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Oct 3, 2014 2:00 AM

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BotatoPriest said:
As I said before, the VN medium is terrible. We get good stories like F/SN and S;G but good God is reading them a freaking chore at times <.<

They somehow make a 1 hour read turn into a 3 hours read. Which, to someone like me who is already slow, almost out weighs all of the positives of the medium.



For you,

Reading something as detailed as FSN is a cause to rejoice.
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GangstaPriest said:
Ah, just realized you dropped /0 at episode 3. Ofc you wouldn't get to see much of his character in such a short time!

I think it's really confusing how much he looks like the other guy, couldn't tell them apart, just remembered one them looks older.

BotatoPriest said:
but good God is reading them a freaking chore at times <.<

Exactly.

*click click click click click*

Really annoying. I couldn't even complete Katwa Shoujo which from my understanding is an entry level VN, and doesn't have as much heavy text.
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tsudecimo said:
GangstaPriest said:
Ah, just realized you dropped /0 at episode 3. Ofc you wouldn't get to see much of his character in such a short time!

I think it's really confusing how much he looks like the other guy, couldn't tell them apart, just remembered one them looks older.

BotatoPriest said:
but good God is reading them a freaking chore at times <.<

Exactly.

*click click click click click*

Really annoying. I couldn't even complete Katwa Shoujo which from my understanding is an entry level VN, and doesn't have as much heavy text.


Ever heard of auto read? It helps. A lot.
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tsudecimo said:
GangstaPriest said:
Ah, just realized you dropped /0 at episode 3. Ofc you wouldn't get to see much of his character in such a short time!

I think it's really confusing how much he looks like the other guy, couldn't tell them apart, just remembered one them looks older.
I'm glad I wasn't the only person to have this problem at first...
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Oct 3, 2014 2:53 AM

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SlothPriest said:
tsudecimo said:

I think it's really confusing how much he looks like the other guy, couldn't tell them apart, just remembered one them looks older.
I'm glad I wasn't the only person to have this problem at first...

I also had a hard time at first. That's why I was actually hesitant to watch it at first.
Deconstruction ≠ Darker & Edgier
Trope ≠ Cliché (Face it, nothing is completely original. Can't make something from nothing so to say.).
Fanservice ≠ Ecchi (Though ecchi can please the fans!)
Popular ≠ Sucks... maybe
Seinen = K-ON! Shounen, Shoujo, Seinen and Josei are demographics.
Anime/Manga = Japanese Cartoons! Deal with it.

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Oct 3, 2014 3:10 AM

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CookingPriest said:
BotatoPriest said:
As I said before, the VN medium is terrible. We get good stories like F/SN and S;G but good God is reading them a freaking chore at times <.<

They somehow make a 1 hour read turn into a 3 hours read. Which, to someone like me who is already slow, almost out weighs all of the positives of the medium.



For you,

Reading something as detailed as FSN is a cause to rejoice.
I love the details.
That's not the problem; the details aren't what make this long. It's the way VNs work.

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Ever heard of auto read? It helps. A lot.
Not by much last I tried it tbh.
Oct 3, 2014 3:24 AM

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SlothPriest said:
tsudecimo said:
I didn't dislike him, I don't particular remember much about him, same with Saber, I just found them boring, and then dropped F/Z

What is yuetsu? is that the Japanese word for rejoice?
Nothing I can do about that, I guess. It's a shame but I guess I can't force you to finish it.

*Pleasure

http://zanmetsun.tumblr.com/post/24527034442/that-one-night-gilgamesh-kun-visited-kirei-kun


Oh god that was absolutely GLORIOUS

GLORIOUS

GLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


Oct 3, 2014 3:31 AM

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MercifulPriest said:
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Nothing I can do about that, I guess. It's a shame but I guess I can't force you to finish it.

*Pleasure

http://zanmetsun.tumblr.com/post/24527034442/that-one-night-gilgamesh-kun-visited-kirei-kun


Oh god that was absolutely GLORIOUS

GLORIOUS

GLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Didn't click before, but then reading your comment made me click it.

I regret not clicking it sooner.
Deconstruction ≠ Darker & Edgier
Trope ≠ Cliché (Face it, nothing is completely original. Can't make something from nothing so to say.).
Fanservice ≠ Ecchi (Though ecchi can please the fans!)
Popular ≠ Sucks... maybe
Seinen = K-ON! Shounen, Shoujo, Seinen and Josei are demographics.
Anime/Manga = Japanese Cartoons! Deal with it.

Support Movember. Raise awareness of men's health issues. Put a mustache on your avatars or something...
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MercifulPriest said:
SlothPriest said:
Nothing I can do about that, I guess. It's a shame but I guess I can't force you to finish it.

*Pleasure

http://zanmetsun.tumblr.com/post/24527034442/that-one-night-gilgamesh-kun-visited-kirei-kun


Oh god that was absolutely GLORIOUS

GLORIOUS

GLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Still waiting for part 3 :'(
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Oct 3, 2014 3:57 AM

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SlothPriest said:
He apparently gets a lot better in the Heaven's feel route (which I can't wait to get to).


