The Asterisk War (light novel)
Should his sister have sealed his powers?
| Should his sister have sealed his powers? *edit: changed the title* Mod Edit: Thread cleaned. Please stay on topic. If the thread is derailed again, it will be locked. |
shawnofthedeadzDec 5, 2015 6:22 PM
| I think the sister's powers were also sealed in the beginning of the first episode, I think she lost that flash back battle since she ran out of time. Tbh that seal is getting pretty annoying, but I'm sure there's a way to break it, probably when he knows when he wants to protect someone since that's what his sis said. |
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| If her power's were sealed then maybe I would have understood... After reading most of 7 light novels I don't remember anything positive about his sister aside from her being 'sorry' for sealing his powers.. 4 years later. the author never resolved or addressed this issue. I'm sorry.. but I did it for your sake really pisses me off. Harem or not.. Normal people get mad when their trusted family members maim them. |
semianonymousNov 28, 2015 6:16 PM
| so she decided to sentence him to a weak existence before he actually did anything to warrant it.. i'm sorry.. she's a bitch.. oh.. i'm sorry.. i'm going to amputate your arms and legs before you use them for evil... seriously.. seems kinda ridiculous. |
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ixarising said: If i'm not mistaken, she sealed Ayato's power to prevent people with evil intentions from trying to make use of Ayato. That sounds like the reasoning and plot line of the movie of "Misery" So you concede that his sister not only feels like he should feel intense pain his ENTIRE life.. but also should be so weak that he is ridiculed, abused, and possibly killed because ppl could make use of him... wow.. do you think its a good idea to maim someone's ability because he could be someone he is not... |
shawnofthedeadzDec 5, 2015 2:09 PM
| It's too late 2night for me make a valid argument.. but if I'm harmed because my POSSIBLE FUTURE abilities.. then I would rather fight against the person who is maiming me (MY SISTER).. then so called evil organization which may or may not harm me in the future.. |
Ryuutobi said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: The point remains, Ayato went around beating the bad kids even if it's for defending his sister. He's lucky because those kids happened to be genestellas as well. Otherwise he'd be in a serious trouble.No that didn't happen often as far as i remember but only mentioned once (and that happened because the kids insulted his sister) as seen from that flashback. So he punished "bad kids"... in 1 flashback 8 books are built upon a sister who sealed her brother's strength.. does that not seem outrageous to you.. at least to me it does.. I keep returning to this.. but his sister hurt him (the MC) more than any antagonist could have.. I would rather him fight against his sister than any psuedo-ranking tournament. And why did she create different levels of release of this seal.. Is she mocking him.. or hurting him on purpose... please destroy this sister. |
semianonymousNov 28, 2015 9:03 PM
| So we all agree that his sister is the biggest d-bag in the room... i honestly can't think of the bigger villain than her.. She "sealed" his powers on a whim.. added an extremely painful whiplash effect... laughed and went missing for years so he could suffer in silence... caused her brother immense pain over prime of his life.. honestly.. why?... why was this series created... what did the sister contribute.. who is the bad guy... My vote is the sister.. this was on of the most asinine characters in any light novel I've read and somehow it was made into a anime. I just don't get it.. She is worse than Shiba Tatsuya's parents I have not or will not read another light novel again due to these 2 light novel series... I can suspend my disbelief when someone can use magic or fly... but when they are purposely hurting their children or family I get angry... and probably illogical.. |
| Why the sister is crippled her own brother, just get another man to get crippled |
Ryuutobi said: semianonymous said: To let him learn to control his massive power little by little?And why did she create different levels of release of this seal.. Is she mocking him.. or hurting him on purpose... please destroy this sister. After all, if her purpose was to completely shut his power down, then there's no reason for her to set a certain condition to be the key to open a layer of the multileveled seal. She didn't even give him the 1 minute of power he has... he BROKE the first level of his sister's seal... She left him with nothing but a smile... My god I hope she doesn't survive. If you want to teach someone to walk don't cut off their feet because they are running too fast.. 8 light novels... seriously.. 8 light novels and the author never addresses the seal ever again.. nope.. never.. the author does however repeatedly describe how the MC is suffering because of a seal his d-bag of a sister set possibly.. maybe.. somehow.. for his own good If the god damn harem wasn't there this series would only be left with a sister maiming her brother for his own good.. She' s a sadist to the n-th level. |
semianonymousNov 29, 2015 5:25 AM
| Now I can see that you based your opinion on some mistakes. Ok first, see the image below.  That's a dental bracer. I need to show you that in order to break your first mistake that is "The seal hurts Ayato". That is wrong, because the seal doesn't hurt him. It's his own attempt to forcefully remove it that hurt him. It's basically like trying to remove a dental bracer on your own without the help of a dentist. You can not sue the dentist who set it if you get hurt in the process. Your second mistake is that "Ayato is weak in his sealed state". This has been proven wrong right at the start of the series when he dueled Julis without removing his seal. If he's really weak, then how was he able to survive a top ranked genestella who was seriously trying to kill him? In fact, he was actually winning but stopped in his path to victory due to an interference from a third party. Calling the sealed him who actually bested one of the bests in his generation as weak is the same as calling the majority of genestella as worthless because they're factually inferior to this "weakling". As I've stated before, the sister didn't cripple or maim him. She only limited his power into a reasonable level. And, this reasonable level is actually still a little above average. He wouldn't have had any chance against Julis if it's anywhere below the average. |
shawnofthedeadzDec 5, 2015 1:48 PM
