| Developed or published, doesn't matter. >NB4 Shin Megami Tensei >NB4 Persona My favorite is Odin Sphere. Least favorite is Trauma Center. |
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| Persona 3 FES |
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| SMT: Nocturne but Persona 3 Portable is the game that made me start looking at other Atlus franchises like Digital Devil Saga, Devil Summoner and Devil Survivor I don't have a least favorite, well actually I do. Persona Q. |
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| Although i love persona 3, Persona 2 eternal punishment is my first :3 Then.. Raidou Kuzunoha vs the soulless army is quite good too, (i was starting to play the sequel vs king abaddon but my ps2 gave up on me XD ) And odin sphere is also good... |
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| Oh and OP don't be a hipster if that was the reason for saying NB4 their 2 best and most succesful franchises. Also a game being published by Atlus does NOT make it an Atlus game because they had absolutely nothing to do with the game, they just took a smaller companies game and localized/managed its sales. Catherine was MADE by Atlus but that horrible Game of Thrones games was not. |
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Democracy said: Oh and OP don't be a hipster Yeah but Odin Sphere was really good. I really want a sequel. I loved Oswald... |
Thrashinuva said: Democracy said: Oh and OP don't be a hipster Yeah but Odin Sphere was really good. I really want a sequel. I loved Oswald... I personally don't see why so many people like it, I bought it digitally and found it extremely boring. It's probably because I played it for the first time in 2013 though and not when it was released. |
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Democracy said: Thrashinuva said: Yeah but Odin Sphere was really good. I really want a sequel. I loved Oswald... I personally don't see why so many people like it, I bought it digitally and found it extremely boring. It's probably because I played it for the first time in 2013 though and not when it was released. Have you played Dragon Crown? It's like Dragon Crown, only all the characters matter and there's a plot. |
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Thrashinuva said: Democracy said: I personally don't see why so many people like it, I bought it digitally and found it extremely boring. It's probably because I played it for the first time in 2013 though and not when it was released. Have you played Dragon Crown? It's like Dragon Crown, only all the characters matter and there's a plot. I did play Dragons Crown, I really liked it but I'm sure my reason for enjoying it was because I played the entire "campaign" local co-op with my cousins. |
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| Persona 4 Golden |
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| Radiant historia Nocturne SMT4 Fuck persona 3 and 4 |
| Id say P3P/P4G, handheld versions for the win. Also when P5 comes out, that will be my new number #1. |
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| SMT fan sure hate Persona. As for me I love them both. |
Vanisher said: Radiant historia Nocturne SMT4 Fuck persona 3 and 4 So edgy. |
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| Since there's no such thing as a "hard" JRPG (lmfao at SMT dorks) I like the Persona series the most. Excited for 5. |
| The games are not hard persay weedfiend just long. I have to admit I lean heavily towards Digital Devil, I enjoy that it has two parts and that it does not require the fusion skills the other games love so much. Persona 3 will always have a special place in my heart. However I enjoy Soul Hackers and Devil Survivor as well~ They have that new one coming out, Lost Dimension. I am pretty excited for it. |
 Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Suzune-chan said: I've played enough JRPGs in my lifetime. Many. Games like Nocturne, SMTIV are a grind to get through. I enjoyed both, but it's still just a matter of grinding for experience and assembling the right team with the right skills. It comes down to reading guides or paying attention to the games mechanics. It isn't harder than Persona really, it just takes a hell of a lot longer to obtain a powerful team. With Persona I find the SoL stuff pretty entertaining, so that's a plus. When I'm sick of dungeoncrawling, there's another set of mechanics to play with and story rewards for doing so. I wouldn't mind the dungeon/battle aspect of Persona to match or even exceed the difficulty of the mainline SMT series but personally I don't think that will make the game more fun. More varieties in the way you can interact with the mechanics (assuming the game gives you proper reason to do so) will.The games are not hard persay weedfiend just long. I have to admit I lean heavily towards Digital Devil, I enjoy that it has two parts and that it does not require the fusion skills the other games love so much. Persona 3 will always have a special place in my heart. However I enjoy Soul Hackers and Devil Survivor as well~ They have that new one coming out, Lost Dimension. I am pretty excited for it. |
