Why are you still a virgin?

Thrashinuva said:
Love is hardly going to kill you, even though you might feel like dying.

If you're happy without it, I guess that's fine. I'm always looking for it though. And even though it felt impossible I'm even talking to a girl now that I'm interested in, and I've started to like her more than my ex.

Though to me there are two different scales. Like, and love. I like this other girl more, but the love is still pretty low. Whereas I'm piss at my ex and I dislike everything about her right now, but I still am pretty much madly in love with her.

Thrashinuva said:
My condolonces to Thrashinuva and mew91.

Remember that to get over that broken heart you have to watch a looooot of Animes ^.^

Also: Virginity is one of the perks of being an Otaku...

iNaruX said:
Sorry if I made it sound like you were dead...I just used the literal translation of "Mitleid" from German to English :( -> that's "condolences" x)

Hentaicheg said:

I guess after all my first sentence was most on topic one. It's easy to lose virginity, but there's just no point, since it involves either losing money or/and huge amounts of time, which I better spend on simply fapping I guess.
I am trying to do everything 100% efficiently, no matter what I do, and that involves the sexual part - if someone would just come and tell to have sex without relations for free, I would of course agree, but let's be realists, for sex you either pay or pretend you have something humans tend to call 'love' towards person for some time.

But as realist as I am - the most efficient way to relax sexually was to fap, and I don't think it will change, but who knows, the older you get, the more you change, so maybe sometimes I will forget about trying to do all perfectly and will simply try to make a family, but currently, I find it pointless, I didn't see anything worth living for so far, or at least I doubt someone would want to live through the same life I did while growing up, so relations is out of question, since long time ones involve getting a kid big time...

Well, now that's a big chunk of text, I will stop there.

Thrashinuva said:
I'm honestly bummed over every aspect of it. She was my best friend, my childhood friend, the one who knew me the best. Even not having a relationship I want to be friends with her. Unfortunately if I talk to her, I'll fall for her again (I always do). It'll be just that much more painful for me, and I'll never be able to let go.

I've come under the realization that she's never really understood me. She knows me, and she knows what I'm going to do before I do it. But having said that she never seems to have ever trusted me, and she never took the time to get to know me. You'd think after all this time she'd know everything about me, but I feel like a recent friend of mine has learned more about me in 1 month than she has in 10 years. And this friend of mine knows me better in ways, because they actually trust me, so when I tell them my intentions, they realize what kind of person I actually am, instead of suspecting me or doubting me.

I guess I fell in love with the devil of relationships. Someone who can't ever take anyone seriously, who can't take her future seriously. She probably genuinely wants to be single for the rest of her life, while I've always wanted to just hold on to one person for the rest of my life. I knew it before, but I had believed she had changed.

mew91 said:

Wow, that reminded me of this girl I fell in love with and went through the exact thing as you for 6 years. It totally burned everything inside of me (and eventually made me the sour grape when it comes to love and relationships).

Although it was a long-distance friendship, we shared everything together as though we were just neighbours. I had to deal with her rejecting my feelings during those years and witnessing all the 3 relationships she had from start to end. As the usual hopeless person was I, I held on to my feelings like an idiot as if my life depended on it. Maybe it was because she was all I had back then? I was quite the depressive sociopath during that time. Of course, anyone can call someone stupid for holding on? I was that kind of person.

And I have to admit I do miss her sometimes, wondering how is she doing and the likes. But after having going through that, I started stunning everything that has to do with relationships. How bad? To the extent I would mock at every couple showing affection, especially those who just broke up, believing that things would just never work out. Yeah, I know it's just stupid and ignorant of me.

Maybe it's my fault for giving up? Maybe. But who wants to go through all that hurt? And to my own amusement, being affectionate with a 2D girl made me a lot happier. How hopeless is that?

Anyway, I apologize if I sound like I'm ranting in this reply. Haha. ^^"

Agnostos said:
I've also reached a point where relationships are of very low priority to me, although that was the opposite when I was younger. I went through several romantic interests over the course of my teenage years, most of which were emotional rollercoasters which ended up with me becoming very jaded. There were also many times where girls were interested in me, but I wasn't interested in them.

