| I've heard a lot of women describe moe as sexist. Jesuotaku called moe characters nothing but, "cute pets you can stick your dick in". A lot of people really question the claim that moe isn't sexual at all. I agree with that, you're in denial if you don't see sexaulity in moe anime. And I can see where they're comming from. They're idea of cute is making these girls as silly and childlike as possible. In fact, I've actually see a lot where the highlight "cute scene" was the girl impersonating a dog. People claim it objectifies women as "cute little possessions"... no different from the plastic models these anime were meant to sell... Now, this isn't my opinion, and if it's true, then I don't care. I'll still watch moe even if it is sexist, why? Cause it's cute funny and I love it. Now as for magical girlfriend... I can really, really see where they're coming from here. Granted I've seen only chobits... but I can see how this is sexist kind of. It does portray the "ideal woman" as naive, innocent, submissive, perfect, and totally obediant. Even if not all of this genre is sexist, I will agree that anime like this is more sexist than anime that objectifies women sexuality. Fanservice anime like rosario+vampire only objectify the womans body. This objectifies her place in life. However, in defense, there are magical girlfriend anime that aren't all sexist. Chobits wasn't really sexist, it just wanted to show off chi's epic cuteness. She was a robot mind you. And was not an "ideal woman" at all. So when you think about it, she was more a massive display of cuteness, rather than a feminine stereotype exploited. But I can't say anything being a male. Many women love this genre. There are heterosexual female moe fans, and magical girlfriend fans. They woulnd't make shoujo magical girlfriend anime if there weren't. If straight women can like yuri, then anythings possible. Basically, I'm a dude, and I can't call anything sexist. I'd need a female opinion. |
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| Viewed through the correct lens, everything is sexist. |
| There is no sexism in moe or better yet no sort of -ism in moe. Moe in the personification terms can be anything. |
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Korrvo said: you think that's only tumblr?fucking christ tumblr hahahahaha Also, silversongwriter said: Basically, I'm a dude, and I can't call anything sexist. I'd need a female opinion. This is stupid. Sexism can go both way. |
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Sapewloth said: It's probably tumblr's faultKorrvo said: you think that's only tumblr?fucking christ tumblr hahahahaha all the retarded SJWs should stay on their side of the internet |
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| I have a dream that one day This thread and future threads will be gender neutral because this is getting annoying |
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Wyzdm said: AzuStar said: Guys guys he only wants a ladies opinion. BRB going to change my gender to female fst said: Viewed through the correct lens, everything is sexist. agreed |
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Hoppy said: There is no sexism in moe or better yet no sort of -ism in moe. Moe in the personification terms can be anything. Well I'm talking specifically about how women behave in most moe anime... also, keep in mind. I don't at all think moe is sexist. I love moe. I was just presenting the other side of the argument, and asking peoples opinions on it |
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Korrvo said: fucking christ tumblr Objectification of women is so rampant in the anime industry! How can you turn a blind eye to it? I will not stand for it! EQUAL RIGHTS FOR MAHOU SHOUJO & IMOUTO NOW! |
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silversongwriter said: Wyzdm said: BRB going to change my gender to female Wait, why did you just quote that whole post and didn't answer it? |
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Wyzdm said: This thread is sexist Hey, I wasn't making a point, I just felt like that to make claims on whether a certain type of anime is not or is sexist. It's probably best to get a female opinion |
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DerpHole said: equal rights for my dick plsKorrvo said: fucking christ tumblr Objectification of women is so rampant in the anime industry! How can you turn a blind eye to it? I will not stand for it! EQUAL RIGHTS FOR MAHOU SHOUJO & IMOUTO NOW! |
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DerpHole said: Korrvo said: fucking christ tumblr Objectification of women is so rampant in the anime industry! How can you turn a blind eye to it? I will not stand for it! EQUAL RIGHTS FOR MAHOU SHOUJO & IMOUTO NOW! Well there kinda is equality in that.. I mean think about it. Does the anime "Free" objectify men because it's a moe fanservice show meant for females to watch? I mean, I'm not calling any anime sexist yet... what are some examples of anime you feel are sexist |
