Shoujo_Q said: webkid94 said: Yeah, I wanna know if there's actual yaoi? That's been bugging me... Assuming they adapt it, yes, yes there is. Here's a chart of the sexual and romantic relationships amongst the main five characters. Naturally, it's a massive spoiler. Does anyone find it ironic that the only pairing with a mutual crush on each other don't do anything in this chart O_O |
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InfiniteDestiny said: Shoujo_Q said: webkid94 said: Yeah, I wanna know if there's actual yaoi? That's been bugging me... Assuming they adapt it, yes, yes there is. Here's a chart of the sexual and romantic relationships amongst the main five characters. Naturally, it's a massive spoiler. Does anyone find it ironic that the only pairing with a mutual crush on each other don't do anything in this chart O_O Quite. |
| Yeah these kids look way too young, my first impression makes me think around age 10-12. Isn't that a little too young to even desire sex, I mean these kids aren't even exposed to all the sex that weve seen in movies and tv so I find that highly unrealistic. It's really messed up how their sexualizing these young kids like that. I really hope they don't include that in this show, it would be better and more realistic for them to just develop strong bonds with each other. I'm quite enjoying this show so far so I hope it doesn't take a turn for the worse :P |
WyattEarp said: Yeah these kids look way too young, my first impression makes me think around age 10-12. Isn't that a little too young to even desire sex, I mean these kids aren't even exposed to all the sex that weve seen in movies and tv so I find that highly unrealistic. They are 12. Highly unrealistic?? Bear in mind that when civilization was not as advanced like the present age, marriage and sex took place when people reached their puberty (which could mean like 12/14). Anyway, the culture as in the anime world definitely has no problem whatsoever for such things to take place for people at that age. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
WyattEarp said: Yeah these kids look way too young, my first impression makes me think around age 10-12. Isn't that a little too young to even desire sex, I mean these kids aren't even exposed to all the sex that weve seen in movies and tv so I find that highly unrealistic. It's really messed up how their sexualizing these young kids like that. I really hope they don't include that in this show, it would be better and more realistic for them to just develop strong bonds with each other. I'm quite enjoying this show so far so I hope it doesn't take a turn for the worse :P Twelve isn't an unrealistic age for having sexual desires at all. That is around the time that most children hit puberty and start having raging hormones. Trust me. I went through three years of middle school surrounded by boys who didn't seem to have anything to talk about other than dirty stuff. |
| Do you know Oyashiro-sama? |
| Wasn't it more that 10-14 year old girls were married off to older men as they reached the age in which they were able to bear children? Either way even if they did have raging hormones they seem to hardly be able to get their feelings across to each other, let alone develop relationships that will lead into sex nevermind that crazy sex chart that was posted earlier lol. -KamioRika- said: WyattEarp said: Yeah these kids look way too young, my first impression makes me think around age 10-12. Isn't that a little too young to even desire sex, I mean these kids aren't even exposed to all the sex that weve seen in movies and tv so I find that highly unrealistic. It's really messed up how their sexualizing these young kids like that. I really hope they don't include that in this show, it would be better and more realistic for them to just develop strong bonds with each other. I'm quite enjoying this show so far so I hope it doesn't take a turn for the worse :P Twelve isn't an unrealistic age for having sexual desires at all. That is around the time that most children hit puberty and start having raging hormones. Trust me. I went through three years of middle school surrounded by boys who didn't seem to have anything to talk about other than dirty stuff. Well males go through puberty later then girls do that's a fact, if you didn't have raging hormones at that time then they definitely didn't, they were probably just trying to look big in front of their friends, which kids do a lot at that age. |
| gives in real life have sex and get pregnant at 12...........so its not that unrealistic. |
Shoujo_Q said: webkid94 said: Yeah, I wanna know if there's actual yaoi? That's been bugging me... Assuming they adapt it, yes, yes there is. Here's a chart of the sexual and romantic relationships amongst the main five characters. Naturally, it's a massive spoiler. now i so want to read the novel... |
