to get run over by a truck. Really not much different from her attitude towards Kyosuke in episode 1. And totally uncalled for under any circumstances.

And lastly, as of what she said at the end of ep 8, how the next Life Counseling session will be the last one. It could show that Kirino is finally starting to feel bad for Kyousuke standing up for her all the time and yet keeping quiet about it.

IMO, she could've already known what happened during the meeting and was testing Kyousuke to see if he'll speak up or just continue to keep it a secret from her, and judging from the short pause before she said the last line, i assume that she is starting to feel bad and doesn't want to trouble him anymore)
We'll just have to see. All I see in Kirino is a clueless, irrational, PMS afflicted teenage girl who wants to have her cake and eat it too.
A2ZOMGDec 6, 2010 3:03 AM
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If the Light Novel does better than the anime, that's just facts. As you stated, the anime has changed things. Other facts include that Kirino from the anime Ore no Imouto is still one of the worst characters I've seen.

My arguments are strictly in relation to my opinions on how I would potentially rate the anime, especially since this is the anime discussion forum. The Light Novel is completely irrelevant to this discussion.

Rating atm is bordering from 4-5. This isn't the first time I've seen a bad main character ruin a show. Rin from Shuffle! did the same thing, and if I understand Ore no Imouto correctly, Rin is in the same situation as Kirino, where his anime rendition is by far worse than his original rendition (from a Visual Novel in his case).
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Dec 6, 2010 3:09 AM

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Yanathrae said:
She is the reason why I dropped this anime.


Pretty much sums up my answer and the fact the series took a good message and just failed to deliver on executing it properly. I can be honest that for the first few episodes, it didn't particular bother me, but after ep.4, it went downhill and apparently hasn't stopped either. Made the right choice is dumping this waste of time.
Dec 6, 2010 3:23 AM

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i'm neutral .....but ......more to this -----------> " How can I? She IS SO CUTE!!! I want her as my sister!"


A2ZOMG said:
If the Light Novel does better than the anime, that's just facts. As you stated, the anime has changed things. Other facts include that Kirino from the anime Ore no Imouto is still one of the worst characters I've seen.

My arguments are strictly in relation to my opinions on how I would potentially rate the anime, especially since this is the anime discussion forum. The Light Novel is completely irrelevant to this discussion.

Rating atm is bordering from 4-5. This isn't the first time I've seen a bad main character ruin a show. Rin from Shuffle! did the same thing, and if I understand Ore no Imouto correctly, Rin is in the same situation as Kirino, where his anime rendition is by far worse than his original rendition (from a Visual Novel in his case).


bro ....you better watch anime rather than spending your time bashing Kirino ....its not like they will listen to your ranting about kirino being a bitch or something ...and the anime is going to end soon ...so be happy ......
Dec 6, 2010 6:28 AM
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what?
do ppl don't know real bitches sister?, well thanks god my syster is great and loves me :3, but i know guys with popular school sisters.

and they're much worst than Kirino.

come on, most of ppl just hate kirino because is not the tipical "jeje supercutedodeyimoutouprotagonist" who show his love for kyosuke and thats all.

Kirino is a completly great character, A model, a top student, do you know how are most top/popular student?
and there is the fact that, in her world, fighting her love for the eroge with the other self, the model superpopular Kirino, she was alone, no kyousuke supporting her, no brother to show his love and get advice on what to do, do you figure out that if Kirino never dropped the meruru case, and kyosuke never find it, she probably continued alone until dunno what?
she is like this, you can't espect her to be honest and stop acting like a bitch to Kyousuke when he entered his life by that way, and so fast.

Maybe because in the novels she is not that bictchy (the end of the novel 7 is beautifull *runs to his bookshelve, pick novel 7 to read it again*) .... well she is, but still gives more hints on her true feelings, and also in the anime, you just need to put attencion on what kirino say on the first episodes ;)

aniway most hate her because
A: is no the character they espected.
B: they're in love with kyosuke, who is one of the guiltys about Kirino behaviour. (watching it from the "brother" point)

sry my english btw
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Dec 6, 2010 6:36 AM

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Bland tsundere is bland. I don't find her cute, I find her disturbing.
Dec 6, 2010 7:20 AM

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I think this is going well. If she's just your normal imouto-type character, it would be boring.

Also, I think it's building itself up (yes the bitchy attitude) so that they can come back with a good ending. I don't like linear stories myself.

Anyway, I don't know about the light novel so I'm only saying this in my own assumptions.

Dec 6, 2010 8:07 AM

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I only didn't drop the anime cauz of the brother... she's just WAAAAY too bitchy to play the "imouto" character -_- She doesn't have to hit him évery time and well it's just that she's too arrogant... well at least I hope in the end will be nicer than she's been to him till now o.o
Dec 6, 2010 8:44 AM

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I'm picturing Kyousuke will bitch slap her and that'll let her realize how awesome her brother is XD (I hope)

It would be disappointing if it ended with Kyousuke waggling his tail.

