| all is fair in love and war? lol |
| Basically. There still differences tho, like for example they spared us the details. I still firmly believe, that their relationship was that of father and daughter. Maybe brother and sister at most. At no point their relationship was presented as romantic one. KyoAni still handled the ending pretty well by making their relationship ambiguous up to interpretation. |
PiromyslJan 26, 4:30 AM
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| Unlike Usagi Drop, Violet Evergarden wasn't the story of a guy raising a girl. The story was about how Violet discovers and learns human emotions and their diversity. She was exposed to different types of interpretation of the word "Love" throughout the story. So the ending was something that Violet chose as the conclusion. There wasn't a sudden shift in the story. That's why I think these two endings are treated differently. But if you feel uncomfortable, I doubt anything can be convincing. |
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| The important difference is that in Violet Evergarden the romantic feelings were obvious from the very first minute of episode 1, anyone who didn't realize where this was going is just dense. After seeing the major alive most people expected or hoped this would happen, so the audience didn't get their expectations betrayed like in the Usagi Drop manga. That's why it doesn't make sense to call it an Usagi Drop, what you are talking about is called Wife Husbandry and I don't see it as bad if it's consensual. |
ZarutakuJan 27, 2:10 AM
This dance is the pinnacle of human achievement. |
Reply to Chronon
Unlike Usagi Drop, Violet Evergarden wasn't the story of a guy raising a girl. The story was about how Violet discovers and learns human emotions and their diversity. She was exposed to different types of interpretation of the word "Love" throughout the story. So the ending was something that Violet chose as the conclusion. There wasn't a sudden shift in the story. That's why I think these two endings are treated differently.
But if you feel uncomfortable, I doubt anything can be convincing.
But if you feel uncomfortable, I doubt anything can be convincing.
| @Chronon I understand this perspective, and I honestly think this was (partially) the direction they were going for. At the same time, I think this was such an awful way to convey the central theme of the story, regardless if you view it as romantic or not. For what is essentiually a sort of coming of age story where Violet experiences the outside world, moving on from her past with the major to experience the beauty of the outside world, it is contradictory to have her go live on island with the major at the end far away from society. You could say that this is her choice, but her choice is entirely made up at the whims of the author. The choice the author made for her does not reflect the central themes of the story regarding the pursuit of growth and emotional independence. This ending only works if Violet has a fear of intimacy and getting to close to others, rather than that of pursuing new life in a post-war world as an autodoll. If you do not understand my point, imagine if I wrote a story like where someone overcomes their shyness and cynicism and befriends others, and I ended it with them biding goodbye to their friends to live alone in the woods. Or imagine a story cautioning against revenge and how it corrupts, where the main character kills their nemesis, where the only difference being their reasoning. The final actions of these character for these themes just does not jive, and I feel this is the main issue with the ending of Violet Evergarden. If you want to make a story about someone finding emotional independence, we should ask for a story where their actions are more akin to that of emotional independence than lack thereof. More often than not, I would argue that said story would entail living in society and taking part in the greater things of the world. If you want to indicate character growth, have your characters change, and choose to do things they would not have done before. In my eyes, Violet is simply doing what she would have done at the start of the story just for a different reason, and to me this is generally cheap and ineffective writing; it can work, but it is difficult to truly do. |
PeripheralVisionJan 26, 8:44 PM
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RealNath said: He raised Violet ever since she's a kid, and at the end, he fell in love with her. Hot take, but as much as I love the animation, music, story (except the ending), etc, I just don't like the ending. It's like a babysitter who fell in love with the person they raised. The author did an usagi drop. It baffles me why people hate the Usagi Drop manga ending, but don't have a problem with this. Is it because it's not emphasized that much, unlike the Usagi manga? Or is there another reason? I also agree that the ending was kind of ruined because of the romantic aspect. If she said that she learned what he was trying say that would be enough, but no, repeat the same old chant at the Climax 😬😮💨🥴. Trying to fix what isn't broken. Otherwise the rest of the story was really good. The main series 👌. The journey of Violet and associating all kind of people as a doll to understand the meaning of 'love' was the one and only good part for me. |
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