Fairy Tail Chapter 484 Discussion

Barion-Zara said:
Dat cover!
Lucy I'll make u an adult :3

Isterio said:

That what´s going on since around the beginning of the series. trolling during series situations, though I didn´t mind that one bit I mean comeone that´s to be ecpected.



Spoiler alert chapter 485-492: August will suck ass guys, this is not a prediction anymore. Last week I could have only predicted the plot , now I can write it for him.

Brandish will try to negotiate, August will refuse because he is loyal to Zeref and yell that. Brandish will remain stubborn. August will brand her a traitor and fataly wound her. (Gonna use present tense now)Natsu who was in charge of handing her out peacefully, goe apeshit .August blocks him and performs some seemingly OP spells that scracthes Natsu. Natsu gets a hit on August. August is surprised that he managed to even scratch him, since he´s scum that´s so much beneath him. Natsu gets a power up through rage and gives friendship speech about how he dares to strike down a comrade (igoring that Brandish seemingly did the same when introduced, but it´s good now because she healed his cancer, she´s a good person). August gives speech about how comradery is bs and you don´t need it if you have power. Natsu gets one clean hit in and oneshots him.
While this happens we get shots of Brandish inbetween, asking Lucy and Wendy tearful why they help someone like her while Wendy is healing her wounds. Lucy responds with some bullshit, Brandish closes her eyes and cries some more (insert flashback picture of her childhood next to her crying). "Briliant writing Hiro, brilliant, that immediately makes her super tragic." Lucy convinces her to join Fairy Tail when the war is over (maybe this happens after the war).Eileen senses how August is down and claims that he wasn´t that special afterall , while we see her unscratched with the 6 "Monsters" lying defeated infront of her.

Cut to Erza who she´s setup to fight her and trust me be prepared for more bullshit.

DlynK said:


I can't wait that this doesn't happen.
Just so you don't write such crap anymore. xD

DlynK said:


I can't wait that this doesn't happen.
Just so you don't write such crap anymore. xD

Chaos_Harbinger said:
Not much discussion is taking place about this chapter, huh.

Chaos_Harbinger said:
Not much discussion is taking place about this chapter, huh.

metsujin said:


Isn't this how it usually happens here? Few discussions, more bashing & trolling.

Chaos_Harbinger said:


Hah, you're right but today it seems even less.


@Darklight0303 maybe but we could talk about mt zonia

Darklight0303 said:


There's nothing really to discuss.

Darklight0303 said:


You mean the same mountain where Gildarts got wrecked by Acnologia?

Chaos_Harbinger said:


Yup. Can't be just a co-incidence.

metsujin said:


Isn't this how it usually happens here? Few discussions, more bashing & trolling.

Isterio said:
First and foremost the Erza Kagura kiss. I enjoy it when something actually comedic comes out of a situation like this, but this clearly was not the case. The intention was to appeal towards the readers Libido. And those who claim that it wasn´t clearly lie to their boners. Apparently those people watch porn for the plot!

Isterio said:
The other issue was Dimaria. I don´t care about this character at all and shoving her into the panels to make her say nothing is pointless. Is this foreshadowing?
Will she get freed? What´s her relationship with Brandish? Am I supposed to be aroused because her close are torn? WHY WAS SHE IN THIS CHAPTER?

Jarjaxle said:
Juvia...she was literally infected by Gray's, Leo's and Ur's Stripping infection! XD

O_O KAGURA!?!? DAAAMN!!! MISUNDERSTANDING START!!! DAMN SHE IS BEST!!! SO CUTE!!!!

Diamaria's Scorn hit her own angle.... and Yep, Hynhe and Julier confirmed it....Eileen is Erza's mom. or relative at east...Prettyy Sure (98%) that she is Erza mom tough.

Damn...O_O Eileen is brinnging the HYPE UP!!! FINALLY 12 are Going to Show us WHY THEY ARE STRONG!!

I honestely say this....I hope...That Gajeel and Co. would actually lost with out being able lift a finger against 3 of the Monstrous 6

AllenNoah said:

Would it blow your mind if I sincerely told you that a) even as an avid yuri fan I didn't get any arousal (mostly due to Kagura's awkwardness diffusing any hint of romance involved, it'd be like getting aroused by the kiss between Naruto and Sasuke), b) I do read porn for the plot and have quit doujins for having shitty stories or characters acting OOC, and 3) even if this was meant to be comedic it didn't even get a chortle out of me?

