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Dec 23, 2014 5:20 AM

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Zymf said:
I don't know :/ - Maybe we should just let them live untill they have been confirmed to be one thing or the other?


And how can we do that?
The problem is that it's almost impossible to confirm roles in a no-reveal game. Even after DoubleC's death we won't know with absolute certainty that DoubleC was mafia.
I'm sure there're a lot of investigative roles in this game to counterbalance this, but if they are not trusted by the other players, the town will lose in the long run.

So, you're right, we need to confirm a few villagers. I wonder what Soren's ability is like... if he has investigated someone, he should tell us. Because he's the only confirmed villager right now. If he can confirm someone else we can build on that.

But I really don't think we should lynch someone else instead of CC, what would that accomplish? CC won't be revealed as being mafia after his death.

Dec 23, 2014 5:24 AM

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Zurel said:
But why LoveandHate instead of some other inactives?
No real reason, I just looked at the vote count and took the one we knew nothing about...
Dec 23, 2014 5:25 AM

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Zymf said:
Vote count:
DoubleC - 10 (grave_robber, Coromandel, Gentaro_Kisaragi, Soren333, X_at_home, Jackrito, Sonatta, xanic, Brynhildr, Flopsbian)
Mikiuza - 1 (MrSantaeye)
Soren333 - 1 (DoubleC)
LoveandHate91- 2 (Byon-kun, Zymf)
Sonatta - 1 (Mikiuza)

Roleclaims
DoubleC - Deputy and Lover
MrSantaEye - Lover
grave_robber - Some kind of investigator
coromandel - Some kind of investigator
Mikiuza - Doctor
[i]... Please add to the list, because I'm sure I forgot some
[/i]

Let me see.

Day one, Mikiuza, PandaCake, DatNeonPanda, and Sonatta claimed doctor.
Night one, NeonPanda and Mikiuza claimed doctor again. Miki taunted mafia to come get him.
Day two, Miki continued with doctor claim and taunting. Sonatta pulled back his claim, said he was just joking the first day, and now got scared seeing how mafia targetted doctor claimers.
Dec 23, 2014 5:26 AM

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So now zymf is defending CC and getting people to change their vote. Yo zymf, What is your alignment? :)

Btw, how would letting the mafia kill the alleged lovers give you information on myself, coromandel or anyone else for that matter? We have 4 investigative role claims (cop, watcher...etc) but are they really true claims, are these roles town-aligned? You can't trust any of it.

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Roleclaims
DoubleC - Deputy and Lover
MrSantaEye - Lover
grave_robber - Some kind of investigator
coromandel - Some kind of investigator
Mikiuza - Doctor/ important town role(several times)
added by grave
Crowlage - Some kind of investigator
Byon-kun - Some kind of investigator
DatNeonPanda - Doctor (twice that I know of)
PandaCake - Doctor (once)


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Dec 23, 2014 5:29 AM

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coromandel said:
Zymf said:
I don't know :/ - Maybe we should just let them live untill they have been confirmed to be one thing or the other?


And how can we do that?
The problem is that it's almost impossible to confirm roles in a no-reveal game. Even after DoubleC's death we won't know with absolute certainty that DoubleC was mafia.
I'm sure there're a lot of investigative roles in this game to counterbalance this, but if they are not trusted by the other players, the town will lose in the long run.

So, you're right, we need to confirm a few villagers. I wonder what Soren's ability is like... if he has investigated someone, he should tell us. Because he's the only confirmed villager right now. If he can confirm someone else we can build on that.

But I really don't think we should lynch someone else instead of CC, what would that accomplish? CC won't be revealed as being mafia after his death.


But innocent child is powerless. His main 'power' is only that he is townie.
Dec 23, 2014 5:32 AM

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(vote: loveandhate91

votes
DoubleC - 10 (grave_robber, Coromandel, Gentaro_Kisaragi, Soren333, X_at_home, Jackrito, Sonatta, xanic, Brynhildr, Flopsbian)
Soren333 - 1 (DoubleC)
LoveandHate91- 4 (Byon-kun, Zymf, MrSantaeye, turtlebandit)
Sonatta - 1 (Mikiuza)

Roleclaims
DoubleC - Deputy and Lover
MrSantaEye - Lover
grave_robber - Some kind of investigator
coromandel - Some kind of investigator
Mikiuza - Doctor
... Please add to the list, because I'm sure I forgot some
Dec 23, 2014 5:32 AM

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Yes, what coromandel is right, if we can investigate some of the players, but we cannot really confirm anything since it's a no reveal game, the only thing we can do is try to cooperate.