| Indeed that is what I meant. If you have the patience to level up and learn the combos for the bosses the battles become easy. Not having the right team or the right strategy despite being ten levels higher then the boss will still net you a loss, so from that perspective people might say it is unforgiving. I do not disagree with you comment. When I learned I needed null death and 3.5million coins in digital devil, it crossed my mind that the game was evil and hard though. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
xXxweedfiendxXx said: Since there's no such thing as a "hard" JRPG (lmfao at SMT dorks) I like the Persona series the most. Excited for 5. The moment you can say than one is harder than the other (and you can, no bs) the moment you could define them as "hard" xXxweedfiendxXx said: Suzune-chan said: I've played enough JRPGs in my lifetime. Many. Games like Nocturne, SMTIV are a grind to get through. I enjoyed both, but it's still just a matter of grinding for experience and assembling the right team with the right skills. It comes down to reading guides or paying attention to the games mechanics. It isn't harder than Persona really, it just takes a hell of a lot longer to obtain a powerful team. With Persona I find the SoL stuff pretty entertaining, so that's a plus. When I'm sick of dungeoncrawling, there's another set of mechanics to play with and story rewards for doing so. I wouldn't mind the dungeon/battle aspect of Persona to match or even exceed the difficulty of the mainline SMT series but personally I don't think that will make the game more fun. More varieties in the way you can interact with the mechanics (assuming the game gives you proper reason to do so) will.The games are not hard persay weedfiend just long. I have to admit I lean heavily towards Digital Devil, I enjoy that it has two parts and that it does not require the fusion skills the other games love so much. Persona 3 will always have a special place in my heart. However I enjoy Soul Hackers and Devil Survivor as well~ They have that new one coming out, Lost Dimension. I am pretty excited for it. SMTIV is piss easy you don't need to grind at all. You also don't need to grind in Nocturne if you are smart about building your team. I didn't need to, although it was my second playthrough after dropping the first one. Just because you can solve things by grinding it doesn't mean the games doesn't have a difficulty, you could say the same stuff about souls games, and whoever says that you need to grind in souls games is awfully wrong. Suzune-chan said: They have that new one coming out, Lost Dimension. I am pretty excited for it. Lost dimension y u not on ps4 :( |
VanisherJul 4, 2015 9:33 PM
| The grind in Nocturne and SMTIV is much longer than Persona, relatively. You don't need to spend any extra time on the way to bosses fighting mobs in 3 and 4, you can beeline even on the hardest difficulties. I wouldn't say the same thing about Souls games (I've beaten 1 and 2 up to NG++++++) because mechanical skill overrides any need for grinding. I've beaten the game at SL1, the nature of the mechanics makes it totally different from turn based RPGs. Everything takes longer to do in SMT. Grinding doesn't just mean EXP grinding, it means negotiating to get the right demons, fusing, grabbing skills, everything is less forgiving and takes much longer than in the Persona series. I don't find that to increase the "fun" factor of engaging with the battle or dungeon mechanics at all. The difficulty in JRPGs comes from making bad or wrong decisions. I think I'm just worn out on turn based RPGs in general unless the systems are really unique or there's more to the rest of the game |
xXxweedfiendxXx said: The grind in Nocturne and SMTIV is much longer than Persona, relatively. You don't need to spend any extra time on the way to bosses fighting mobs in 3 and 4, you can beeline even on the hardest difficulties. I wouldn't say the same thing about Souls games (I've beaten 1 and 2 up to NG++++++) because mechanical skill overrides any need for grinding. I've beaten the game at SL1, the nature of the mechanics makes it totally different from turn based RPGs. Everything takes longer to do in SMT. Grinding doesn't just mean EXP grinding, it means negotiating to get the right demons, fusing, grabbing skills, everything is less forgiving and takes much longer than in the Persona series. I don't find that to increase the "fun" factor of engaging with the battle or dungeon mechanics at all. The difficulty in JRPGs comes from making bad or wrong decisions. I think I'm just worn out on turn based RPGs in general unless the systems are really unique or there's more to the rest of the game Well of course the effect of skill in souls games is year bigger than what you would find on turn based rpgs, but even then I still heard a lot of people saying that you "need" to grind in the souls games. But fair enough, the "difficulty" of SMT does come from the decision making when building up your party (skills inheritance, fusing and such) |
VanisherJul 4, 2015 10:05 PM
Democracy said: What? It was merely a prediction since they are the most successful ("best" though, hah, I scoff). Oh and OP don't be a hipster if that was the reason for saying NB4 their 2 best and most succesful franchises. whatever said: Also a game being published by Atlus does NOT make it an Atlus game because they had absolutely nothing to do with the game, they just took a smaller companies game and localized/managed its sales. OkayCaim said: Developed or published, doesn't matter. whatever said: Catherine was MADE by Atlus but that horrible Game of Thrones games was not. lol giving the "Game of Thrones" label to anything with a dark atmosphere and medieval setting. Into the trash you go. |
