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Is Asseylum Vers Allusi dead or alive?
Aug 31, 2014 1:21 AM
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Is Asseylum Vers Allusi dead or alive? what do you think? i personally think she will be alive, because they are stuck in the middle of an ice field with no means of escape. Also i don't think they would kill of the only remaining hope for peace in the show.
Aug 31, 2014 3:22 AM
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I hope shes really dead, can't stand her character. Definition of a princess, so annoying, she should've died slowly in a fire like that one guy's friend. Maybe Rayet is another Martian princess, as hinted from her conversation with the instructor.

Edit: I change my mind, she won't be dead. Next episode she will save Rayet by saying it was autoerotic asphyxiation because she is 2 nice and 2 pure.
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Aug 31, 2014 3:34 AM
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Think so, not sure how it works with Urobutcher being the script writer only until the third episode but he's still the original creator so we can count that it was his idea to kill her if she is.
Aug 31, 2014 3:57 AM
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she's listed as main, no (good) main character died in psycho pass or in suisei no gargantia until the very end where it also made sense, plus she was strangled for like 15-20s at most, which can make her unconscious (maybe) but doesn#t kill her(rayet did not continue to strangl her but let her go), unless anime logic. I'm fairly sure she's alive, also from a plot standpoint it wouldn't make any sense to kill her off here at this point, but i'm not saying the action of the martian girl are totally baseless, just that the circumstances and the action itself point to her being alive, contrary to the count that got killed the ep before by a giant mechalasersword.
Aug 31, 2014 4:13 AM
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Jaridan said:
she's listed as main, no (good) main character died in psycho pass or in suisei no gargantia until the very end where it also made sense, plus she was strangled for like 15-20s at most, which can make her unconscious (maybe) but doesn#t kill her(rayet did not continue to strangl her but let her go), unless anime logic. I'm fairly sure she's alive, also from a plot standpoint it wouldn't make any sense to kill her off here at this point, but i'm not saying the action of the martian girl are totally baseless, just that the circumstances and the action itself point to her being alive, contrary to the count that got killed the ep before by a giant mechalasersword.


That is true. In science logic, being strangled for at 15-20 seconds will only cause her to be unconscious because the lack of air makes the brain temporarily shuts down some functions, mostly the muscle and awareness part.
Aug 31, 2014 4:57 AM
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Alive. They are fucked if they are stuck on that plateu (Gobi?, Russia?, Himalaya?) without any possibility to reach nearest HQ.
Aug 31, 2014 5:05 AM
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Of course she is alive, how can you even question it. But it would be shocking if she really died. And stupid. :D
Aug 31, 2014 5:08 AM
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Show would be basically over if she is.

Aug 31, 2014 5:26 AM
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I hope she dies, but I think she will be fine.
Aug 31, 2014 5:31 AM

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Nah. In this particular case, the plot armour is too strong for Urobuchi's boner for major deaths to penetrate. Would've been cool tho.
Aug 31, 2014 5:32 AM

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I would actually like the shock factor of her being dead though, i like stories were significant characters actually die. That iss one of the reasons i liked Code Geass so much.
Aug 31, 2014 5:33 AM

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If I'm not mistaken,when choking happen,as you lose oxygen,you will first losing consciousness and if the choking continue after you lose consciousness,only then you will die. Because Rayet didn't continue choking her,her probability still alive is high.
ZapredonAug 31, 2014 5:36 AM
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Aug 31, 2014 5:34 AM
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The plot armor is strong with this anime so...you can guess what's my answer with that premise.
Aug 31, 2014 6:46 AM

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Zapredon said:
If I'm not mistaken,when choking happen,as you lose oxygen,you will first losing consciousness and if the choking continue after you lose consciousness,only then you will die. Because Rayet didn't continue choking her,her probability still alive is high.


That's exactly what happen to Seylum.
Aug 31, 2014 7:37 AM

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Inko's teh new princess.
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Aug 31, 2014 8:58 AM
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Shirubaasouru said:
Inko's teh new princess.

Or maybe Nina.
Aug 31, 2014 9:04 AM

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kickmesign said:
I change my mind, she won't be dead. Next episode she will save Rayet by saying it was autoerotic asphyxiation because she is 2 nice and 2 pure.

Mmhm, yeah.

It is unlikely that she is dead, because she is the drive of the series, metaphorically and literally.
If she didn't drive them around, I'd say that she could be dead, since the lack of aldnoah heir would be a nice topic for the sceond cour. On the other hand, martians must think that they already have this problem.

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Alive. They are fucked if they are stuck on that plateu (Gobi?, Russia?, Himalaya?) without any possibility to reach nearest HQ.