And now I'm at the point where I probably don't have the emotional capacity to be in a relationship. Whereas once I had seemingly endless care for someone and I was a hopeless romantic, I now view everything from a very detached perspective, which would naturally turn off most people. I've also come to an ultimatum where if a girl doesn't go out of her way for me, then I'm not going to go out of my way for her. Just isn't worth the effort.

Thrashinuva said:
Who cares about controversy.

MorsPulchra said:

Okay, then to my original post I suppose, but don't say I didn't warn you...

Why am I a virgin?

MorsPulchra said:

Okay, then to my original post I suppose, but don't say I didn't warn you...

Why am I a virgin?

Thrashinuva said:

That's more like it. Can't say I totally disagree with you either. Your views, no matter what they are, are always welcome where I come from. So long as they are true, and if you act on them, they are not destructive.

And honestly I can sympathize to a large degree.

Shiratori99 said:


Do you see yourself as morally superior or do you think your life is worthless too?

MorsPulchra said:


Subjectively; I think of myself as a bit more psychologically/mentally evolved than most people, but objectively; that doesn't make my life worth anymore than theirs.

Marhuto said:

Oh... I have A LOT of sisters... so I know how you ladies think. xD

Shiratori99 said:


I see, so you're essentially a misanthrope? Do you think other species (animals) are better than humans?

I'm kinda a philanthrope btw.

Thrashinuva said:




I'm actually curious to this as well. Mostly because I've felt the same way (like people can't compare to me emotionally).

MorsPulchra said:

And Trashinuva I'll ask you a few questions;
Would you describe yourself as an Introvert?
Would you say that you are superior to others?
Would you say that you are not emotional or find it hard to feel emotions?
Would you say you avoid human contact out of fear of rejection? Mistrust? Hatred? Or Disinterest?

Thrashinuva said:

1. I am definitely an introvert
2. I don't think I'm superior to others
3. I would say I'm much more emotional than most people
4. I generally trust people, and I love humanity. I believe the best way to improve my outlook on life is through others, so I don't think any of those things apply to me. I think I avoid people because I'm just so different from everyone else, and I'm disappointed by those who've given in to drugs and alcohol (peer pressure).

I also believe that an objects worth is only what we assign it, however knowing that I still freely assign it that value. I dictate "Good" and "Bad" with my own moral beliefs and hold those beliefs higher than others', and know all the while that's exactly what I'm doing. I don't think it's wrong, though I don't know if it's right. I know that everyone has their own way of living, their own happiness, and their own perfect outcomes. In terms of success, as well, many others have achieved that long before I.

I naturally understand things, I always have. I've always labeled myself "Jack of all trades, master of none", because I pick things up easily and quickly most of the time, though I never stay interested long enough to master anything. It's nice to be good at things though it sucks to not be the best at anything. What also sucks is that I feel like an outcast somewhat, I don't easily find people who have that level of understanding of new or complicated concepts.

MorsPulchra said:

I suppose I am a bit of a misanthrope, but it's only because of the way the majority of human's act, and it is not my fault for coming to a disdain and disgust towards them, it was only logical cognitive reponse. That being said I still don't think "misanthrope" would be the most accurate word representation, I suppose Utilitarian, Evolutionist or Nihilist would fit the bill a bit more nicely. I believe the only value an action/object/organism possesses is the one you choose to assign to it in your mind. In other words, I think in terms of "Fact" or "Fiction" rather than "Good" or "Bad".

MorsPulchra said:
As for dictating whether something is "good" or "bad" I do, do it, but in my case I see things in terms of "good and bad" rather or.

Shiratori99 said:


So you find it hard to feel positive emotions towards others and that's why you think of their life as useless? What exactly do you hate of the behavior of humans?

To be honest, I am disgusted by many other people too, but viewing myself as a positive example I don't think humanity as a whole can be that bad. After all, it produced me and I want to believe that there are more people like me out there. As you can see, I at least like myself :P

Since values like good or bad only exist within the human mind it seems reasonable to assume there is no absolute value of things. Subjectively however, there is. I think that what's important after all is not the objective reality (if that even exists) but our subjective perception of it.

