Do you guys think that hollywood is really white washing, or do you not care and think that a white person casted onto an ADAPTATION is whatever?
Scarlett Johansson getting the roll of Motoko Kusunagi.
semss-Pack said: idk u got what I mean, or my english really bad when implied or understand it, In simple way, I want to say that the popular thing now is moaningcomplaining. But, yeah look like u are already prepare if somekind of korean backlash happen xD Well, I highly doubt that. Because the people that complain about it probably never keep up their news about South Korea's rise in cultural superpower or are just racist. If there was a backlash, a lot of hallyu/K-pop fans will come in mass number to defend the stars from these backlashes. |
| Hate to bump the topic, but how many of you are reacting to "yellow-washing" of the live-action FMA: Fullmetal Alchemist Manga Gets Live-Action Film in Winter 2017 I mean look at this:  I mean why the hell didn't the producers hired Hollywood actors/actresses to play the characters from FMA when South Korea and China were able to get them??? The people that are calling white-washing over Hollywood film, are you going to make that same complaint about the live-action FMA??? Or is it because Asian supremacy is so much better. |
mdo7May 23, 2016 8:39 PM
| Again with this subject... uffff, can't let it go. I don't care. Actor should be casted for skills in order to portray the character. PC be dammned. Doesn't mean asian actors shouldn't get roles, they should because of their skills. |
mdo7 said: Hate to bump the topic, but how many of you are reacting to "yellow-washing" of the live-action FMA: Fullmetal Alchemist Manga Gets Live-Action Film in Winter 2017 I mean look at this: I mean why the hell didn't the producers hired Hollywood actors/actresses to play the characters from FMA when South Korea and China were able to get them??? The people that are calling white-washing over Hollywood film, are you going to make that same complaint about the live-action FMA??? Or is it because Asian supremacy is so much better. You're missing the point entirely... Whitewashing is considered a problem because Hollywood casts mainly white actors, so non-white actors don't get as many acting opportunities. So when there's an Asian character and they're still giving the role to a white person, people get upset over it. White people already get more roles in Hollywood, so when they cast an Asian actor to portray an originally white character, it's not that big of a deal. |
chizzlezMay 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Blahkabelison said: You're missing the point entirely... Whitewashing is considered a problem because Hollywood casts mainly white actors, so non-white actors don't get as many acting opportunities. So when there's an Asian character and they're still giving the role to a white person, people get upset over it. White people already get more roles in Hollywood, so when they cast an Asian actor to portray an originally white character, it's not that big of a deal. I agree with Hollywood and the problem of whitewashing of Asian characters. However, I can't ignore what Japan has been doing too, this is why I accused critics of Hollywood whitewashing of double standard and hypocrisy and probably Asian supremacy. So that's why I treat Japan's yellow-washing of white character the same way like Hollywood's whitewashing of Asian characters. Also, if you didn't bother reading my other posts. Japan should've been able to get Hollywood actors to play the character when South Korea and China were able to do it for Snowpiercer, and Dragon Blade. So the yellow-washing for Japan's adaptation of Attack on Titan, and Fullmetal Alchemist is really un-justified and no better then Hollywood whitewashing. |
mdo7May 24, 2016 6:37 AM
| Whitewashing isn't a real problem for me, and I don't give a damn about who is starring in it, as long as I can watch good movies. But Scarlett Johansson completely isn't suited for this role, I mean she doesn't look remotely like Motoko Kusunagi. It's like they've chosen her only because she is a popular actresses. |
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| I like to say that I'm disgusted with this double standard when it comes to white-washing, I mean read this article: No white people will star in the ‘Fullmetal Alchemist’ movie, and that’s a beautiful thing This article reek of weeabooism and implied Asian supremacy and the author of this article said he was OK with this type of whitewashing yet attack Hollywood for doing it. |
mdo7 said: u missed it here mdo7. lot of dude hre not even want to care whatever [put the word]-washing implied, as long as the movie itself is doing good or not.I like to say that I'm disgusted with this double standard when it comes to white-washing, I mean read this article: No white people will star in the ‘Fullmetal Alchemist’ movie, and that’s a beautiful thing This article reek of weeabooism and implied Asian supremacy and the author of this article said he was OK with this type of whitewashing yet attack Hollywood for doing it. u better make new thread bout that matter though, if u want to attack that ansian sjw |