Since there was snow out of nowhere, that's, probably, Russia. I'm kinda intrugued.
Local fans wonder what the amount of sterotypes will be this time. ><
Aug 31, 2014 9:13 AM
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deadoptimist said:
kickmesign said:
I change my mind, she won't be dead. Next episode she will save Rayet by saying it was autoerotic asphyxiation because she is 2 nice and 2 pure.

Mmhm, yeah.

It is unlikely that she is dead, because she is the drive of the series, metaphorically and literally.
If she didn't drive them around, I'd say that she could be dead, since the lack of aldnoah heir would be a nice topic for the sceond cour. On the other hand, martians must think that they already have this problem.

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Alive. They are fucked if they are stuck on that plateu (Gobi?, Russia?, Himalaya?) without any possibility to reach nearest HQ.

Since there was snow out of nowhere, that's, probably, Russia. I'm kinda intrugued.
Local fans wonder what the amount of sterotypes will be this time. ><

Maybe the clone of the princess die in the shower.
Aug 31, 2014 9:26 AM
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SHE IS DEAD!
THE WHOLE SHIP FELL IS THE STRONGEST INDICATION!
Aug 31, 2014 10:20 AM

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Ok, read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconsciousness

And a quote:

"Unconsciousness is the condition of being not conscious—in a mental state that involves complete or near-complete lack of responsiveness to people and other environmental stimuli. Being in a comatose state or coma is a type of unconsciousness. Fainting due to a drop in blood pressure and a decrease of the oxygen supply to the brain is a temporary loss of consciousness. Loss of consciousness must not be confused with altered states of consciousness, such as delirium (when the person is confused and only partially responsive to the environment), normal sleep, hypnosis, and other altered states in which the person responds to stimuli."

Or you can read more official source: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000022.htm

But still:

"Being asleep is not the same thing as being unconscious. A sleeping person will respond to loud noises or gentle shaking -- an unconscious person will not."

Hope these will clear things up for many people...
Aug 31, 2014 10:59 AM

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If not dead then probably brain damaged.
Aug 31, 2014 2:40 PM

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Possible memory loss? I don't think she's dead.
Aug 31, 2014 2:47 PM

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This thread again? No seriously? Somebody had to make this thread again.

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Think so, not sure how it works with Urobutcher being the script writer only until the third episode but he's still the original creator so we can count that it was his idea to kill her if she is.


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Aug 31, 2014 2:57 PM

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kaimax said:
This thread again? No seriously? Somebody had to make this thread again.

R4vel said:
Think so, not sure how it works with Urobutcher being the script writer only until the third episode but he's still the original creator so we can count that it was his idea to kill her if she is.


He doesn't give a shit
http://nekoshiritori.wordpress.com/2014/08/25/interview-with-gen-urobuchi/


Wrong. All he said was he doesn't feel any connection with Inaho as a character. He never once said or implied he doesn't care about AZ. Stop spreading lies.
Aug 31, 2014 3:18 PM
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ex_necross said:
kaimax said:
This thread again? No seriously? Somebody had to make this thread again.



He doesn't give a shit
http://nekoshiritori.wordpress.com/2014/08/25/interview-with-gen-urobuchi/


Wrong. All he said was he doesn't feel any connection with Inaho as a character. He never once said or implied he doesn't care about AZ. Stop spreading lies.

:D
Aug 31, 2014 5:33 PM

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With having only 3 eps to go (I have not a single clue whether Aldnoah is supposed to be a two “season” anime as Fate/Zero, so I might be wrong here), Saazbaum blatantly saying that he’s the one responsible for the coup, and the ship hitting ground soon after the princess’ collapse I think it’s safe to assume that she’s dead. I’d make sense, the coup was successful and the war has been star… won. The remaining episodes would show Terrans being defeated and the would-be humanity’s hope captured by Martians.
Aug 31, 2014 7:02 PM
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People are right that the plot says that she's alive, but we have to remember that he aldnoah drives shut down? Is it something that happens when you're not conscious? Does that mean it happens when you're asleep? Or under anaesthetics? Evidence says she's dead but for the sake of the plot unless another person has aldnoah powers or killing a Martian personally grants them to Rayet things are pretty messed up.
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People are right that the plot says that she's alive, but we have to remember that he aldnoah drives shut down? Is it something that happens when you're not conscious? Does that mean it happens when you're asleep? Or under anaesthetics? Evidence says she's dead but for the sake of the plot unless another person has aldnoah powers or killing a Martian personally grants them to Rayet things are pretty messed up.


Again.. Does anyone care to read previous posts before posting?