AllenNoah said:

A final "fuck you" to anyone who expected anything of her. Honestly the entire southern force could've won thet first day if Neinhart got off his ass and DiMaria and Badd actually tried, but they screwed around, missed their chances and paid for it. I have no sympathy for any of those three.

AllenNoah said:

Do we have to go through this dance every time a Spriggan gets spotlight?

Isterio said:
a) No but some people are really thirsty, the whole echi scene is build upon the concept of accidental titgropes banana slips and bumping into each others genitals. Do you consist of the Yuri fanbase? No!
Fifty shades of grey was a piss poor represantation of the BDSM scene, that doesn´t change the fact that countless idiots paid to watch this Movie for it´s kinkiness.

Isterio said:
b) Well isn´t that a lonely opinion, nonetheless respect for bothering with doujin.
If I want story in my porn I watch a video from private. I´m content with the cheating husband and the secretary or the spy agent who has to fuck the villain in order to get his trust.

Isterio said:
c) Neither did I, yet again a perfect example of Mashima failing to immitate Toriyama´s comedic finesse and timing.
Honestly I´m not even hard to impress I lauged at this:

Isterio said:
Well all of the Spriggans sucked, why don´t we see Jacob? Even if she will do something later this chapter adds nothing

Darklight0303 said:


There's nothing really to discuss.

AllenNoah said:
The book or the movie, because having not read the books and only watching the CinemaSins for it, I gotta say, that dude cannot spank. Maybe it's the black in me, but that shit was barely a lovetap. Did they have to do multiple takes and she was too sore? I refuse to believe that was the best they could get.

AllenNoah said:

It's a struggle. You learn to just not bother with some tags after a point. Doesn't help that I have rather...mundane tastes.

AllenNoah said:

Speaking of Toriyama, you watch Super?

AllenNoah said:

It irritated me (Time manipulation is one of my favorite powers and I hate to see it in the hands of idiots). Then again I also like stealth/espionage powers, so Jacob...disappointed me when he pulled that stunt with Lucy.

Isterio said:


Honestly there isn´t much to discuss, it was just more of the same.
I´d given this chapter a 3 for FT standards, but similar to last weeks Charla and Wendy plot there were some things that actively annoyed me in this weeks chapter.

Isterio said:
First and foremost the Erza Kagura kiss. I enjoy it when something actually comedic comes out of a situation like this, but this clearly was not the case. The intention was to appeal towards the readers Libido. And those who claim that it wasn´t clearly lie to their boners. Apparently those people watch porn for the plot!

Isterio said:
The other issue was Dimaria. I don´t care about this character at all and shoving her into the panels to make her say nothing is pointless. Is this foreshadowing?
Will she get freed? What´s her relationship with Brandish? Am I supposed to be aroused because her close are torn? WHY WAS SHE IN THIS CHAPTER?

Isterio said:
Everything else I summed up in my prediction. The one wildcard is Irene.
She gave me heavy Reina vibes this chapter and I won´t make any predictions on her, besides that she´s somehow related to Erza which everyone knows by now.

Isterio said:
On the plus side, it was interesting to see Sting humiliated. Yes you are a bitch!
Also I liked that Jellal kept fighting, instead of being out of comission because he´s exhausted, or what I call the Laxus trolling. A tool Hiro Mashima loves to use in order to put Natsu into the spotlight.

Hey we got Laxus. Nevermind, he´s out! Natsu pull some power up out of your ass! Alternatively it can be used on Gildarts, Mirajane and occasionally even on Erza.

metsujin said:


The kiss... that caught me off guard to be honest, I was a bit shocked, but that could mean Kagura is gay or bi, she is the guild master of a guild full of women so who knows. Or it's just Hiro's troll.

metsujin said:

Maybe he is planning something with her character and Brandish? If not I think he used the old saying "He who laughs last, laughs longest.", he even used that panel were DiMaria made fun of Brandish for getting captured by the enemy, and now she's in her position.

metsujin said:
I agree, those two girls even said she once used to live in Ishgar, maybe she lived with Erza in Rosemary village? I don't want to speculate much, just want to see how he'll handle this, hopefully much better than the Silver thing.

metsujin said:

This brings me to my point, Gajeel's team should not be able to defeat the ones in the North... screw it, they had Minerva, what happened to her? She's not exactly the weakest, and Sting & Rogue aren't exactly fodder either (tho after this battle...). So the enemy must be a lot stronger. Hopefully these 3 in the North, Invel, August and Brandish are what Mashima planned to use (he said his editor wanted 5 or 6 spriggans).