HF is easily the best part with Kirei. One scene with him in there is particularly amazing... probably my favourite scene in the entire FSN series to be honest, or one of them at least (for those who have read it, you can probably guess which scene I'm referring to).

I certainly thought he was a good character outside of HF too, but HF made him far more awesome in my eyes. I really hope ufotable gets it right with those movies...
Oct 3, 2014 4:07 AM

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As retarded as beast's lair can sometimes be, this is pure gem:
Oct 3, 2014 4:08 AM

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Harlequina said:
SlothPriest said:
He apparently gets a lot better in the Heaven's feel route (which I can't wait to get to).


HF is easily the best part with Kirei. One scene with him in there is particularly amazing... probably my favourite scene in the entire FSN series to be honest, or one of them at least (for those who have read it, you can probably guess which scene I'm referring to).

I certainly thought he was a good character outside of HF too, but HF made him far more awesome in my eyes. I really hope ufotable gets it right with those movies...
Apparently the director for UBW is a Rin fan and the director for HF is a Sakura fan.

Meaning they will be competing against each other or something.

And considering UBW will drop while HF is still in pre-production, HF director can cheat see what was done right and do it better, also avoid any screw ups.

^ This is me trying to be optimistic about HF movie(s).

CookingPriest said:
As retarded as beast's lair can sometimes be, this is pure gem:
Ah man, I need to learn how to play BINGO now.
Oct 3, 2014 4:10 AM
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CookingPriest said:
As retarded as beast's lair can sometimes be, this is pure gem:
Well, Rin's nose is a little weird :S
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Oct 3, 2014 4:11 AM

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BotatoPriest said:
Apparently the director for UBW is a Rin fan and the director for HF is a Sakura fan.


HF director is cherrylover?

I hope its wrong tbh. If they screw up Rin's awesomeness in HF i be mad. That's literally half the reason I will watch it.
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BotatoPriest said:
CorePriest said:
Ever heard of auto read? It helps. A lot.
Not by much last I tried it tbh.


Well, I don't have a problem with reading VNs and I adjusted the speed (too slow for me initially). It would annoy me too if I had to click every time, but I didn't have to, only when a choice came up obviously. Reading e-books nowadays doesn't feel very different to me. I think the VN genre just isn't suited to you.
Oct 3, 2014 4:12 AM

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Basically, generally, if you have no problems chewing through a decent-sized(200-300 page) book in a day or two, VNs should be no problem.
Oct 3, 2014 4:31 AM

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CookingPriest said:
As retarded as beast's lair can sometimes be, this is pure gem:


...I get all of them except the blue lines one ._. What does that one mean.


Oct 3, 2014 4:35 AM

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MercifulPriest said:
CookingPriest said:
As retarded as beast's lair can sometimes be, this is pure gem:


...I get all of them except the blue lines one ._. What does that one mean.


Oct 3, 2014 5:00 AM

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MercifulPriest said:
CookingPriest said:
As retarded as beast's lair can sometimes be, this is pure gem:


...I get all of them except the blue lines one ._. What does that one mean.


Oct 3, 2014 5:09 AM

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CookingPriest said:
MercifulPriest said:


...I get all of them except the blue lines one ._. What does that one mean.




Oh jolly, if anyone actually complains about that..

This could being the worst adaptation of all time but i'd probably still achieve Yuetsu, i just want to see ufotable do some of these scenes.
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CorePriest said:
MercifulPriest said:


...I get all of them except the blue lines one ._. What does that one mean.






I take it all back
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Inu is a priceless gem within the community.
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JunePriest said:
Inu is a priceless gem within the community.


Too much cross-contamination is a bad thing, June.
Oct 3, 2014 6:59 AM

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CookingPriest said:
As retarded as beast's lair can sometimes be, this is pure gem:


How does one play this...i need to know the rules
Oct 3, 2014 9:51 AM

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If you can click through hundreds of pages while reading manga the VN should be way easier.
Oct 3, 2014 9:56 AM

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FakePriest said:
If you can click through hundreds of pages while reading manga the VN should be way easier.


Well unless you are reading a VERY GOOD manga(or are VERY GOOD at reading manga), hundreds of pages usually contain nothing but pictures you skip only then to complain about asspulls that totally are not because you missed foreshadowing

I seen way too many people miss the point of shirou's monologues in fate route and take what he says to others(which is 99% of time a lie or a mask) at face value.
Oct 3, 2014 10:15 AM

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your implying that fate has deeper story than face value
"I'm already a demon," said the spider to the fly.
Oct 3, 2014 10:16 AM

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your implying that fate has deeper story than face value
Yes.
Oct 3, 2014 10:21 AM

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theres the usual harem trappings too I suppose

gotta fill that tsundere and loli quota
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theres the usual harem trappings too I suppose

gotta fill that tsundere and loli quota

Oct 3, 2014 10:35 AM

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It does.


your statement has about the same depth as the story itself
"I'm already a demon," said the spider to the fly.
Oct 3, 2014 11:08 AM
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At least we can assume that they wont treat Sakura like a blithering idiot or a joke character finally.
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They're kinda scary imo
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Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain.