BunnyKing said: gives in real life have sex and get pregnant at 12...........so its not that unrealistic. Well sure in our world, where kids are bombarded with the glorification of sex through movies, tv, and especially the internet. Plus even in our world it's still kinda rare for 12 year olds to have sex. In this all them have sex at least once despite the fact that they are not subjected to the media. Come on you don't think it's weird that a group of friends just all want to fuck each other? |
WyattEarp said: BunnyKing said: gives in real life have sex and get pregnant at 12...........so its not that unrealistic. Well sure in our world, where kids are bombarded with the glorification of sex through movies, tv, and especially the internet. Plus even in our world it's still kinda rare for 12 year olds to have sex. In this all them have sex at least once despite the fact that they are not subjected to the media. Come on you don't think it's weird that a group of friends just all want to fuck each other? It is weird, but it's also 1000 years into the future. The media may have nothing to do with it, but it's simply the cultural difference. People have already said that during this time, promiscuity, homosexuality, and sex at a young age were accepted. I think waiting and seeing how exactly it plays out would be the best thing to do. Not to mention the fact that there is apparently a time skip where they are 14. And 14 year olds have sex isn't uncommon. Also, at least where I live, most of the girls at my school hit puberty at around 10-11 and the boys at 12-13. So I wouldn't say that having sexual desires at 12 is weird. Most kids don't act upon those desires at that age, but they are still there. |
| Do you know Oyashiro-sama? |
| yeah but I still find it hard to believe, maybe the population of the human race is on the decline so the adults influence the kids to have more sex haha. I dunno thats the best I got to explain it. and yeah even though kids are starting to devolop those desires, they don't peak till later teens, I mean look at people in college, never have I met a hornier group of people lol. I hope they don't include it in the series, it seems like the author put it in because sex sells, or shes just a sex addict or something... |
| That chart was either made by troll or he/she got confused with manga and novel. The manga is full of yuri sex. Real Chart????: Beside that it doesn't look like there's any homo right now and later on episodes. I don't see it happened anytime. The only thing I'm seeing is that Shun might have feeling for Saki and Saki has a crush on him. |
AutumnDreamOct 16, 2012 9:35 PM
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AutumnDream said: That chart was either made by troll or he/she got confused with manga and novel. The manga is full of yuri sex. Real Chart????: Beside that it doesn't look like there's any homo right now and later on episodes. I don't see it happened anytime. The only thing I'm seeing is that Shun might have feeling for Saki and Saki has a crush on him. No its real, people who have read the novel has assured us in this very thread |
| The Art of Eight |
| As a reader of the original novel, I will tell you that No, the novel ultimately isn't yaoi/yuri, but there will be certain BL/GL elements and scenes depending on how A-1 Pictures will adapt. Let me explain in more detail. One of shinsekai's primary setting is the prohibition of premature romance between opposite sexes. That is, boys and girls must remain virgins until the age of 18. Homosexual behavior is rather common in their world. The novel does contain some explicit scenes of that. Here's an excerpt of the translated version  Narrated by Saki (now 14 years old), she is trailing Satoru and Shun holding hands walking together, and witnessing a kissing scene between them. The novel is long, the story will get far off, I don't want to spoil too much right now but let me warn you that it will get increasingly dark and extremely complicated (with the various conflicting forces). Yes there will be lots of twists (that I don't want to spoil there will be death among the main characteres), the story will progress till Saki is some 30 years old. No worries, the yaoi and yuri parts are only present during their childhood. It becomes BG (boy x girl) after that, for the eventual pairing and marriage. Romance isn't the most important theme of the novel, I personally wouldn't care whether they incorporate some explicit elements into the anime or not. But certainly, this show isn't for everyone, right now it seems pretty light but just wait til everything is revealed and the real plot starts. If you think you'll feel uncomfortable with some disturbing scenes, drop it now |
