ghost_swan said:LOL true
i went into this show not knowing anything about it and wanting so badly to like it based off of the really good ratings so i was honestly a bit bummed out
i found subaru to be one of the most, if not the most infuriating MC’s that i’ve ever seen. even past the point where he begins to grow as a character, i felt like he was very two dimensional and everything revolved around him in a way that completely undermined every other character in the show. the focus on subaru made all other characters feel like secondary side characters. his relationship to emilia especially felt so shallow and forced that i could barely sympathize with his primary motive for all of season 1 and almost ripped my hair out everytime he exploded on a character that was doing the bulk of the work plot wise (emilia, rem, etc).
another main issue i had was (what felt to me) like the complete lack of complexity in the lore. i spent the entirety of season 1 wondering why subaru hadn’t for a second wondered how he got there, or made any sort of reference to the life he had been living up until this point. i know they ***MINOR SPOILER*** spend 1 episode in season 2 talking about subarus life before this, but at that point it felt so out of the blue because we hadn’t heard anything about it for the first 25+ episodes. i don’t feel like there’s been any real focus on the why’s or how’s of his ‘power’, most specifically why events change in the way that they do. these things just made me feel uninterested in the world itself, along with the characters that i craved so much more from.
at the end of the day, the show is probably just not for me, i probably fucked myself over by watching this so soon after inuyasha, where i felt they at the very least addressed early on/continue to mention how she got there, why she got there, and that she’s had a life up until this point, or steins;gate, where the why’s and how’s play such a crucial role in the plot and are really fleshed out and made clear at various points throughout the show
Took me a while to write down a proper reply to this post, I've been busy with university and (re)watched Steins;Gate since. Please note that I'm just writing this on Christmas Eve before going to sleep, I didn't reread and polish up this message like a maniac for weeks.
Anyway, I don't know just how much you've watched of the series, so I'll assume you haven't watched most of season 2, for the sake of simplicity.
First, about Subaru. You probably know this, but he's meant to be flawed. These flaws include his weakness, his laziness, his cowardice, etc. Subaru hates himself, because of these flaws and because he failed to save the people he loves n amount of times. He has a tendency to get overly attached easily, and it's notably why he couldn't hate Rem and Ram during the second arc, and why he started to help Emilia to begin with. It's also why he gets so torn down everytime he seems everyone around him being killed. It's a very heavy failure for him and the explanation behind that reasoning of his is season 2 spoiler territory. Re:Zero fans like Subaru because he's not two dimensional, so this is a strange criticism for me. The love he feels for Emilia and Rem and the rest of the Emilia camp, the fear he has of dying and RbD having a limit, the self hatred he feels when he fails a loop, the joy he feels when he's around his friends, the mask he puts on when he tries to hide his distress, the respect he gains for Emilia in the first few arcs, the loneliness that RbD forces him into, his goal to reach an actual happy ending, the pressure he puts on himself due to his past, etc. These feelings are all so vivid to me that I fail to see how he could be considered two-dimensional, quite the contrary in fact.
"everything revolved around him in a way that completely undermined every other character in the show" I really can't understand this one and won't be able to reply to it.
"his relationship to emilia especially felt so shallow and forced" There's more to their relationship than just Subaru falling head over heels for her just for her looks (that seems to be what you implied). While Subaru finds Emilia extremely attractive, what made in fall in love with her was how she lacked self confidence just like he does despite how selfless she acts throughout the series. She hates herself and thinks it might have been better if she was never born if her mere existence is to cause misfortune upon others. When Emilia saves Subaurf or the first time, he notices just how much she risked just to help others. She literally let a thief get away with her insignia just to help Subaru and did it again to help a lost child. In the following loops when he starts to doubt about Emilia a little (when he realized she lied by telling her name was Satella) he then notices that she still helped the child in every loop (because she has the red flower with her everytime) and this solidifed his feelings about her. For Emilia, Subaru is the first person ever to just overlook her resemblance to the Witch, her race and even calls her beautiful, which is not something she ever hears. Then, she experiences first hand just how much effort Subaru puts in everything he does and can't but wonder why he does so much for her. All that has a ton of value in her eyes. This entire paragraph is just a quick summary of their relationship and their feelings in the first three episodes.
Second, about the lore "complexity". I think most of what you think missed goes in a few categories. Specifically, Re:Zero is a very long series, it has a unique structure, the "lore complexity" is present in many other ways that you didn't mention and you seem to have mixed Subaru's thought process with the world building. The story is planned to span across 11 arcs which probably corresponds to a total of 9 seasons, without counting side stories. The author also has a very precise plan in mind and it is confirmed that many important reveals will be made much later in the story. He you want to know why Subaru did not wonder why he got there, it's because he couldn't find out why he got there. You said he didn't make any reference to his life in Japan but I don't think it was a necessity to bring it up explicitely this early. His actions were motivated by his past in Japan ever since he arrived in Lugnica, and you could argue these actions implied what Subaru lived in Japan.
I don't see how RbD could have been a bigger focus. Subaru could have wondered all he want about it and he wouldn't have gained anything. "most specifically why events change in the way that they do" Re:Zero isn't Steins;Gate. Let me repeat, it ISN'T Steins;Gate. Re:Zero isn't an actual time travel series. There are no time lines here, or world lines, and no butterfly effect that will drastically change a country should a character not eat their loaf of bread up to its last crumb. Instead of that, we know that Subaru can't speak of his power, we know how it affect's Subaru's mental and how the Witch's Miasma grows stronger on Subaru at each subsequent reset. It is heavily implied the Witch gave that power to Subaru. Season 2 explains more of this power and the "why" he got that power is purposely kept secret, probably until the last few arcs of the series. The power of Return by Death has been properly built upon, but it is NOT Steins;Gate. It's different, not necessarily worse or especially shallow.
If you want to know about the "world" more. We have the Witch of Envy, the other witches she devoured, the other half of the world she devoured, the demi human war, the active racism in Lugnica, "Flugel is from Earth", Od Laguna, the blessings, the authorities, etc. etc. etc. All stuff from season 1 that you probably missed most of. Many of these are ongoing mysteries but it doesn't mean they are shallow or uninteresting. We just didn't get all the answers yet.
I do think that you might be able to enjoy Re:Zero, but you probably just approached it with the wrong expectations. I can't say for Inuyasha, but it is very not Steins;Gate, and for the similarities that they do share, I personally prefer Re:Zero's ways. |