Fairy Tail Chapter 448 Discussion

Trentor11 said:
Anyone know why Lucy was talking in past tense or was that a mistranslation

Also the misuse of Fairy Law is why Mavis is the way she is

Trentor11 said:
Anyone know why Lucy was talking in past tense or was that a mistranslation

Also the misuse of Fairy Law is why Mavis is the way she is

Darklight0303 said:


It's not the first time she's done that style of narration. Usualy it does NOT bode well

trump54 said:


Wait is zeira Mavis little sister? She died and

Darklight0303 said:


It's not the first time she's done that style of narration. Usualy it does NOT bode well

Trentor11 said:
Anyone know why Lucy was talking in past tense or was that a mistranslation

ichii_1 said:
Maybe Mavis was also cursed by the gods like Zeref and now zeref wants her powers.

CookingPriest said:


Read Fairy Tail Zero.

metsujin said:

metsujin said:

CookingPriest said:


Read Fairy Tail Zero.

ichii_1 said:

ichii_1 said:

trump54 said:
If Mavis called it a xcurse then its a curse

KingAce261 said:


If u talking about her eternal Lolita body then heck no it's the exact opposite. She got fucking eternal youth so she wouldn't age until she died. That's not a curse and if she thought of it like that I wonder how many old people tried to set her straight?

If u r not then u gotta specify bro

Darklight0303 said:


How naive are you? =_=

Isterio said:
Guys I can´t believe that seriously no one thinks about it?


Natsu was brought back to "live" by Zeref. However it seems to be an incomplete form of revival since his live is tied to E.N.D

So I´m assuming now since Mavis talks about a sin, she did the same thing, but suceeded. Rememember when Makarov said how Mavis beat Zeref in the past?

The conclusion is probably that she brought back her best friend back to live.
Something Zeref couldn´t succeed in, but she used a different concept, one that requires love.
That´s why her sin is to be crystalized, it´s nothing powerful just something that Zeref cannot afford to lose.

God Serena is Yuriy who also attempted an imperfect magic and is in the same condition as Mavis, which is why he still looks so young. After his perfomance in the year XX70 he started calling himself Serena.

The reason he sides with Spriggan/Zeref is because he promised him to bring his beloved Mavis back, who may or may not be Makarov´s mom or his best former friend.

metsujin said:


When did Makarov said Mavis beat Zeref in the past? I don't recall that.

Isterio said:
Guys I can´t believe that seriously no one thinks about it?


Natsu was brought back to "live" by Zeref. However it seems to be an incomplete form of revival since his live is tied to E.N.D

So I´m assuming now since Mavis talks about a sin, she did the same thing, but suceeded. Rememember when Makarov said how Mavis beat Zeref in the past?

The conclusion is probably that she brought back her best friend back to live.
Something Zeref couldn´t succeed in, but she used a different concept, one that requires love.
That´s why her sin is to be crystalized, it´s nothing powerful just something that Zeref cannot afford to lose.

God Serena is Yuriy who also attempted an imperfect magic and is in the same condition as Mavis, which is why he still looks so young. After his perfomance in the year XX70 he started calling himself Serena.

The reason he sides with Spriggan/Zeref is because he promised him to bring his beloved Mavis back, who may or may not be Makarov´s mom or his best former friend.

Darklight0303 said:

God Serena is not Yuri. He looks too bloody young while Hades and the tree dude are all old men.

Isterio said:


Yes so does Mavis and we know why she looks the way she does?
What does stop Yuri from performing the same ritual?

What does stop Hiro from pulling the name change card? That day Yuri died and Serena was born ooohoohoohoo, what a twist!

KingAce261 said:


What ritual? Mavis just used Law before she was supposed to and an eternal Lolita non aging body was her side effect

Isterio said:


Was too lazy o spoiler tag so i wrote ritual.
Anyway the reasoning behind her appereance according to zero was.
now that´s a pretty vague term and can define basicly anything. Whose to say that Yuri didn´t try to bring her back after she used Fairy Heart and became a Loli in a crystal failed at it and now callls himself Serena because of his failure (leaving his old life behind).

Crescentgenisi said:
According to mangahelpers: https://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/3001206-Fairy-Tail-449-Spoiler-Thread

Fairy Tail Chapter 449: Mavis and Zeref
- The Guild's Founder Mavis once met Zeref
- Back then, she was taught magic by Zeref to defeat a Dark Guild that ruled Magnolia (referencing Blue Skull from Fairy Tail Zero)
- Mavis used an unfinished magic to defeat the enemy, but thus paid the price in not being able to grow anymore
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- Later on, there were battles between Fairy Tail and Phantom Lord where Mavis took the lives of others as a tactician
- After the great deal of sacrifice, a treaty was signed to stop conflict between guilds
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- During this 'fleeting peace', Mavis was reunited with Zeref
- Mavis losing the ability to grow caused her to be immortal, the same as Zeref's curse (Thats the jist of what is said)
- Zeref: "I do not know the preciousness of life in this world"
- Mavis ran back to the guild to deny something (spoilers were unclear here)
- Yuri is one of the members of the guild, and at this time his child has been born

So looks like because Mavis was cursed to be immortal just like Zeref for using his law magic and maybe she ran away from Zeref because of someting. It also seems Markarov is now born. Unless Markarov had a brother or something.