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| Maybe if it was their only trait, but Moe characters often have a lot more going for them than that. Any character with their only real trait being "attractive" is obviously just going to be seen as something you can have your way with. They aren't Princess Peach. |
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Sapewloth said: Korrvo said: you think that's only tumblr?fucking christ tumblr hahahahaha Also, silversongwriter said: Basically, I'm a dude, and I can't call anything sexist. I'd need a female opinion. This is stupid. Sexism can go both way. Yea, but I'm only judging things that may be considered sexist towards women. What sense does it make for a bunch of dudes to discuss something that negatively effects women, and not men. |
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Dark_Chaos said: Maybe if it was their only trait, but Moe characters often have a lot more going for them than that. Any character with their only real trait being "attractive" is obviously just going to be seen as something you can have your way with. They aren't Princess Peach. Agreed, I think there's the potential to be sexist, the genre isn't |
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| Going to the bathroom is sexist |
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| clothes are sexist we only wear them because the MAN tells us to be ashamed of our privates ban clothes |
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Dark_Chaos said: Maybe if it was their only trait, but Moe characters often have a lot more going for them than that. Any character with their only real trait being "attractive" is obviously just going to be seen as something you can have your way with. They aren't Princess Peach. wut you saying about Princess Crown slap? |
| magical How sexist, g = girl = female = sexist everything is sexist |
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silversongwriter said: Yea, but I'm only judging things that may be considered sexist towards women. What sense does it make for a bunch of dudes to discuss something that negatively effects women, and not men. Not talking about moe, there, because I frankly don't give a shit, but I think that adopting that type of attitude ("It doesn't concern nor affect me directly, so I have no possible reason to care") is problematic while discussing any issue, be it related to gender, race, politics, environment or any other subject. Everything is more or less connected, and to get back to what you were saying, you might not be a woman, but they still make for 50% of the world's population with which you most likely interact on a daily basis. So there's a chance problems affecting them might be affecting you in other ways you're not necessarily aware of. If we broaden the discussion to "gender and its representation" without solely focusing on either men or women, then you may realize that there are issues to be discussed on both sides. Also Princess Peach is dope. Unbeatable when I choose her in SSBM. |
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Sapewloth said: silversongwriter said: Yea, but I'm only judging things that may be considered sexist towards women. What sense does it make for a bunch of dudes to discuss something that negatively effects women, and not men. Not talking about moe, there, because I frankly don't give a shit, but I think that adopting that type of attitude ("It doesn't concern nor affect me directly, so I have no possible reason to care") is problematic while discussing any issue, be it related to gender, race, politics, environment or any other subject. Everything is more or less connected, and to get back to what you were saying, you might not be a woman, but they still make for 50% of the world's population with which you most likely interact on a daily basis. So there's a chance problems affecting them might be affecting you in other ways you're not necessarily aware of. If we broaden the discussion to "gender and its representation" without solely focusing on either men or women, then you may realize that there are issues to be discussed on both sides. Also Princess Peach is dope. Unbeatable when I choose her in SSBM. "It doesn't concern nor affect me directly, so I have no possible reason to care" I'm not saying I don't care, I'm saying that someone who's actually female is better equipted to make a statement on it than me |
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Praland said: Going to the bathroom is sexist Hey, don't say that I'm the one calling stuff sexist. I was asking people's opinion. Personally, I love moe and I don't think magical girlfriend anime is inherently sexist... But some people do |
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| Sure, but it's not like you "can't say anything about it because I'm a guy" either. |
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silversongwriter said: HahahahaBasically, I'm a dude, and I can't call anything sexist. I'd need a female opinion. These guys are all cute/moe/sexualized/"objectified" in various ways and degrees. Holy shit, I must be oppressed! So sexist! |