You know it's not really fair to compare Laxus's and Jellal's circumstances... even if you liked or disliked his fight against Wahl, Laxus was still pretty hurt, and while Neinheart (along side Jacob) was one of the weakest (really interesting abilities, but low defence? really? -_-), he still managed to damage the Fairy Tail members. When Jellal faced him, he was in good shape, as for Laxus... not so much, plus Mashima already kept Natsu out of the war for some time, and seems like he's counting something, based on the titles we got from chapter 483 onwards (possibly a E.N.D. countdown).

metsujin said:
I was talking about the overall discussions, with the exception of a few members some don't bother to discuss and participate in debates.

metsujin said:
The kiss... that caught me off guard to be honest, I was a bit shocked, but that could mean Kagura is gay or bi, she is the guild master of a guild full of women so who knows. Or it's just Hiro's troll.

metsujin said:
Maybe he is planning something with her character and Brandish? If not I think he used the old saying "He who laughs last, laughs longest.", he even used that panel were DiMaria made fun of Brandish for getting captured by the enemy, and now she's in her position.

metsujin said:
I agree, those two girls even said she once used to live in Ishgar, maybe she lived with Erza in Rosemary village? I don't want to speculate much, just want to see how he'll handle this, hopefully much better than the Silver thing.

metsujin said:
This brings me to my point, Gajeel's team should not be able to defeat the ones in the North... screw it, they had Minerva, what happened to her? She's not exactly the weakest, and Sting & Rogue aren't exactly fodder either (tho after this battle...). So the enemy must be a lot stronger. Hopefully these 3 in the North, Invel, August and Brandish are what Mashima planned to use (he said his editor wanted 5 or 6 spriggans).

AllenNoah said:
I don't know if I'm supposed to feel bad for DiMaria or see her situation as cathartic, but all I can think about is what a disappointment she turned out to be.

Fai said:
This continues to get worse and worse. Why Mashima, why.

Now the Pervert-Spriggan(the spriggan fodders dont deserve to be remembered by names) is getting Brandished. Kek.

Add to that we have yuri-baiting with Erza, who of course survived without a scratch because She's Erza.

Why does Brandish need to negotiate with Spriggans? Fodders steamrolled half the "unbeatable" army already. That would be feasible plot if the "invasion" felt in any way scary. But at this point Phantom Lord were more threatening than these fodders. Literally don't feel like there's any reason to be scared of them. They have yet to do anything of significance and pale in comparison to the Demon Gates.

There's no weight no consequences to tension to ANYTHING in this arc. Stuff just randomly happens. I mean am I supposed to shit my pants at the mentions of August, who literally almost got fodderized by Acnologia alongside God Serena(god what a disappointment after that build up that was)? Should I be scared of Fanservicey-Milf_Erza_version? Erza is bound to friend-talk her away anyway and she will get jailed again. ANd the rest of the Spriggans are comedic jokes.


Every time I think this manga can't get more trashier, it gets more trashier. To think the same mangaka created both the Rave manga as well as Tartaros arc....Why, Mashima, why?


2/5 for chapter.


Its hilarious that if we remove her name and leave a blank space there, this literally describes EVERY SINGLE VILLAIN this arc.

metsujin said:


To be fair, and most likely I'm biased or whatever, but the bits with Erza, to me at least are more okay, than it was with Gray's dad. We really don't know how Erza got to be a slave, and we learn later that she was in the same town as Kagura, so a little more backstory for her doesn't hurt to be honest, it seems like it's a trend with shonen nowadays.

AllenNoah said:

Well, nothing you can do about that. If they don't wanna debate, they don't wanna.


Kagura's the ace, not the master. Otherwise she'd be unable to participate in the GMG.


I guess. Problem is she's not really worth the extra paneltime.


I didn't mind Silver too much. Honestly I hated the fan theories beforehand (mainly the Future Gray ones. Hell, some people said Eileen was gonna be Future Erza, can you believe that?), but the execution was alright by me. The initial reveal was well done and the final resolution was touching to me. Plus I thought it was funny seeing Gray cry like a One Piece character.