PeenusWeenusCaimJul 4, 2015 10:27 PM
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| I find Dragon Crown to be the best Vanillaware game I played, certainly better than Odin Sphere mechanically. As for favorite Atlus game, it's going to be SMT 3: Nocturne. |
| Riviera: The Promised Land though Atlus didn't really made the game but I liked this game. |
FGAU1912 said: Difficulty doesn't mean quality though. Tactics Ogre, for example, is mind-numbingly easy but it's a very enjoyable JRPG.SMTIV while the best game aluts have made since they loet there independence is still a week sauce game 100% 31:05 its not worthy of the name if you cpmare it ot how hard the first games were the first time yuou played them [ usless you a save scumming emu noob] |
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| Tactics Ogre for the PS1. Amazing game. I have never owned a PsP or Vita. |
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| No love for Etrian Odyssey? Plebs. |
OkayCaim said: SMTIV sucked. Extremely Very short, chock full of DLC, and the battles weren't even that hard. I'm not a diehard fan of the series, so I can't see any of the appeal it has going for it.FGAU1912 said: Difficulty doesn't mean quality though. Tactics Ogre, for example, is mind-numbingly easy but it's a very enjoyable JRPG.SMTIV while the best game aluts have made since they loet there independence is still a week sauce game 100% 31:05 its not worthy of the name if you cpmare it ot how hard the first games were the first time yuou played them [ usless you a save scumming emu noob] |
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| Radiant Historia. One of the best RPG in the last generation and one of my favorite games. Odin Sphere wasn't bad per say, but it was low budget and repetitive due to reusing the same assets for the sake of portraying different POV after the first story. Doesn't help that a lot of the characters have a very similar gameplay mechanics and movesets, so you pretty much played almost the same game 4 times before the ending arc/chapter. I will admit the artstyle was charming and the characters were pretty decent though, but even with those it got really boring after a while. |
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FGAU1912 said: suuuuuuuuure. Syrup- said: SMTIV sucked. Extremely Very short, chock full of DLC, and the battles weren't even that hard. I'm not a diehard fan of the series, so I can't see any of the appeal it has going for it. its better than p4 and p3 |
Syrup-Jul 5, 2015 8:30 AM
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FGAU1912 said: Syrup- said: suuuuuuuuure it is very much much better A game with barely any artistic direction, crappy musical score, boring plot that has been done to death in literature and other works of fiction, terrible dialogue, and repetitive uninteresting gameplay, let's just call that better than Persona 3 or 4. SMTIV was the weakest title I have played in the entire Atlus repertoire |
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| >SMTIV >crappy musical score Stopped reading there. |
Vanisher said: >le may may arrows>SMTIV >crappy musical score Stopped reading there. get out |
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| Doesn't really matter if I've played the other titles in the franchise. I intended to start with that one, and even went in knowing that it was nothing like Persona. I think the setting of the SMT franchise is great, but SMT4 was just a terrible experience in my opinion. Atlus has way better to offer. I just don't see how SMT4 was great, maybe it's just because of the hype train you had to be around for or something. I'm not writing off the series at all. I do intend to play the other titles, but SMT4 was just not my cup of tea at all. FGAU1912 said: Don't you think that's why they're doing it? So that people can differentiate between Persona and SMT? It's the same series but I wouldn't really say they belong to each other very well.it to light hart an art style des not fit mega ten while SMTIV had proper art |
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Syrup- said: I just don't see how SMT4 was great, maybe it's just because of the hype train you had to be around for or something.. Or maybe some people just disagree with what you said above? |
Vanisher said: I wasn't born yesterday. I know people will disagree with me, and I realize how much of a fanbase there is for not just the fourth game, but the entire series. What I was asking for was reasons why SMT4 should even be considered worth playing, since I played all the way through it and couldn't find anything to like about it. Why do people like this game? I'm not busting balls here dude.Syrup- said: I just don't see how SMT4 was great, maybe it's just because of the hype train you had to be around for or something.. Or maybe some people just disagree with what you said above? |
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| Catherine It was such an unique game |
| Trauma Center that part with the suicidal girl fuckin' assassinated me |
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OkayCaim said: Developed or published, doesn't matter. >NB4 Shin Megami Tensei >NB4 Persona My favorite is Odin Sphere. Least favorite is Trauma Center. Lol, everytime you create a thread there's a war :P |
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