We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us
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Cherry_LoVer said:
At least we can assume that they wont treat Sakura like a blithering idiot or a joke character finally.
Why would they do such a thing? Sakura is DEFINED by her comical edginess.
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JunePriest said:
Cherry_LoVer said:
At least we can assume that they wont treat Sakura like a blithering idiot or a joke character finally.
Why would they do such a thing? Sakura is DEFINED by her comical edginess.


She isnt "definied" by anything of the sort. She's an important character who probably cares about the protagonist more than anyone else.
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Cherry_LoVer said:
JunePriest said:
Why would they do such a thing? Sakura is DEFINED by her comical edginess.


She isnt "definied" by anything of the sort. She's an important character who probably cares about the protagonist more than anyone else.
Indeed, she loved him so much that she wanted him to put himself through even more harm just to sate her ego, what a fine gal!

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That's the last thing I wanted. Endless discussions about Sakura and her importance. Please go on, June, I am amused.
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Cherry_LoVer said:
JunePriest said:
Why would they do such a thing? Sakura is DEFINED by her comical edginess.


She isnt "definied" by anything of the sort. She's an important character who probably cares about the protagonist more than anyone else.
Is this the notorious Sakura fanboy you guys were talking about?
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JunePriest said:
Cherry_LoVer said:


She isnt "definied" by anything of the sort. She's an important character who probably cares about the protagonist more than anyone else.
Indeed Mike, she loved him so much that she wanted him to put himself through even more harm just to sate her ego, what a fine gal!



She was coming to terms with the guilt of her new found freedom that Shirou was fighting to give her. By the time of Hollow Ataraxia, her true self is able to shine through and she loves him unconditionally.
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SlothPriest said:
Cherry_LoVer said:


She isnt "definied" by anything of the sort. She's an important character who probably cares about the protagonist more than anyone else.
Is this the notorious Sakura fanboy you guys were talking about?
Cherry_LoVer-sama is love, Cherry_LoVer-sama is life.
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Is the importance of sakura STILL going on to this day? haven't we all concluded she isn't of any importance and is only there to make illya and mainly Kotomine look better?
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Cherry_LoVer said:
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Indeed Mike, she loved him so much that she wanted him to put himself through even more harm just to sate her ego, what a fine gal!



She was coming to terms with the guilt of her new found freedom that Shirou was fighting to give her. By the time of Hollow Ataraxia, her true self is able to shine through and she loves him unconditionally.
>Hollow Ataraxia

External material, oh wow.

TheUnknownMerc said:
Is the importance of sakura STILL going on to this day? haven't we all concluded she isn't of any importance and is only there to make illya and mainly Kotomine look better?
It's good to see a sensible guy like you around, I agree.
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TheUnknownMerc said:
Is the importance of sakura STILL going on to this day? haven't we all concluded she isn't of any importance and is only there to make illya and mainly Kotomine look better?

That's complete bollocks. She wouldnt have gotten her own route if that was the case. Illya didnt get one, and Heavens Feel is the longest, most interesting route out of the three.
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is relevant beyond cheap depression-building?

You learn something new everyday~


Also we ALL know that HF is Illya route.
is there for the sake of being pounded upon, in this case figuratively



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External material, oh wow.


I've read the translated scenes and seen the pictures. Hell, I've even posted some of the pictures myself.
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and here we go again...
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Cherry_LoVer said:
TheUnknownMerc said:
Is the importance of sakura STILL going on to this day? haven't we all concluded she isn't of any importance and is only there to make illya and mainly Kotomine look better?

That's complete bollocks. She wouldnt have gotten her own route if that was the case. Illya didnt get one, and Heavens Feel is the longest, most interesting route out of the three.
Funny thing is Illya is pretty much the heroine
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CookingPriest said:
is relevant beyond cheap depression-building?

You learn something new everyday~


Also we ALL know that HF is Illya route.
is there for the sake of being pounded upon, in this case figuratively.
lol
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JunePriest said:
Cherry_LoVer said:

That's complete bollocks. She wouldnt have gotten her own route if that was the case. Illya didnt get one, and Heavens Feel is the longest, most interesting route out of the three.
Funny thing is Illya is pretty much the heroine, we actually see her relationship with Shirou develop and who is the one who pretty much saves everyone's ass at the conclusion of HF? Cause it sure as hell wasn't Ms. Damsel in Distress.


Well, it was Rider who took over helping Shirou fight. Illya just popped in at the end to wrap up the story.
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Cherry_LoVer said:
JunePriest said:
Funny thing is Illya is pretty much the heroine, we actually see her relationship with Shirou develop and who is the one who pretty much saves everyone's ass at the conclusion of HF? Cause it sure as hell wasn't Ms. Damsel in Distress.


Well, it was Rider who took over helping Shirou fight. Illya just popped in at the end to wrap up the story.
Rider isn't even a character though, it's sure as hell that Nasu didn't know what to do with the gal.
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