Just to be fair, I'll give my old theory. When Silver first appeared with a hatred of Gray I had theorized that he was Ur's husband, who became broken and jaded after the loss of his both wife and child and joined Tartaros under the promise of being able to fight E.N.D. after he's revived, basically planning to die like a Grey Warden for those who played Dragon Age but being too strong to be killed by a normal demon.


Sting and Rogue have been fodder since Natsu John Cena'd them in the GMG. Their appearance in Tartaros was blatant padding to keep Marde from fighting Erza and Minerva (though I'd argue that Minerva should've stayed to hold off Marde and actually show off what her demonization allowed while giving Mard a chance to display his power/ruthlessness), the fact that they had to bring Jiemma back with a throwaway line about how he's "totally stronger than all the 9DG, guys" only to be downed by the two in base clenched it for me.

Aiyen said:
Mashima is making up crap as he goes at this point.
Pulling Erza's mother/sister out of nowhere. Trying to please Jerza shippers with fan service. Lol wtf happened to this series?

Lucy-is-onemagic said:


agree to this. Prepare to die you self-proclaimed six monsters.

AllenNoah said:

Do we have to go through this dance every time a Spriggan gets spotlight?

renaiyuusha said:

and guess what, only levy who still alive at last

trump54 said:
Where is Minerva and frosh

Jarjaxle said:


and Like I said...I hope that Gajeel and Co. will actually get their Asses handed to them...that would be very nice surprise...and truly show the Hype that these 12 are supposed to show.

Chaos_Harbinger said:


Even if Irene actually proves to be good, that will not redeem the other Spriggans.

blfan said:
So the 6 the chapter title is referring is Gajeel's team, not the Oracion Seis, what a let down, I want them to show up already.

So Kagura kissed Erza, so that was pointness, Hiro just did that for fan service, coming up with new ones for pointless fan service every chapter, give Hiro some credit for that. So we won the south, and speaking of pointless sense what was the point of showing Dimaria captured like that, was that more type of fan service. I don't know how we are suppose to feel seeing some helpless and tearing up like that especially a female character that something you do for a good guy character, not a villain. I guess Fairy Tail treats their prisoners well, but we didn't say anything about Mermaid Hell and Lamia Scale, they are not as nice as Fairy Tail.

So Brandish is going to try to negotiate with August, this sounds like a big mistake, Brandish is just going to be captured by Alvarez and imprisioned as a traitor. I guess that is a way to get her out of the story.

So we see Irene with two of her subordinates, the way I see if she is Erza's mother, I get the idea she was forced to abandon her, I don't think it is like Ur in which she was tricked into giving up Ultear, I be very angry if they did that again, but I think if Erza is her Ultear, than Hynye and Juliet are her Gray and Lyon. Her substitute kids to make up for the lose of her biological kid, only this time the gender if not changed. We don't know nothing about these characters, but I like the idea of Irene have some kind of a motherly relationship with these girls. This also reminds me of something from Rave Master with Relena and her subordinates. I think for sure Hiro is doing another version of that.

I could be a mixture of Relena and Ur with Irene's characters. Here is my theory on Irene and Erza separation, Irene was chased out of Ishgar, she left Erza in the Rosemary village to keep her safe and hide out, what ever noble or royal family the Belserion are, someone wanted them dead or wanted them captured in Ishgar. Could it have been the council, some other noble family, or here is what I am guessing, Brain. In the anime, we find out he was looking for people to be his link for the Oracion Seis, one of the candidates was Ultear, maybe even before that, Erza was one of his candidates.

So we finally get the name of all 12 Spriggen, the final one is Rahkeid and he looks like the grim reaper, can't wait to see him in the flesh.

Pretty an informative chapter, fun for speculation, but not much happened. Next chapter something do with food

TheTruthReview said:





Pretty sure Bradman is the grim reaper looking guy.

frankykun13 said:
monstrous six ..Mirajane ? Yes !! Gajeel ? Yes !! where are 4 more ?? Levy's one sentence make me like her characters better..what with that smug face Lisanna , elfman @.@ especially Lisanna..

frankykun13 said:
monstrous six ..Mirajane ? Yes !! Gajeel ? Yes !! where are 4 more ?? Levy's one sentence make me like her characters better..what with that smug face Lisanna , elfman @.@ especially Lisanna..