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Ok, read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconsciousness

And a quote:

"Unconsciousness is the condition of being not conscious—in a mental state that involves complete or near-complete lack of responsiveness to people and other environmental stimuli. Being in a comatose state or coma is a type of unconsciousness. Fainting due to a drop in blood pressure and a decrease of the oxygen supply to the brain is a temporary loss of consciousness. Loss of consciousness must not be confused with altered states of consciousness, such as delirium (when the person is confused and only partially responsive to the environment), normal sleep, hypnosis, and other altered states in which the person responds to stimuli."

Or you can read more official source: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000022.htm

But still:

"Being asleep is not the same thing as being unconscious. A sleeping person will respond to loud noises or gentle shaking -- an unconscious person will not."

Hope these will clear things up for many people...
Aug 31, 2014 7:37 PM
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I would expect her to be alive, since she's also the princess of the plot. But a lot of me "wants" her to be dead, just so it's more Urobutcher-like. I'm curious to see how it will go from there. Did he kill her? DID HE KILL HER?

Anime Time does not equal Real Time. (e.g. HunterXHunter LOL) So I don't know if we should include a time span to guess if she's dead or not.
Aug 31, 2014 8:17 PM

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She will not die until at least halfway through second cour.
Aug 31, 2014 8:23 PM

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I would expect her to be alive, since she's also the princess of the plot. But a lot of me "wants" her to be dead, just so it's more Urobutcher-like. I'm curious to see how it will go from there. Did he kill her? DID HE KILL HER?

Anime Time does not equal Real Time. (e.g. HunterXHunter LOL) So I don't know if we should include a time span to guess if she's dead or not.


ok, leave aside the plot important and the fact that she cannot die in the first cour, I tell you this. If the little maid doesn't meet Inaho on the way back, Hime has a chance to die. But Inaho is there, too bad that he will save her.
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Shirubaasouru said:
Inko's teh new princess.

Or maybe Nina.


They swapped dresses, this makes total sense!

But yeah, the odds are, she's alive.
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Aug 31, 2014 8:40 PM

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In Fate/Zero (another anime by Urobutcher) Kariya tried to kill Tohsaka's wife the same way Rayet did to the princess, and she didn't die, but suffered mental damage or something.
Aug 31, 2014 8:48 PM

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I hope she's really dead (Though I really doubt that), can't stand goody 2 shoes type of characters like her.

But hey, maybe permanent brain damage is better :P
Aug 31, 2014 8:59 PM

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She is dead for now,but since the ship went down ,I think her love is gone or just her power who knows
Aug 31, 2014 9:03 PM

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If not dead then probably brain damaged.



image she is alive and still able to activate aldnoah but severly brain damaged.


a living energy provider with no sentience that the terrans have to use to be able to stand a chance.

would be pretty dark
Aug 31, 2014 11:19 PM

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alive indefinitely...Inaho will mouth to mouth like she did for Slaine.
Sep 1, 2014 2:56 AM

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No because urobutcher is not the main scriptwriter and has minimal involvement.

No again because if she died, Terrans would have absolutely no means to strike back on Martians and the show would become so onesided like dota 2 TI4 newbee > VG.

No because its not even close to the ending yet.

That aside, I'll be really interested if she actually dies as this anime would then be one of a kind. Not really going to happen though.
Sep 1, 2014 11:24 AM

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Dead?? Of course she would be alive...unless it's turn out to be that she was another body Double of her...(damn, i hope her body double during her assassination is still alive though)
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alive indefinitely...Inaho will mouth to mouth like she did for Slaine.

I don't like the idea but it will interesting to see stone boy kissing a cute girl >.<
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I hope she is dead, but it probably won't happen.
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Being choked leading to being passed out =/= dead

It's really that simple.


The only reason she would even be remotely dead was if she drowned while unconscious.
Sep 1, 2014 6:36 PM

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I am 95% sure she is dead, I am going to leave 5% for the surprise factor.

Too many reasons to think she is still alife.
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I am 95% sure she is dead, I am going to leave 5% for the surprise factor.

Uf, I think the same D:
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I hope she is dead, but it probably won't happen.


why? Because murder is cool?

so edgy
Sep 1, 2014 9:46 PM

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Definitely alive. How else are they going to fly that ship?

I'm more curious what happens to the martian chick that strangled her.

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Possible memory loss? I don't think she's dead.
Would not surprise me.

Inaho's a smart guy though so I'm sure he'll find out who dun it.
Sep 1, 2014 9:53 PM

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Why couldn't they kill ASSeylum's assistant shit instead, fuck that loli bitch.
Sep 2, 2014 12:55 AM

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R4vel said:
Why couldn't they kill ASSeylum's assistant shit instead, fuck that loli bitch.


actually both of them should die side by side
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Considering they still have to fly that ship, I'm guessing she's alive.

That, and there's the scene in the opening that we haven't seen yet (pointing a gun)

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