When night comes, I think I will reveal my role, I have a bad feeling about tonight, I just want suzune-chan to be able to speak so we can get her analysis of the situation.

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Dec 23, 2014 5:33 AM

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Look @ that vote people, CC voted for the innocent child instead of me, why? Why would any townie vote against the only confirmed townie? Think about it!

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Dec 23, 2014 5:39 AM

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@grave: It's not because I'm that that much against lynching CC... I'm like 40% pro and 60% against :P

I know this might sound a bit controversial, but all those claiming investigator might actually just be a bunch mafia "confirming" eachother
Dec 23, 2014 6:03 AM

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Zymf said:
I know this might sound a bit controversial, but all those claiming investigator might actually just be a bunch mafia "confirming" eachother


You're right, that's possible. And your reasoning would make perfect sense for a "normal" mafia game, where role and alignment of a player are revealed after death. But in this game, we need to come to terms with the fact that no one can be confirmed townie/mafia. We *have* to trust each other because roles aren't revealed. Lynching should be done after as much information as possible is gathered to find potential mafia members. In this game, the amount of information we get is limited (no reveal). Investigators have access to more information than the other townies, and therefore are essential for the town to win. If we don't use their abilites/trust them, we are limiting our possibilites.

The alternative - not trusting ppl who claim to be investigators - would force us to vote for someone at random, and that isn't a good strategy IMO.

Dec 23, 2014 6:17 AM

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grave_robber said:
Look @ that vote people, CC voted for the innocent child instead of me, why? Why would any townie vote against the only confirmed townie? Think about it!

I was already doomed ;-;
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Dec 23, 2014 6:28 AM

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Why is LoveandHate being voted for?
Dec 23, 2014 6:39 AM

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This is us on vacation, sadly John was not in the frame.

Dec 23, 2014 6:44 AM

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DatNeonPanda said:
Why is LoveandHate being voted for?


Zymf strategies ...


MrSantaEye said:
This is us on vacation, sadly John was not in the frame.



You just deserve to die ! >.<
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Dec 23, 2014 6:44 AM

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Why is my vote ignored?
Dec 23, 2014 6:48 AM

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Not a big deal. Maybe noone noticed.

Votes:
DoubleC - 11 (grave_robber, Coromandel, Gentaro_Kisaragi, Soren333, X_at_home, Jackrito, Sonatta, xanic, Brynhildr, Flopsbian, Crazy_Cofee)
LoveandHate91 - 5 (Byon-kun, Zymf, MrSantaeye, turtlebandit, CC)
Sonatta - 1 (Mikiuza)
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Dec 23, 2014 6:52 AM

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Brynhildr said:
Not a big deal. Maybe noone noticed.

Votes:
DoubleC - 11 (grave_robber, Coromandel, Gentaro_Kisaragi, Soren333, X_at_home, Jackrito, Sonatta, xanic, Brynhildr, Flopsbian, Crazy_Cofee)
LoveandHate91 - 5 (Byon-kun, Zymf, MrSantaeye, turtlebandit, CC)
Sonatta - 1 (Mikiuza)


No, it is a big deal. Okay? It is a big deal.

Dec 23, 2014 7:05 AM
*hug noises*

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Crazy_Cofee_Cat said:
Why is my vote ignored?
You're like Akari
Dec 23, 2014 7:07 AM

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HaXXspetten said:
Crazy_Cofee_Cat said:
Why is my vote ignored?
You're like Akari


What are you implying by that >_<
Dec 23, 2014 7:07 AM

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DatNeonPanda said:
Brynhildr said:
Not a big deal. Maybe noone noticed.