Dec 6, 2010 9:17 AM
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Started off liking her, but since her bitchiness and manipulative ways are being exposed, I dislike her a lot now. I wouldn't say I hate her, but she definitely needs a reality check.


i agree, the last episode, where she was going to get her own anime, i was glad that things weren't working out for her. but then things ended up going her way anyways.
i like tsunderes and all, but i think Kirino goes too far. i think she's a bitch.
Dec 6, 2010 9:35 AM

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She was ignored all these years by her brother so of course her attitude with him is to be expected
Really? it looks to me that the brother is the one ignored by her...how he dreamed of his sister waking him up and later on trying to tell her a few things and get ignored seems to me that the brother is the victim here.
Dec 6, 2010 11:16 AM

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I'm fine with Tsundere's mostly, but Kirino is just too much. She doesn't have to kick, slap, what else? to Kyousuke. I just hate her attitude towards Kyousuke.



Dec 6, 2010 11:23 AM

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While I normally like the tsundere archetypes, she's becoming more and more bitchy with each passing episodes and it's slowly pissing me off. Regardless of how their relationship got so bad, Kyousuke does everything he can to please her, but it's never good enough.

Maybe it's her way of showing him she doesn't like how he ignored/mistreated her over the past years (whichever applies), but I think there comes a point where she could at least thank him more for all the stuff he lets her make him go through.
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Dec 6, 2010 11:24 AM

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While I normally like the tsundere archetypes, she's becoming more and more bitchy with each passing episodes and it's slowly pissing me off. Regardless of how their relationship got so bad, Kyousuke does everything he can to please her, but it's never good enough.

Maybe it's her way of showing him she doesn't like how he ignored/mistreated her over the past years (whichever applies), but I think there comes a point where she could at least thank him more for all the stuff he lets her make him go through.
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Dec 6, 2010 11:30 AM

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I'm fine with Tsundere's mostly, but Kirino is just too much. She doesn't have to kick, slap, what else? to Kyousuke. I just hate her attitude towards Kyousuke.



Dec 6, 2010 12:04 PM
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bro ....you better watch anime rather than spending your time bashing Kirino ....its not like they will listen to your ranting about kirino being a bitch or something ...and the anime is going to end soon ...so be happy ......
I don't understand your statement. I'm watching a lot of anime, and keeping a close eye on them. I also take pleasure in participating in heated intelligent discussion.

And you don't know how eager I am to see the end of this show. Especially since it's my policy to not drop shows until 100 episodes or more. I usually watch shows with optimism that any show can turn around from a low point, and I also generally promote reviewing a show after completion.
Dec 6, 2010 12:10 PM

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i liked her at the beginning but her assaults on kyousuke(after helping her again and again) and her attitude is really uncalled for i even started hating ayase cause her attitude is like kirino
Dec 6, 2010 12:23 PM

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Chidashi-sama said:
She is irritating, but she also has a slightly good reason to be.



Yes, you might say I hate her. To me, she's abusive, ungrateful, quite annoying, loud-mouthed, and just plain unlikeable. Still, she can be cute at times - I'll give her that, but mostly, she's irritating. Not the most irritating character I've ever seen, but close.
Dec 7, 2010 1:35 PM

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I find it amusing how people buy the "Oh, you didn't pay attention to me in the past" excuse, when she is really just a vessel of a tsundere that is there because many otakus just like tsunderes and that's it. This excuse appeared in such a strange manner, trying to justify her behaviour, that I could only laugh at the intention of trying to make her "more realistic". If you guys like tsunderes that's another point, but trying to defend that she behaves like that because of such convenient excuse does not make sense. At all.
Dec 8, 2010 7:28 AM

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I have no idea what happened in the past, I haven't read the novel, but I am yet to be irritated by her. Well I do find her non-dereness quite amusing though, it's something I haven't encountered before. That's why I like it and don't get irritated by it. She will show her dere side sooner or later. Most probably later. And I'm willing to wait. In the meantime, I might as well enjoy all her other qualities that y'all fail to see or perhaps don't find attractive and hillarious. Any girl who drools over anime girls is awesome. That's my rule, so GO KIRINO! :3 Kill them stereotypes! Not the typical tsundere-wanna-be, and not your typical anime fangirl. What's not to like? ;) It's just me though.
Dec 8, 2010 7:39 AM
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I dislike aspects of her, I find some aspects annoying, and some cute, But I still like her overall.

@Kirino-Phan - I would like to read the Light Novel, But I don't know if its translated.
Dec 8, 2010 12:12 PM

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I wouldn't have mind if she was a passive tsundere, but instead she is an overly aggressive tsundere taken to the extreme with severe attitude problems. I actually would have preferred if she wasn't tsundere at all.
Dec 10, 2010 2:32 PM

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Well, actually I have the same bond - no, a much worse bond - with my bro. I'm envious that it works out that well with Kirino. But still, I find her a bit pervy... I have watched three seasons of a ecchi anime as well, but honestly, that kid is friggin' hoarding those things. I can see myself a bit in Kirino though. Well, a lot. My bad sides, all put in one character. And some things I don't have (popularity, model career...).

