| I was just going back and watching the Hiruzen vs Orochimaru fight. I still don't get how he managed to defeat Hashirama AND Tobirama. Hashirama seems ridiculously overpowered now. On the other hand, I don't think Minato is everything that he's hyped up to be. Other characters kept talking about him like he's the strongest ninja ever but he wasn't that impressive during the war. |
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| They were weak AF due to being controlled by Oro, unlike in the war where they were completely reinless. And yes, Minato is all that he was hyped up to be; sure he's not the strongest hokage but prior to the war, he was definitely top ten of all time. |
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| Top ten? I don't think so. The only thing he is good at is being fast thanks to teleportation, but for example against technics like susanoo it's not quite useful. |
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Ennetsu said: And teleporting life-wiping justus elsewhere; and summoning mountainous frogs on people; and sage mode; etc.Top ten? I don't think so. The only thing he is good at is being fast thanks to teleportation, but for example against technics like susanoo it's not quite useful. |
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ziggy_Z said: They were weak AF due to being controlled by Oro, unlike in the war where they were completely reinless. And yes, Minato is all that he was hyped up to be; sure he's not the strongest hokage but prior to the war, he was definitely top ten of all time. Yeah, but I think Naruto had already surpassed him or was close to his level by the time Oro brought him back. He also had half of the Kyuubi's chakra so I expected more from him. Idk why but I was a little disappointed lol. |
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| I really don't agree that Naruto surpassed Minato or any other Kage prior to meeting the six sage of path. There was too many characters during that fight for Minato to have a big spotlight but I think he did alright and his jutsu was quite useful. Swither777 said: because of "bad writting" It was explained by Orochimaru, when he brought them back again. They weren't even half as their real strength, because Orochimaru's jutsu at the time was flawed, unlike Kabuto's which was able to edo Tensi people into their full potential. Coupled with the fact that didn't have control of their bodies the first time. |
Last_Waltz said: I really don't agree that Naruto surpassed Minato or any other Kage prior to meeting the six sage of path. There was too many characters during that fight for Minato to have a big spotlight but I think he did alright and his jutsu was quite useful. Well we know that he was way stronger than Tsunade. I think he was stronger than Hiruzen too. I don't think Hiruzen could have defeated Pain. Maybe in his prime but not when he was old. Whether he surpassed the other hokage is debatable. As for the Kage from other villages, there are some really strong and really weak Kage. Some would argue that even Kakashi was Kage level. |
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| I disagree, I think he was just as strong as any of the kage apart from Hashirama. He 100% would have been as strong as them if he possessed all of the fox. |
| Maybe they weren't planned to end up as strong as they were |
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