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AzuStar said: Guys guys he only wants a ladies opinion. That is sexist. |
Korrvo said: clothes are sexist we only wear them because the MAN tells us to be ashamed of our privates ban clothes No, the real reason we wear clothes is because the clothing CORPORATIONS have shamed us into it. |
fst said: ban moneyKorrvo said: clothes are sexist we only wear them because the MAN tells us to be ashamed of our privates ban clothes No, the real reason we wear clothes is because the clothing CORPORATIONS have shamed us into it. |
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fst said: Korrvo said: clothes are sexist we only wear them because the MAN tells us to be ashamed of our privates ban clothes No, the real reason we wear clothes is because the clothing CORPORATIONS have shamed us into it. Yes, it's an evil conspiracy. Clothes are trying to steal our souls. Let's all join "Nudist beach" and liberate ourselves. |
Monad said: AzuStar said: Guys guys he only wants a ladies opinion. That is sexist. to want a woman's opinion just because they are women? |
Monad said: fst said: No, the real reason we wear clothes is because the clothing CORPORATIONS have shamed us into it. Yes, it's an evil conspiracy. Clothes are trying to steal our souls. Let's all join "Nudist beach" and liberate ourselves. #nekkidrevolution |
Monad said: fst said: No, the real reason we wear clothes is because the clothing CORPORATIONS have shamed us into it. Yes, it's an evil conspiracy. Clothes are trying to steal our souls. Let's all join "Nudist beach" and liberate ourselves. Glowing nipples required  |
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One day this fad (calling everything under the sun sexist) will die and the world will be a better place. |
| What about the current trend of homosexual undertones in anime (sports anime in particular) to pander to fucking fujoshis? Sexist. |
Fox814 said: Sexualized males isn't objectification or sexist, because it's a male power fantasy!!What about the current trend of homosexual undertones in anime (sports anime in particular) to pander to fucking fujoshis? Sexist. NSFW[spoiler] http://i.4cdn.org/y/1402232786069.png |
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Sapewloth said: I'm a straight male and that's offensiveMonad said: Yes, it's an evil conspiracy. Clothes are trying to steal our souls. Let's all join "Nudist beach" and liberate ourselves. Glowing nipples required |
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Red_Keys said: Fox814 said: Sexualized males isn't objectification or sexist, because it's a male power fantasy!!What about the current trend of homosexual undertones in anime (sports anime in particular) to pander to fucking fujoshis? Sexist. NSFW[spoiler] http://i.4cdn.org/y/1402232786069.png Eva 3.5: I Can Not Unsee Korrvo said: I'm a straight male and that's offensive I'm with Korrvo on this one. Let's go to tumblr and whine. |
Fox814 said: What about the current trend of homosexual undertones in anime (sports anime in particular) to pander to fucking fujoshis? Sexist. Not sure if serious or.. |
mayukachan said: MAL Anime Discussion subforum rule n°1 : everything is sarcasm until proven otherwise.Fox814 said: What about the current trend of homosexual undertones in anime (sports anime in particular) to pander to fucking fujoshis? Sexist. Not sure if serious or.. |
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Red_Keys said: Fox814 said: Sexualized males isn't objectification or sexist, because it's a male power fantasy!!What about the current trend of homosexual undertones in anime (sports anime in particular) to pander to fucking fujoshis? Sexist. NSFW Those scrotums are way too smooth |
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DerpHole said: They're on a swim team. Obviously they shave everything.Red_Keys said: Sexualized males isn't objectification or sexist, because it's a male power fantasy!! NSFW Those scrotums are way too smooth |
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Red_Keys said: DerpHole said: They're on a swim team. Obviously they shave everything.Those scrotums are way too smooth Well yeah I get why there's no hair but there's not a single wrinkle on them either. I guess ball ironing must've made its way over to Japan or something. |
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Red_Keys said: They must use some kind of cream to even make it that smooth.DerpHole said: They're on a swim team. Obviously they shave everything.Those scrotums are way too smooth |
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Fox814 said: What about the current trend of homosexual undertones in anime (sports anime in particular) to pander to fucking fujoshis? Sexist. I don't know, I only watch het and yuri. I dropped sakura cardcaptor cause of male homosexuality. So I wouldn't know |
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