If I'd say I'd hate her, I'd practically say I hated myself. AND I WON'T!!! But I still think she's a grumpy cow.
Dec 10, 2010 4:43 PM

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I sometimes find that Kirino goes too far with the tsun-tsun bashing machine. She's icier than Louise and Taiga together. Then again, her tender moments are lovely.

Iilia said:
Chidashi-sama said:
She is irritating, but she also has a slightly good reason to be.



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Dec 12, 2010 6:58 AM

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No

She irks me at times but generally I don't hate or dislike her.
Dec 12, 2010 7:59 PM

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I don't like Kirino but I don't dislike her either; however, I wouldn't have watched this show if Kirino wasn't in it.
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Dec 12, 2010 10:16 PM
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This new episode just proved to me that she isn't even tsundere.
She's just a complete bitch
Dec 12, 2010 10:27 PM

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I hate her, on the same level I hate Izaya Orihara, Man of Synapse and Ali Al-Saachez, and those three are "villains" in one way or another. Kirino hardly qualifies as such.
Dec 12, 2010 11:25 PM

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I used to like her, but just the way she treats her older brother irks me WAY to much, the guy's basically destroying his own life and social standing for her and she just keeps bitching him out! D:! I want to like Kirino, but I really don't, I don't hate her, but I've found I'm now just watching the anime hoping to god I can see Kyousuke have a happy ending. Just as a last minute addition, Kirino can be pretty god damn cute though >.>

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Dec 12, 2010 11:38 PM

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Bank12 said:
This new episode just proved to me that she isn't even tsundere.
She's just a complete bitch


I don't mean to be rude or disrespectful but how can you not call that a tsundere?! The new episode proved that she is a tsundere no matter how you look at that. Sure she may not be your generic tsundere like Taiga, Shana whoever, she is still a Tsundere.

I'm quite neutral with all of this, I do question her actions at times though (seems to me most people is Kirino haters judging by the polls). I don't spend time watching anime to hate characters with such a "passion". Its more for enjoyment and appreciation ( or otherwise finding some boring or w.e). Really i don't think you know enough to judge Kirino (if you read the light novel you would know) since you're basing your opinions on what you've seen. Don't Judge a Book by It's Cover. You may have seen her for 11 episode to date but do you guys who haven't read the light novel know her enough to judge her? and don't reply yes she a little b**ch who treats her bro with no respect. Please she an anime character for goodness sake.

Dec 13, 2010 6:17 AM

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As for now I'm neutral :D
Dec 13, 2010 8:43 AM

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anime_rulez71 said:

I'm quite neutral with all of this, I do question her actions at times though (seems to me most people is Kirino haters judging by the polls). I don't spend time watching anime to hate characters with such a "passion". Its more for enjoyment and appreciation ( or otherwise finding some boring or w.e). Really i don't think you know enough to judge Kirino (if you read the light novel you would know) since you're basing your opinions on what you've seen. Don't Judge a Book by It's Cover. You may have seen her for 11 episode to date but do you guys who haven't read the light novel know her enough to judge her? and don't reply yes she a little b**ch who treats her bro with no respect. Please she an anime character for goodness sake.

As someone who will never read the LN or the manga, the anime is all I have to go on. Saying "You guys don't know anything about Kirino cause you don't read the LN like I do" just makes you look elitist. It is the only medium in which I can see Kirino in action so I will judge her according to what I see in the anime. And what has the anime shown us so far? 10 episodes of jealousy, spite, disrespect and violence and one episode to reverse all of that all for the sake of tsundere-ness. Did the producers do this on purpose just so they can build up a "climax" for the end? Possible but doing so has cemented her as an overly aggressive person; at least to me she is.

Although I will agree that she is just an anime character and it's nothing to get so overly worked up about. But I will also say that Oreimo does a good job of engaging the viewers to like or hate the characters.
Dec 13, 2010 9:16 AM

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I'm amazed there are people out there that "like" Kirino, the most irritating, unruly, hypocritical, abhorable, ungrateful, hateful, violent, greedy, perverted, lolicon, spiteful demon bitch ever conceived in a work of fiction
Dec 13, 2010 9:25 AM
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what?
do ppl don't know real bitches sister?, well thanks god my syster is great and loves me :3, but i know guys with popular school sisters.

and they're much worst than Kirino.


I second this. It appears many people here have yet to seen REAL bitches.
Apart from that though, i find that its all a matter of accepting ones character. Kirino's attitude is totally understandable. Thats just how she is, she doesnt know any other way to express herself. If you guys dont think that this is acceptable, well its fine too. Frankly speaking however, if you can't accept people as just "like that" then you are severely limiting your perspectives.
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As of 2:09am (GMT+8) Dec. 14, 2010

Options 1&2 (Want/Like) - 84; (31.34%)
Option 3 (Neutral) - 23 (8.58%)
Option 4&5 (dislike sometimes/really hate): 140 (52.24%)
Option 6: 15 (5.6%)
Option 7: 6; (2.24%)

Total votes: 268
Combining the options (1&2 and 4&5) it becomes apparent who is the majority. Even without combining the options choices 4&5 are "leading".
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