Thrashinuva said:

I do this too.

Being different leads to more diverse results resulting in a much greater chance of success in humanity. However being different leads to many of us being outcast and resulting in many of us being unhappy. Being alone lets me do whatever I want but makes me lonely. A theft may cost you, but will help you figure out what to pay attention to and who your friends really are.

SPOILERS Just as in Code Geass and Death Note, Lelouch and Kira murdered thousands of people but in the end created a more unified world through the hate and fear of one person (in Death Note not as much).

Humanity isn't bad totally. If everyone were thieves and backstabbers, we'd all be dead. If everyone looked out only for themselves we'd all be dead. I don't really find any special meaning in my birth, it wasn't a blessing to humanity or a symbol of humanities worth. However I'm positive I'll die in the end an example to others to how a person can live to be a good person, it's not all about looking out for yourself. The fact that we're here shows humanities own worth.

We've evolved as a species on our own. Not a physical evolution, but a societal and mental evolution. We've gone from straw huts to electronic information. From caves to outer space. All in a relatively short amount of time. From word of mouth to e-mail. We've done this on our own, without the help of others. We've made huge accomplishments that we merely regard as old news, and we continue to strive for more. That... to me that is beautiful.

When I think about these things, relationships feel kinda silly and blown out of proportion.

MorsPulchra said:
Due to the length of response, I am putting it in a spoiler tab:

Thrashinuva said:

The reality is that if humanity was only full of terrible people and ambitions, then we'd all be extinct by now. No matter how you reason it out, that's the truth. Just as if someone were to preach of humanities glorious ways, there's still poverty and discrimination in the mix, and there's no denying that either.

If you can look at the good and bad, then just look at the media you view. We can even use Code Geass as a perfect example. On one side, we'll call it the bad side, you have an animation company/mangaka trying to make money and further a luxurious lifestyle by using others emotions. On the flip side, you have the creator of Lelouch, someone who's thoughts ventured into the same realm as you. "Would it work? Is that what's necessary?" I don't think the creator came up with this ideas by thinking only of himself.

When someone is in front of me I have three trains of thought:
1. This person is selfish and greedy or morally corrupt, only concerned for themselves
2. This person is easily manipulated and has no real idea of what's going on around them
3. This person is genuinely good and looks out for others

I couldn't really tell you which one is true at any given time. But as I work in a convenience store I meet a lot of various people. There are plenty from group 1, and there are plenty from group 2, but there are also plenty from group 3. And the thing about group 3 is that a lot of those people are quiet people, with problems, some of which are things like difficulty socializing, or no confidence.

You would not believe how many times you can find someone who raves about things you think are terrible, and then you talk to them and they open up and you find out they feel exactly how you do, but they were afraid of not being accepted. Now that just goes to show there's a lot of oppression as well. But when there's oppression, there are people to be oppressed.

Thrashinuva said:

I can't say I feel I accomplished much with this post. But I hope it at least did something.

Thrashinuva said:
I read video game text and subtitles :P[/qoute]

Nice try! lol



Perhaps I do, but people rarely, if ever surprise me.


Exactly, and that's why unlike the old, I don't look to the past for happiness, and unlike the young, I realize there is more to life than, "The here and now." It could be said that all three states of time, happen so fast, that the line between them can be blurred and forgotten too easily, which is why many people act without fearing the consequence, or fail to act because of the thought of the consequence. It's rather pathetic, when I think about it.

The number of people who think about the future of our species, let alone their own, is so miniscule compared to the people who don't think at all, or over think things to the point of insanity. It seems these days, if somebody is intelligent enough to think about the future and the actions to get to that future, are going down a very self-centered path leading to lives of pseudo-happiness, ending in tragedy and regret.