Ryuutobi said: Unfortunately, the picture was so distracting I could not read the text. But please just answer 1 question.. If you were Ayato... would you want to be sealed?Now I can see that you based your opinion on some mistakes. Ok first, see the image below. That's a dental bracer. I need to show you that in order to break your first mistake that is "The seal hurts Ayato". That is wrong, because the seal doesn't hurt him. It's his own attempt to forcefully remove it that hurt him. It's basically like trying to remove a dental bracer on your own without the help of a dentist. You can not sue the dentist who set it if you get hurt in the process. Your second mistake is that "Ayato is weak in his sealed state". This has been proven wrong right at the start of the series when he dueled Julis without removing his seal. If he's really weak, then how was he able to survive a top ranked genestella who was seriously trying to kill him? In fact, he was actually winning but stopped in his path to victory due to an interference from a third party. Calling the sealed him who actually bested one of the bests in his generation as weak is the same as calling the majority of genestella as worthless because they're factually inferior to this "weakling". As I've stated before, the sister didn't cripple or maim him. She only limited his power into a reasonable level. And, this reasonable level is actually still a little above average. He wouldn't have had any chance against Julis if it's anywhere below the average. |
shawnofthedeadzDec 5, 2015 1:50 PM
Ryuutobi said: Technically correct, the seal does not hurt him. Yet he has to break it in nearly every fight he is in, so I'm still voting that his seal hurts him. Limiting someone's combat capabilities is tantamount to taking away a soldier's gun when fighting a war and saying it is for your own good."The seal hurts Ayato". That is wrong, because the seal doesn't hurt him. Ryuutobi said: Never said that.. but I do agree.Your second mistake is that "Ayato is weak in his sealed state". |
shawnofthedeadzDec 5, 2015 1:49 PM
| Ayato's sister is actually in an evil organization and sealed his powers because she knew he would be a problem to them in the future. |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: xMataichix said: Ayato's sister is actually in an evil organization and sealed his powers because she knew he would be a problem to them in the future. And why didn't she try to recruit him since her brother cares for her a lot? Wrong answer bro...... Obviously the guy in the mask who she was fighting at the very start was a really good guy. Just because she's in an evil organization doesn't mean she didn't have a motive not to recruit him. Let's see. First of all at the time maybe he was too young. His powers weren't fully developed yet. Also maybe she knew his morals would be too strong to corrupt so it's better to seal him away rather than try to waste time recruiting someone that will never join you. Yeah... how many times have we seen a potential good guy fight a potential bad guy and have the roles reversed and it turn out to be the opposite. It's a plot angles used quite frequently in many TV and movie series outside of anime as well. Need I remind you that the big guy in the school that seemed like a bully actually turned out to NOT be such a bad guy. *eyes roll* It's the most feasible explanation and better than... "duh, I don't know". XDD |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: xMataichix said: Just because she's in an evil organization doesn't mean she didn't have a motive not to recruit him. Let's see. First of all at the time maybe he was too young. His powers weren't fully developed yet. Also maybe she knew his morals would be too strong to corrupt so it's better to seal him away rather than try to waste time recruiting someone that will never join you. Yeah... how many times have we seen a potential good guy fight a potential bad guy and have the roles reversed and it turn out to be the opposite. It's a plot angles used quite frequently in many TV and movie series outside of anime as well. Need I remind you that the big guy in the school that seemed like a bully actually turned out to NOT be such a bad guy. *eyes roll* It's the most feasible explanation and better than... "duh, I don't know". XDD The problem is it would have been much easier to twist and corrupt the guy as he was young and admired his sister above everything else. There was no point in going through a lecture about finding a goal in that flashback if that was the case. Neither there was a need to disappear quietly and participate in a shady tournament against a shady opponent where she was seriously injured. Neither there was a reason to say sorry to Ayato during those moments. You know another approach that's usually taken is joining the villain organization for keeping one's family safe or destroying it from the inside. You know you are very quick to think that Ayato's sister could be in a evil organization while the shady masked guy could be good without any evidence when the opposite can also happen as well. Lester came off as a bully not evil........he was straight forward not someone taking cheap shots. It would be a feasible explanation if you could at least show one evidence pointing to Ayato's sister being in a evil organization. Considering our not so good SCP (Dirk is anything but a good guy) is actually afraid of Servesta(previously used by Haruka) and Ayato, it actually points to the opposite. It's not that far of a stretch to think she's in some secret group. Ayato said himself that she's missing and not dead. And that he'd ask her why she sealed him if he could find her. He also says she must have her reasons for staying missing. I believer her to be part of the Shadow Stars with Ayato's classmate Yabuki. It just seems that he knows more about Ayato than he should. It's just that if she's not dead and not protecting Ayato then what is she up to? You're also very quick to assume she isn't in an organization of some kind with her being missing and on top of sealing Ayato's powers it makes her look pretty suspicious. Yabuki is reporting to someone in Shadow Stars I'm willing to bet it's Ayato's sister. Although I can say I'm enjoying the anime a lot so far and can't wait for season 2. Hopefully we get some insight on where she is and what happened to her. I haven't read the light novel but I know the manga has to catch up to the anime so there are no clues in the manga that isn't in the anime. Even though there is no real evidence yet. Her being missing and not dead and not telling Ayato "Hey I'm okay so don't worry." seem all the more suspicious. |
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