removed-userOct 17, 2012 6:08 AM
edwd2 said: As a reader of the original novel, I will tell you that No, the novel ultimately isn't yaoi/yuri, but there will be certain BL/GL elements and scenes depending on how A-1 Pictures will adapt. Let me explain in more detail. One of shinsekai's primary setting is the prohibition of premature romance between opposite sexes. That is, boys and girls must remain virgins until the age of 18. Homosexual behavior is rather common in their world. The novel does contain some explicit scenes of that. Here's an excerpt of the translated version Narrated by Saki (now 14 years old), she is trailing Satoru and Shun holding hands walking together, and witnessing a kissing scene between them. The novel is long, the story will get far off, I don't want to spoil too much right now but let me warn you that it will get increasingly dark and extremely complicated (with the various conflicting forces). Yes there will be lots of twists (that I don't want to spoil there will be death among the main characteres), the story will progress till Saki is some 30 years old. No worries, the yaoi and yuri parts are only present during their childhood. It becomes BG (boy x girl) after that, for the eventual pairing and marriage. Romance isn't the most important theme of the novel, I personally wouldn't care whether they incorporate some explicit elements into the anime or not. But certainly, this show isn't for everyone, right now it seems pretty light but just wait til everything is revealed and the real plot starts. If you think you'll feel uncomfortable with some disturbing scenes, drop it now They holds hands and kiss? So it's more than just sex, they (Satoru and Shun) do like each other, right? |
| MM THESE DELICIOUS SPOILERS. more moreeeee edwd2 said: deave112 said: And just out of curiosity... upon reading this one, my jaw literally dropped and stayed that way for a few seconds |
| i want more spoilers though... |
| Just glanced at that relationship chart. And I'm kind of...Shocked? Idk. Didn't expect this anime to be like this... Not gonna drop it. As long as yaoi or yuri doesn't become a main theme, I'll stick with it. |
walk said: MM THESE DELICIOUS SPOILERS. more moreeeee edwd2 said: deave112 said: And just out of curiosity... upon reading this one, my jaw literally dropped and stayed that way for a few seconds same here oh god why did i read it.. why.. |
| Where can I read the book translated in English now please I need to read it now |
BunnyKing said: Where can I read the book translated in English now please I need to read it now It hasn't been translated. It's over a thousand pages long. Aidoru Translations will be releasing a translation of the first two chapters; hopefully a US company will pick it up for a legit English release. |
| DEM SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!! |
aria93 said: DEM SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, it is in a thread titled "Novel Spoilers". You hardly have room to say you weren't expecting it. |
Shoujo_Q said: aria93 said: DEM SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, it is in a thread titled "Novel Spoilers". You hardly have room to say you weren't expecting it. Lol, I know that XD Is just that I posted here a few days ago but when I came here again today the spoilers were more!!! I would really like to read the novel.You said that the Aidoru translations will translate the first 2 chapters.Do you perhaps know when they will? |
AutumnDream said: That chart was either made by troll or he/she got confused with manga and novel. The manga is full of yuri sex. Are you saying you have read the novel?? Why are you so sure that the relationship is not in the novel? In fact the novel has yaoi sex/love that is absent in the manga. AutumnDream said: T Real Chart????: The source of the chart might be me as I posted that chart earlier in MAL and other places. One thing to note is that it is NOT for the novel, but about the anime. It is from a TV special introducing the anime, and my points of posting it are - The relations in the anime seem to be simpler than the ones in the novel as you can see fewer links between the characters - The text at the bottom said "FREEDOM - love between people of the same gender is commonplace". So the society in the world of Shinsekai yori clearly allows a sex culture that is not the same as our current world, be it homosexual love, promiscuity or sex for underaged people. Given how diverse human cultures are found around the world, I do not find it hard to believe that the human culture can come to be like this in far future. - While some in the west seem to be utterly flabbergasted by seeing the chart, remember the TV special was aired on Japan network TV, so apparently TV station in Japan did not think it was such a big deal discussing a novel with such elements. The thing is, I do not think the anime will depict sex and promiscuity as far as in the novel, but the anime chart above clearly shows that the anime staff are not going to avoid the issue at all. I'd expect some portrayal that hints at it but we will see full-blown depiction as in the novel. edwd2 said: So there is a Chinese translation of the novel? Is it official or fan translation? Is it complete? |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