Darklight0303 said:


So basically no new information and just confirming what we already deduced. Outside of being killed or getting sick, Mavis is completely immortal.

Crescentgenisi said:

Yea that's what I think, a recap of FT0 with some new information to get us to the point where Mavis did something to be trapped in lacrimal. I think the next chapter will actually be the one that explains what specifically happened with fairy heart and one magic.

Some people will whine about this chapter but it's understandable to make sure everyone (in the story and us who read the story) are up to speed on the origins of fairy tail.

Isterio said:


There is absolutely no reason to complain about a FT zero recap, not every FT reader will/have read zero, also the preview hints that alot of hinted things within zero will get clarified. Like the phantom lord part.

Crescentgenisi said:
According to mangahelpers: https://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/3001206-Fairy-Tail-449-Spoiler-Thread

Fairy Tail Chapter 449: Mavis and Zeref
- The Guild's Founder Mavis once met Zeref
- Back then, she was taught magic by Zeref to defeat a Dark Guild that ruled Magnolia (referencing Blue Skull from Fairy Tail Zero)
- Mavis used an unfinished magic to defeat the enemy, but thus paid the price in not being able to grow anymore
_____________________________________________
- Later on, there were battles between Fairy Tail and Phantom Lord where Mavis took the lives of others as a tactician
- After the great deal of sacrifice, a treaty was signed to stop conflict between guilds
_____________________________________________
- During this 'fleeting peace', Mavis was reunited with Zeref
- Mavis losing the ability to grow caused her to be immortal, the same as Zeref's curse (Thats the jist of what is said)
- Zeref: "I do not know the preciousness of life in this world"
- Mavis ran back to the guild to deny something (spoilers were unclear here)
- Yuri is one of the members of the guild, and at this time his child has been born

So looks like because Mavis was cursed to be immortal just like Zeref for using his law magic and maybe she ran away from Zeref because of someting. It also seems Markarov is now born. Unless Markarov had a brother or something.

KingAce261 said:


I agree. This is like all the shit I read on DB super comments. People mad about the first episodes being a recap of movies but it would make no sense if they skipped them and not everyone in jap has paid money to see the movies but the show airs for free on TV and also people later watching will be lost since they would have to outsource to know what's going on.

Oh yeah also crescent for your posts earlier I'd put a spoiler warning thing since it technically is a spoiler

NovaSky said:
If the spoilers for 449 are true i think the anime will adapt Zero story when it will get to that point as a flashback also giving manga time to get ahead of the anime.

Crescentgenisi said:


Thanks Ace! I spoiled the spoilers. You were talking about the 449, right?

@ Ace and Isterio
When I was looking for the spoilers this morning I saw the complaints and it really annoyed me that the fandom was throwing a temper tantrum when Hiro is perfectly right to set up this Mavis story with stuff we already know. I mean I understand where they are coming from but everyone needs to be caught up to speed on the origins. Only sad thing for me is that this may mean that FT0 may not get adapted as filler into the anime.

KingAce261 said:


Yeah and I know how you feel. These selfish jerks need to realize that not everyone may have read FT0 plus this is made in Japan where it costs money so people could have skipped 0 to save. Also this is target toward everyone not the few that read 0 so they gotta stop getting pissed. It's the same about DB super and how it included a better adaption of DBZ BOG

KingAce261 said:

Yeah and I know how you feel. These selfish jerks need to realize that not everyone may have read FT0 plus this is made in Japan where it costs money so people could have skipped 0 to save. Also this is target toward everyone not the few that read 0 so they gotta stop getting pissed. It's the same about DB super and how it included a better adaption of DBZ BOG

ziggy_Z said:
LOLWUT? The re-adaption of BoG in DBS is not better than the original movie, the only thing good about the new adaption are the extra scenes they've added, barring that DBS is <<<< compared to BoG.

KingAce261 said:


Imo it is. The scenes are more detailed cuz this isn't a movie with time limited to an hour and 30 minuetes. Like goku vs beerus (non god) it just skipped to him ssj3 and getting his ass whooped on that note can't wait to see vegeta vs beerus. It was an amazing rage boost but only like 5 mins long.