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semss-Pack said: mdo7 said: u missed it here mdo7. lot of dude hre not even want to care whatever [put the word]-washing implied, as long as the movie itself is doing good or not.I like to say that I'm disgusted with this double standard when it comes to white-washing, I mean read this article: No white people will star in the ‘Fullmetal Alchemist’ movie, and that’s a beautiful thing This article reek of weeabooism and implied Asian supremacy and the author of this article said he was OK with this type of whitewashing yet attack Hollywood for doing it. u better make new thread bout that matter though, if u want to attack that ansian sjw I'm not going to waste time creating a new thread regarding it. But I really hate the double standard when it comes to whitewashing. You can't just demonize Hollywood Whitewashing yet praise Japan for doing the same. That's like saying people should demonize muslim/Islam for being terrorist yet when a christian a terrorist attack, the same people say Christian aren't terrorist. I mean it just unfair and it spew of racism and implied Asian supremacy. |
mdo7May 27, 2016 6:07 AM
mdo7 said: semss-Pack said: u missed it here mdo7. lot of dude hre not even want to care whatever [put the word]-washing implied, as long as the movie itself is doing good or not. u better make new thread bout that matter though, if u want to attack that ansian sjw I'm not going to waste time creating a new thread regarding it. But I really hate the double standard when it comes to whitewashing. You can't just demonize Hollywood Whitewashing yet praise Japan for doing the same. That's like saying people should demonize muslim/Islam for being terrorist yet when a christian a terrorist attack, the same people say Christian aren't terrorist. I mean it just unfair and it spew of racism and implied Asian supremacy. mdo7 said: who demonized who,i think u're accused me and some ppl here wrongsemss-Pack said: u missed it here mdo7. lot of dude hre not even want to care whatever [put the word]-washing implied, as long as the movie itself is doing good or not. u better make new thread bout that matter though, if u want to attack that ansian sjw I'm not going to waste time creating a new thread regarding it. But I really hate the double standard when it comes to whitewashing. You can't just demonize Hollywood Whitewashing yet praise Japan for doing the same. That's like saying people should demonize muslim/Islam for being terrorist yet when a christian a terrorist attack, the same people say Christian aren't terrorist. I mean it just unfair and it spew of racism and implied Asian supremacy. if u want attack them(the ansian sjw) for what to be called double standard, well if not fr thread then maybe better directly, because look like ur rant did not grab their attention, much |
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| Japanese person "It looks more anime-ish if actors aren't japanese" even they see it. |
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| Hollywood is white-washing. That's unquestionable. They're looking to turn a profit and see this as the most-profitable avenue. That being said, I don't have an issue with a white woman playing the lead of GITS though. I just don't care too much, her character isn't inherently Japanese or anything. That being said, there are other characters that are inherently Japanese. |
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semss-Pack said: who demonized who,i think u're accused me and some ppl here wrong if u want attack them(the ansian sjw) for what to be called double standard, well if not fr thread then maybe better directly, because look like ur rant did not grab their attention, much I already ranted about it on Twitter. I'm not going to waste time creating a thread dedicated on calling out their double standard. |
mdo7 said: well it's up to you, maybe better that waysemss-Pack said: who demonized who,i think u're accused me and some ppl here wrong if u want attack them(the ansian sjw) for what to be called double standard, well if not fr thread then maybe better directly, because look like ur rant did not grab their attention, much I already ranted about it on Twitter. I'm not going to waste time creating a thread dedicated on calling out their double standard. |
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| Scarlett should be cast in every anime adaptation. |
| Yes they are and they can continue to do whatever makes them more money. Let's be real. Casting a white person as one of the lead roles makes sense in a white dominated country. |
The_Nico said: hoopla123 said: Yes they are and they can continue to do whatever makes them more money. Let's be real. Casting a white person as one of the lead roles makes sense in a white dominated country. It's no big deal, this literally is America here, we don't have to push more multiculturalism in our films because there's no use making America more tolerant for the sake of crowd pleasing. But that shouldn't really mean we're a bad/racist country, just means that cultural appropriation is BS. t. Asian ^ 100% agree. People making this such a big deal lmao |
| Sorry for necroing the thread but I didn't want to create a brand new topic. Anyway, people complaining about the white-washing of Asian characters would be glad to know that Steven Spielberg has casted a Japanese bilingual popstar named Win Morisaki in the role of a Japanese character in his movie Ready Player One which comes out in 2018. Not American-Asian, I tell you. An actual Japanese dude, although he was born in Myanmar. |