"Try your best in everything and expect the worst, you'll never be disappointed, and always have the courage to try again." Is my little motto I suppose. Economies should be a thing of the past, there is too many people and to much monopoly over commodities, for people to be given a fair chance at; "the pursuit of happiness." I hate outsourcing to, only idiots and CEO's think it's a good thing. I have seen the price of manufacturing products go down %1000 in the past 5 years, and yet we pay a %1000 more for those items. (When I used to work at the Mr.Lube oil changers, I was a manager for a bit, and let me tell you, if you go to one of those places you are getting ripped off, though you probably already knew that. lol



Immediately following Highschool, I gave up my life of "sin", for lack of a better word, for a bit to help people with their emotional/mental problems, though I was able to help a few people overcome the tragedies they felt they had endured and the resulting depression they felt because of it. I got discouraged by not only the amount of time and resistance people put up, but also by the disturbing amount of self-inflicted mental trauma and their mental weakness to come to terms with who they are and what they really desire.



I know right, it's a pretty sweet gig, not like I get to sit there and read all day, but I get to be in a quite space surrounded by the treasures of the world.

Thrashinuva said:
I often realize my concept of time seems to be different from most. I said something alike to thinking of the future... but my reality is a little different. In my mind, what currently exists is the past, the present, and the future. When I look at a friend, I see everything they were, everything they aspire to be or are leading up to, and everything they are today. When I make decisions, I'm thinking about what I want now, but that 5 year old version of me is speaking just as clear, and so is the 50 year old me.

Maybe this is why even when things bring me down, I still find a glimmer of happiness. I tend to make decisions I'm proud of as a whole. It really puzzles me when someone can just push something to the side they've lived their life for, or when 10 year friendships just suddenly are worth nothing. There's a few things that aren't as part of my life anymore. But they're really simple things, like yu-gi-oh cards and Bionicles. The biggest one would be my ambition to become a game designer, which went out the window after college.

I think my version of that motto is "Try your best in everything and expect the best. When you fail, hurt like hell then start over." I go into thinks in preparation for all possibilities... most of the time. But I always shoot for the top. In my mind... anyways.

I'd love to work in a nice quiet place. With a lot of solitude.

MorsPulchra said:
Did you take game design in college, or did you choose something else?

Thrashinuva said:
Lol I wish that didn't make me sound lazy... especially since I totally am.

I have a lot of PC games on Steam but more than half of them I haven't even played. Unfortunately I'm not so into Fallout, I tried Fallout 3 I believe, and I got out of the beginning area and just kinda got bored. I don't deny it's a well made game, just not my cup of tea.

Did you ever play Mega Man on the NES? I found all of those games hard. I think the only one I ever beat legit was Mega Man 1 which is probably the easiest out of all of them, and maybe 3 which is my favorite. And yeah Ninja Gaiden, could only beat it by cheating. I haven't beaten Castlevania, haven't even tried. Dig Dug II, Xexyz, Wizards & Warriors, are just a few of the games that I consider playable while also being extremely difficult. Sure Dig Dug II starts out easy, but you keep playing and you will be so screwed.

Astros477 said:
Sorry to interrupt your conversation of replies MorsPulchra and Thrashinuva. But thought I* would reply on the topic. Though I* have to say you were discussing some deep stuff which I* quite enjoyed.

Only read if you're up for an essay.

MorsPulchra said:

That's quite a lot of Asterisks there Astroboy! Very clever little tool though, stopped and read it with a harsher pronunciation even when consciously trying not to, it was difficult to shake the desired flow of the phrasing.

Try to remember; the only thing to fear, is fear itself tovarishch... And with that in your mind you'll be able to do anything. As for not understanding "Love", personally I have noticed that it is not something everybody can 'feel', sure it's easy to grasp the 'concept' of what love really is, but actually knowing how to distinguish it from other emotions can be difficult because it is usually a emotion that plays with "secondary" emotions. (I.E: Anger; is what you would classify as a secondary emotion, usually caused from being emotionally injured). And then there are people with disorders or diseases in which they have "Blunted Affect"(Schizoids, Schizophrenics, Psychopaths, PTSD, Sociopathy, or really any Class 3 dissociative personality disorder). But once again I digress....

Welcome to the club! And no matter your reason you will always be treated as an equal around here!