aria93 said: I would really like to read the novel.You said that the Aidoru translations will translate the first 2 chapters.Do you perhaps know when they will? Well, speaking as the leader of Aidoru Translations, the initial translation work is done, but we have to edit it and get it all put together in a presentable fashion. |
Shoujo_Q said: aria93 said: I would really like to read the novel.You said that the Aidoru translations will translate the first 2 chapters.Do you perhaps know when they will? Well, speaking as the leader of Aidoru Translations, the initial translation work is done, but we have to edit it and get it all put together in a presentable fashion. Oh I didn't knew that you are the leader XD I see.I will be waiting for your chapters when you will release them :) Btw, it seems that someone reported the thread because all the posts that were out off topic don't exist anymore. |
edwd2 said: If you think you'll feel uncomfortable with some disturbing scenes, drop it now How graphic and disturbing are we talking? Spoilers obviously. |
Rick_BawseOct 18, 2012 8:12 PM
edwd2 said: deave112 said: And just out of curiosity... Why did I come here, and why on earth did I read this. After that first spoiler I was like Okay Idc for that and then it hit me with my Jaw dropping to the floor with the second spoiler. I didn't expect you to say |
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| Just wondering...does any character die |
LunaOct 19, 2012 11:19 PM
| The spoiler chart of relationships amongst the characters almost had my jaw dropped. Can someone tell me if there really is yuri in the novel? |
LunaOct 19, 2012 11:16 PM
deave112 said: vermillionapple said: Just wondering...does any character die Dude, SPOILERS! Sigh. I should stop clicking on these. You should of put his text in spoilers so I knew which one you were quoting. Welp. Oh well. Mod Edit: Fixed. |
LunaOct 19, 2012 11:19 PM
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deave112 said: vermillionapple said: Just wondering...does any character die Dude, SPOILERS! If thats the case then.... |
LunaOct 19, 2012 11:20 PM
| WHALP THERE GOES THE SERIES FOR ME. Oh, well, it was my fault! Stupid spoiler buttons! >.< So tempting! |
| Do you know Oyashiro-sama? |
-KamioRika- said: WHALP THERE GOES THE SERIES FOR ME. Oh, well, it was my fault! Stupid spoiler buttons! >.< So tempting! Well, you can still watch it all happen and enjoy it. UtsukushiiYume said: Oh well. I really want to read the novel now. Aidoru Translations is working on the first two chapters, plus a glossary of technical terms. Hopefully, someone will pick up the entire (1000+ pages) novel for a US release in English. |
| NO. WHY DID I CLICK THE BUTTONS. :A: Damn... well at least after watching episode 4 I understand how it has sexual stuff in it. |
| Rage quittingggg!!! I'm happy I read the spoilers, if I got surprised by it I would punch my screen. Wtf I still can't . |
Shoujo_Q said: -KamioRika- said: WHALP THERE GOES THE SERIES FOR ME. Oh, well, it was my fault! Stupid spoiler buttons! >.< So tempting! Well, you can still watch it all happen and enjoy it. UtsukushiiYume said: Oh well. I really want to read the novel now. Aidoru Translations is working on the first two chapters, plus a glossary of technical terms. Hopefully, someone will pick up the entire (1000+ pages) novel for a US release in English. I hope so. That would be great. But once I finish my self study in Japanese I suppose I'll just buy the Japan version XD |
edwd2 said: symbv said: So there is a Chinese translation of the novel? Is it official or fan translation? Is it complete? For the most part, complete, and its fan made, in chinese (traditional), so actually taiwan. There won't be any official until tw licenses them (very unlikely since all they release is SAO, Durarara, Kino no Tabi, Sakurasou novels etc.) Complete? That must be one gigantic effort by the fans.... I have been reading the Japanese original, but I would be interested to see the fan-made Chinese translation too. If you don't mind could you PM me a link of the source? |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
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