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sleeplesstown said: I've tried to think of an actress suitable for the role, and the only remotely appealing one I came up with is Brie Larson, whom I've seen in Room and Short Term 12. She's young, attractive and a good actress. ScarJo just ain't the Major. Everyone else that sprang to mind was too old to be a cyborg. Which answers the question. I don't care about the ethnicity of the actor so long as the setting is made appropriate. The blond-haired Eric looks horrible in the FMA movie. |
| I can say that I don't care about the ethnicity of the actor or actress as long as their work delivers and fulfills the standards of credibility these characters need. However, if when looked from the production side this means less job opportunities for certain minorities, it's then when this becomes an issue. The problem of this thread is that it assumes that I either am perfectly fine with the moral and conceptual consequences of white-washing, or I refuse to see the value of every piece of fiction built around or falling into this. I think it is something that needs to be revised and analyzed, and avoided if it is necessary, but I'm not going to enjoy less the film as a spectator just because of that. The specific case of GiTS is one of my lesser concerns on the matter because I never even associated a specific ethnicity to the character of Major Kusanagi and I didn't find its setting and concepts any restrictive for a Western-based approach. |
Rogue_DeWolff said: i don't think it was the sole issue ppl complain about his race, the guy just pure look shit baby face as his selling point and even literally can't act for elric role judge by his previous movie.Ezekiel said: The blond-haired Eric looks horrible in the FMA movie. Doesn't justify the prejudice against Asian actors getting anime roles, least of all calling us "yellow people". It's pure hypocrisy, those people who call out on the FMA movie, because they were probably comfortable with the whitewashing in American movies like Dr. Strange, but suddenly becomes fucking triggered when us Asians do it. there some young jap actor that i believe will lot better than him. |
karambiaNov 21, 2016 12:48 AM
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Rogue_DeWolff said: Ezekiel said: The blond-haired Eric looks horrible in the FMA movie. Doesn't justify the prejudice against Asian actors getting anime roles, least of all calling us "yellow people". It's pure hypocrisy, those people who call out on the FMA movie, because they were probably comfortable with the whitewashing in American movies like Dr. Strange, but suddenly becomes fucking triggered when us Asians do it. Are you serious? People were up in arms about the Ancient One being played by a white woman and not an Asian and honestly, all this complaining happens mainly with western movies, especially Hollywood. In fact, Japan usually don't get nearly as much flak if they portray/change an originally western character with a Japanese actor/actress. |
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Rogue_DeWolff said: His name is Edward Elric and he has blond hair. This Japanese actor is a terrible choice, because it doesn't make sense. But it's expected from the Japanese. Ezekiel said: The blond-haired Eric looks horrible in the FMA movie. Doesn't justify the prejudice against Asian actors getting anime roles, least of all calling us "yellow people". It's pure hypocrisy, those people who call out on the FMA movie, because they were probably comfortable with the whitewashing in American movies like Dr. Strange, but suddenly becomes fucking triggered when us Asians do it. I don't even know what Dr. Strange is. |
EzekielNov 21, 2016 2:01 AM
Ezekiel said: I don't even know what Dr. Strange is. It's the latest entry in the MCU. Came out last week. Quite good too, imo. |
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Ezekiel said: lol, I don't think it need to make sense at japanese level of live adaptationRogue_DeWolff said: His name is Edward Elric and he has blond hair. This Japanese actor is a terrible choice, because it doesn't make sense. But it's expected from the Japanese. Doesn't justify the prejudice against Asian actors getting anime roles, least of all calling us "yellow people". It's pure hypocrisy, those people who call out on the FMA movie, because they were probably comfortable with the whitewashing in American movies like Dr. Strange, but suddenly becomes fucking triggered when us Asians do it. |
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yhunata said: I had to look up (remind myself) what MCU is. I don't like superheroes. Ezekiel said: I don't even know what Dr. Strange is. It's the latest entry in the MCU. Came out last week. Quite good too, imo. I stand by what I said. Any race is fine as long as the adapted setting is appropriate. Rogue, if you wanna see what bad whitewashing is, watch Charlton Heston as a Mexican in Touch of Evil or Mickey Rooney as a Japanese stereotype in Breakfast at Tiffany's. Or Alec Guinness as an Arabian in Lawrence of Arabia. A white actor playing a white version of a character is fine. A Japanese playing a European character with blond hair and a Germanic name is bad. |
EzekielNov 21, 2016 7:38 AM
