Kuma said: Tevens said: how can you say sure?but it would give some profit to the industry if they made another season right ? considering that the anime and the source material is popular enough. declining for second season BD sales is almost always happened.. you can secure series succesful just simply first season is succesful... it even give producer higher risk... i don't think sane producer would take that.. ow. i never thought of that. i always thought, enough source material, popular enough could easly triggered second season and i thought it would be a profit for the industry. but i only thought about the souce material,etc and not thinking about the industry itself (?) well, finally i have the answer. thanks :D |
YizelTroMay 11, 2016 5:23 AM
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Tevens said: you can skimming trough thisKuma said: how can you say sure? declining for second season BD sales is almost always happened.. you can secure series succesful just simply first season is succesful... it even give producer higher risk... i don't think sane producer would take that.. ow. i never thought of that. i always thought, enough source material, popular enough could easly triggered second season and i thought it would be a profit for the industry. but i only thought about the souce material,etc and not thinking about the industry itself (?) well, finally i have the answer. thanks :D http://www.someanithing.com/series-data-quick-view for comparison first season and second season... |
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i mean, they didn't even care about the anime afterwards ? if that's the case, IMO, that is too cruel. it makes anime like money maker then, well even tho i have to admit it, it is a money maker. but at least care about what happened to the anime. they were like "this anime gave us enough money. let's go to the other project then" then just forget the anime even tho it's still possible to make another season. that's what i thought. |
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| Two big variables are missing in your calculations: Cost of producing and endeavor of all parts involved in the anime project. For the example of Madhouse. They really noticeable stopped doing sequel seasons after escaping bankruptcy by being bought by NTV. Is easy to understand that after that, they would not go to the extra costs and endeavors that sequel seasons mean. Not only by Madhouse new management, but the other stakeholders in Madhouse projects are less likely to want to undertake such a thing with that studio. Other studios and producers have management ideologies that take costs, endeavor and other things into account. |
| I think the anime of NGNL was a made to promote the LN. (A boost of 550% of the sales if i remember well) The fact that Madhouse chose to end the anime with the last scene of the last volume published at that time (the 6th one, skipping 3 volumes) meant that they didn't plan to go for a 2nd one. If they ever do a second season, I wonder how they will make up for how they mess up their ending. x) |
Tevens said: Kuma said: how can you say sure? declining for second season BD sales is almost always happened.. you can secure series succesful just simply first season is succesful... it even give producer higher risk... i don't think sane producer would take that.. ow. i never thought of that. i always thought, enough source material, popular enough could easly triggered second season and i thought it would be a profit for the industry. but i only thought about the souce material,etc and not thinking about the industry itself (?) well, finally i have the answer. thanks :D Minor thought for the reason why most Anime's don't get a second season: It might be that, unlikely as it may be in reality, the studio wants to adapt as many different stories as possible to reach out to more people. The more series they adapt, the more people know about their studio from the different genres and franchises which may check out any works they put out after or before. It is also more likely for them to strike it big if they just adapt multiple works instead of continuing previous ones. Of course, the reason they don't continue the big ones even despite their success is already covered, but this might be another minor reason. |
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LZW said: Tevens said: ow. i never thought of that. i always thought, enough source material, popular enough could easly triggered second season and i thought it would be a profit for the industry. but i only thought about the souce material,etc and not thinking about the industry itself (?) well, finally i have the answer. thanks :D Minor thought for the reason why most Anime's don't get a second season: It might be that, unlikely as it may be in reality, the studio wants to adapt as many different stories as possible to reach out to more people. The more series they adapt, the more people know about their studio from the different genres and franchises which may check out any works they put out after or before. It is also more likely for them to strike it big if they just adapt multiple works instead of continuing previous ones. Of course, the reason they don't continue the big ones even despite their success is already covered, but this might be another minor reason. so basically advertising their own studio at the same time while advertising the source material. yeah....it make sense. i kinda agree with that :D because it's possible for them to increase their budget/profit that way. i never thought about it that way too. |