Votes:
DoubleC - 11 (grave_robber, Coromandel, Gentaro_Kisaragi, Soren333, X_at_home, Jackrito, Sonatta, xanic, Brynhildr, Flopsbian, Crazy_Cofee)
LoveandHate91 - 5 (Byon-kun, Zymf, MrSantaeye, turtlebandit, CC)
Sonatta - 1 (Mikiuza)


No, it is a big deal. Okay? It is a big deal.



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Dec 23, 2014 7:11 AM
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Crazy_Cofee_Cat said:
HaXXspetten said:
You're like Akari


What are you implying by that >_<

Dec 23, 2014 7:13 AM

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HaXXspetten said:
Crazy_Cofee_Cat said:


What are you implying by that >_<



Naruhodo.
Dec 23, 2014 8:15 AM

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grave_robber said:
Zymf said:


Roleclaims
DoubleC - Deputy and Lover
MrSantaEye - Lover
grave_robber - Some kind of investigator
coromandel - Some kind of investigator
Mikiuza - Doctor/ important town role(several times)
added by grave
Crowlage - Some kind of investigator
Byon-kun - Some kind of investigator
DatNeonPanda - Doctor (twice that I know of)
PandaCake - Doctor (once)



I'm pretty sure there were 4 Doctors and not 3.
Dec 23, 2014 8:23 AM

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DatNeonPanda said:
grave_robber said:


I'm pretty sure there were 4 Doctors and not 3.


Yes, someone got it right with more details, sonatta (spelling?) apparently claimed doctor too, on day 1 I think. It's a joke they have in SOLC, 6 or 7 people claim doctor on day 1 (I wouldn't take it so seriously).

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Dec 23, 2014 8:27 AM

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Sonatta took back his doctor claim. Said he was just joking the first day, but now got scared when he saw doctor claimer got killed by mafia.
Dec 23, 2014 8:28 AM

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Thy Cupid, why has thou forsaken us? Has I not entertained thee? Are we not worthy of life? Answer under the true moon, or thou shall commit unjust murder. Hear my cries!
Dec 23, 2014 8:31 AM

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DoubleC said:
Thy Cupid, why has thou forsaken us? Has I not entertained thee? Are we not worthy of life? Answer under the true moon, or thou shall commit unjust murder. Hear my cries!


The best love story is the tragic one. Go be Romeo and Juliet, R.I.P
Dec 23, 2014 8:32 AM

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Is trolling a trend here? We had turtle yesterday, and today these lovers. What will tomorrow bring...
Dec 23, 2014 8:36 AM

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Zurel said:
Is trolling a trend here? We had turtle yesterday, and today these lovers. What will tomorrow bring...

Trolling? I'm offended... what I'm doing is attempting to appeal to the emotions of the cold-hearted murders voters so they may reconsider their horrible mistake of voting for me.
Dec 23, 2014 8:41 AM

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CC, you are so dramatic. I should become your fan.

Not going to save your skin though. I still see a betrayal to town as what it is.
Dec 23, 2014 8:45 AM

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DoubleC said:
Thy Cupid, why has thou forsaken us? Has I not entertained thee? Are we not worthy of life? Answer under the true moon, or thou shall commit unjust murder. Hear my cries!
:'(
Dec 23, 2014 8:45 AM

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Good Job at entertaining us, CC. But until someone Claims cupid you are still gonna get lynched. At least let Santa tell us his role, than I will reconsider my vote.

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Dec 23, 2014 9:03 AM

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Our village has forsaken us thine fleeting warm hand is all I have left. my love, I ask of thee, villagers, art thou happy?
Dec 23, 2014 9:18 AM

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MrSantaEye said:
Our village has forsaken us thine fleeting warm hand is all I have left. my love, I ask of thee, villagers, art thou happy?


Reveal yourself and your love shall be freed of the shackles of death.

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Dec 23, 2014 9:30 AM

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Doubt we can be saved now, but I am the Miller
Dec 23, 2014 9:36 AM

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Can we get links on the first post that directs us to each phase change post please
Dec 23, 2014 10:25 AM

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MrSantaEye said:
Doubt we can be saved now, but I am the Miller


If that's true, RIP, such a tragic tale.