leNerd said: Agreed. I'm getting cancer just reading all this PC crap.I hate this PC movement so so much. Please stop. Its getting so ridiculous. |
| What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about? |
| Funny because a person were mad when they casted a black actress for Hermione |
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DateYutaka said: both still have bad precisionmost japanese live action are more accurae to there sources than us one are that is fact this one will not be that is act si it a bad adapation cuase of this |
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DateYutaka said: I'm not sure why that matters. Being completely accurate isn't always a good thing, as evidenced by these awful looking Japanese movies. I don't know why you'd want a movie that's made completely redundant by the source. The new Beauty and the Beast looks so pointless.karambia said: lol, I don't think it need to make sense at japanese level of live adaptation most japanese live action are more accurae to there sources than us one are that is fact this one will not be that is act si it a bad adapation cuase of this |
DateYutaka said: it was pointless to be accurate. eventho' it bring money mostly it become unworthy as movie-feature. nope alot of live action adataions in Japan have as excuative consulatnat the oriinal cerator of the piece they are adating hence why there are sucj huge chnages in say the harry potter ot LotR movies o us comic book moves that are [only in name only adpations most of the time never read each of the original sources(read a bit of 20 century tho'), but LoTR is far far better rather than 20th century boys live action. Talk as a "movie" tbh.compare ot 20th centrtu boys were only the ending is diffrent since the ending was not out in manga from yet the final movie the that triolgy was rlsed 4 issues before the final chapter of the manga |
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DateYutaka said: if you think the use of CGI as solely factor as worthy and unworthy in movies then idk how to talk. The use cgi extra could be tricky, if it they could make it more seamesly and well attached in movie the I don't have much prob.karambia said: it was pointless to be accurate. eventho' it bring money mostly it become unworthy as movie-feature. never read the original source, but LoTR is far far better rather than 20th century boys live action as a "movie" tbh. as fabn of the novel most of the chanes buged he fuck out me cause hye were needless ones an di was to CGI hevey too when a chinese tv show can get 10's of thusabds of extars for e battle sceebe like they did in the newest san gou remake and and holly wood movie has ot rely i cgi for t battle sceens like helm deep for exmaple i hink sould have use exrat in make up not CGI things Tactile things are more beliveabke than non tactile thing this is another reason why as a movie 20 cent boys in better of intrysive CGI im sorry that immration braker for me all the CGI I prefer practical but I don't hate the use CGI, some could be interesting like giant blackhole and giant wormhole in interstellar or the like gravity. it depend on how they used it. Ofc it annoyed sometimes and have tend to be less interesting if it flooding with or too relied heavily with CGI LoTR was prime example for very good work of practical and CGI implemented in movie in latest decade imo and there no corelation for poor movie like 20th century boy beat it bcoz of "the use of CGI" Also what is "helm deep" |
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DateYutaka said: oh, u refer on that climax battle at two tower, I totally think that was another adaptation lmao. But it did look good? That 300k tv drama? There corelation with quality? karambia said: if you think the use of CGI as solely factor as worthy and unworthy in movies then idk how to talk. The use cgi extra could be tricky, if it they could make it more seamesly and well attached in movie the I don't have much prob. I prefer practical but I don't hate the use CGI, some could be interesting like giant blackhole and giant wormhole in interstellar or the like gravity. it depend on how they used it. Ofc it annoyed sometimes and have tend to be less interesting if it flooding with or too relied heavily with CGI LoTR was prime example for very good work of practical and CGI implemented in movie in latest decade imo and there no corelation for poor movie like 20th century boy beat it bcoz of "the use of CGI" Also what is "helm deep" helms deep sorry for the typo llook a tv show in china a higher real people to be exrats in battle seccese like exmaple the battle of wuzhang plain in that TV show had full ranks on boths sides not one person CG'ed in tht 300k people a chiese tv shoe did that that incuded 20k people dressed ad niman tribel people but a hollywood movie liek LoTR coudl not get even 1/6 of that in exrats ofr helms deep battle when in fact it was a battle with no dragons or mumakill in it and niman tibel war paint that was used in san gou is not to dismiiler to the make up used for uaku hai in LoTR's I don't see/have problem on that choice in two tower as it went smoothly imo as an epic war. It matter of choice and did they can handle the lot of detail, controlling lot extras, more budget, more time etc. |
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