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| @Tevens Anyway, for NGNL, now they should start to have enough material to make a new season, but the plot hole will still be there. :D (Did you read the LN yet?) I don't know if a studio is asking the editor of the source (manga/LN) to do an anime or if it's the other way. For Index, the last news I saw about it was this one. |
Djidji said: @Tevens Anyway, for NGNL, now they should start to have enough material to make a new season, but the plot hole will still be there. :D (Did you read the LN yet?) I don't know if a studio is asking the editor of the source (manga/LN) to do an anime or if it's the other way. For Index, the last news I saw about it was this one. Plot hole ? you mean the after-credit scene at the end of the final episode ? i don't know if that scene was in the LN or not but if it was really from the LN then i think there is no problem to make another season. they just need to adapt it into where they left in the first season :D. i haven't read the LN btw. too expensive in my country tho i already bought 2 of them, vol 3 and vol 4 :D "Index anime [season 3] is plausible, so please wait!!" if he said to wait, i will wait then :D thanks for the news according index btw :D i really hope staff will make it someday :D |
YizelTroMay 12, 2016 9:32 AM
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Tevens said: Plot hole ? you mean the after-credit scene at the end of the final episode ? i don't know if that scene was in the LN or not but if it was really from the LN then i think there is no problem to make another season. they just need to adapt it into where they left in the first season :D. i haven't read the LN btw. too expensive in my country tho i already bought 2 of them, vol 3 and vol 4 :D |
| Is it even that rare for Madhouse to create sequels? I mean, it's completely understandable for them to not do so since they want to make money. However, it's not like they never produced sequels (Beyblade, Hajime no Ippo: New Challenger/Rising, Diamond no Ace), even after them escaping bankruptcy (Chihayafuru 2, Kaiji: Hakairoku-hen). Moreover, it's not like it's confirmed that NGNL won't get a second season ever, it's only been two years. |
Djidji said: Tevens said: Plot hole ? you mean the after-credit scene at the end of the final episode ? i don't know if that scene was in the LN or not but if it was really from the LN then i think there is no problem to make another season. they just need to adapt it into where they left in the first season :D. i haven't read the LN btw. too expensive in my country tho i already bought 2 of them, vol 3 and vol 4 :D so they just need to adapt it until vol 6 right ? i mean, start from vol 4 because they ended it until vol 3. i think it's still possible to make another season. but that after-credit scene is like "go read the LN" kind of show. Oregairu season 2 for example. but i really hope to see another season. |
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Tacas said: Is it even that rare for Madhouse to create sequels? I mean, it's completely understandable for them to not do so since they want to make money. However, it's not like they never produced sequels (Beyblade, Hajime no Ippo: New Challenger/Rising, Diamond no Ace), even after them escaping bankruptcy (Chihayafuru 2, Kaiji: Hakairoku-hen). Moreover, it's not like it's confirmed that NGNL won't get a second season ever, it's only been two years. LOL, many people are focusing into madhouse. my question is not about madhouse aren't making any sequels right now. my question is : why sometimes anime industry didn't make sequel even tho there was enough source material and popular enough ? well, i already got an anwer for that tho :D NGNL and Index is just an example. |
YizelTroMay 12, 2016 10:18 AM
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Tevens said: so they just need to adapt it until vol 6 right ? i mean, start from vol 4 because they ended it until vol 3. i think it's still possible to make another season. but that after-credit scene is like "go read the LN" kind of show. Oregairu season 2 for example. but i really hope to see another season. Well, if they do that, they will end up once more with the same ending. xD |