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Dec 23, 2014 10:26 AM

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MrSantaEye said:
Doubt we can be saved now, but I am the Miller

Very cute, the miller? You mean to tell us that you have the only role that shows up as anti-town to investigation when the player is really a townie? you must be trying to save yourself now that CC's going to be lynched. Don't worry , you'll be next and then the other suspects who defended you and tried to get players to vote for someone else.

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Dec 23, 2014 10:28 AM

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grave_robber said:
MrSantaEye said:
Doubt we can be saved now, but I am the Miller

Very cute, the miller? You mean to tell us that you have the only role that shows up as anti-town to investigation when the player is really a townie? you must be trying to save yourself now that CC's going to be lynched. Don't worry , you'll be next and then the other suspects who defended you and tried to get players to vote for someone else.


Well said. :D

Dec 23, 2014 10:37 AM

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[center]Night Phase Two

CC has been lynched
Mr Hawkeye has died as a result

those with night roles please message asu
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Asu you're still a fragile flower... But its ok cause you're a beautiful flower!

花火花火花火 :D:D:D
Dec 23, 2014 10:38 AM

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It's still day phase one.
Weird
Dec 23, 2014 10:41 AM

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RIP Hawk-chan 12/23/14
RIP CC 12/23/14
Dec 23, 2014 10:43 AM

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Well, that's 1 mafia down. If Hawkeye really is a townie and not also mafia then asu, that was mean! Don't be like haxx nii-chan!

Worst Case Scenario: 1 mafia dead and 1 townie dead
Best Case Scenario: 2 mafia are now dead

A lot of people gave me things to check out tonight, you better pray I die or get role blocked mafia, I'm coming after you! ^^

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Dec 23, 2014 10:45 AM

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DoubleC said:

RIP Hawk-chan 12/23/14
RIP CC 12/23/14


I have a place in my heart for you two, right besides panda. You will always be remembered.
Dec 23, 2014 10:50 AM

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grave_robber said:
Well, that's 1 mafia down. If Hawkeye really is a townie and not also mafia then asu, that was mean! Don't be like haxx nii-chan!

Worst Case Scenario: 1 mafia dead and 1 townie dead
Best Case Scenario: 2 mafia are now dead

A lot of people gave me things to check out tonight, you better pray I die or get role blocked mafia, I'm coming after you! ^^


Worst case scenario is you investigated a Miller and blamed him for being Mafia, or even worse, you made everything up.
Dec 23, 2014 10:55 AM

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This one goes out to my dead bae.

Dec 23, 2014 10:58 AM

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RIP Lovers ;_;
Oh well, I hope grave didn't lie. She vowed on telling the truth after all :c

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Dec 23, 2014 10:59 AM

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DatNeonPanda said:
grave_robber said:
Well, that's 1 mafia down. If Hawkeye really is a townie and not also mafia then asu, that was mean! Don't be like haxx nii-chan!

Worst Case Scenario: 1 mafia dead and 1 townie dead
Best Case Scenario: 2 mafia are now dead

A lot of people gave me things to check out tonight, you better pray I die or get role blocked mafia, I'm coming after you! ^^


Worst case scenario is you investigated a Miller and blamed him for being Mafia, or even worse, you made everything up.

like I said, I'm not a cop, I don't investigate that way, Hakweye said he was the miller not CC, I checked CC. and you're a big bad mafioso and I'm gonna wait for you to mess up or maybe the cop will investigate you tonight, that would be a good start. :)

Tell me Panda, What is your role? Are you mafia or a townie?

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Dec 23, 2014 11:04 AM

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x_at_home said:
RIP Lovers ;_;
Oh well, I hope grave didn't lie. She vowed on telling the truth after all :c

I bet the next 3 games, you know how pissed I'd be if they both turn up townies @ game end? Asunyan would have some explaining to do.

Anyhow, if the doc doesn't protect me, I'd probably die. but even so, I still took down a mafioso! =D
I will list my suspects now

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Dec 23, 2014 11:04 AM

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x_at_home said:
RIP Lovers ;_;
Oh well, I hope grave didn't lie. She vowed on telling the truth after all :c


I doubt that. Whenever you ask for more information grave gets defensive and starts asking for your role/alignment.
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