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Djidji said: Tevens said: so they just need to adapt it until vol 6 right ? i mean, start from vol 4 because they ended it until vol 3. i think it's still possible to make another season. but that after-credit scene is like "go read the LN" kind of show. Oregairu season 2 for example. but i really hope to see another season. Well, if they do that, they will end up once more with the same ending. xD wut ?! really ?! XD so it means it will continue again LOL. now i want to know what do mean with the same ending, but i don't want to get spoiled XD don't tell me they aren't gonna make it because they are waiting so that they can adapt it into 24 episode (2 cour) ? that's possible right ? |
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| NGNL doesn't have a sequel because it has a source material. A ton of anime are made to promote the source material |
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Tevens said: wut ?! really ?! XD so it means it will continue again LOL. now i want to know what do mean with the same ending, but i don't want to get spoiled XD don't tell me they aren't gonna make it because they are waiting so that they can adapt it into 24 episode (2 cour) ? that's possible right ? If they wanna make a S2, a 2-cour might be better so that they can manage the pacing more easily. |
Tacas said: Is it even that rare for Madhouse to create sequels? I mean, it's completely understandable for them to not do so since they want to make money. However, it's not like they never produced sequels (Beyblade, Hajime no Ippo: New Challenger/Rising, Diamond no Ace), even after them escaping bankruptcy (Chihayafuru 2, Kaiji: Hakairoku-hen). Moreover, it's not like it's confirmed that NGNL won't get a second season ever, it's only been two years. They always did little, but since the bankruptcy it became more predominant. - Beyblade is from way before the bankrupcy and Madhouse only did the 1st season, the rest was from other studios. - Hajime no Ippo Rising was a cooperation with Mappa, and the rest was done before the bankrupcy, so the question is, will they ever do a continuation of Rising now? Also to note that the 2nd season(New Challenger) took 7 years to air. - Ace of Diamond is a 2nd season only in name, just like Dragon Ball Z. There was no break between season. I believe it only had a slight timeslot change, so they advertised as another season. Still Ace of Diamond was a cooperation with Production I.G. Kaiji 2nd season was almost certainly in the middle of development even during the bankrupcy so it would make no sense to just cancel it. Chihayafuru is the only Madhouse anime that came after the bankrupcy(2010), that got a 2nd season! At least is like that for now. Let's see if they change their ways in the future, I believe the author of One Punch man talked something about being interested in doing a 2nd season, though he isn't the person that decides if that is greenlit or not. So in conclusion, since 2010(7 years), Madhouse had 3 sequels and only 1 of those came from a series during that period of time. |
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targa said: NGNL doesn't have a sequel because it has a source material. A ton of anime are made to promote the source material An anime series is a project with various stakeholders. Each stakeholders have different interests in the project. One of them, the publisher, is the one interested in promoting the source material. The rest of the stakeholders don't earn much from that. So in conclusion, that isn't really accurate. Also continuing the anime promotes the source material way more than just doing 1 season. That is one reason why the most popular series have many seasons or are long running series. |
bigivelfhq said: lest not forgot that OPM anime is very close with original source, and murata is slow as fuck....At least is like that for now. Let's see if they change their ways in the future, I believe the author of One Punch man talked something about being interested in doing a 2nd season, though he isn't the person that decides if that is greenlit or not. |
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Kuma said: bigivelfhq said: lest not forgot that OPM anime is very close with original source, and murata is slow as fuck....At least is like that for now. Let's see if they change their ways in the future, I believe the author of One Punch man talked something about being interested in doing a 2nd season, though he isn't the person that decides if that is greenlit or not. But One is the author of the series and he is way in front of where Murata is. |
bigivelfhq said: it's just 2 arc in front of murata ( the second arc just finished in latest chapter) and i don't think they will overlap murata version... also note that one currently busy with mob psycho 100...Kuma said: lest not forgot that OPM anime is very close with original source, and murata is slow as fuck.... But One is the author of the series and he is way in front of where Murata is. |
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Tevens said: Like the title say. enough source material. enough budget. popular enough. but why they aren't gonna make another season ? Anime like that are having a sequel or will have a sequel. |
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